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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 05, 2022, 02:11:13 PM

There were some really bad mistakes made by Roma during this match. During the match, the goalkeeper had a terrible performance. In addition to this, the defense of the Roma also did not do well at all. The way the defense was playing, it seemed like they were trying to play with a drop-back tactic.

However, if you are constantly backing up, the attackers will find more space to shoot. If the goalkeeper isn't doing well, the shots are supposed to go in. In this particular match, that is exactly what happened to Roma as well. My expectation is that they will learn from the mistakes they have made in this match and put their best foot forward in future matches in order to improve. In the next match of the league, the team will face Empoli. I think Rome should be able to win that easily. However, the next match after that will be against Atalanta, which will be a very difficult match to play.

The defeat should indeed be a valuable lesson for Jose mourinho to look forward to the next match, he must fix every tactic in dealing with the opponent's game. Udinese took advantage of the lack of discipline of Roma players in that match, carelessness emerged from the first goal until a fatal mistake made by Rick Karsdorp where he provided a too weak pass that allowed Destiny Udogie to take one step forward to kick the ball.

Well Atalanta as I said before they can easily win the away match against Ac monza. The host must be willing to give 3 points for the guest. This victory makes Gian Piero Gasperini children sit at the top of the standings by collecting 13 points from 5 matches.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 05, 2022, 11:26:25 AM

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In my opinion, the most interesting match today will be Salernitana vs Empoli. Chances to win are about equal, but Empoli has more motivation to go higher in the standings and earn at least one win. But I'm more inclined to a draw, because Empoli's last 3 matches were drawn, and I doubt they'll beat Salernitana today.

I think it's the most unwatchable game. Torino and Atalanta are enjoyable to watch, but I don't know who watches Salernitana and Empoli and why. I don't think there are many people watching these teams other than their own fans. Does anyone know why there are 3 Monday games in the Italian League?
The Atalanta game will start soon. The stadium is full. Atalanta will play with four defense. The forward will be Hojlund. Even if Atalanta is missing some players, they need to beat a weak team like Monza.
In the other match, I expect Torino to beat Lecce. Torino lost to Atalanta last week. This time they need to win the game as the hosts. Lecce have not won in 6 games. In the last friendly match, they beat a weak team. They don't have many claims.

The match between Empoli and Salernitana has come to an end. The match ended in a draw, which is a pity. At the end of the game, the score was 2-2. I think the neutral fans had a lot more expectations from this match. In my opinion, there were a lot of bettors like me who wanted a winner at the end.

By the way, the result was certainly a good one for Empoli, since they are very close to the relegation zone at the moment. There is no doubt that this is going to help them stay out of that area. In spite of this, both teams would have benefited from a win. Whatever, it is very early in the season, and I do not think any team has to worry about finishing in the relegation zone at this point in time.

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Quote from: fzkto on September 05, 2022, 11:17:07 AM

In my opinion, the most interesting match today will be Salernitana vs Empoli. Chances to win are about equal, but Empoli has more motivation to go higher in the standings and earn at least one win. But I'm more inclined to a draw, because Empoli's last 3 matches were drawn, and I doubt they'll beat Salernitana today.

The match between Salernitana vs Empoli has almost entered the last minute of the second half and the score is still draw 2 - 2. both teams played equally strong, it looks like a draw will be the end of this match

- Monza return to defeat, so Monza is stuck in rank 20 with 0 points

Atalanta again achieved positive results and returned to the first place in the Serie A standings after a 2-0 win over Monza, after being occupied by Napoli yesterday.

I think that if the Atalanta players can maintain their best performance in the following matches, Atalanta will be one of the clubs that will be highly reckoned with in Serie A this season.

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But even despite this defeat, not everything is so bad - Roma is still above both Juventus and Inter and is only one point behind Milan and Napoli. I think that Mourinho will benefit from this defeat by setting up the mind set of players correctly. Sometimes a major defeat is necessary in order to more objectively evaluate your strengths and work harder. I liked his interview after the game where he said that one 0-4 defeat is better than four 0-1 defeats.

This defeat broke the positive trend of AS Roma at the start of this season where mourinho troops had to lose from the away match against udinese in week 5. no half-hearted host was able to beat As roma with a big score. Mourinho has to admit that in this match his team played very badly, especially in the defense that did not perform well in keeping the movements of the Udinese players, so that when there was a counter-attack the As Roma defense looked very chaotic.

and from atalanta we will look at their trend in the match against Ac monza which will take place in a few minutes and I'm sure Atalanta will secure full points in this match considering their opponents are bottom of the table.

There were some really bad mistakes made by Roma during this match. During the match, the goalkeeper had a terrible performance. In addition to this, the defense of the Roma also did not do well at all. The way the defense was playing, it seemed like they were trying to play with a drop-back tactic.

However, if you are constantly backing up, the attackers will find more space to shoot. If the goalkeeper isn't doing well, the shots are supposed to go in. In this particular match, that is exactly what happened to Roma as well. My expectation is that they will learn from the mistakes they have made in this match and put their best foot forward in future matches in order to improve. In the next match of the league, the team will face Empoli. I think Rome should be able to win that easily. However, the next match after that will be against Atalanta, which will be a very difficult match to play.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 05, 2022, 01:25:30 PM

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 04, 2022, 07:04:03 PM

Udinese just got a shocking result for me and nearly all the people here. I knew that they were doing nice but I didn't consider them better than Roma. Because Roma had a really solid game plan and things were going on in favour of them. But somehow they lost this game by 4-0. I don't remember any time that Udinese got a huge win against them here in more recent times. I hope that Mourinho finds the problem quickly and prevents this embarrassing loss from affecting their performance in the coming games.

If Roma only loses in a low position then stay calm and maybe only do a small evaluation, but when they are beaten by Udinese with a high score then it is really a shame because a strong team AS Roma can be defeated easily and with a score that is low. very high, or maybe Roma deliberately lost to get a win at a bet on a certain website but I think my coach or management sure didn't do that.

You mean that this game could be fixed?

I think that there is no way that is happening from now on. It is true that this kind of things happened in the distant past of the Serie A. There were so many teams whose points were deleted and punished for the crime they committed. However we have left those days behind. This kind of results can be seen in any league of course. But I was just very surprised after seeing how Roma started to the season. Udinese weren't a team that could stop them easily. But the score tells us the opposite.

It doesn't make sense at all. Why wouldn't Roma lose a game that is also taking place away with a 4 goal difference? There have been surprises in the past so many times even when it comes to top clubs. One that comes to my mind is Bayern Munich losing a home game 0 - 5. Was that a scam then or was it fixed? I think we all agree that that is definitely not the case and Roma losing against Udinese is not like a miracle happened.

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Quote from: arimamib on September 05, 2022, 01:58:19 PM

So do you think Roma defeat to Udinese is unnatural.?
Isn't it in football anything can happen, events that are beyond prediction can happen without anyone being able to predict it. Roma defeat to Udinese was not a setting, it was pure defeat in my opinion, because Udinese played better than Roma. There is no such thing as giving up just because of a bet, Roma can't do that because they really need points to improve their position in the standings.

Roma's biggest mistake was that they didn't defend well when Udinese attacked. Look at the match stats, 4/5 shots on target were goals and that's a good thing from Udinese. Disappointment on the part of Roma supporters is normal, so let them be a little upset even if it is not expected. Next Roma will play for the Europa League, they will play Ludogorets and Roma should need motivation to get up and win after yesterday's crushing defeat to Udinese.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on September 04, 2022, 07:54:06 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on September 04, 2022, 07:04:03 PM

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If Roma only loses in a low position then stay calm and maybe only do a small evaluation, but when they are beaten by Udinese with a high score then it is really a shame because a strong team AS Roma can be defeated easily and with a score that is low. very high, or maybe Roma deliberately lost to get a win at a bet on a certain website but I think my coach or management sure didn't do that.

So do you think Roma defeat to Udinese is unnatural.?
Isn't it in football anything can happen, events that are beyond prediction can happen without anyone being able to predict it. Roma defeat to Udinese was not a setting, it was pure defeat in my opinion, because Udinese played better than Roma. There is no such thing as giving up just because of a bet, Roma can't do that because they really need points to improve their position in the standings.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on September 04, 2022, 07:54:06 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on September 04, 2022, 07:04:03 PM

Udinese just got a shocking result for me and nearly all the people here. I knew that they were doing nice but I didn't consider them better than Roma. Because Roma had a really solid game plan and things were going on in favour of them. But somehow they lost this game by 4-0. I don't remember any time that Udinese got a huge win against them here in more recent times. I hope that Mourinho finds the problem quickly and prevents this embarrassing loss from affecting their performance in the coming games.

If Roma only loses in a low position then stay calm and maybe only do a small evaluation, but when they are beaten by Udinese with a high score then it is really a shame because a strong team AS Roma can be defeated easily and with a score that is low. very high, or maybe Roma deliberately lost to get a win at a bet on a certain website but I think my coach or management sure didn't do that.

You mean that this game could be fixed?

I think that there is no way that is happening from now on. It is true that this kind of things happened in the distant past of the Serie A. There were so many teams whose points were deleted and punished for the crime they committed. However we have left those days behind. This kind of results can be seen in any league of course. But I was just very surprised after seeing how Roma started to the season. Udinese weren't a team that could stop them easily. But the score tells us the opposite.

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Quote from: fzkto on September 05, 2022, 11:17:07 AM

In my opinion, the most interesting match today will be Salernitana vs Empoli. Chances to win are about equal, but Empoli has more motivation to go higher in the standings and earn at least one win. But I'm more inclined to a draw, because Empoli's last 3 matches were drawn, and I doubt they'll beat Salernitana today.

The match between Salernitana vs Empoli has almost entered the last minute of the second half and the score is still draw 2 - 2. both teams played equally strong, it looks like a draw will be the end of this match

- Monza return to defeat, so Monza is stuck in rank 20 with 0 points

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Quote from: GatotKaca on September 05, 2022, 11:54:12 AM

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This defeat broke the positive trend of AS Roma at the start of this season where mourinho troops had to lose from the away match against udinese in week 5. no half-hearted host was able to beat As roma with a big score. Mourinho has to admit that in this match his team played very badly, especially in the defense that did not perform well in keeping the movements of the Udinese players, so that when there was a counter-attack the As Roma defense looked very chaotic.

Udinese looked not so productive in the previous matches. but 4 goals against Roma is certainly very painful for Roma.
what exactly is Rome's problem? the two are fairly even in statistics. but 4 goals Udinese won't make sense to me. Or maybe it's deserved and I'm the only one disappointed with the outcome of my bet.

The performance of Roma players in this match was very disappointing. It was not expected that Roma would be beaten so badly. Roma's defense was strong enough. But the performance of the defenders in this match was very poor. Roma conceded only 1 goal in the first 4 matches. If winning the title is the goal, Mourinho should continue to try to make the team more stable.

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Quote from: Google+ on September 05, 2022, 11:49:16 AM

This defeat broke the positive trend of AS Roma at the start of this season where mourinho troops had to lose from the away match against udinese in week 5. no half-hearted host was able to beat As roma with a big score. Mourinho has to admit that in this match his team played very badly, especially in the defense that did not perform well in keeping the movements of the Udinese players, so that when there was a counter-attack the As Roma defense looked very chaotic.

Udinese looked not so productive in the previous matches. but 4 goals against Roma is certainly very painful for Roma.
what exactly is Rome's problem? the two are fairly even in statistics. but 4 goals Udinese won't make sense to me. Or maybe it's deserved and I'm the only one disappointed with the outcome of my bet.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on September 05, 2022, 04:34:12 AM

But even despite this defeat, not everything is so bad - Roma is still above both Juventus and Inter and is only one point behind Milan and Napoli. I think that Mourinho will benefit from this defeat by setting up the mind set of players correctly. Sometimes a major defeat is necessary in order to more objectively evaluate your strengths and work harder. I liked his interview after the game where he said that one 0-4 defeat is better than four 0-1 defeats.

This defeat broke the positive trend of AS Roma at the start of this season where mourinho troops had to lose from the away match against udinese in week 5. no half-hearted host was able to beat As roma with a big score. Mourinho has to admit that in this match his team played very badly, especially in the defense that did not perform well in keeping the movements of the Udinese players, so that when there was a counter-attack the As Roma defense looked very chaotic.

and from atalanta we will look at their trend in the match against Ac monza which will take place in a few minutes and I'm sure Atalanta will secure full points in this match considering their opponents are bottom of the table.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 04, 2022, 08:40:45 AM

Am I the only one who sees the odds of Roma winning given by the bookmakers as generous? Udinese are a solid team that play well at home but still have 5 goals conceded while Roma have only 1 conceded and overall have big ambitions for this season. It seems to me that Roma is underestimated, so I decided to take a chance and made a bet.

Incredibly illogical result! However, I should have been wary when I saw that Roma's chances had changed from ~1.9 to 2.04 during the day before the game. The bookies definitely knew something. Good symmetry - Villarreal won 4-0 and Roma lost 0-4. However, I initially knew that this is not a guaranteed result, so it really does not matter 0-4 or 0-1. The main thing is that Mourinho remains optimistic and hopefully he can prevent the players from focusing on this failure.

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Quote from: fzkto on September 05, 2022, 11:17:07 AM

In my opinion, the most interesting match today will be Salernitana vs Empoli. Chances to win are about equal, but Empoli has more motivation to go higher in the standings and earn at least one win. But I'm more inclined to a draw, because Empoli's last 3 matches were drawn, and I doubt they'll beat Salernitana today.

I think it's the most unwatchable game. Torino and Atalanta are enjoyable to watch, but I don't know who watches Salernitana and Empoli and why. I don't think there are many people watching these teams other than their own fans. Does anyone know why there are 3 Monday games in the Italian League?
The Atalanta game will start soon. The stadium is full. Atalanta will play with four defense. The forward will be Hojlund. Even if Atalanta is missing some players, they need to beat a weak team like Monza.
In the other match, I expect Torino to beat Lecce. Torino lost to Atalanta last week. This time they need to win the game as the hosts. Lecce have not won in 6 games. In the last friendly match, they beat a weak team. They don't have many claims.

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In my opinion, the most interesting match today will be Salernitana vs Empoli. Chances to win are about equal, but Empoli has more motivation to go higher in the standings and earn at least one win. But I'm more inclined to a draw, because Empoli's last 3 matches were drawn, and I doubt they'll beat Salernitana today.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on September 05, 2022, 06:49:26 AM

The next match for Napoli is going to be against Liverpool which is the Champions League match.
I don’t think they will be able to win that.

liverpool are not doing well in the premier league this season, they have had very bad results and i believe that napoli has a great chance of winning the game against liverpool, I even think that the bookmakers are giving napoli as a favorite to win the game

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But the next league match for Napoli is going to be against Spezia. They should have a good chance of winning that match.

without a doubt that this game against spezia, napoli will win and remain in the top, but if milan beats sampdoria and manage to score a lot of goals and not concede a goal then milan will move to the first place, but it will also depend on napoli not scoring many goals in the game against spezia and concede a goal. anyway, at the beginning, the fight for who will stay on top is being a very disputed fight

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^ Slow death, I really believe that Atalanta has a really good chance of achieving first place in the standings.
And the next match is going to be against Monza who are at the absolute bottom of the table. I really do not expect Atalanta to lose this match.
This is the best chance that they are going to get to go to the top of the table. And if they play well I believe they will be able to hold onto their position.

the question is:

-How long can atalanta stay on top?
-Will atalanta have a chance to be champion this season?

Monza - Atalanta

Monza comes from a sequence of defeats, in 4 games monza did not win any game, they will concede 11 goals and only scored 2 goals. this is a very bad performance

Atalanta comes to this game with a sequence of victories, there are 2 victories in a row, they scored 7 goals and will concede 2 goals in 4 games. which in my opinion atalanta can win this game, for that reason i bet on atalanta

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Quote from: Razmirraz on September 05, 2022, 10:05:15 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 05, 2022, 06:49:56 AM

Yes, Jose Mourinho must see this as a whip for them, the article with this crushing defeat means they are not fully strong in every line. Moreover, this defeat from a club that can be said below them.
But I believe that Jose Mourinho has evaluated this match, why they can lose badly in this match. Next week they have to get up and get back to winning ways if they want the Scudetto this season.

The crushing defeat that just got to Roma was an additional lesson for Jose Mourinho that his team was not fully in good condition, Mourinho also had to pay attention to the defense which resulted in Roma conceding four goals in one game. Roma not only lost points from Udinese, but also became a very embarrassing defeat for a team like Roma. Mourinho tactics did not work perfectly in this match, he must immediately find a way out to keep his players mentally from making the same mistakes in the next match.

The 4 goals Roma conceded will especially be what drives Mourinho crazy. He loves to put emphasis on a very strong defense and then attack from there. Losing that game 4-0 against Conceding 4 goals against Udinese must at least be a huge warning signal for all the games to come.

I just checked Ludogorez league stats and I must say that I don't think it will be an easy game for Roma in the Europa League at all. Betis also must be taken seriously. The next two weeks could already be quite decisive for the season as a whole. It would be more fun to see them staying close to the top teams and also to pass the group stage.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 05, 2022, 06:49:56 AM

Yes, Jose Mourinho must see this as a whip for them, the article with this crushing defeat means they are not fully strong in every line. Moreover, this defeat from a club that can be said below them.
But I believe that Jose Mourinho has evaluated this match, why they can lose badly in this match. Next week they have to get up and get back to winning ways if they want the Scudetto this season.

The crushing defeat that just got to Roma was an additional lesson for Jose Mourinho that his team was not fully in good condition, Mourinho also had to pay attention to the defense which resulted in Roma conceding four goals in one game. Roma not only lost points from Udinese, but also became a very embarrassing defeat for a team like Roma. Mourinho tactics did not work perfectly in this match, he must immediately find a way out to keep his players mentally from making the same mistakes in the next match.

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I don't think Roma underestimated Udinese because last season they got troubles there too. It's just their players made two terrible personal mistakes that caused two conceded goals and they did not manage to get things back. Then two later goals are unavoidable with counter attacking from Udinese.

If talking about last season records Roma can beat Udinese twice so that's why they were the favorite to win the match moreover Roma previous performance were very impressive but i noticed in this match Roma has not playing according to their characteristics that during the match they were slightly dominated the game and maybe this is the results if the team who have defensive style playing attacking and when Udinese playing with counter attack Roma players cannot anticipated it and they did some mistakes which suffered goals from Udinese players

In fact, in this case, Roma were indeed very favored in yesterday's match but indeed the expectations were too big and they were too confident in facing Udinese, making them lose in their own game.
On the other hand, the loss of Zaniolo also had a slight impact on the ball supply for Tammy, Pellegrini did play quite well but I don't see anything pushing like Zaniolo did in the middle of the field.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on September 05, 2022, 04:34:12 AM

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Rome was crushed against Udinese. Honestly, I wasn't expecting this score. I thought that even if Udinese won, they could win 1 or 2 goals different, but they surprised everyone and won the match with a clear score of 4-0. With this result, they were ahead of Roma in the league. If Roma had won this match, they would have been the leader, but they are currently in the 5th place in the league. I hope they never suffer such a defeat again.

But even despite this defeat, not everything is so bad - Roma is still above both Juventus and Inter and is only one point behind Milan and Napoli. I think that Mourinho will benefit from this defeat by setting up the mind set of players correctly. Sometimes a major defeat is necessary in order to more objectively evaluate your strengths and work harder. I liked his interview after the game where he said that one 0-4 defeat is better than four 0-1 defeats.

As a matter of fact, I thought Roma was going to have a better result. There was even a chance that Roma could actually win this match. However, this did not end up happening. Roma suffered a very humiliating loss in this match. However, it is understandable why something like this happened. They had made some very rookie mistakes in that match. The mistakes that were made at this level cannot be forgiven. As a result of those mistakes, they were punished very badly. In that match, Roma had a few chances to make something out of those chances, but they were not able to take them. Hopefully, they are going to work on the problems that they have found in order to fix them. The team has only played five matches so far this season, so there is still a lot of room for improvement.

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