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Pogba probably needs surgery on his knee, if it will be it will be a 1-2 months stop.

It seems it is an old problem already present in the Manchester United days.

That doesn't sound good for Juventus. And then the question is whether he can really play again after 2 months. And even if he can be used again after 2 months, you will miss at least something like 6 matches, which can be of great importance if you leave a lot of points there. This team needs Pogba badly, last year it was bad and now De Ligt has also left in the rear. We have to hope that Pogba will recover quickly because that man can play football incredibly well, only due to many injuries and motivation problems he went through a somewhat lesser period.

The good news is that the transfer window is still open so they can look a player that can cover for him in a short time frame or long term, I believe he is a good inclusion to the team,they need players if they want to gain power back from the Milan's club, another side that this injury will affect is the France national team, this will affect their plans for the world cup because he is a key player in that midfield,he might return on time but would it be enough to get back to fully fit before the world cup.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 26, 2022, 05:23:54 AM

I think it is very difficult to predict which players will be the starting line-up in this friendly. But I would say that Juventus might field all the players and give the other players a chance to show what they are capable of. It should be so, that pre-season matches should be with a strong team, in order to measure their strength.

That's what you do with a friendly, you get all the players in your club to get a bit of a minutes. Both it allows you to get them to match shape and they would be able to play with form when the games that mean something that starts, but also you get to see all the players doing a good job out there, they will play their hardest on these games because it will be the deciding factor for the league games and all other important games, if you play awesome here and then you will get a spot in the roster, if you play horrible then it would be a big asterisk next to your name and you would have a few more chances at best, hence everyone will want to play, and friendlies are the only games you are allowed to put 20 players in a single game.

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If you look at the achievements of United after the dismissal of Mourinho (in 4 years 0 titles with a stronger squad), then I would not say that his work there was unsuccessful, everyone just got used to a much higher bar in his performance. Tottenham, he also initially raised almost from the bottom of the standings. Mourinho is a strong coach and now he has some opportunities at Roma (I don't think it's about scudetto) and I hope he can use them.

I do not know
I don't agree very much, I don't judge Mourinho well as a coach
but maybe I am wrong, since I am not competent in the matter
why do you think he's a good coach?

I have seen others, in my opinion, better than him

There is no doubt he was one of the best coach in Europe but sadly recently his performance is not good and having just average results which is bringing him down, and now he is not good enough as coach, but recently he is doing again good job and AS Roma is in good shape even still not strong contender for title or any better place but with current situation in Italian League he can stay at top four because few teams are unpredictable, and they can take good advantage of this all.

We have too many better coaches in market which are giving better results and have much better strategies and system instead of Mourinho, but one thing is sure hard work must give you good rewards and right now he is doing good job with Roma which can give him better options in the future.

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Pogba probably needs surgery on his knee, if it will be it will be a 1-2 months stop.

It seems it is an old problem already present in the Manchester United days.

That doesn't sound good for Juventus. And then the question is whether he can really play again after 2 months. And even if he can be used again after 2 months, you will miss at least something like 6 matches, which can be of great importance if you leave a lot of points there. This team needs Pogba badly, last year it was bad and now De Ligt has also left in the rear. We have to hope that Pogba will recover quickly because that man can play football incredibly well, only due to many injuries and motivation problems he went through a somewhat lesser period.

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Pogba probably needs surgery on his knee, if it will be it will be a 1-2 months stop.

It seems it is an old problem already present in the Manchester United days.

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Quote from: AakZaki on July 26, 2022, 10:30:15 AM

Of course the arrival of Dybala, Matic, Celik and goalkeeper Mile Svilar made them more confident. Some loan players have also returned. Of course Mourinho has many options for next season. But Mourinho has to learn from last season, they can't be stable because they don't have players of equal quality. But I see this season Roma are more aggressive in hunting for players, Mourinho seems to be given a large enough allocation of funds to spend on players. Of course they want to do better next season.

Yes, Roma looked more convincing this season after several new players were brought in. But I don't think they will guarantee an increase in performance because it all depends on the strategy and the quality of the players. Mourinho has to learn from last season, of course that's the most important thing for Roma because obviously they can't repeat that this season and fighting for the top four is the target they might have to achieve.

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Juventus have bid for Roberto Firmino and are waiting for Liverpool's response. The bid is said to be about 23 mil euros and the ball is in Liverpool's court on whether they'd like to sell Firmino for that price or keep him for another season.

Quite an interesting offer, but in this case I am still quite doubtful Liverpool will let him go at this price because indeed some time ago also a club from Turkey, namely Fenerbache, had submitted a proposal for this player and it was rejected by Liverpool.
But it's a pretty good offer although I still feel they should raise the price again because for sure Liverpool won't let him go if it's less than 30 million.

The fee is low because Firmino is in the final year of his contract. To be honest, for that reason alone, I think its a pretty attractive bid to land Firmino. If Liverpool don't agree but the player is willing. Juventus could just wait until the winter transfer season and bid a lower amount or just get him for free next season. They probably rejected Fenerbache partly because Firmino might not be interested in going to Turkey at this point in his career. He's still got a few years left in him.

Still this will only be an offer that Liverpool will refuse because even if he is under contract in his last season at Liverpool I don't think he will issue him with a contract that is still said to be low for now especially they also definitely need him to be able to compete or at least make rotations in the crowd next season's schedule.

I see more of Roberto Firmino's potential to survive, in recent seasons Firmino has become one of the main players that Jurgen Klopp has chosen. And his performances have also not diminished, even only play in 20 matchs in the EPL this season, Firmino managed to provide 5 goals and 4 assists for Liverpool. I'm not sure Juventus can get Klopp's approval to bring Roberto Firmino to the Allianz Stadium, but anything can happen if Juventus offer enough sums to affect Liverpool's finances.

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based on my estimation, Juventus will try another player, not a core player, or have a big substitution on 2nd half, so that situation, Juventus will get a draw or lose if Barcelona turns with a full team, Aubameyang and Raphinha will create a goal. prematch is one is a hard thing to predict, so if bookmakers provide with higher odds, do not hesitate to do the opposite if want to big money.

With teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid, need to put up the optimal squad, otherwise what's the point in this match? Alegre can look at young players in absolutely any match, but putting them up against Barcelona and losing is somehow not at all reasonable. I still expect near-optimal lineups for both teams. And who will win, I don’t know, it’s hard to say, but at the moment Barcelona looks stronger to me, I’ll assume that they can win this match.

The work and energy that Xavi has put in the Barcelona team is beginning to scare almost all the big teams in the different league, including the Seria A.They have so far acquired the services of Lewandowski,Rafinha,Kounde and other important players that are strong enough to challenge for the champions league.PSG will be in trouble if they don't sign players and are only relying on the players they have.I know they have players that are capable of winning the champions league as well,but they still need to strengthen their squad by adding more additions.Lets wait to see how this coming season will look like.

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Quote from: AakZaki on July 26, 2022, 10:30:15 AM

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Jose Mourinho is slowly giving positive results to AS Roma. Next season he is expected to be able to compete even more intensely to bring AS Roma to the top. It's a little difficult because we know that AS Roma so far have not been able to compete with other teams.
Dybala's arrival is also expected to have a positive effect on the player's performance, we know he is a talented player who has been brought in.

Of course the arrival of Dybala, Matic, Celik and goalkeeper Mile Svilar made them more confident. Some loan players have also returned. Of course Mourinho has many options for next season. But Mourinho has to learn from last season, they can't be stable because they don't have players of equal quality. But I see this season Roma are more aggressive in hunting for players, Mourinho seems to be given a large enough allocation of funds to spend on players. Of course they want to do better next season.

Does this signal that a new era of Roma with Mourinho is about to begin. Huh

So far, Roma has always provided competition in the top four, but it is very difficult to win the title. Last season success in the Conference League made the Roma management believe in Mourinho even more, the breakthrough made by Roma in the transfer market this time was very surprising, Roma also benefited from being able to get Dybala on a free transfer. As a coach who is a genius of course Mourinho always wants the team he manages to win the title at the end of the season, he already gave a trophy to Roma last season, now Mourinho will prove that he deserves to be called a great coach.

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Quote from: ShowOff on July 25, 2022, 01:45:12 PM

In his last few seasons in the Premier League with Tottenham and Manchester United, I really doubted his quality, but at Roma, it seems Mourinho is different. Roma have been in good form since his arrival and Mourinho did an excellent job last season despite not qualifying for the Champions League. I think Roma will give Mourinho more time to get this team back on track like in 2000-2001 when they won the Scudetto. But of course that is a difficult hurdle to reach in the near future.

I don't think Mourinho is capable of delivering the Scudetto for Roma in 2-3 seasons, he needs a lot of time for that and now their run there is looking good. Only a matter of time and financial conditions that Roma have because in essence quality players will definitely be expensive.

Roma will be a big and most challenging project for Mourinho after his success in Porto. After Porto, he succeeded in other clubs but all of them are rich clubs. They have bigger budget for transfer, salary and they are richer than Roma for sure.

Now, in Roma, Mourinho has a long term project with limited resources at beginning and along the way. He is doing great last season (helped them win a first title after many years) and likely has a very good transfer season. Dybala is a big success for Roma and Mourinho as he can help them to be more powerful in attacking. To win Scudetto, Roma and Mourinho might need one more transfer season to improve their team.

Quote from: KTChampions on July 26, 2022, 07:10:22 AM

If you look at the achievements of United after the dismissal of Mourinho (in 4 years 0 titles with a stronger squad), then I would not say that his work there was unsuccessful, everyone just got used to a much higher bar in his performance. Tottenham, he also initially raised almost from the bottom of the standings. Mourinho is a strong coach and now he has some opportunities at Roma (I don't think it's about scudetto) and I hope he can use them.

He helped Manchester United to win Europa League, their only title after the retirement of Sir. Alex Ferguson. He helped them to end as a runner up with limited resources.

He was right about Paul Pogba too. We all see that after a few years, without Mourinho in Old Trafford, Pogba contributed less and less for Manchester United and again he left the club as a free agent.

They failed with their plans because they put wrong belief into Pogba. Indeed, they should trust Mourinho and give him more time, not Pogba.

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Quote from: Altryist on July 26, 2022, 10:38:56 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on July 26, 2022, 04:56:59 AM

based on my estimation, Juventus will try another player, not a core player, or have a big substitution on 2nd half, so that situation, Juventus will get a draw or lose if Barcelona turns with a full team, Aubameyang and Raphinha will create a goal. prematch is one is a hard thing to predict, so if bookmakers provide with higher odds, do not hesitate to do the opposite if want to big money.

With teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid, need to put up the optimal squad, otherwise what's the point in this match? Alegre can look at young players in absolutely any match, but putting them up against Barcelona and losing is somehow not at all reasonable. I still expect near-optimal lineups for both teams. And who will win, I don’t know, it’s hard to say, but at the moment Barcelona looks stronger to me, I’ll assume that they can win this match.

This is only a friendly match, of course, whatever formation they use I don't care because after all, in the end every team that plays in a friendly match will replace a lot of players in the match. Even earlier in the Barcelona match against Real Madrid they did not play with prestige and even, their lineup was not maintained for the main players and was not defended to win. Therefore, if you choose to keep betting then this is a risky event, because even though Barcelona are favorites in this match, it is still not a guarantee because in this match there is no prestige involved.

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Quote from: blue Snow on July 26, 2022, 04:56:59 AM

based on my estimation, Juventus will try another player, not a core player, or have a big substitution on 2nd half, so that situation, Juventus will get a draw or lose if Barcelona turns with a full team, Aubameyang and Raphinha will create a goal. prematch is one is a hard thing to predict, so if bookmakers provide with higher odds, do not hesitate to do the opposite if want to big money.

With teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid, need to put up the optimal squad, otherwise what's the point in this match? Alegre can look at young players in absolutely any match, but putting them up against Barcelona and losing is somehow not at all reasonable. I still expect near-optimal lineups for both teams. And who will win, I don’t know, it’s hard to say, but at the moment Barcelona looks stronger to me, I’ll assume that they can win this match.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on July 25, 2022, 05:32:01 AM

Jose Mourinho is slowly giving positive results to AS Roma. Next season he is expected to be able to compete even more intensely to bring AS Roma to the top. It's a little difficult because we know that AS Roma so far have not been able to compete with other teams.
Dybala's arrival is also expected to have a positive effect on the player's performance, we know he is a talented player who has been brought in.

Of course the arrival of Dybala, Matic, Celik and goalkeeper Mile Svilar made them more confident. Some loan players have also returned. Of course Mourinho has many options for next season. But Mourinho has to learn from last season, they can't be stable because they don't have players of equal quality. But I see this season Roma are more aggressive in hunting for players, Mourinho seems to be given a large enough allocation of funds to spend on players. Of course they want to do better next season.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 26, 2022, 07:10:22 AM

If you look at the achievements of United after the dismissal of Mourinho (in 4 years 0 titles with a stronger squad), then I would not say that his work there was unsuccessful, everyone just got used to a much higher bar in his performance. Tottenham, he also initially raised almost from the bottom of the standings. Mourinho is a strong coach and now he has some opportunities at Roma (I don't think it's about scudetto) and I hope he can use them.

I do not know
I don't agree very much, I don't judge Mourinho well as a coach
but maybe I am wrong, since I am not competent in the matter
why do you think he's a good coach?

I have seen others, in my opinion, better than him

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Wow, at a young age Charles De Ketelaere has also played in the Champions League and it has been one of the great experiences for him. Even though I would say Charles De Ketelaere has only been a local player so far at Club Brugge according to his birthplace, but Charles De Ketelaere has had good experiences in Europe. But it seems that so far only Milan have an interest in signing him, so I'm curious because if Charles De Ketelaere is a great player, then Charles De Ketelaere has been attracted by many big clubs. But let's see if Milan will actually succeed in signing Charles De Ketelaere or not, because obviously this is a player with great potential for the long term.

De Ketelaere is ready to move to AC Milan, but the negotiation with Club Brugge is not easy like how De Ketelaere wants to move ASAP. For now, another clubs has been linked with him, but I believe Milan still favorite to get him. Leeds United currently come to makes this deal little bit hard for Milan. But, we know, the level between Milan and Leeds are far away, so this is will become the best reason why AC Milan will get him.

the club set the transfer price of De Ketelaere quite high. and they don't want to let him down even though the offer from AC Milan is quite big. Moreover, there is also a promise of additional bonuses.
De Ketelaere himself has expressed his desire to move to AC Milan. and it seems that there are still more negotiations from both parties. this makes a bright spot De Ketelaere will soon play for AC Milan this season.

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Quote from: hahay on July 26, 2022, 04:41:11 AM

Wow, at a young age Charles De Ketelaere has also played in the Champions League and it has been one of the great experiences for him. Even though I would say Charles De Ketelaere has only been a local player so far at Club Brugge according to his birthplace, but Charles De Ketelaere has had good experiences in Europe. But it seems that so far only Milan have an interest in signing him, so I'm curious because if Charles De Ketelaere is a great player, then Charles De Ketelaere has been attracted by many big clubs. But let's see if Milan will actually succeed in signing Charles De Ketelaere or not, because obviously this is a player with great potential for the long term.

De Ketelaere is ready to move to AC Milan, but the negotiation with Club Brugge is not easy like how De Ketelaere wants to move ASAP. For now, another clubs has been linked with him, but I believe Milan still favorite to get him. Leeds United currently come to makes this deal little bit hard for Milan. But, we know, the level between Milan and Leeds are far away, so this is will become the best reason why AC Milan will get him.

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Quote from: ShowOff on July 25, 2022, 01:45:12 PM

In his last few seasons in the Premier League with Tottenham and Manchester United, I really doubted his quality, but at Roma, it seems Mourinho is different. Roma have been in good form since his arrival and Mourinho did an excellent job last season despite not qualifying for the Champions League. I think Roma will give Mourinho more time to get this team back on track like in 2000-2001 when they won the Scudetto. But of course that is a difficult hurdle to reach in the near future.

I don't think Mourinho is capable of delivering the Scudetto for Roma in 2-3 seasons, he needs a lot of time for that and now their run there is looking good. Only a matter of time and financial conditions that Roma have because in essence quality players will definitely be expensive.

If you look at the achievements of United after the dismissal of Mourinho (in 4 years 0 titles with a stronger squad), then I would not say that his work there was unsuccessful, everyone just got used to a much higher bar in his performance. Tottenham, he also initially raised almost from the bottom of the standings. Mourinho is a strong coach and now he has some opportunities at Roma (I don't think it's about scudetto) and I hope he can use them.

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Quote from: tygeade on July 25, 2022, 04:59:41 PM

This is why I believe that we shouldn't be expecting them to suddenly become a team that would win the league, that won't happen anytime soon. What they should aim instead would be going to UCL next season, if they finish top 4 then it would be nice for them and they would be going higher and would make more money and then they could give even more players to Mourinho for better results.

Yes, Jose Mourinho with AS Roma still needs time to be successful. There was no way he would do it in such a short time, there was still a process they had to go through. Now they have to focus first on their game so they can be even more consistent. If they've got it just start with a wider conversation (in this case being a champion).

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Juventus friendly matches seems interesting to watched because they will play against 3 big teams from La Liga and their first opponent for tomorrow match is Barcelona, Real Madrid on Sunday and 8 August against Atletico Madrid and unlike other teams which usually choose weak teams for pre season matches but seems Juventus want to try strong teams from other league and although this only friendly matches but some of bookmakers provide bets options for this match so people still can make a bet for them

based on my estimation, Juventus will try another player, not a core player, or have a big substitution on 2nd half, so that situation, Juventus will get a draw or lose if Barcelona turns with a full team, Aubameyang and Raphinha will create a goal. prematch is one is a hard thing to predict, so if bookmakers provide with higher odds, do not hesitate to do the opposite if want to big money.

I think it is very difficult to predict which players will be the starting line-up in this friendly. But I would say that Juventus might field all the players and give the other players a chance to show what they are capable of. It should be so, that pre-season matches should be with a strong team, in order to measure their strength.

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