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Quote from: Mr.right85 on July 20, 2022, 02:13:43 PM

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Depends on which trophy we're talking about - if it's the Europa League, why not? Well, or if Roma fly out of the European League to the Conference League, then they can win it for the second time in a row Cheesy

Dybala had a bad season, including due to injuries, it will be interesting to see how he spends it if his health is in order. It would be funny if he can spend the season so that Juventus will regret letting him go.

That's surprising. I thought he was rumored to be having talks with Inter Milan which would have been a much more better choice if you ask me, with Manchester United and Bayern Munich looking out for a possible move. Jose Mourinho must have got something installed for him to have got him attached with the AS Roma and being an experienced coach, its also best for Paulo Dybala if he could find form with Roma haven't pushed for some glory in the just concluded season.
It's funny how Roma have fallen out of form from a champions league competing side to a conference league favourite side. Hope Mourinho could repair the damage in the team though.

I don't think that Dybala is now such a valuable player that he can claim a place in a top club and everyone already understands that he is no longer a promising player.
By the way, Roma has sharply approached the big four in terms of the cost of the squad, look at the situation on July 1st and what it is now:

https://www.transfermarkt.com/serie-a/marktwerteverein/wettbewerb/IT1

But unfortunately I am sure that the numbers from July 1st more objectively reflect the current alignment of forces in Serie A.

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Quote from: boltz on July 21, 2022, 06:13:31 AM

I was thinking today about Ronaldo and how "everyone" is refusing him. Do I trust those headlines from the news ? Nah. Do I like it tho ? Yes. Why ? Well , how about Ronaldo joining AC.Milan ? Almost all top class players have cross roads with Ac Milan in their careers and besides that ,Ac.MIlan are having a great squad right now and Ronaldo would be the perfect fit for them. Will it happen ? It could be if Milan would have approached Ronaldo.

AC Milan is a club in poor financial condition at the moment what do you expect from them who will be able to bring Ronaldo there?
At least this factor alone has answered that Ronaldo will not be at Milan for the next seasons because it will not be possible for a club in crisis to be able to bring in players with above average quality and salary.

Well Ronaldo dosent have much options anymore for teams that play in the champions league. With Milans current situation i dont think they will bring him. The wages are too big and it probobly wont happen. I also dont see Milan next season in serie a in top 3 teams

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Quote from: boltz on July 21, 2022, 06:13:31 AM

I was thinking today about Ronaldo and how "everyone" is refusing him. Do I trust those headlines from the news ? Nah. Do I like it tho ? Yes. Why ? Well , how about Ronaldo joining AC.Milan ? Almost all top class players have cross roads with Ac Milan in their careers and besides that ,Ac.MIlan are having a great squad right now and Ronaldo would be the perfect fit for them. Will it happen ? It could be if Milan would have approached Ronaldo.

AC Milan is a club in poor financial condition at the moment what do you expect from them who will be able to bring Ronaldo there?
At least this factor alone has answered that Ronaldo will not be at Milan for the next seasons because it will not be possible for a club in crisis to be able to bring in players with above average quality and salary.

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Quote from: panjul07 on July 21, 2022, 12:04:39 PM

Luck is not enough for Milan to win the scudetto last season, they did it better than their competitor.
Yes the inconsistency of Inter helped Milan to win the scudetto but on the other side Milan did take the opportunity well.
If they were inconsistent, they wont win the title although Inter were inconsistent as well.
Next season will be harder for them to hold the title as holding is harder than winning (applied to all teams).
Transfer market also not a guarantee that a team will become better so do not underestimate a team just because of their activity in the transfer market.

Of course this season will be very different from the previous season and I'm sure Milan will also find it difficult to maintain the Scudetto. Juventus have been preparing to win the Scudetto this season and I think they look more ready than any other team. I won't underestimate Milan, Inter and Napoli either, but Juventus really look to have a lot of potential to win it than others.

I think Serie A will now be much more different after Milan won the Scudetto because Juventus' dominance at the top has been replaced. Milan have the opportunity to repeat it, but I would highly doubt that possibility this season.

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Quote from: boltz on July 21, 2022, 06:13:31 AM

I was thinking today about Ronaldo and how "everyone" is refusing him. Do I trust those headlines from the news ? Nah. Do I like it tho ? Yes. Why ? Well , how about Ronaldo joining AC.Milan ? Almost all top class players have cross roads with Ac Milan in their careers and besides that ,Ac.MIlan are having a great squad right now and Ronaldo would be the perfect fit for them. Will it happen ? It could be if Milan would have approached Ronaldo.

So many fake news are everywhere about how all the teams have rejected to sign Ronaldo as if he is some kind of bad player, I think most of the news headlines are using the name of Ronaldo to attract the attention of readers so that people can visit their website to find out more about the information. Manchester United have confirmed through their new coach Ten Hang that Ronaldo's presence is needed in the team and he is still having a 1 year left with Man United. Despite Ronaldo's pressures to leave the team because he wants to join a team that will be taking part in the Champions League, Manchester United have insisted that he is not still going anywhere so it is the club that is keeping him not that clubs are rejecting him.

Ronaldo will not want to play for AC Milan because he just left Italy to play for Manchester United so going back to Italy means that he will be ending his career there which we know he wouldn't want to retire an AC Milan player.

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Quote from: babo on July 21, 2022, 02:43:00 AM

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Paulo Dybala's transfer to Rome excited me. I hope Jose wants to build a good squad in the team and bring Rome back to its old days. The experienced technical man who shapes the offensive line and the defensive line also needs to strengthen the midfield. For Rome's effective exits from defense to attack, it definitely needs to reinforce its midfield. However, Jose's good use of experience and player capacity makes us think that we will watch a good and fast Roma this year.

based on the limited budget available, Roma are spending money
so you want to strengthen, I think that in the new season that comes Roma will become strong enough and will be able to assert themselves in the Italian championship

I'm still skeptical about the coach, but we'll see

It will still be a bit difficult but it will be really good if they do that because indeed from the past few seasons now in the top 4 there are only Inter, Milan, Juventus and Napoli always like this and when Roma can make a good breakthrough it will very good for them.
Mou is a bit eccentric I think maybe even the skeptics here are not only you but some Roma fans will still like it, but sometimes he is difficult to predict.

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Quote from: mia_houston on July 21, 2022, 11:46:39 AM

Milan is lucky to win the scudetto this season, not because of the consistency of their game but none other than because their rivals are inconsistent and often lose points in important matches this season, maybe we don't need to discuss how Milan managed to get the scudetto this season, I know if your is a milanistic, and I want to ask how do you think, if milan will be able to defend their scudetto next season?
Because I see so far milan are very passive in the transfer market compared to juventus, inter and even rome.

Luck is not enough for Milan to win the scudetto last season, they did it better than their competitor.
Yes the inconsistency of Inter helped Milan to win the scudetto but on the other side Milan did take the opportunity well.
If they were inconsistent, they wont win the title although Inter were inconsistent as well.
Next season will be harder for them to hold the title as holding is harder than winning (applied to all teams).
Transfer market also not a guarantee that a team will become better so do not underestimate a team just because of their activity in the transfer market.

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Quote from: babo on July 21, 2022, 02:43:00 AM

Quote from: karabiber on July 20, 2022, 11:47:10 PM

Paulo Dybala's transfer to Rome excited me. I hope Jose wants to build a good squad in the team and bring Rome back to its old days. The experienced technical man who shapes the offensive line and the defensive line also needs to strengthen the midfield. For Rome's effective exits from defense to attack, it definitely needs to reinforce its midfield. However, Jose's good use of experience and player capacity makes us think that we will watch a good and fast Roma this year.

based on the limited budget available, Roma are spending money
so you want to strengthen, I think that in the new season that comes Roma will become strong enough and will be able to assert themselves in the Italian championship

I'm still skeptical about the coach, but we'll see

The Roma wolves have slowly bounced back since Mourinho arrived, Roma form is starting to improve, the team's strength is also increasing. No wonder if Roma has won the European Conference league since Mourinho became coach, Mourinho factor has ended the fast of a title that Rome has not won for a long time.
Roma are very determined to look at the new season, after Dybala arrived at a free transfer, Roma's front line is growing, Dybala's experience and intelligence can help Roma increase attack power.

Mourinho is one of the great coaches, I have absolutely no doubts about Mourinho's quality as a coach. But my doubts are on Roma ability to win the Italian league at the end of the season.

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Quote from: masulum on July 21, 2022, 11:00:34 AM

Quote from: babo on July 21, 2022, 08:25:35 AM

luck also counts in this game
a lot of teams have dominated the game maybe, to lose in the end due to a stroke of bad luck maybe they lose (or a stroke of luck of the opponent)
in fact when the golden goal was inserted, it was a mess
luckily they removed it

Agree, few days ago I also said the same thing. Milan was just lucky to win Serie A last season. In terms of players, actually Milan don't have very good players, it's just we were surprised by Leao's performance. If Milan did not have Leao, it might also difficult for Milan to win the title. And the most important luck for Milan, when Inter failed to win, in other side AC Milan lost to its opponent.

Milan is lucky to win the scudetto this season, not because of the consistency of their game but none other than because their rivals are inconsistent and often lose points in important matches this season, maybe we don't need to discuss how Milan managed to get the scudetto this season, I know if your is a milanistic, and I want to ask how do you think, if milan will be able to defend their scudetto next season?
Because I see so far milan are very passive in the transfer market compared to juventus, inter and even rome.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 20, 2022, 06:48:47 PM

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Maybe it's a good deal for AS Roma, but it doesn't look so good for Dybala. Because Dybala's salary at Rome is actually lower than the salary he got at Juventus, the reason Dybala did not renew his contract at Juventus was because Dybala wanted to get a higher salary but this desire did not materialize. For that reason, I don't think Dybala is very happy playing at Roma because he basically doesn't have a club after his contract expired at Juventus at the end of June and Roma are the only team that still wants to sign Dybala and no other club. So yes, for that reason this deal is good for Roma themselves and not for Dybala, which is a shame.

I don't know. I just think that he must be happy because it was his choice to sign for Roma in the end. He didn't have any team that could affect his deal to Roma. You might be right about the salary topic by the way. But he wasn't performing very effectively at Juventus so I think that it is better for him to leave the team as I said before. If he starts performing better at Roma then his happiness level would increase certainly. It wouldn't be difficult for him to be a regular starting eleven player in that case.

Dybala's transfer should be a positive move for Roma and they should be able to perform a lot better and score more goals consistently. If this was any other coach, I would have also said that I am expecting something special from this player. However, I don't have much trust in Jose Mourinho, to be honest. So, I am not inclined to say anything like that.

But I believe that if this player can perform on a regular basis, Roma will produce better results than before.

To be honest, I don't have many expectations for Atalanta in the upcoming season. Don't think they will be able to do anything out of the ordinary.

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Quote from: babo on July 21, 2022, 08:25:35 AM

luck also counts in this game
a lot of teams have dominated the game maybe, to lose in the end due to a stroke of bad luck maybe they lose (or a stroke of luck of the opponent)
in fact when the golden goal was inserted, it was a mess
luckily they removed it

Agree, few days ago I also said the same thing. Milan was just lucky to win Serie A last season. In terms of players, actually Milan don't have very good players, it's just we were surprised by Leao's performance. If Milan did not have Leao, it might also difficult for Milan to win the title. And the most important luck for Milan, when Inter failed to win, in other side AC Milan lost to its opponent.

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Quote from: MAAManda on July 21, 2022, 07:45:16 AM

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i think transfer process Gleison Bremer from Torino is very quick that only few days after losing De Ligt Juventus has been finished Bremer transfer and the fee is 49 millions Euro and he will get 5 years contract until 2027 and according to Serie A players statistics Gleison Bremer recognized as the best defender on Serie A last season and from matches statistics he beat Matthijs de Ligt, Kalidou Koulibaly, and Milan Skriniar so Juventus has just made good decision by buying him

Juventus were lucky enough to get Gleison Bremer, from the financial side, Juventus made a profit by selling de Ligt for €67M and getting a replacement for €49M. Many people say that Bremer is the successor of Chiellini. We'll see how he looks in Serie A next month. I've also heard rumors that Juventus want an Argentine midfielder (Leandro Paredes), what do you think? whether this transfer will be completed quickly like the transfer of Bremer?

However, Torino and Juventus are in the same area of Turin so Bremer doesn't need long to adapt. So yes, if Bremer was indeed declared the best defender last season then of course this was a very great transfer by Juventus, because it did not have obstacles and or long negotiations in recruiting Bremer. About Leandro Paredes I'm personally not so sure, but if Juventus wanted him then it looks like it would be an easy and quick transaction too. But Leandro Paredes is still under contract until at least 2024 and also at the age of 28 I'm not so sure, because Leandro Paredes' performance is also not very consistent and has even declined so far at PSG.

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I don't think of a domination by Milan or any other team remaining in fact. Milan didn't dominate the league in the previous season as they were still in fight with Inter for the league title on the final weeks of the season. I will be expecting another competitive season now and these two would stay in the title fight again I hope. I'm wondering how much Juventus and Napoli will develop themselves. Juventus make me feel like they can be more determined this time but I'm not sure about Napoli for now.

Last season there was no dominance from AC Milan, they played with equal wins, draws and losses. Not so controlling as achieved by Juventus a few seasons ago. 2021/2022 season is the best chance for Juventus to win. I can say this from the new recruits achieved by Juventus. Lastly, they got Bremer, one of the best defender in Serie A. Milan may no longer be able to defend its championship title, Inter still strong enough. Napoli, I'm not sure. Maybe we can see Juventus, Inter, Milan and Roma as top 4.

Yes, there was no team that dominated Serie A last season, because you could say the competition was so tight, and the teams that were knocked out of the competition were because of their own mistakes. While AC Milan and Inter Milan they took turns dropping points which at the end AC Milan was a bit lucky because they did not slip a few times. In fact, it could be said that they were competing with their own team.

luck also counts in this game
a lot of teams have dominated the game maybe, to lose in the end due to a stroke of bad luck maybe they lose (or a stroke of luck of the opponent)
in fact when the golden goal was inserted, it was a mess
luckily they removed it

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Quote from: Distraction on July 21, 2022, 06:41:06 AM

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I was thinking today about Ronaldo and how "everyone" is refusing him. Do I trust those headlines from the news ? Nah. Do I like it tho ? Yes. Why ? Well , how about Ronaldo joining AC.Milan ? Almost all top class players have cross roads with Ac Milan in their careers and besides that ,Ac.MIlan are having a great squad right now and Ronaldo would be the perfect fit for them. Will it happen ? It could be if Milan would have approached Ronaldo.

I'm pretty sure that Ronaldo would be willing to play for Milan also if he gets an official offer from them. Milan are the last champions in the Serie A and they are joining the Champions League at the same time. These things must be enough for him to play for them. He has already played for Juventus before so he knows the league very well already too. I think that he wouldn't have any problem about adaptation to Milan. However they have signed Origi so I don't know if they would be willing to sign another striker now.

Milan will be a good place for christiano Ronaldo, their is no place he can't adapt to, what matters for him is to be in a club that will play the Champions league.but I still doubt if Ronaldo is coming Milan, I got the news that christiano Ronaldo is interested going back to Spain to play for Atletico Madrid.

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Quote from: masulum on July 21, 2022, 07:43:12 AM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 21, 2022, 07:36:32 AM

I don't think of a domination by Milan or any other team remaining in fact. Milan didn't dominate the league in the previous season as they were still in fight with Inter for the league title on the final weeks of the season. I will be expecting another competitive season now and these two would stay in the title fight again I hope. I'm wondering how much Juventus and Napoli will develop themselves. Juventus make me feel like they can be more determined this time but I'm not sure about Napoli for now.

Last season there was no dominance from AC Milan, they played with equal wins, draws and losses. Not so controlling as achieved by Juventus a few seasons ago. 2021/2022 season is the best chance for Juventus to win. I can say this from the new recruits achieved by Juventus. Lastly, they got Bremer, one of the best defender in Serie A. Milan may no longer be able to defend its championship title, Inter still strong enough. Napoli, I'm not sure. Maybe we can see Juventus, Inter, Milan and Roma as top 4.

Yes, there was no team that dominated Serie A last season, because you could say the competition was so tight, and the teams that were knocked out of the competition were because of their own mistakes. While AC Milan and Inter Milan they took turns dropping points which at the end AC Milan was a bit lucky because they did not slip a few times. In fact, it could be said that they were competing with their own team.

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Quote from: bering on July 21, 2022, 07:31:03 AM

i think transfer process Gleison Bremer from Torino is very quick that only few days after losing De Ligt Juventus has been finished Bremer transfer and the fee is 49 millions Euro and he will get 5 years contract until 2027 and according to Serie A players statistics Gleison Bremer recognized as the best defender on Serie A last season and from matches statistics he beat Matthijs de Ligt, Kalidou Koulibaly, and Milan Skriniar so Juventus has just made good decision by buying him

Juventus were lucky enough to get Gleison Bremer, from the financial side, Juventus made a profit by selling de Ligt for €67M and getting a replacement for €49M. Many people say that Bremer is the successor of Chiellini. We'll see how he looks in Serie A next month. I've also heard rumors that Juventus want an Argentine midfielder (Leandro Paredes), what do you think? whether this transfer will be completed quickly like the transfer of Bremer?

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 21, 2022, 07:36:32 AM

I don't think of a domination by Milan or any other team remaining in fact. Milan didn't dominate the league in the previous season as they were still in fight with Inter for the league title on the final weeks of the season. I will be expecting another competitive season now and these two would stay in the title fight again I hope. I'm wondering how much Juventus and Napoli will develop themselves. Juventus make me feel like they can be more determined this time but I'm not sure about Napoli for now.

Last season there was no dominance from AC Milan, they played with equal wins, draws and losses. Not so controlling as achieved by Juventus a few seasons ago. 2021/2022 season is the best chance for Juventus to win. I can say this from the new recruits achieved by Juventus. Lastly, they got Bremer, one of the best defender in Serie A. Milan may no longer be able to defend its championship title, Inter still strong enough. Napoli, I'm not sure. Maybe we can see Juventus, Inter, Milan and Roma as top 4.

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Quote from: yudi09 on July 21, 2022, 06:59:31 AM

Between Juventus, Inter and Napoli, I think AC Milan will dominate again next season even though Inter Milan last season was AC Milan's best rival in the race for the Scudetto Serie A title until the last match, and the most great thing is that AC Milan managed to sweep five wins so they got 26 wins.
Next season, Juventus will replace Inter Milan as this season in the title race because of their seriousness in deepening the squad in the 2022 transfer.

I don't think of a domination by Milan or any other team remaining in fact. Milan didn't dominate the league in the previous season as they were still in fight with Inter for the league title on the final weeks of the season. I will be expecting another competitive season now and these two would stay in the title fight again I hope. I'm wondering how much Juventus and Napoli will develop themselves. Juventus make me feel like they can be more determined this time but I'm not sure about Napoli for now.

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i think transfer process Gleison Bremer from Torino is very quick that only few days after losing De Ligt Juventus has been finished Bremer transfer and the fee is 49 millions Euro and he will get 5 years contract until 2027 and according to Serie A players statistics Gleison Bremer recognized as the best defender on Serie A last season and from matches statistics he beat Matthijs de Ligt, Kalidou Koulibaly, and Milan Skriniar so Juventus has just made good decision by buying him

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Quote from: ShowOff on July 20, 2022, 02:53:51 PM

Milan, Inter, Napoli and Juventus have always been in the title race for the last few seasons. So I don't think Roma have a big chance this season to thwart the current top 4 teams. It's true they had chances, but from my point of view they were no better than Napoli and the other 3 teams.

Between Juventus, Inter and Napoli, I think AC Milan will dominate again next season even though Inter Milan last season was AC Milan's best rival in the race for the Scudetto Serie A title until the last match, and the most great thing is that AC Milan managed to sweep five wins so they got 26 wins.
Next season, Juventus will replace Inter Milan as this season in the title race because of their seriousness in deepening the squad in the 2022 transfer.

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