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Quote from: bitjoin on May 29, 2022, 05:59:29 AM

Ronaldo's position at Juventus was only as a complement, when Ronaldo came, Juventus was at the peak of its glory. Ronaldo came to Juventus at the right time, even without Ronaldo Juventus had won the Italian League in a row. Now just look at Manchester United's performance, if Juventus' success is considered the Ronaldo effect, why at Manchester United Ronaldo cannot improve Manchester United's performance.

No, when at Juventus ronaldo became Juventus' goal machine. If I'm not mistaken he made 101 goals during his 134 games with Juventus. So at that time Juve became in need of Ronaldo, when Roaldo Was absent Juve often had difficulty scoring goals. The problem continued when ronaldo left, Dybala could not perform consistently, Morata was the same. They kind of lost confidence making it difficult to score. In fact they were hard to win in the early match after ronaldo left.

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Quote from: bitjoin on May 29, 2022, 05:59:29 AM

Ronaldo's position at Juventus was only as a complement, when Ronaldo came, Juventus was at the peak of its glory. Ronaldo came to Juventus at the right time, even without Ronaldo Juventus had won the Italian League in a row. Now just look at Manchester United's performance, if Juventus' success is considered the Ronaldo effect, why at Manchester United Ronaldo cannot improve Manchester United's performance.

Cristiano Ronaldo is one of the best and toughest player in EPL Currently, but let's assume that United aren't in their best form this season. Ronaldo came at the wrong time for United and it isn't a good news for Ronaldo. Perhaps with the United board bringing in the New manager, Erik Ten Hag who will make tactical changes in the team and Ronaldo is in his plan of changing united squad. It's very a promising situation for Erik to lift trophies with United team. The new boss will make some few signings for the team.

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It is actually still a mystery why Juventus performed so poorly last season. Of course they will miss Ronaldo, but could it really just be that? I mean they've been champions of Italy for the past 10 years, and they were without Ronaldo's presence. Perhaps there was also a bit of underestimation involved. They are favorites for the coming season, but Inter Milan are certainly no less than Juventus at the moment, I think. But anything can happen in the transfer window.

Injuries were the main problem in Juventus last season imho. Many main players were in injuries that make them unable to play with their best squad every single match. In my opinion, even if Ronaldo stays in Juventus last season, he wont make any significant change. Just take a look at what is happened in Manchester United. Juventus achievement was even better than Manchester United in the local league, while they have equal achievement in UCL.

Ronaldo only contributed a little for Juventus I mean, Ronaldo came to Juventus when Juventus had won his consecutive title and Ronaldo didn't start from the beginning for the Juventus title streak. That's why I say Ronaldo has only contributed a little to Juventus, so with his departure I don't think it's a problem. There will always be times where they succeed and fail and this is part of a good competition, because if Juventus continued to win titles, Serie A would not be interesting. Also, according to rumors that at least Juventus will get top players, hopefully that will come true about Di Maria and Pogba and Juventus back in the title race next season.

Ronaldo's position at Juventus was only as a complement, when Ronaldo came, Juventus was at the peak of its glory. Ronaldo came to Juventus at the right time, even without Ronaldo Juventus had won the Italian League in a row. Now just look at Manchester United's performance, if Juventus' success is considered the Ronaldo effect, why at Manchester United Ronaldo cannot improve Manchester United's performance.

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It is actually still a mystery why Juventus performed so poorly last season. Of course they will miss Ronaldo, but could it really just be that? I mean they've been champions of Italy for the past 10 years, and they were without Ronaldo's presence. Perhaps there was also a bit of underestimation involved. They are favorites for the coming season, but Inter Milan are certainly no less than Juventus at the moment, I think. But anything can happen in the transfer window.

Injuries were the main problem in Juventus last season imho. Many main players were in injuries that make them unable to play with their best squad every single match. In my opinion, even if Ronaldo stays in Juventus last season, he wont make any significant change. Just take a look at what is happened in Manchester United. Juventus achievement was even better than Manchester United in the local league, while they have equal achievement in UCL.

Ronaldo only contributed a little for Juventus I mean, Ronaldo came to Juventus when Juventus had won his consecutive title and Ronaldo didn't start from the beginning for the Juventus title streak. That's why I say Ronaldo has only contributed a little to Juventus, so with his departure I don't think it's a problem. There will always be times where they succeed and fail and this is part of a good competition, because if Juventus continued to win titles, Serie A would not be interesting. Also, according to rumors that at least Juventus will get top players, hopefully that will come true about Di Maria and Pogba and Juventus back in the title race next season.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on May 28, 2022, 03:51:35 PM

It is actually still a mystery why Juventus performed so poorly last season. Of course they will miss Ronaldo, but could it really just be that? I mean they've been champions of Italy for the past 10 years, and they were without Ronaldo's presence. Perhaps there was also a bit of underestimation involved. They are favorites for the coming season, but Inter Milan are certainly no less than Juventus at the moment, I think. But anything can happen in the transfer window.

Injuries were the main problem in Juventus last season imho. Many main players were in injuries that make them unable to play with their best squad every single match. In my opinion, even if Ronaldo stays in Juventus last season, he wont make any significant change. Just take a look at what is happened in Manchester United. Juventus achievement was even better than Manchester United in the local league, while they have equal achievement in UCL.

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Although Juventus' performance is considered poor this season, Juventus have not been out of the top 4 of Serie A for several years. I think it's just a matter of team cohesion, Massimiliano Allegri must be able to restore the confidence of the players. For strikers, midfielders and defenders, that's enough for me. Juventus is my favorite team from Serie A, although Juve's performance has decreased since last season, but I still appreciate the team's solid performance.

Juve's performance is not bad. but I'm sure Juve will continue to hunt for players in the transfer market. they have to find players for their front line and back line. they are not bad but to play more consistently I believe Juve should add to their strength. at least for the target of winning Serie A next season.

a team like Juventus did not get any trophies this season and even they came out of the Scudetto competition this season of course because of that they must immediately improve next season to be even stronger. and the hunt for new players has been very intense rumors at this time. I believe there will be a lot of changes in the Juve team for them to win trophies next season.

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I agree that Juventus became worse, but at the same time it looks like other teams got better as well. Do you really believe that Milan has been as good as this and last year when you compare it to 5 years ago? Same could be said about Inter as well. I believe that there are better teams right now in Serie A and that matters a lot.
If there weren't any good teams, there wouldn't be any viewing fun neither, we wouldn't want to watch it, I am sure that more people watch Serie A then most other leagues, there are only a handful other leagues that people watch more. Hence, it's clear to me that they are great teams, and I mean like top 10 is pretty cool, not just 1-2.

I think this season the italian team performance almost has a lot in common both inter milan, milan, napoli and juventus, juventus are out of the championship competition due to their poor performances at the start of the season, but towards the second half of the season juventus are starting to find their rhythm again, according to I'm not much different from what was experienced by Inter, Milan and Napoli, the only difference is that Inter, Milan and Napoli have played quite well since the season started but towards end of the season their performance started to be inconsistent, but fortunately these 3 teams already have enough points so it is indeed difficult for other teams to catch up with him, that's why I say that the Italian league team this season has the same condition, namely nothing bad but also nothing good.

^ I also agree that both Milan and Inter got better. It was a really impressive performance from both teams. They have only four losses in this season, that alone is quite impressive in my opinion. Also, the play style of both teams was really impressive. When we compare this type of play with Juventus we will see a clear difference.

Milan and Inter have only lost four matches in the season and a lot of people are still saying that they did not play consistently enough meanwhile Juventus has 8 losses and 10 draws. But on the brighter side, they did start the season quite badly and recovered in the end.

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Quote from: zuzie on May 29, 2022, 12:16:54 AM

Although Juventus' performance is considered poor this season, Juventus have not been out of the top 4 of Serie A for several years. I think it's just a matter of team cohesion, Massimiliano Allegri must be able to restore the confidence of the players. For strikers, midfielders and defenders, that's enough for me. Juventus is my favorite team from Serie A, although Juve's performance has decreased since last season, but I still appreciate the team's solid performance.

Juve's performance is not bad. but I'm sure Juve will continue to hunt for players in the transfer market. they have to find players for their front line and back line. they are not bad but to play more consistently I believe Juve should add to their strength. at least for the target of winning Serie A next season.

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It is actually still a mystery why Juventus performed so poorly last season. Of course they will miss Ronaldo, but could it really just be that? I mean they've been champions of Italy for the past 10 years, and they were without Ronaldo's presence. Perhaps there was also a bit of underestimation involved. They are favorites for the coming season, but Inter Milan are certainly no less than Juventus at the moment, I think. But anything can happen in the transfer window.

It's normal on a team and not only Juventus, the top teams in some leagues also experience it like in Laliga and the Premier League
If you ask the reason, of course the players involved are one of the factors they are unable to compete with other teams which has cohesiveness
Like Milan, their players are not too special but has cohesiveness when playing this is needed in a team.

Juventus players have certainly seemed to lose their motivation. They are not playing like they want to achieve something. It feels like they don't have a target to chase. To me, it really feels like they are just existing trying to salvage something. The team coordination is not there. The chemistry between the players that we are used to seeing from Juventus players are also not there. And if we compare them with Milan or inter the case only gets worse.

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Quote from: lalabotax on May 28, 2022, 04:55:14 PM

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I believe Juventus will be able to improve their performance much more by the coming season. They started to perform better especially after they signed Vlahovic. He made their attacking line stronger than before.

Too early to judge they will improve their performance. The problem in Juventus isn't only about the attacking line, but they also have problems in both midfield and defend lines. So, the problem is quite complicated. Another problem, the players have no good mentality as the winning team anymore. The coach must fix this if Juventus wants to improve their performance in the next season.

Although Juventus' performance is considered poor this season, Juventus have not been out of the top 4 of Serie A for several years. I think it's just a matter of team cohesion, Massimiliano Allegri must be able to restore the confidence of the players. For strikers, midfielders and defenders, that's enough for me. Juventus is my favorite team from Serie A, although Juve's performance has decreased since last season, but I still appreciate the team's solid performance.

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Quote from: lalabotax on May 28, 2022, 04:55:14 PM

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I believe Juventus will be able to improve their performance much more by the coming season. They started to perform better especially after they signed Vlahovic. He made their attacking line stronger than before.

Too early to judge they will improve their performance. The problem in Juventus isn't only about the attacking line, but they also have problems in both midfield and defend lines. So, the problem is quite complicated. Another problem, the players have no good mentality as the winning team anymore. The coach must fix this if Juventus wants to improve their performance in the next season.

Juventus has certainly lost their dominance in the Italian league. Now they are not the best team but they still are one of the better without any doubt. The problem is that Juventus is not handling their players well. They have made some good transfers but they have turned out to be a little questionable over time. Recently the decision of letting Dybala go is also not a popular one. And obviously, I agree that the defense and midfield are also not one of the best. They need to make changes in the squad. At least at a level so that they will be able to compete with the current better teams in the league like Inter and Milan.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on May 28, 2022, 04:39:11 PM

I believe Juventus will be able to improve their performance much more by the coming season. They started to perform better especially after they signed Vlahovic. He made their attacking line stronger than before.

Too early to judge they will improve their performance. The problem in Juventus isn't only about the attacking line, but they also have problems in both midfield and defend lines. So, the problem is quite complicated. Another problem, the players have no good mentality as the winning team anymore. The coach must fix this if Juventus wants to improve their performance in the next season.

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I believe Juventus will be able to improve their performance much more by the coming season. They started to perform better especially after they signed Vlahovic. He made their attacking line stronger than before. He didn't have much problem on adapting to them as he was already accustomed to playing in the Serie A too. I guess Allegri will continue to manage the team. Under a good management and with the right transfers, this team can be much more effective. Even if they don't dominate like in the past, they can still play for the title.

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It is actually still a mystery why Juventus performed so poorly last season. Of course they will miss Ronaldo, but could it really just be that? I mean they've been champions of Italy for the past 10 years, and they were without Ronaldo's presence. Perhaps there was also a bit of underestimation involved. They are favorites for the coming season, but Inter Milan are certainly no less than Juventus at the moment, I think. But anything can happen in the transfer window.

I think this is a quite natural thing because it is quite natural for a team to experience ups and downs in performance and this season not only Juventus but there are still several other clubs as well, actually like Atalanta here.
Juventus is currently in a transition period and if you look at the start of the season and the end of the season now of course there have been significant changes that have taken place and this is certainly very good for Juventus now.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on May 28, 2022, 03:51:35 PM

It is actually still a mystery why Juventus performed so poorly last season. Of course they will miss Ronaldo, but could it really just be that? I mean they've been champions of Italy for the past 10 years, and they were without Ronaldo's presence. Perhaps there was also a bit of underestimation involved. They are favorites for the coming season, but Inter Milan are certainly no less than Juventus at the moment, I think. But anything can happen in the transfer window.

It's normal on a team and not only Juventus, the top teams in some leagues also experience it like in Laliga and the Premier League
If you ask the reason, of course the players involved are one of the factors they are unable to compete with other teams which has cohesiveness
Like Milan, their players are not too special but has cohesiveness when playing this is needed in a team.

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Quote from: FanEagle on May 28, 2022, 02:40:36 PM

I agree that Juventus became worse, but at the same time it looks like other teams got better as well. Do you really believe that Milan has been as good as this and last year when you compare it to 5 years ago? Same could be said about Inter as well. I believe that there are better teams right now in Serie A and that matters a lot.

If there weren't any good teams, there wouldn't be any viewing fun neither, we wouldn't want to watch it, I am sure that more people watch Serie A then most other leagues, there are only a handful other leagues that people watch more. Hence, it's clear to me that they are great teams, and I mean like top 10 is pretty cool, not just 1-2.

I think this season the italian team performance almost has a lot in common both inter milan, milan, napoli and juventus, juventus are out of the championship competition due to their poor performances at the start of the season, but towards the second half of the season juventus are starting to find their rhythm again, according to I'm not much different from what was experienced by Inter, Milan and Napoli, the only difference is that Inter, Milan and Napoli have played quite well since the season started but towards end of the season their performance started to be inconsistent, but fortunately these 3 teams already have enough points so it is indeed difficult for other teams to catch up with him, that's why I say that the Italian league team this season has the same condition, namely nothing bad but also nothing good.

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It is actually still a mystery why Juventus performed so poorly last season. Of course they will miss Ronaldo, but could it really just be that? I mean they've been champions of Italy for the past 10 years, and they were without Ronaldo's presence. Perhaps there was also a bit of underestimation involved. They are favorites for the coming season, but Inter Milan are certainly no less than Juventus at the moment, I think. But anything can happen in the transfer window.

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Milan are much better than their look in the past certainly. They improved their effort in the previous season first and it was like the preparation for the next season. Inter are also like Milan as they have been very impressive for two seasons. I like to see the other teams than Juventus getting better in time too. This prevents any team from dominating a season very highly and making that season very boring. I'm already eager to watch next season too. Maybe this time it might be Napoli's turn who knows. Grin

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I agree that Juventus became worse, but at the same time it looks like other teams got better as well. Do you really believe that Milan has been as good as this and last year when you compare it to 5 years ago? Same could be said about Inter as well. I believe that there are better teams right now in Serie A and that matters a lot.

If there weren't any good teams, there wouldn't be any viewing fun neither, we wouldn't want to watch it, I am sure that more people watch Serie A then most other leagues, there are only a handful other leagues that people watch more. Hence, it's clear to me that they are great teams, and I mean like top 10 is pretty cool, not just 1-2.

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The scoring problem was at a really significant level for Juventus after Ronaldo left the team that's for sure. But after they signed Dusan Vlahovic, actually this problem started to be weaken by them. However they are still not good enough. It must be related to the game strategies of the team I guess. Otherwise this team should be able to do more than this. On the other hand, they need to sign some new players to strengthen especially the midfield too. This can make them stronger in offense and defense both.

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