Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) - page 2934.

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Quote from: masulum on December 10, 2021, 12:20:47 PM

Quote from: ShowOff on December 10, 2021, 10:51:51 AM

Atalanta just don't buy a star player because maybe they know the player is not interested in playing for them. -snip-

Sometimes a club doesn't need a star player to be at the top. What they need is how coaches and players can collaborate to make a solid game. Atalanta do not have star players, in the last few seasons they have shown their performance are really good. And, i don't agree about, players maybe not interest to go to Atalanta. I think, their finances will have an effect, they can buy one star players, but it will hurt their financial.

It's true as you say but indeed anything is possible in a team as well.
Maybe there will be some teams that incidentally don't have star players but can manage to reach a good position on the points board but this is very rare.
Because it is money that determines and star players can indirectly make a team go crazy both in terms of finances and performance

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Quote from: Altryist on December 10, 2021, 11:44:24 AM

To buy star players, the club must have a very large financial resources, and Atalanta is not from rich clubs, they do not have sponsors who are capable of such purchases. But Atalanta buys young and promising players and educates them into competitive players, who can play with dignity in Seria A and Eurocups. Atalanta can educate players and make stars who can sell for big money.

With their strategy, I don't think they will change it. If they want to change it, they would do it in last 2 seasons. We witnessed a very solid strategy from Atalanta. They keep believing in their scout team to find young and cheap players for their club. They grow those players up, help them to reach higher levels and it helps their club to grow without need to join expensive transfer race.

Atalanta have different strategy than Leeds United, Deportivo La Coruna, Lazio, Parma in the past. I believe in them.

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Juventus has another chance to win tomorrow against Venezia. Venezia recent performance is bit unhappy. They have lost the recent three matches. They did really perform well in the last game with 3 goals against Verona but yes lost with 3:4. Juventus is in form and yes performing well and has won the 2 recent matches. They usually play well against those who are below the table behind them. So can expect another win from Juventus tomorrow. Lets see.

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Quote from: masulum on December 10, 2021, 12:20:47 PM

Quote from: ShowOff on December 10, 2021, 10:51:51 AM

Atalanta just don't buy a star player because maybe they know the player is not interested in playing for them. -snip-

Sometimes a club doesn't need a star player to be at the top. What they need is how coaches and players can collaborate to make a solid game. Atalanta do not have star players, in the last few seasons they have shown their performance are really good. And, i don't agree about, players maybe not interest to go to Atalanta. I think, their finances will have an effect, they can buy one star players, but it will hurt their financial.

You have good points and I agree with it. Star players does not guarantee anything, talented players who can do great teamwork to make the strategy works is better than star players. It is also not because Star Players are not interested to play for them, it is all about financial.

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Quote from: ShowOff on December 10, 2021, 10:51:51 AM

Atalanta just don't buy a star player because maybe they know the player is not interested in playing for them. -snip-

Sometimes a club doesn't need a star player to be at the top. What they need is how coaches and players can collaborate to make a solid game. Atalanta do not have star players, in the last few seasons they have shown their performance are really good. And, i don't agree about, players maybe not interest to go to Atalanta. I think, their finances will have an effect, they can buy one star players, but it will hurt their financial.

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Quote from: Altryist on December 10, 2021, 11:44:24 AM

Quote from: ShowOff on December 10, 2021, 10:51:51 AM

Atalanta just don't buy a star player because maybe they know the player is not interested in playing for them. The average star player may be more interested in joining Inter and Juventus while AC Milan and other teams will only be options 3, 4 and so on. Yes, this is just my opinion, but Atalanta have good quality in striker where Zapata has now scored 9 goals in 13 games in Serie A. I think Atalanta are good, but they are not very ahead in the final standings.

To buy star players, the club must have a very large financial resources, and Atalanta is not from rich clubs, they do not have sponsors who are capable of such purchases. But Atalanta buys young and promising players and educates them into competitive players, who can play with dignity in Seria A and Eurocups. Atalanta can educate players and make stars who can sell for big money.

I know Atalanta will definitely choose young players to develop rather than popular and expensive players it won't work out and of course they save money instead of buying players but basically the quality is the same, look how Atalanta has now shone with many big Italian clubs conquered then From that point on Atalanta will continue to grow talent and I think their academy has managed to bring out a lot of great players.

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Quote from: ShowOff on December 10, 2021, 10:51:51 AM

Atalanta just don't buy a star player because maybe they know the player is not interested in playing for them. The average star player may be more interested in joining Inter and Juventus while AC Milan and other teams will only be options 3, 4 and so on. Yes, this is just my opinion, but Atalanta have good quality in striker where Zapata has now scored 9 goals in 13 games in Serie A. I think Atalanta are good, but they are not very ahead in the final standings.

To buy star players, the club must have a very large financial resources, and Atalanta is not from rich clubs, they do not have sponsors who are capable of such purchases. But Atalanta buys young and promising players and educates them into competitive players, who can play with dignity in Seria A and Eurocups. Atalanta can educate players and make stars who can sell for big money.

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Quote from: skscengeng on December 10, 2021, 10:37:47 AM

Inter have attracted my attention very much nowadays by their huge performance and form in the league. And they are going to be hosting Cagliari next time. Inter are on a winning streak like 4 games now. This would be really motivating for them in this game. And Cagliari are just one of the hopeless teams of this season. They are in the relegation zone and they haven't been winning for a very long time. In short, I believe Inter will destroy them easily.

What betting option would you take because even if you only bet for Inter to win it is very low odds like 1.1x. But apart from that of course it was a definite win for Inter because the team who are in the relegation zone at the moment look difficult to recover, so it is not only Inter who have a good chance to win big. Because in another match there is also Fiorentina v Salernitana and I am sure Fiorentina will not waste this opportunity, because after all Fiorentina will continue to target 3 points so that the competition with Juventus can continue in the standings to be able to continue to approach the top four positions.

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Quote from: DU18 on December 10, 2021, 10:35:21 AM

@babo I really agree with what you said about atlanta, atlanta is one team that has been able to continue to maintain their performance so far in the league, apart from that from several seasons atlanta has continued to dominate the top 4 positions in the italian league even with a modest squad, I didn't even see there are players who have star status in their current squad, but with the evenly distributed quality of players they have now they can actually appear quite solid in the league.

there was a period in which atalanta went up and down from Serie A to Serie B
but he built, in Serie B he was feared, in Serie A he was not so stable as to be able to remain, but he did nothing
built year after year, slowly moving up the rankings

so you do, if you have to create something lasting
they have the right mindset

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Quote from: DU18 on December 10, 2021, 10:35:21 AM

@babo I really agree with what you said about atlanta, atlanta is one team that has been able to continue to maintain their performance so far in the league, apart from that from several seasons atlanta has continued to dominate the top 4 positions in the italian league even with a modest squad, I didn't even see there are players who have star status in their current squad, but with the evenly distributed quality of players they have now they can actually appear quite solid in the league.

Atalanta just don't buy a star player because maybe they know the player is not interested in playing for them. The average star player may be more interested in joining Inter and Juventus while AC Milan and other teams will only be options 3, 4 and so on. Yes, this is just my opinion, but Atalanta have good quality in striker where Zapata has now scored 9 goals in 13 games in Serie A. I think Atalanta are good, but they are not very ahead in the final standings.

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Inter have attracted my attention very much nowadays by their huge performance and form in the league. And they are going to be hosting Cagliari next time. Inter are on a winning streak like 4 games now. This would be really motivating for them in this game. And Cagliari are just one of the hopeless teams of this season. They are in the relegation zone and they haven't been winning for a very long time. In short, I believe Inter will destroy them easily.

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Quote from: babo on December 10, 2021, 10:26:23 AM

Quote from: hd49728 on December 10, 2021, 09:37:46 AM

Recently, they have not good form but in general, they are not doing terrible things. Even if Roma can not finish this season in top 4, it is not a terrible result for them and Mourinho. Remember where they ended in latest 2 seasons. Don't blame it all on Mourinho and this season is still going. They can improve in future and make us surprise. I would be happy if they can fight for a position in top 4 till very last rounds.

they need to follow the philosophy of my beloved team, Atalanta
it takes patience and you have to build, season after season
calmly, patiently, without head shots by buying random coaches (the special one)

@babo I really agree with what you said about atlanta, atlanta is one team that has been able to continue to maintain their performance so far in the league, apart from that from several seasons atlanta has continued to dominate the top 4 positions in the italian league even with a modest squad, I didn't even see there are players who have star status in their current squad, but with the evenly distributed quality of players they have now they can actually appear quite solid in the league.

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Quote from: hd49728 on December 10, 2021, 09:37:46 AM

Recently, they have not good form but in general, they are not doing terrible things. Even if Roma can not finish this season in top 4, it is not a terrible result for them and Mourinho. Remember where they ended in latest 2 seasons. Don't blame it all on Mourinho and this season is still going. They can improve in future and make us surprise. I would be happy if they can fight for a position in top 4 till very last rounds.

they need to follow the philosophy of my beloved team, Atalanta
it takes patience and you have to build, season after season
calmly, patiently, without head shots by buying random coaches (the special one)

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As for the Sassuolo - Lazio match in two days, I reckon that both of these teams would score one goal at least. Sassuolo have boosted their morale a great deal after beating Milan and drawing with Napoli. They were nearly beating Napoli too if their third goal wasn't disallowed. Lazio should get prepared properly for this match. Otherwise Sassuolo may beat them too.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 10, 2021, 09:29:23 AM

This is a really bad result, and although you can wait (maybe something will change), remembering Mourinho's past teams, it must be admitted that there he achieved drastic changes in the results much faster. In the case of Roma, the changes are difficult to notice (at least if you are not a fan of this team and do not follow it all year round every season).

Because Roma don't have too good players and in past two seasons, they did not have good results. It is different than Chelsea, Inter Milan or Real Madrid or even Tottenham, when Mourinho joined them after they have great season previously.

Roma fell into bad period in club history since 2000. They did not end in top 4 of Serie A in past few seasons and it is why they hired Mourinho in last summer.

Quote from: $crypto$ on December 10, 2021, 05:02:29 AM

I think the current Roma coach is still Jose mourinho and there hasn't been any sacking.
Roma is currently still not right with the coach and also some players maybe due to financial constraints, but indeed Roma have never prospered to be in the top 4 but have always performed poorly and ended the season in a very far position from European competition.
Roma and Mourinho are still fight, even though they often lose to tough teams.

Recently, they have not good form but in general, they are not doing terrible things. Even if Roma can not finish this season in top 4, it is not a terrible result for them and Mourinho. Remember where they ended in latest 2 seasons. Don't blame it all on Mourinho and this season is still going. They can improve in future and make us surprise. I would be happy if they can fight for a position in top 4 till very last rounds.

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Quote from: Hidrofor on December 10, 2021, 07:15:27 AM

It looks like not much thing changed about Roma even after Mourinho's arrival at the team. The supporters were hopeful about seeing a much better game from their team. But now, we see Roma at the 7th position and they lost nearly half of their league games so far. This is really horrible for them and they need to pull themselves together. They can beat Spezia easily this week but they need to keep the wins coming to recover.

This is a really bad result, and although you can wait (maybe something will change), remembering Mourinho's past teams, it must be admitted that there he achieved drastic changes in the results much faster. In the case of Roma, the changes are difficult to notice (at least if you are not a fan of this team and do not follow it all year round every season).

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It looks like not much thing changed about Roma even after Mourinho's arrival at the team. The supporters were hopeful about seeing a much better game from their team. But now, we see Roma at the 7th position and they lost nearly half of their league games so far. This is really horrible for them and they need to pull themselves together. They can beat Spezia easily this week but they need to keep the wins coming to recover.

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Quote from: $crypto$ on December 10, 2021, 05:02:29 AM

I think the current Roma coach is still Jose mourinho and there hasn't been any sacking.
Roma is currently still not right with the coach and also some players maybe due to financial constraints, but indeed Roma have never prospered to be in the top 4 but have always performed poorly and ended the season in a very far position from European competition.
Roma and Mourinho are still fight, even though they often lose to tough teams.

the competition is very high in the major Italian league
that's why the whole world says it's also the funniest one
the more strong teams there are, the more chances we have of seeing good matches
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I'm curious if Milan will have a difficulty in defeating Udinese away on this match week. Milan have been doing good in the Serie A. They are disappointed by the Liverpool loss but I don't think that they will lose their focus on this match. Because this is the biggest tournament or league they have currently. They need to focus on it for the title. And coming back to this match, I think Milan would defeat Udinese.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 10, 2021, 02:04:51 AM

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To get back into the top 4 position seems to be very difficult for Roma this season, although later they can find their best form and consistency in the next match, but I think it will be a bit late, as you said, now it's napoli, milan, atlanta and Inter are a pretty consistent team so far and it will definitely be very difficult for Roma to catch up with them, especially now that Juventus are starting to improve again and making Roma chance to be in the top 4 will be very difficult.

Depend with management how loyal giving much money for Jose Mourinho because few weeks later January window transfer is opening and they can build with new team and get new player. All thing with AS Roma can finish on the top four position in this season depend how serious management to get new player on window transfer, if AS Roma without get any new player I think yeah they hard finish on four top position standing.

I think we shouldn't be blaming mourinho right now, although mourinho has a nickname of Special One but that doesn't mean in a short time he will be able to perfect the Roma squad this season, Mourinho performance in Rome has only been running for half a season and of course the transfer market will be a reference for roma to improve their squad under mourinho, if you see Roma right now, maybe at least mourinho will need one more season to be able to make Roma a Scudetto competitor.

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