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Quote from: sana54210 on July 22, 2021, 04:05:10 PM

I do not think that they are there to help each other, I feel like they are both old (ibra specifically) and it sounds like there is a chance they are there to play when the other one can't, so when one old player gets injured or tired then the other will play.

Ibrahimovic was praised for last year's performance a lot but look at how many games he played and you will see that he played awesome but for a very little amount of games, hence why there is a new transfer, Giroud is there when Ibra can't play, or they will still play together but if one gets injured or tired the other one can step up all by themselves, that seems like the aim. Milan is not really looking like a championship level of team anyway and spending only a small amount is not a problem for them, Giroud was basically free player for them and that is going to at least not hurt them even if not help them.

Giroud is 34 years old and is not a young player by football standards. I do not understand why Milan is recruiting such age players to its team, this is a decision for a maximum of 1 or 2 seasons, and then again it will be necessary to look for young players who will form the main team and this period of teams will still need to go through.

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I'm really happy to see Lukaku and Martinez not leaving Inter this summer. There were some rumours about them but they refuted these rumours by saying that they wouldn't leave. This means that Inter will still stay strong in terms of squad quality. So, they can fight really good for the title again if the players have a good chemistry with their new manager.

They have said before that this will not go away since there have been mixed rumors so that it raises a lot of big questions about whether it is true that the two players will leave and there has been talk of rumors of Martinez going to Barcelona but these have all been denied and they will remain in the game. Inter squad as before.
Although there are no big changes in the transfer season but I still believe in these 2 strikers to prove again.

Heard the news that the Florida Arsenal vs Inter cup was canceled because some Arsenal players were infected with Covid-19, so it might be canceled, but I don't know what will happen because they will play on the 26th.

It's really unfortunate for Arsenal players. I didn't know that. I hope that they get well until the start of the new season in the EPL. When it comes to Inter, I think that they will have another good season. Because they didn't lose their most important players. Their manager has changed but I believe that there won't be problems about adaptation.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on July 22, 2021, 11:21:52 AM

Quote from: mv1986 on July 22, 2021, 02:33:43 AM

I am not sure that Giroud would be an improvement to the squad. You say he can play very fast but actually he seems to be a rather slow offensive player who is relatively good in the box. Ibra and Giroud are very similar in a sense. I don't see how they would complement each other significantly.

Giroud is not a fast player but he contributes to team tactics from Arsenal, Chelsea to France. France won World Cup 2018 with Giroud is their main striker in the squad but Giroud played all matches for France in that World Cup and no single goal for him. Deschamps knows how to use Giroud to attract defenders and to help other players like Mbappe to have more space to use his speed.

I don't see similar style from Giroud and Zlatan and Giroud contributes more to the team tactics.

Quote from: rmhuntley on July 22, 2021, 10:35:36 AM

I like Giroud but looking on his playing kind almost the same with Zlatan ibrahimovic and impossible AC Milan will play both player together because they are an target men, I think both player will play each other and give few minute depend how possible to make goal and who will play more minutes between Giroud and Zlatan,

Perhaps they consider Giroud as substitution for Zlatan. I see it is reasonable because Zlatan will be in fourty and it is not right to require him to play all matches in a long season. Especially AC Milan will return to Champions League. Zlatan might be used more in Champions League and Giroud might be used more in Serie A.

But would you let Giroud and Zlatan both play at the same time? If yes, how then? Zlatan has shown that he is still an excellent scorer. I must admit he surprised me as on average he scored more than a goal per game for a lot of games in the beginning. Then he got injured. Otherwise he might have competed for the best scorer of the year title.

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Quote from: hd49728 on July 21, 2021, 11:57:17 AM

Quote from: acquafredda on July 21, 2021, 11:32:42 AM

Brozovic is the last Inter player that has to renew his contract. The will of both parties is obviously to reach an agreement, but there is some distance. Brozovic currently receives 3.5 million euros and would like an important raise mostly for the results achieved last season. Inter is ready to satisfy him with Marotta and Ausilio who are working on the payroll to try to touch the 5 million euros per year proposal to the Croatian. For the time being, it is only rumors.

Players always want to have salary increase when they renew their contracts. Can you share the source of it, please. Inter Milan are in troubles and have to sell players. I don't see how they will easily to accept request to increase salary, almost doubles, from Brozovic.

This request if get accepted, can result in a bad precedent in the club. Other star players will make same request later.

https://www.mondocalcionews.it/calciomercato/calciomercato-inter-brozovic-il-suo-contratto-scade-nel-2022-e-il-giocatore-chiede-un-robusto-aumento-di-stipendio/emanuele-russo/
Sure, there you go. I am only sorry because the source is in Italian but you can have that easily translated online. I share your very same concerns because this is a very tricky situation for Inter. Maybe he will not get the whole raise but surely he can leverage his position and get maybe between 15-40% more on his current salary.

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Quote from: mv1986 on July 22, 2021, 02:33:43 AM

I am not sure that Giroud would be an improvement to the squad. You say he can play very fast but actually he seems to be a rather slow offensive player who is relatively good in the box. Ibra and Giroud are very similar in a sense. I don't see how they would complement each other significantly.

I do not think that they are there to help each other, I feel like they are both old (ibra specifically) and it sounds like there is a chance they are there to play when the other one can't, so when one old player gets injured or tired then the other will play.

Ibrahimovic was praised for last year's performance a lot but look at how many games he played and you will see that he played awesome but for a very little amount of games, hence why there is a new transfer, Giroud is there when Ibra can't play, or they will still play together but if one gets injured or tired the other one can step up all by themselves, that seems like the aim. Milan is not really looking like a championship level of team anyway and spending only a small amount is not a problem for them, Giroud was basically free player for them and that is going to at least not hurt them even if not help them.

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Quote from: mv1986 on July 22, 2021, 02:33:43 AM

I am not sure that Giroud would be an improvement to the squad. You say he can play very fast but actually he seems to be a rather slow offensive player who is relatively good in the box. Ibra and Giroud are very similar in a sense. I don't see how they would complement each other significantly.

Giroud is not a fast player but he contributes to team tactics from Arsenal, Chelsea to France. France won World Cup 2018 with Giroud is their main striker in the squad but Giroud played all matches for France in that World Cup and no single goal for him. Deschamps knows how to use Giroud to attract defenders and to help other players like Mbappe to have more space to use his speed.

I don't see similar style from Giroud and Zlatan and Giroud contributes more to the team tactics.

Quote from: rmhuntley on July 22, 2021, 10:35:36 AM

I like Giroud but looking on his playing kind almost the same with Zlatan ibrahimovic and impossible AC Milan will play both player together because they are an target men, I think both player will play each other and give few minute depend how possible to make goal and who will play more minutes between Giroud and Zlatan,

Perhaps they consider Giroud as substitution for Zlatan. I see it is reasonable because Zlatan will be in fourty and it is not right to require him to play all matches in a long season. Especially AC Milan will return to Champions League. Zlatan might be used more in Champions League and Giroud might be used more in Serie A.

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Quote from: Spack17 on July 21, 2021, 04:27:20 PM

Beside teams like Juventus, Inter and Roma, I wonder what Milan will do in this season. They haven't made a really big transfer. I'd expect them to sign a young and talented striker this time. But they signed only Giroud. I know that Ibrahimovic is still great and contributing to the team incredibly well. But he is 39. He can retire at any moment. They should prepare a plan B considering this. And this time, I don't think that they will have a better season in the Serie A. But I know that it's still to early to talk about. So, I'll just wait for some time.

How did you see Milan before?did you see it as a team for youths?Milan is a team for men not boys.They are very good at acquiring the services of players that are of age,they hardly bring in young players.And that is how they have been for years.Therefore,Giroud's addition is a good one for them.A very good attacker he is to play along side Ibra.

Giroud's combination with Ibra would be great. Giroud can play very fast, as well as Ibra and extraordinary players. AC Milan had a great performance early last season. But in the last few matches they lost several matches due to injuries to key players. Hopefully they will perform well next season.

I am not sure that Giroud would be an improvement to the squad. You say he can play very fast but actually he seems to be a rather slow offensive player who is relatively good in the box. Ibra and Giroud are very similar in a sense. I don't see how they would complement each other significantly.

I like Giroud but looking on his playing kind almost the same with Zlatan ibrahimovic and impossible AC Milan will play both player together because they are an target men, I think both player will play each other and give few minute depend how possible to make goal and who will play more minutes between Giroud and Zlatan,

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Quote from: kro55 on July 22, 2021, 01:32:34 AM

Quote from: Lordhermes on July 21, 2021, 09:47:25 PM

Quote from: Spack17 on July 21, 2021, 04:27:20 PM

Beside teams like Juventus, Inter and Roma, I wonder what Milan will do in this season. They haven't made a really big transfer. I'd expect them to sign a young and talented striker this time. But they signed only Giroud. I know that Ibrahimovic is still great and contributing to the team incredibly well. But he is 39. He can retire at any moment. They should prepare a plan B considering this. And this time, I don't think that they will have a better season in the Serie A. But I know that it's still to early to talk about. So, I'll just wait for some time.

How did you see Milan before?did you see it as a team for youths?Milan is a team for men not boys.They are very good at acquiring the services of players that are of age,they hardly bring in young players.And that is how they have been for years.Therefore,Giroud's addition is a good one for them.A very good attacker he is to play along side Ibra.

Giroud's combination with Ibra would be great. Giroud can play very fast, as well as Ibra and extraordinary players. AC Milan had a great performance early last season. But in the last few matches they lost several matches due to injuries to key players. Hopefully they will perform well next season.

I am not sure that Giroud would be an improvement to the squad. You say he can play very fast but actually he seems to be a rather slow offensive player who is relatively good in the box. Ibra and Giroud are very similar in a sense. I don't see how they would complement each other significantly.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on July 21, 2021, 09:47:25 PM

Quote from: Spack17 on July 21, 2021, 04:27:20 PM

Beside teams like Juventus, Inter and Roma, I wonder what Milan will do in this season. They haven't made a really big transfer. I'd expect them to sign a young and talented striker this time. But they signed only Giroud. I know that Ibrahimovic is still great and contributing to the team incredibly well. But he is 39. He can retire at any moment. They should prepare a plan B considering this. And this time, I don't think that they will have a better season in the Serie A. But I know that it's still to early to talk about. So, I'll just wait for some time.

How did you see Milan before?did you see it as a team for youths?Milan is a team for men not boys.They are very good at acquiring the services of players that are of age,they hardly bring in young players.And that is how they have been for years.Therefore,Giroud's addition is a good one for them.A very good attacker he is to play along side Ibra.

Giroud's combination with Ibra would be great. Giroud can play very fast, as well as Ibra and extraordinary players. AC Milan had a great performance early last season. But in the last few matches they lost several matches due to injuries to key players. Hopefully they will perform well next season.

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Quote from: Spack17 on July 21, 2021, 04:27:20 PM

Beside teams like Juventus, Inter and Roma, I wonder what Milan will do in this season. They haven't made a really big transfer. I'd expect them to sign a young and talented striker this time. But they signed only Giroud. I know that Ibrahimovic is still great and contributing to the team incredibly well. But he is 39. He can retire at any moment. They should prepare a plan B considering this. And this time, I don't think that they will have a better season in the Serie A. But I know that it's still to early to talk about. So, I'll just wait for some time.

How did you see Milan before?did you see it as a team for youths?Milan is a team for men not boys.They are very good at acquiring the services of players that are of age,they hardly bring in young players.And that is how they have been for years.Therefore,Giroud's addition is a good one for them.A very good attacker he is to play along side Ibra.

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Quote from: blackened515 on July 21, 2021, 10:43:28 AM

However, if they build a strong and cooperative squad next season. They can win the Champion League next year.

New squad additions, expenses and new ones. During the pandemic I heard that Juventus was also in financial trouble. The news that I heard they were very burdened ronaldo recitation. Maybe they will not build a new squad with many new players. Even though they have many sponsors, it doesn't seem to guarantee good finances.

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Quote from: Spack17 on July 21, 2021, 04:27:20 PM

Beside teams like Juventus, Inter and Roma, I wonder what Milan will do in this season. They haven't made a really big transfer. I'd expect them to sign a young and talented striker this time. But they signed only Giroud. I know that Ibrahimovic is still great and contributing to the team incredibly well. But he is 39. He can retire at any moment. They should prepare a plan B considering this. And this time, I don't think that they will have a better season in the Serie A. But I know that it's still to early to talk about. So, I'll just wait for some time.

Milan still didn't yet, maybe. even being in the champions zone league is good enough for Milan. I feel sorry for donaruna only, Milan didn't get sharping step for that potential player, if they managed as well as possible they will get enough money from PSG. Right now, we don't know how potential Ballo-Torre and Giroud are to bring Milan rising again.

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Quote from: hd49728 on July 21, 2021, 11:57:17 AM

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Juventus have only won the Champions League trophy two times (1984/1985 and 1995/1996). Although, they have reached the finals nine times, and have lost 7 times. Their last final in the Champion League was in 2017, and they lost the trophy to Real Madrid with a 1-4 score. However, if they build a strong and cooperative squad next season. They can win the Champion League next year.

In Italy, people say Scudetto is for Juventus but Champions League, let it for AC Milan.

Inter Milan is a club, an opponent between Juventus and AC Milan but they won less Scudetto and less Champions League than Juventus, AC Milan. You can say AC Milan is an unofficial representative of AC Milan in the Champions League.

Juventus lost the title last year for the first time in a very long time, I honestly do not believe that they could build a team that could fight for UCL title. Unfortunately we are robbed from a great season of transfers, this off-season has been silent because teams did not have enough money to make big transfers, it was a pandemic ridden season so the teams basically didn't make any profit and it is hard for them to make that kind of transfers when they do not have the money for it.

PSG is the only one that made some news but that was mostly free transfers so it is not even that much of a news neither. Juventus did basically nothing that could turn them from a team that failed to win Serie A into a team that could win it this year let alone win UCL in the end. Which is why I think the best they could ever do would be to win Serie A this season.

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Beside teams like Juventus, Inter and Roma, I wonder what Milan will do in this season. They haven't made a really big transfer. I'd expect them to sign a young and talented striker this time. But they signed only Giroud. I know that Ibrahimovic is still great and contributing to the team incredibly well. But he is 39. He can retire at any moment. They should prepare a plan B considering this. And this time, I don't think that they will have a better season in the Serie A. But I know that it's still to early to talk about. So, I'll just wait for some time.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 21, 2021, 03:24:01 AM

With the quality of Juventus, they might win the Champions Leugue but they are not best club in the Europe. So they will have to fight with each match, match by match and need luckiness of course.

If Portugal can win Euro 2016, Italy can win Euro 2020, Juventus can win Champions League.

I'm not so sure Juventus will win the Champions League next season. Allegri was able to show his capacity not only to be smart in making game strategies in Serie A, but also in champions. Maybe this is enough to start for Allegri and Juventus, but I feel Juventus will still find it difficult to win the UCL next season. Next season's final will likely remain with representatives of the EPL, La Liga and PSG. From Serie A, Juventus finishing in the semifinals may also have been the maximum result. will see, naybe lucky come to JUventus as you wish.

Juventus is more dominant in its own league compared to the Champions League and achievements always end in the middle or quarter-finals, but I'm also not too sure that Juventus next season will be more competitive with other European teams, therefore we will see how Allegri's strategy is to target next season as champions.

The outside team is more dominant than this Serie A from my point of view, but I know every year there will be changes so it can't be determined, so it's not luck that decides but their own game.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 21, 2021, 03:24:01 AM

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I agree. The problem for Juventus is that this year, many other teams are more concerned with going far in the Champions League than with their country's championship. Teams like Man City, PSG, Real Madrid and Bayern will be more focused on the Champions League than ever. I foresee a season, quite exciting.

With the quality of Juventus, they might win the Champions Leugue but they are not best club in the Europe. So they will have to fight with each match, match by match and need luckiness of course.

If Portugal can win Euro 2016, Italy can win Euro 2020, Juventus can win Champions League.

Quote from: mv1986 on July 20, 2021, 11:19:30 PM

It is very likely that they are going to win the Serie A with Allegri. I don't see Inter as strong and any other team shouldn't be able to compete with Juventus over 38 game days. What is more interesting this year is what Juventus is going to do in the champions league. Ronaldo is desperate to win it once more with Juventus. He wants to win it with three different clubs and I am sure he is motivated again as he will respect Allegri way more than Pirlo. Last year he scored a lot but he wasn't as motivated as we knew him in the past. He might want to prove everybody wrong one more time. The team has the quality.

Allegri can help Juventus to win Serie A. They have good players and good subsitions on bench when they need changes. Chiesa will become their key player in a new season from what he shown in the Euro.

Dybala if can be healthy, he will help the club more. In the last season, Dybala got troubles with the virus and injuries. His absence in many matches affected Juventus in general.

The collapse of Inter Milan will help Juventus have more opportunity to win Serie A.

Yes, Chiesa impressed me a lot recently. He is very dynamic and quick in finding his way to the goal. The one he scored against Spain was superb. It often looks easy when you watch outstanding players score goals (see Messi), but often times those goals are a real masterpiece. That goal against Spain was such a goal. Three or four steps to get a tiny little bit of space, and then finish with precision. He is certainly a key player and they have quite a few of that calibre.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 21, 2021, 02:23:41 PM

I'm really happy to see Lukaku and Martinez not leaving Inter this summer. There were some rumours about them but they refuted these rumours by saying that they wouldn't leave. This means that Inter will still stay strong in terms of squad quality. So, they can fight really good for the title again if the players have a good chemistry with their new manager.

They have said before that this will not go away since there have been mixed rumors so that it raises a lot of big questions about whether it is true that the two players will leave and there has been talk of rumors of Martinez going to Barcelona but these have all been denied and they will remain in the game. Inter squad as before.
Although there are no big changes in the transfer season but I still believe in these 2 strikers to prove again.

Heard the news that the Florida Arsenal vs Inter cup was canceled because some Arsenal players were infected with Covid-19, so it might be canceled, but I don't know what will happen because they will play on the 26th.

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Quote from: Joca97 on July 20, 2021, 07:12:06 PM

I dont blame the injuries and covid problems for Juventuses bad games. For me the one to blame for the bad results is Andrea Pirlo.

The lack of experience from a coach may be one of the factor why a team that has many quality players like Juventus did not manage to end the season perfectly. I might agree with that, but I don't think it's 100% because of the coach because everyone in the team has to be responsible for his work. Their goal is one, which is to end the season with a title in every competition they participate in. Covid and injuries are also another factor why Juventus are inconsistent because when important players are not involved in the match it seem like something is up different.

Quote from: Joca97 on July 20, 2021, 07:12:06 PM

He didnt have any experience and tried to make some wierd tactics that costed them o most even the champions league. Juventus had and has amazing players he just isnt meant for this job.

I respect Pirlo as a player and as a coach. He was a previously successful player at Juventus before he became the coach of that team and it is his responsibility to lead Juventus to win match and title. But in the end not all reality match what everyone planned and hoped for.

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I'm really happy to see Lukaku and Martinez not leaving Inter this summer. There were some rumours about them but they refuted these rumours by saying that they wouldn't leave. This means that Inter will still stay strong in terms of squad quality. So, they can fight really good for the title again if the players have a good chemistry with their new manager.

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Quote from: blackened515 on July 21, 2021, 10:43:28 AM

Juventus have only won the Champions League trophy two times (1984/1985 and 1995/1996). Although, they have reached the finals nine times, and have lost 7 times. Their last final in the Champion League was in 2017, and they lost the trophy to Real Madrid with a 1-4 score. However, if they build a strong and cooperative squad next season. They can win the Champion League next year.

In Italy, people say Scudetto is for Juventus but Champions League, let it for AC Milan.

Inter Milan is a club, an opponent between Juventus and AC Milan but they won less Scudetto and less Champions League than Juventus, AC Milan. You can say AC Milan is an unofficial representative of AC Milan in the Champions League.

Quote from: acquafredda on July 21, 2021, 11:32:42 AM

Brozovic is the last Inter player that has to renew his contract. The will of both parties is obviously to reach an agreement, but there is some distance. Brozovic currently receives 3.5 million euros and would like an important raise mostly for the results achieved last season. Inter is ready to satisfy him with Marotta and Ausilio who are working on the payroll to try to touch the 5 million euros per year proposal to the Croatian. For the time being, it is only rumors.

Players always want to have salary increase when they renew their contracts. Can you share the source of it, please. Inter Milan are in troubles and have to sell players. I don't see how they will easily to accept request to increase salary, almost doubles, from Brozovic.

This request if get accepted, can result in a bad precedent in the club. Other star players will make same request later.

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