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Quote from: Sg4j1n3ll0 on September 22, 2024, 07:47:08 AM

yesterday Juventus played a match where they could have won but they didn't do so due to Napoli's defensive attitude, but the fact that all the teams that go to play in Turin or against Juventus prefer defensive football means that the team is strong and who are afraid, regarding the derby let's say that it will be fun even if I foresee a defeat for Milan

Juventus have just been playing goal less draws in their league games. This is the third consecutive goal less draw this season and it's becoming a problem for them as they can't win games. They did win in their champions league fixtures but they return to another goalless draw against Napoli. Both team played very well but they didn't make the game entertaining. Neither Napoli or juventus could win the game and top the table as both teams were playing too carefully. Napoli is a big team therefore I'm not surprised that the game also ended goalless but one positive outcome is that Juventus hasn't conceded any goal this season in the league games.

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Quote from: asriloni on September 21, 2024, 01:24:10 PM

Juventus must share points with Napoli, and it's a very boring game. They defended well. But their attack was poor. It was still their main problem. They recorded 9 total shots; only 1 was on goal.

They had more possession, so they looked decent on the ball. But their offense was terrible.

Still, there are clearly a lot of issues left for them. Especially, on their attacking line. It seems their coach, Motta, can't fix it with their available attackers. So, the only solution is to overhaul their attack.

Juventus were unable to capitalize on their home advantage to get a win against Napoli. It was a boring game for me because both sides failed to make good attempts to score. There was only one goal on target from each team, that is certainly not the kind of performance I expected. I even lost my bet which I predicted both teams to score. I should have remembered that Juventus always play defensive football and should have just avoided staking the game.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 22, 2024, 06:12:08 AM

I'm glad that my bet on under 2.5 goals won for the Juventus - Napoli game. Normally it isn't the kind of a bet I prefer. Because you know it is more stressful not to wait for goals than the opposite. Grin

It was a boring 0-0 score.

Anyways... Now it is time to wait for the Milano derby tonight. I added Inter win to my parlay as well. I hope Lautaro starts improving by this game. That would make things easier for me.

It seems you have studied Juventus and Napoli matches to have bet over 2.5 because if it were to be me I would have been very scared to bet over 2.5 knowing that sometimes Juventus can score a lot of goals but however congratulations to that because the 0:0 makes it more interesting for you, from Juventus performance so far has convey the message that Motta is yet to establish a standard strategy for the Juventus because non of the strategies he brought has been able to yield any amount of success, so he needs to work faster because as they keep playing this way that's how there chances are dropping because all this matches are supposed to be giving them a complete points.

So actually is going to make things difficult for them if they peak form at the middle of the season, however they did Napoli a favour by playing draw because that was there motive to either win or draw knowing that if they play draw they would be a point ahead of Juventus, is funny to see that Torino is the club leading the table now when it should have been clubs like Inter Milan, AC Milan, Juventus and Napoli but because of there inconsistency have made it difficult for us to anticipate there matches.

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The derby will undoubtedly be the best match of the day in the Italian Serie A. Inter are undefeated with 2 wins and 1 draw. Also, they drew with Manchester City in the Champions League. They played with a very good tactic in that match. They are not yet at the great Inter level of last season. But they will undoubtedly turn into a very good team again during the season. On the other hand, Milan had a bad start to the season. Also, they lost to Liverpool in the Champions League. Inter have a better performance than Milan. They are my favorites in this match.

Unfortunately Milan with Fonseca became weaker, all they were capable of was beating the newcomer of Serie A Venezia, in all other matches the results were weak for such a strong team, the match with Liverpool proved it once again. Inter plays much better and although in the match with City they had to mainly defend, but they did it very competently and achieved the desired result. It seems to me that Inter is a clear favorite in this match, and if they manage to beat Milan, Fonseca can become the second candidate after De Rossi to be fired at the beginning of the season in Serie A.

Inter derby looks more likely to be a draw, because both Inter and Milan are in a declining performance situation. In the hands of coach Fonseca we still haven't seen the ambition of the players on the field. Too many of Milan visions and missions are missing so that out of 5 matches they have only been able to win 1x showing that there are shortcomings that Fonseca cannot overcome. Milan defense is quite bad, conceding 6 times out of the 9 goals they have collected. Overall Inter is slightly favored from the last 5 matches we can see how far Inter performance is:
AC Milan 1-2 Inter Milan (Serie A)
Inter Milan 5-1 AC Milan (Serie A)
Inter Milan 1-0 AC Milan (Champions League)
AC Milan 0-2 Inter Milan (Champions League)
Inter Milan 1-0 AC Milan (Serie A).

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 22, 2024, 06:12:08 AM

I'm glad that my bet on under 2.5 goals won for the Juventus - Napoli game. Normally it isn't the kind of a bet I prefer. Because you know it is more stressful not to wait for goals than the opposite. Grin

It was a boring 0-0 score. If it was played in Napoli's home then I wouldn't bet on the same thing. Because it differs a lot. Juventus are much better at defending and keeping a score advantage at their home.

Anyways... Now it is time to wait for the Milano derby tonight. I added Inter win to my parlay as well. I hope Lautaro starts improving by this game. That would make things easier for me.

I didn't see that game truthfully, but I had the feeling it as going to end that way. Me favorite for that game was Napoli, not just for that game, I'm tipping them to win the Seria A Scudetto League Competition at the end of this season. Antonio Conte is one experienced manager in the league and I'm sure what's he's capable of achieving.
Bout the derby today, I'm vouching for Inter Milan, Did you see how they handled Manchester City during the Champions League fixture at Etihad? Well, if you didn't, they had one of the best and disciplined defenders in the world right now. The manager is also one manager that can handle any great side. Ac Milan lost to Liverpool regardless and I'm hell sure this would be another lose if all goes smoothly for Inter Milan.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on September 22, 2024, 07:38:00 AM

The derby will undoubtedly be the best match of the day in the Italian Serie A. Inter are undefeated with 2 wins and 1 draw. Also, they drew with Manchester City in the Champions League. They played with a very good tactic in that match. They are not yet at the great Inter level of last season. But they will undoubtedly turn into a very good team again during the season. On the other hand, Milan had a bad start to the season. Also, they lost to Liverpool in the Champions League. Inter have a better performance than Milan. They are my favorites in this match.

Unfortunately Milan with Fonseca became weaker, all they were capable of was beating the newcomer of Serie A Venezia, in all other matches the results were weak for such a strong team, the match with Liverpool proved it once again. Inter plays much better and although in the match with City they had to mainly defend, but they did it very competently and achieved the desired result. It seems to me that Inter is a clear favorite in this match, and if they manage to beat Milan, Fonseca can become the second candidate after De Rossi to be fired at the beginning of the season in Serie A.

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yesterday Juventus played a match where they could have won but they didn't do so due to Napoli's defensive attitude, but the fact that all the teams that go to play in Turin or against Juventus prefer defensive football means that the team is strong and who are afraid, regarding the derby let's say that it will be fun even if I foresee a defeat for Milan

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 22, 2024, 06:12:08 AM

Anyways... Now it is time to wait for the Milano derby tonight. I added Inter win to my parlay as well. I hope Lautaro starts improving by this game. That would make things easier for me.

The derby will undoubtedly be the best match of the day in the Italian Serie A. Inter are undefeated with 2 wins and 1 draw. Also, they drew with Manchester City in the Champions League. They played with a very good tactic in that match. They are not yet at the great Inter level of last season. But they will undoubtedly turn into a very good team again during the season. On the other hand, Milan had a bad start to the season. Also, they lost to Liverpool in the Champions League. Inter have a better performance than Milan. They are my favorites in this match.

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Early kickoff games are always full of drama and this one between Lazio and Florentina is something I'd describe as dramatic because for the better part of the game the two sides have been struggling with a draw and then all of a sudden, Nuno Tavares decided that a win for Fiorentina will be nice and had to award a penalty in the 88' to Dodo.
This will be their(Fiorentina )first win since this season started and a good one to give the fans since it's at home and Lazio are looking to see if they can rectify the mistake of Tavares and get a point but the way I'm seeing it, it's over for them.

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I'm glad that my bet on under 2.5 goals won for the Juventus - Napoli game. Normally it isn't the kind of a bet I prefer. Because you know it is more stressful not to wait for goals than the opposite. Grin

It was a boring 0-0 score. If it was played in Napoli's home then I wouldn't bet on the same thing. Because it differs a lot. Juventus are much better at defending and keeping a score advantage at their home.

Anyways... Now it is time to wait for the Milano derby tonight. I added Inter win to my parlay as well. I hope Lautaro starts improving by this game. That would make things easier for me.

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Quote from: Farma on September 22, 2024, 05:23:36 AM

Of course in this match they are too focused on their defense and do not want to take the risk of playing too forward, because both teams want to take advantage of the mistakes made by the opposing team so they can use them to score goals, in fact until the match ended both teams played with a score of no goals which made them have to share points, with this result there is not much change for them in their position.

However, the day before I had assumed that both teams would play with a tempo of play that was not too daring but in the second half Juventus played quite well but in fact there were no results, and with this 0-0 result I managed to win the Under bet because I saw how the meetings of these two teams in Turin were often Under and I bet on this match and the result I got a win.

Juventus did not play openly in this match, they will play safe to not make mistakes but in doing so they also do not seem to insist on winning this match.
Juventus have drawn in 3 consecutive Serie A matches and there is no improvement for that, their performance tends to be monotonous and there are not many different tactics from Motta.

It is still early in the season and the new Juventus coach still needs time to make this team rise, but if there is no prospect in a positive direction, I think everything will be the same, nothing will change.

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Quote from: tusandii on September 21, 2024, 11:24:46 PM

Unfortunately both teams only managed a goalless draw both clubs played fiercely and tried to defend rather than attack it seems that both clubs are not too determined to press each other and only want to share 1 point because what I saw in the statistics in that match was that Napoli and Juventus only had little few shots on goal. Indeed basically this match is quite difficult to predict at first I was a little hesitant to bet on Juventus because I think this club is able to win even with a narrow score and also has quite tempting odds but yes indeed that is a risk because both clubs are in good form the most important thing is that both clubs do not lose points in this match.

Source: https://twitter.com/juventusfc/status/1837551875354509708?t=a04ma9Yuf1lWRK-wciWxYQ&s=19

Of course in this match they are too focused on their defense and do not want to take the risk of playing too forward, because both teams want to take advantage of the mistakes made by the opposing team so they can use them to score goals, in fact until the match ended both teams played with a score of no goals which made them have to share points, with this result there is not much change for them in their position.

However, the day before I had assumed that both teams would play with a tempo of play that was not too daring but in the second half Juventus played quite well but in fact there were no results, and with this 0-0 result I managed to win the Under bet because I saw how the meetings of these two teams in Turin were often Under and I bet on this match and the result I got a win.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on September 21, 2024, 06:41:23 PM

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Antonio Conte is experienced manager, allow him to make decisions for the club and the upbringing of outstanding players. It's not easy coupling with Napoli this season, it's been really a rough one for Napoli but they're also not relenting, bouncing back after several failed seasons means good steps for them.

Honestly, for Napoli's condition like that last season, this time I admit that at least Napoli could hold Juventus to a draw is quite good. This is a fair result for both of them, even though they each had difficulty in attacking. Each only had 1 dangerous shot on target and that was the only thing they failed to achieve. A 0-0 draw is fair enough for them. I don't want to assume and expect more from both of them, because they are exactly struggling to be at this stage after their deep slump.

Look how Conte seriously commanding and managing them from the side. It's not easy for him, but this is the best result right now.

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Source: Conte reacts

I agree with that with a draw for both of them is much better than who looks strong in this match, from both sides both are equally strong but still the disadvantaged is Juventus as the host, this draw for Juventus that they are undefeated this season, so it's just that Juventus' game and attackers have not been so lucky in their instincts to create goals in every match, but until now Dusan Vlahovic has not had a significant impact I think Thiago Motta should look for a replacement for Dusan Vlahovic in filling the midfield, in order to improve Juventus' front line which still has minimal contribution to the club.

Napoli and Conte are still adapting to the game and tactics so the players still need to apply the tactics that Conte will give for the next matches, for a draw I think it's still pretty good for Napoli.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 21, 2024, 01:49:37 AM

I feel AC Milan is just getting confused afterthe got Pioli was fired they could have had good performances with any coach and now you can see they wanted get improve after getting Pioli fired from this team but still they had disappointing performances in the games we saw from this team so far. However, they recently had a win in Serie A but that's not enough for them since they lost the most important game in the Champions League and that's why think AC Milan win soon and get Fonseca fired from this team.

The coach has not determined the right formation so AC Milan's game is not completely consistent and if the coach does not find the weak points then I think AC Milan will have a hard time competing with other teams. Being in tenth place in the standings is not a good position even though they have only played four games. AC Milan have only managed to win one game when they faced Venezia and the rest they drew and lost when they faced Parma.

Next they will face Inter Milan and I think this will be a difficult game because Inter Milan are much more consistent at the moment. I predict AC Milan will lose again when they face Inter Milan especially the match will take place at Inter Milan's home ground.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 21, 2024, 05:00:02 PM

only 0-0 in the big match this evening between Jvuentus and Napoli.
Nothing interesting happened.

They changed coach to avoid games like this, with this result and we are back in the same situation.
Even if they have changed half of the team.

They maybe need more time to knowing each other but for the moment is not looking so good.

It was a fight between two strong teams and there was no winner. This result probably pleased both teams the most. Any team would have preferred a draw rather than a loss in this match, this was such a match. I think it will be a good season for Juventus in the Italian league. They are currently undefeated. Napoli also lost 1 match but they are above Juventus in terms of points. It was a good match.

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Quote from: eightdots on September 21, 2024, 05:20:31 PM

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only 0-0 in the big match this evening between Jvuentus and Napoli.
Nothing interesting happened.

They changed coach to avoid games like this, with this result and we are back in the same situation.
Even if they have changed half of the team.

They maybe need more time to knowing each other but for the moment is not looking so good.

Neither Juventus nor Napoli fans are happy with this result. Both teams with high potential could not score and gave clues about how the league will go. There were two teams that could not use their potential on the field and they disappointed the fans who thought they would watch a good match.

There was a possibility that the match would end in a draw but I thought it would be a draw where at least both teams scored. I thought the defense would be at the forefront in the match but I did not expect there to be no goals in the match.

It's always disappointing to see games end in a 0:0 contest. Even if the match will end in a draw at least give the fans some moments to celebrate by scoring goals. When I saw this match I thought about playing them both team score, but I later changed my mind and picked it as over 1.5 yet it didn't come through. Juventus should better find their scoring momentum as soon as possible. If Juventus were playing away to Napoli, Napoli would have won them. But they couldn't win in their home and it's disappointing. Although it was a high profile match which was a bit difficult to predict, but with this result I will say Napoli will be more satisfied than Juventus because Napoli played at away and their objective was to go there and get a point and they succeeded. Juventus should better wake up and better their performances.

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Quote from: asriloni on September 21, 2024, 01:24:10 PM

Juventus must share points with Napoli, and it's a very boring game. They defended well. But their attack was poor. It was still their main problem. They recorded 9 total shots; only 1 was on goal.

They had more possession, so they looked decent on the ball. But their offense was terrible.

Still, there are clearly a lot of issues left for them. Especially, on their attacking line. It seems their coach, Motta, can't fix it with their available attackers. So, the only solution is to overhaul their attack.

Juventus did well in defense as same as in other matches but their attacking system needs to improve more. If they can not improve their attacking system, they will not be competitive enough for Scudetto in this season. At least they must be able to score goal, even a single goal to win a match minimally. They will destroy Serie A if they can maintain their strong defense and can win match by match with minimal result.

In Serie A, Inter Milan are strong and they will not let a team with not too good attacking system like Juventus, win Scudetto easily. Motta in Bologna already made a magic season with them, but if we see stats of Bologna last season, their attacking system was not actually good. It maybe come from their player quality and limitations of Motta in his tactics.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 21, 2024, 02:05:38 AM

Quote from: tusandii on September 20, 2024, 10:51:47 PM

There will be a big match tonight between Juventus vs Napoli seeing the odds are very tempting right
Juventus @2.24
Napoli @3.45
Draw @3.30
Of course it is very difficult to make a choice because both clubs have performed well lately, while Napoli has won in a row in the last 3 matches while Juventus has drawn in the last 2 matches against Roma and Empoli.
However, I make Juventus the favorite to win the match. Juventus must win 3 points so as not to disappoint its fans because Juventus has lost 4 points recently, a draw is not the expected result.

Napoli's new manager Antonio Conte is doing everything possible to help the club make up for their poor outing of last season while Juventus new manager Thiago Motta is also trying to repeat his impressive records at Bologna in his new club so both managers will be giving their best in the game today. Just like you rightly said, predicting this game will be difficult considering the quality of player in both teams but I'll be going for a straight win for the home side.

Unfortunately both teams only managed a goalless draw both clubs played fiercely and tried to defend rather than attack it seems that both clubs are not too determined to press each other and only want to share 1 point because what I saw in the statistics in that match was that Napoli and Juventus only had little few shots on goal. Indeed basically this match is quite difficult to predict at first I was a little hesitant to bet on Juventus because I think this club is able to win even with a narrow score and also has quite tempting odds but yes indeed that is a risk because both clubs are in good form the most important thing is that both clubs do not lose points in this match.

Source: https://twitter.com/juventusfc/status/1837551875354509708?t=a04ma9Yuf1lWRK-wciWxYQ&s=19

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Quote from: blue Snow on September 21, 2024, 09:14:07 PM

I admit that Napoli's defense was solid enough to stand Juventus's attacker. When we look at statistics, Juventus has 67% ball possession and almost controlled the game during the match. I think Motta must have a plan to sharpen their front line again, they was play draw 2 times with 0-0 results which I think he have the wrong strategy implemented. While Napoli, even they not controlling the game, but their attacker able to take advantage of many opportunities, luckily Juventus has Gleison Bremer as a defender who was able to ward off the Napoli players as become Man of the Match.

What I see is not because Napoli defense is strong but Juventus attackers are a little weak. As you said, even though Juventus has a lot of possession, it's all in vain because the attackers don't have the tactics to take advantage of the opportunity to score.

Let's compare it with the previous performance when facing Roma and Empoli with a draw that was no different from the match against Napoli. So I won't say Napoli defense is too strong because Juventus attackers can't do much.

However, I admit that Juventus defense is very strong and this should be a concern for Motta to immediately improve the performance of the attackers.

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Quote from: stompix on September 19, 2024, 10:15:30 AM

Roma's struggle is perpetual, the team is destined to struggle, part from a good run between 2012-2015 when ironically they failed every time to get their head in front and win a championship they have always been destined to be a mediocre team with inconsistent gameplay and results, taking a gamble what this team might do is always a shot in the dark, apart from the never cheating to disappoint Milan they are in league of their own.

I totally agree with you on that, Roma has always been a team of that style, however for me the time when Roma shone the most was when Emperor Totti was there and I thought things were going to be better since he left, but I don't know, I say something, I think that after the pandemic the most affected teams were the Italians and it is a fact that it was like that, until now with everything that has happened I think that Roma was one of the teams that was most affected, that is what I can deduce so far, although the problem of the technicians is something else, I don't know if there will still be an impact on it.

Capello warns Fonseca and De Rossi needed ‘time’ to flourish

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Fonseca could very well follow, as his position is hanging by a thread at San Siro following one win in the opening five games including a Champions League 3-1 home defeat to Liverpool.

“I am shocked by De Rossi’s dismissal,” former Milan and Roma boss Capello told La Gazzetta dello Sport.

“If you revolutionised the squad, then he has to be given time, not fired after four rounds. It would be wrong to fire Fonseca, even if he loses the derby. Fonseca also needs time, although now it is up to him to turn things around.

“Antonio Conte made his voice heard at Napoli, both in private and public, after failing the first game, and they were given a wake-up call.

Source:https://football-italia.net/capello-warns-fonseca-and-de-rossi-needed-time/

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