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Quote from: beerlover on May 15, 2024, 10:51:35 AM

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If Roma could have won against Atalanta, Roma would have had a small chance of qualifying for the Champions League. But Roma lost 2-1 against Atalanta. Roma's performance has been very poor in the last few matches. This is why the party has fallen behind. Roma have lost points in the last three matches. I guess the players lost confidence. Otherwise, Roma would not have consistently performed so poorly.

Juventus' only goal now is probably to occupy fourth place in the table. The team has consistently shared points in the last 5 matches. Juventus team is not playing much attacking strategy. Juventus are probably happy to share the points. However, I am waiting to see the performance of Juventus against Atalanta in the next match. If they lose this match, Juventus has the possibility of losing the fourth place in the table.

That is true, I do not think that they will have much chance, it is clear that they are not going to be doing all too well, we are going to probably see them have some trouble on the long run. Obviously that is not that easy to handle, sometimes we end up with some issues here and there but I am guessing that Roma will just have to do with whatever they get next season.

De Rossi might be in trouble next season if they do not get better, he was loved for the games that they won after he took over, but he is questionable status right now because of the most recent results, and that is why we should be careful about it, and not really expect him to be safe at his job. If he ends this terribly, and then does not so well next year, I am sure he will be sacked too.

I do not think there is any chance for Roma to actually finish in a position from where they will be able to participate in the Champions League competition. I am absolutely disappointed to see the performance from Roma, especially towards this stage of the season. This was the time when they should have performed better. But they have bottled at crucial stages of the season.

I saw a lot of people get very overhyped about the new coach when he joined. I knew that this is probably not going to last long. But when I saw him bringing in results pretty consistently when he joined, I thought maybe there is a chance that he would bring in good results and Roma would see improvements in the long term. But now I know I was right and they should have selected a better coach in my opinion.

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Quote from: bounceback on May 15, 2024, 10:35:55 AM

There are many changes that must be made, especially by the Juventus coach, so that the team can perform optimally when participating in the Italian League and Champions League next season and maybe by bringing in several players there is a possibility that Juventus can develop, but the most important thing for now is how Allegri must be able to motivate the Juventus players. so that his mentality improves when competing because in my opinion it is useless if great players are brought in, but the coach cannot motivate his players when they are in the dressing room.

It's hard to say what's really happening to Juventus at the moment, before we could see how they were able to perform quite consistently at the beginning of the season but towards the middle of the season they actually slumped, and if you notice that it continues to repeat in the last 3 seasons, we do not know what is the main reason for the decline in Juventus' current performance but still Allegri is the figure who must be most responsible for the condition of Juventus At present, the tactics and strategies used by Allegri in each of their matches look too old-fashioned and very easy to anticipate by their opponents, so it is not surprising that we often see Juventus struggling to win this season.

What you said is quite true, at this time of course the performance of Allegri is questionable and also a consideration for Juventus management to continue their cooperation next season, Allegri does not have the ability to lift the mentality of their players so we do not see any surprises (comeback) from Juventus to can give when they are losing a match, In addition, Allegri ambition, which only wants to qualify Juventus for the Champions League next season, certainly makes Juventus players lose the hunger to win the Scudetto this season.

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Quote from: rendravolt on May 15, 2024, 06:28:53 AM

Thanks to their victory over Monza, Fiorentina again claimed the conference league zone for next season and this time they also managed to shift Napoli's position with the additional 3 points. I think Fiorentina is quite good at managing its players and can always get the desired targets, especially since Fiorentina will also be in the conference league final this season against Olimpiakos later.

Apart from that, Fiorentina still has two matches remaining which will help them secure their place in the conference league and I am sure that with Napoli's performance which is not very consistent then it is completely Fiorentina's.

In last season, we have three Italian sides into UEFA finals with in this season again we have two teams are competing into finals Fiorentina is going for their second final into Conference League which is showing they are having consistency even their performance in Serie A was not good but still now they are having good chance of staying at this level and going for their third season into Conference League most chances they will be able to have all three points against Napoli which is currently one of the worst side in Serie A with having no win into last five games.

Chances are no high for them to have spot in Europa League as they are having the toughest challenge against Atlanta which is having impressive run, and they are also trying to keep themselves into Champions League frame which needs to beat Fiorentina into game which is going to play on 2nd June.

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Quote from: Farma on May 15, 2024, 10:05:05 AM

Overall Allegri has been able to make Juventsu better compared to last season, but to compete in the Champions League next season I think that is still not enough, Juventsu still has a lot to improve to improve their performance, especially they have to bring in several quality players. to fill their squad, currently I don't think there are any Juventus players who stand out in helping make a big contribution to the team.

When compared to the previous season, I think Juventus' position is much better this season. I think it is impossible to fire Allegri just because he failed to get the title or second place. After failing to qualify for the Champions League last season, I think this is a good achievement for Juventus this season. And as you said I think Juventus will have to bring in some other players to face the competition next season. Playing in the Champions League and Serie A will be tiring and if they play inconsistently like this season then it will be very difficult for them.

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Quote from: kro55 on May 15, 2024, 01:32:16 AM

If Roma could have won against Atalanta, Roma would have had a small chance of qualifying for the Champions League. But Roma lost 2-1 against Atalanta. Roma's performance has been very poor in the last few matches. This is why the party has fallen behind. Roma have lost points in the last three matches. I guess the players lost confidence. Otherwise, Roma would not have consistently performed so poorly.

Juventus' only goal now is probably to occupy fourth place in the table. The team has consistently shared points in the last 5 matches. Juventus team is not playing much attacking strategy. Juventus are probably happy to share the points. However, I am waiting to see the performance of Juventus against Atalanta in the next match. If they lose this match, Juventus has the possibility of losing the fourth place in the table.

That is true, I do not think that they will have much chance, it is clear that they are not going to be doing all too well, we are going to probably see them have some trouble on the long run. Obviously that is not that easy to handle, sometimes we end up with some issues here and there but I am guessing that Roma will just have to do with whatever they get next season.

De Rossi might be in trouble next season if they do not get better, he was loved for the games that they won after he took over, but he is questionable status right now because of the most recent results, and that is why we should be careful about it, and not really expect him to be safe at his job. If he ends this terribly, and then does not so well next year, I am sure he will be sacked too.

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Juventus started the first half of the season well. And made the second half of the season very bad for themselves. Well Juventus played like it wasn't the strong club we saw at the start of the season. They seem to have lost their abilities in the field. the players even lose more accuracy when shooting the ball into the opponent's goal. I don't understand what Juventus is really going through. but yeah it's been a pretty bad season. Fortunately, Juventus will probably still be able to get tickets to the UCL.

Napoli are much worse. They have started the season badly and look like they will end the season badly too.

This squad isn't strong enough. It is normal to see them dropping from the title competition this easy. They need immediate transfers for especially midfield. An attacker transfer wouldn't also be bad. Vlahovic and Chiesa have decent performances but there isn't any other player making a good contribution in this area at the same time. Sad

Allegri isn't the real problem here as a result. He has a great history with Juventus as well you know. If he has a strong squad in his hands then I won't doubt him much. They had better get ready for spending a good amount of money this summer.

After having this terrible season things are pretty clear for them to increase their squad's strength for the next season otherwise things can go problematic for them because second half of this season were completely disastrous for them with having significant drop in quality and consistency bring them to the fourth spot with chances to ended at the fifth spot because their next game is against Bologna which is good and can steal all three points which will create good difference of point from them and Atlanta which is having three games left are also looking impressive.

Even their spot for the Champions League is settled as Roma is now having fewer chances to overtake Atlanta and having spot into Champions League Juventus midfield and attack looking not as they needed which is surely the biggest problem which needs to be fixed in this transfer window while they will be having competition into Champions League as well.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on May 15, 2024, 09:46:17 AM

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This season, Allegri has shown positive progress in Juventus' performance and indeed for next season they must be able to perform much better than this season to be able to compete in the UCL and all of that does not depend on Allegri alone, but must be supported strongly. by Juventus management to be able to bring in quality players.
I think it is not only Allegri who is responsible for Juventus' unsatisfactory performance, but the entire Juventus management must also be responsible.

I don't see any promising performance from Juventus in this season and Allegri seems failed although have been success make Juventus qualifying to Champion League next season. Actually Juventus get benefit with Serie A has extra quota for participating in Champion League and current standings just remaining four points from Bologna has one match left. I doubt with Allegri tactician in this season will make Juventus finish on top fourth standings position after being draw against relegation team Salernitana on last match.
For next season, Juventus will appearance in Champion League and must improving their performance behind have several years not participants in the highest of European competition. Not only must promising performance in Champion League but also Juventus need return to Scudetto race after missing almost four season.

There are many changes that must be made, especially by the Juventus coach, so that the team can perform optimally when participating in the Italian League and Champions League next season and maybe by bringing in several players there is a possibility that Juventus can develop, but the most important thing for now is how Allegri must be able to motivate the Juventus players. so that his mentality improves when competing because in my opinion it is useless if great players are brought in, but the coach cannot motivate his players when they are in the dressing room.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on May 15, 2024, 10:05:05 AM

Osimhen was in great form last season. He did not perform well this season. However, one of the reasons for this is that Osimhen has been injured several times. However, Napoli lost the truck badly. I don't expect this team to play well next season and compete for the title again. It is possible that we will see Napoli's weak performance in the next season as well.

I think that if Osimhen continues to stay at Napoli he will not develop, even though during his prime Napoli last season won the title in the Italian league, that doesn't mean he will be successful this season, let alone next season, every season all teams will improve everything with new strengths because the effect of new players, but Napoli's mistake was changing their coach who led them to win the title from the start last season so they lost control, I don't want to compare Napoli with Leverkusen.

But people always assume and doubt that this will also happen to Leverkusen next season, what they see from Napoli's success, but it is clearly much different, Xabi Alonso is at Leverkusen next season of course I'm sure there will be no changes from them in fact in my opinion they will perform better next season, but Napoli changed their coach so they have to adapt again and it takes a long time to process that even changing several coaches during this season, Napoli will not perform well next season I believe that is why Osimhen deserves a place who is new to another team because he will not develop if he continues to stay there.

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Napoli dominated Serie A last season. No team can compete with Napoli for the title. Performed brilliantly from the beginning to the end of the season and won the title. Napoli were 16 points ahead of second placed Lazio in the points table. After finishing such a great season, naturally our expectations were high from Napoli this season.

Napoli are not among the top 6 teams in the points table. Napoli is ninth in the table. In the previous season, this team achieved 90 points. Napoli have only managed to score 51 points in 35 matches this season. I don't think we have seen such a big decline in any champion team in the past. Napoli have won only 13 matches this season. The team had won 28 matches in the previous season.

It seems that Napoli's strength is not entirely in the squad they have. But Napoli's strength last season lay in their coach, Spalletti. So when Spalletti left Napoli we immediately saw that this team had become very bad. Even their performance is not close to their performance last season. And even Napoli have changed coaches several times but the results are still the same, namely their performance has not improved. Even Osimhen, who was very sharp last season, is also a striker who is not so sharp this season. It is clear that the Napoli team was able to reach a very high level because of Spalletti's great coaching. And the club must now regret not trying to keep Spalletti at that time. They might think Napoli became great last season because of their strong players. But in reality we can now see that Napoli's great performance last season was actually thanks to Spalletti's excellent coaching at that time.

I agree with you. Spalletti was an excellent coach. With the help of Spalletti, Napoli's performance was very stable. The team was able to consistently perform well. But Napoli's performance this season has been very poor and erratic. Napoli management has changed coach three times since Luciano Spalletti left Napoli. But no benefit yet Napoli. Rather, we have seen the deterioration of Napoli's performance day by day.

Osimhen was in great form last season. He did not perform well this season. However, one of the reasons for this is that Osimhen has been injured several times. However, Napoli lost the truck badly. I don't expect this team to play well next season and compete for the title again. It is possible that we will see Napoli's weak performance in the next season as well.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on May 15, 2024, 09:46:17 AM

I don't see any promising performance from Juventus in this season and Allegri seems failed although have been success make Juventus qualifying to Champion League next season. Actually Juventus get benefit with Serie A has extra quota for participating in Champion League and current standings just remaining four points from Bologna has one match left. I doubt with Allegri tactician in this season will make Juventus finish on top fourth standings position after being draw against relegation team Salernitana on last match.
For next season, Juventus will appearance in Champion League and must improving their performance behind have several years not participants in the highest of European competition. Not only must promising performance in Champion League but also Juventus need return to Scudetto race after missing almost four season.

Juventus performance this season is quite strange in my opinion, they performed quite well at the start of the season but in the second half of the season their performance suddenly dropped drastically.
Initially Juventus competed for the title but in the end they just needed to maintain their position in order to get a ticket to the Champions League and there is a bit of an element of luck for Juventsu this season.

Overall Allegri has been able to make Juventsu better compared to last season, but to compete in the Champions League next season I think that is still not enough, Juventsu still has a lot to improve to improve their performance, especially they have to bring in several quality players. to fill their squad, currently I don't think there are any Juventus players who stand out in helping make a big contribution to the team.

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Quote from: SUPERSAIAN on May 15, 2024, 08:25:42 AM

Atalanta is a team that is close to achieving incredible success this year and they have progressed well. They will play the final match against Bayern Leverkusen in Europe, we need to talk about this match separately, there is still one week left. Before that, they will play one more final, today with Juventus.

Juventus lost some important players this season and could not replace them with good players. Their last matches always ended in draws. Atalanta is the current favorite in the Italian Cup.

Atalanta meeting Juve in the Coppa Italia final is an interesting meeting. I feel that issues of form and strength are not too important in a final on the neutral field of Olimpico, because it is a match that requires a lot of experience and tradition. In this respect, Juventus is only better, not worse than Atalanta. One thing that is quite special is that the confrontation record between Atalanta and Juventus is very balanced. In the last 7 matches they met, each team only won 1 match while drawing 5 matches. Therefore, this match I feel is very unpredictable.

But whether they win or lose, this final will also be a practice session before Atalanta enters the club's historic match. Europa League final against Leverkusen. Compared to the past, this is an admirable achievement for Atalanta.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on May 15, 2024, 09:46:17 AM

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This season, Allegri has shown positive progress in Juventus' performance and indeed for next season they must be able to perform much better than this season to be able to compete in the UCL and all of that does not depend on Allegri alone, but must be supported strongly. by Juventus management to be able to bring in quality players.
I think it is not only Allegri who is responsible for Juventus' unsatisfactory performance, but the entire Juventus management must also be responsible.

I don't see any promising performance from Juventus in this season and Allegri seems failed although have been success make Juventus qualifying to Champion League next season. Actually Juventus get benefit with Serie A has extra quota for participating in Champion League and current standings just remaining four points from Bologna has one match left. I doubt with Allegri tactician in this season will make Juventus finish on top fourth standings position after being draw against relegation team Salernitana on last match.
For next season, Juventus will appearance in Champion League and must improving their performance behind have several years not participants in the highest of European competition. Not only must promising performance in Champion League but also Juventus need return to Scudetto race after missing almost four season.

Actually, their performance in the middle of the season was a little better even though their problems from the beginning of the season looked the same where poor finishing was always a problem that could never be solved but their performance was still quite good, it was just that in the middle of the season until the end of the season their performance was more chaotic which made their condition worse in the end.

A little regrettable actually even though they are one of the clubs that do concern me with all the advantages where they only focus on Serie A alone but indeed their performance is a little disappointing and does not bring good results at the end of this season so that by looking at the conditions that occur at this time it is very good if they only qualify in the Champions League because expecting bigger it is very impossible for Juventus.

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Well, Juventus really needs to strengthen their squad again by making good use of the upcoming transfer market. Because in fact, in the previous transfer market, Juventus hardly added any new powers except for a few. Even Juventus lost one of their greatest players. So actually Juventus being able to get UCL tickets this season is already a good thing. but the problem is they did get really bad towards the end of the season. But fortunately, it looks like Juventus will definitely get UCL tickets. And this is perhaps what makes this team no longer motivated to continue playing with enthusiasm for the remainder of this season. Allegri must be able to maintain the team's motivation so that they can still win the remaining matches. Or they will continue to be underestimated and their reputation will decline further. So it's possible that Allegri will be sacked if he continues like this.

Juve has to improve in the transfer market after recent struggles. Losing a star and adding little? Thats hard, folks. Their performance makes it a miracle they made the UCL this season. Allegri must motivate the team. Keep acting carelessly and their reputation will suffer. Nobody wants Allegri fired, but if things dont improve soon, he may be.

I think Juve should attack more. They have fewer goals than Inter Milan and other great teams. They need scoring attackers with experience to win Serie A. The strong defence will struggle without a solid offensive. Yes, Juve is struggling. They need smart transfer market moves to reenergize the team. Otherwise, another rough season is possible. I hope they recover and get stronger!

I don't blame Allegri alone. Allegri is not to blame for Juventus' poor performance this season. Juventus' squad is not relatively strong as it is easily understood by their performances. However, we have seen some steady performances from Juventus at the start of the season thanks to Allegri's match strategy. Despite being able to win consistently at the start of the season, we have never seen a Juventus team win by a large margin. From this, it can be understood that Juventus' attack is relatively weak.

Juventus management should definitely take the necessary steps to strengthen the attack. Allegri is unlikely to be fired by Juventus management. Moreover, even if Allegri is fired without strengthening the squad, Juventus cannot expect a better performance next season.

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This season, Allegri has shown positive progress in Juventus' performance and indeed for next season they must be able to perform much better than this season to be able to compete in the UCL and all of that does not depend on Allegri alone, but must be supported strongly. by Juventus management to be able to bring in quality players.
I think it is not only Allegri who is responsible for Juventus' unsatisfactory performance, but the entire Juventus management must also be responsible.

I don't see any promising performance from Juventus in this season and Allegri seems failed although have been success make Juventus qualifying to Champion League next season. Actually Juventus get benefit with Serie A has extra quota for participating in Champion League and current standings just remaining four points from Bologna has one match left. I doubt with Allegri tactician in this season will make Juventus finish on top fourth standings position after being draw against relegation team Salernitana on last match.
For next season, Juventus will appearance in Champion League and must improving their performance behind have several years not participants in the highest of European competition. Not only must promising performance in Champion League but also Juventus need return to Scudetto race after missing almost four season.

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Quote from: SUPERSAIAN on May 15, 2024, 08:25:42 AM

Atalanta is a team that is close to achieving incredible success this year and they have progressed well. They will play the final match against Bayern Leverkusen in Europe, we need to talk about this match separately, there is still one week left. Before that, they will play one more final, today with Juventus.

Juventus lost some important players this season and could not replace them with good players. Their last matches always ended in draws. Atalanta is the current favorite in the Italian Cup.

Atlanta performed more than I expected to perform this season, if we should judge from their recent games, we will score them high, both in Europa, the were able to eliminate Liverpool, that alone is an excellent performance from them, I think they team is very hungry to make a difference this season, although it's our mindset that Leverkusen will win in the Europa league finals against Atlanta but the truth is that anything is possible, Italian teams are unpredictable, lets not be surprised if the unexpected happen in that game.
When big teams meet we should expect anything though is is an existing fact that Juventus don't have all it takes to tackle Atlanta at this moment because of their players but we should not forget that this is a cup and Juventus have a good history against Atlanta unless Atlanta we counter them early and score 2goals and play a massive defense, massive attack if not, this game might be surprising with the end result.

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As Roma still has hopes of qualifying for the UCL League with Atalanta losing the last three matches and As Roma winning the last two matches. This possibility could happen because Atalanta currently has a busy schedule, they have three Serie A competitions, the Italian Cup final and the Europa League final. Of course, their concentration will be disturbed and their fitness will decrease, so they could lose match points in Serie A. Because I think Atalanta will focus on the Italian Cup final and the European Cup final, which are really just a step away from getting a trophy.

Currently Roma and Atalanta are only 3 points apart, so if the scheme you convey really happens, then Roma can definitely shift Atalanta's position. However, in my opinion it is quite impossible if, for example, Atalanta loses its last three matches in Serie A. Because after I saw the teams that Atalanta will face in the next 3 weeks. I'm sure Atalanta can definitely overcome these three teams well (win). The reason is that the three teams are Lecce, Torino and Fiorentina. Maybe only Forentina will make it a little difficult for Atalanta, while Lecce and Torino can definitely be beaten by Atalanta. Although it is true that currently Atalanta is faced with several competitions which will certainly drain a lot of energy from its players. However, I am sure that the Atalanta players will not waste the opportunity to win tickets to the UCL even though they have a busy match schedule and minimal rest. So in my personal opinion, it is very likely that Roma will fail to get a UCL ticket this season. And maybe only competing in the Europa League is what Roma will definitely get.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on May 15, 2024, 04:52:02 AM

Napoli dominated Serie A last season. No team can compete with Napoli for the title. Performed brilliantly from the beginning to the end of the season and won the title. Napoli were 16 points ahead of second placed Lazio in the points table. After finishing such a great season, naturally our expectations were high from Napoli this season.

Napoli are not among the top 6 teams in the points table. Napoli is ninth in the table. In the previous season, this team achieved 90 points. Napoli have only managed to score 51 points in 35 matches this season. I don't think we have seen such a big decline in any champion team in the past. Napoli have won only 13 matches this season. The team had won 28 matches in the previous season.

There is nothing that Napoli can hope for this season, it is very clear that Napoli are far from their expectations with a game like this, maybe they are also confused about their condition with last season certainly being very different, looking at the picture above that there were no wins from the last five matches they only achieved three draws and two defeats, a very bad record for Napoli, how can they get into the top 6 of Serie A when their game is like that with the bad results received by Napoli every week, but not there are significant changes every week and they always lose.

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Quote from: samuraijin on May 15, 2024, 03:56:43 AM

In my opinion, this is good news if Juventus really qualify to play in the Champions League then they really have to reshuffle all the players, I just found some news which states that Juventus recruited talent scouting staff who were previously in Leverkusen management, that's why Juventus recruited these staff in order to find reliable players for the Juventus squad next season, and this is also useful for improving Juventus' playing in the next season and the Champions League, because the current squad, if it is still coached by Massimiliano Allegri, seems very unlikely to be able to change Juventus' condition for the better, perhaps Maybe Juventus will continue to experience setbacks in this style of play.

With their current condition, it would actually be very outrageous if Juventus did not qualify for the Champions League because after all, seeing from the current conditions, of course we are aware that in the end the advantage from the start of the season was actually owned by Juventus, it's just that towards the end of the season they did not have a good momentum that made the conditions of the advantages they should have not run properly.

There were several opportunities for Juventus in the Scudetto race but they failed, they also could not maintain the runner-up position which was actually feasible because Juventus' performance was not going well.
Currently they are ranked 3rd and for Serie A next season there is an increase in slots for the Champions League to 5 clubs so by looking at this it would be outrageous if they could not maximize the benefits and get 1 Champions League slot next season.

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But if Juventus continue like this it will make Roma easily take the position to get a ticket to the Champions league next season, it is not a good thing for Juventus with 63 points at this time.

Juventus earned 67 points already, the one with 63 points is Atalanta which is now on 5th position above Roma (6th). There is no way for Roma to take Juventus position, there are 2 matches remaining for both while the gap between Juventus and Roma is 7 points. So even if Roma win all the 2 matches and Juventus lose all the 2 matches, it wont make Roma take Juventus position.

Roma certainly risked everything with the Atalanta match, losing that match destroyed all their ambitions relating to the Champions League.
Unfortunately, he`s mathematically out of the picture now, he can be resigned to that.

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Atalanta is a team that is close to achieving incredible success this year and they have progressed well. They will play the final match against Bayern Leverkusen in Europe, we need to talk about this match separately, there is still one week left. Before that, they will play one more final, today with Juventus.

Juventus lost some important players this season and could not replace them with good players. Their last matches always ended in draws. Atalanta is the current favorite in the Italian Cup.

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