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Juventus started this season with good performance, they are once a title contenders in the beginning of the season before they started to have bad form towards the middle of the seasons, and now they are going to end the season with poor form, I just hope they improve because it will be bad if they couldn’t make it to the Champions League next season because from all indications, they need to step up before making because they are winless in their last six matches, they drew give and lost one in their last six matches which is very bad for a team that is dreaming to play in the Champions League next season.

Juventus overall form this season is one of the worst. Right now they are risking to be kicked from the last Champions League spot but also from Coppa Italia.
Tomorrow there will be a match between Atalanta and Juventus in Rome for the title of Coppa Italia. The odds are close to each other with a slight advantage for Atalanta which could be understood thanks to the good form of Atalanta recently and the worse form of Juventus.
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It cannot be denied that Juventus' performance has dropped drastically and crazily. It can't be ignored, we see it all, whatever the reason, it's really a very bad decline. Even though the result wasn't a defeat, they couldn't do it in a row, even against a small club and one that was almost relegated. Moreover, against Bologna in the next game? Maybe you will draw or lose again. But if it wins, is it possible that Juventus is actually serious when playing against top clubs and underestimates the clubs below them, so far their performance has always been poor against lower middle clubs.
Juventus started this season with good performance, they are once a title contenders in the beginning of the season before they started to have bad form towards the middle of the seasons, and now they are going to end the season with poor form, I just hope they improve because it will be bad if they couldn’t make it to the Champions League next season because from all indications, they need to step up before making because they are winless in their last six matches, they drew give and lost one in their last six matches which is very bad for a team that is dreaming to play in the Champions League next season.
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Yeah, honestly, this is such painful to see how the defeat experienced by Napoli this time. They lost to Bologna 2 goals whereas they actually have so many trials to score the goals.
Napoli have lost their productivity compared to the previous few seasons, even though they can have many attempts to score goals, they are a poor team in terms of finishing, which is why there is a real decline in the quality of Napoli's players this season.
Victor Osimhen still scored quite a lot of goals this season even though he didn't have as many games as last season, but the Napoli squad no longer seems to have the motivation to play well like last season, making them often experience bad results.
Well, yeah, their level of goal productivity is not as good as last season. There are many chances but they still cannot be exploited optimally. And their line-up and playing style are also not as effective as before. Indeed, training really determines the quality of the players and the match performance of a club. The coaches have been trying, but this is still different. Probably, the trust of the players to the coach is also influencing enough how they performance and implement the tactic given and managed by their current football manager or coach.

I told you if you remember well that Juventus risked leaving the Champions League zone
  after all they played really badly with a crazy degradation in performance, there are many problems to solve not only the coach, the first on the list to pay for the consequences of these poor performances
It cannot be denied that Juventus' performance has dropped drastically and crazily. It can't be ignored, we see it all, whatever the reason, it's really a very bad decline. Even though the result wasn't a defeat, they couldn't do it in a row, even against a small club and one that was almost relegated. Moreover, against Bologna in the next game? Maybe you will draw or lose again. But if it wins, is it possible that Juventus is actually serious when playing against top clubs and underestimates the clubs below them, so far their performance has always been poor against lower middle clubs.
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Atalanta performed well in the Europa League and reached the final. They also took a big advantage in Serie A with a win over Roma for a Champions League ticket. Things are going very well for Atalanta at the moment. Atalanta are also in the hunt for the Coppa Italia championship. Gasperini will become one of Atalanta's legends if he wins two trophies this season. Atalanta can put up a good fight to win the Coppa Italia. Juventus, on the other hand, are struggling to win in Serie A and are out of the title race. They have one goal and that is to win the cup. So Juventus will want to make up for a bad season. I think both teams will score in the final match in Rome and Atalanta will be the winners.
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This year we had a fairy tale in Italy too,it was Bologna who ended 3rd against all odds in the beginning of the season.They will reach the Champions League for the first time after 59 years and that is surely a huge achievement.This was overlooked in the major leagues as all focus was on Girona on Spain who happen to lead the league there for sometime.I think Bologna deserve more credit as I think the Serie A is more difficult as a league,I am not saying stronger,more difficult.
I agree with you that Bologna's wonderful performance in Serie A this season was overlooked by Girona and Bayern Leverkusen's performances in the Bundesliga and La Liga, respectively. The Serie A league has the top five clubs that are competing to play in the UEFA Champions League competition, but Bologna is a serious contender to qualify for next season's UEFA Champions League competition; they just need a few points to secure a spot in the UEFA Champions League competition.
Currently Bologna have secured tickets to UCL with the points they have. Even though the number is the same as Juventus, namely 67 points, that is enough for them to remain in the champions league zone. And yes, Bologna is a team that we didn't expect to be ranked 3rd at this time. And they deserve praise. But it seems that the praise for them is not as enthusiastic as the praise for Girona and Leverkusen. But we will see all three in the UCL next season. And let's see everyone whether one of them will be the team that also surprises in the UCL or not it will be interesting to see.

Currently the fight for the remaining UCL tickets will only be between Atalanta and Roma. But because Atalanta has one postponed match or more remaining matches than Roma. So it feels like Atalanta has also secured a ticket to UCL by being ranked 5th.
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Allegri has not done that bad with Juventus in my opinion. I believe if Juventus had not faced so many problems that they have been facing in the last few seasons, the performance could have been far better from them. But I also understand if they actually want to change the coach because they have not been able to bring in as good results as it was probably expected from them. I just actually wanted to see how Allegri does with Juventus in normal season. In a season where they will not have so many problems. And even though Juventus is actually going to perform in the Champions League next season, I do not think that the authority of Juventus is  actually satisfied with the result that they are watching right now. If they are able to win the Coppa Italia, then the decision might be different. Otherwise, I think Allegri is getting sacked.

I think it is never the right way to just put the blame onto one person. That's why saying Allegri is the one and only to take responsibility for messing up the end of the season is not correct. The players have responsibility to and I am confused how they can allow for things to become so critical that they now have to fear for their Champions League qualification. 2 months ago nobody expected them to lose points nonstop and suddenly be under pressure again to make the cut.

But in the end it is normally the coach who is responsible. I have no clue how Juventus could drop so hard in performance. It is very atypical. But that's the business and if they really miss the CL, I think Allegri can pack his bags and go.
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When you look at Napoli, I think everyone thought they would be the team that is above all others in the future, but there you go. Inter Milan is different and Juventus will have a lot of work to do to make up for that gap that they allowed to emerge in the first place. It won't be easy.
Yes, it is very natural that initially everyone thinks that Napoli's future will be better in the future after achieving success in reaching first place and getting the Serie A title and this condition is very natural, in fact everyone will continue to praise and think about every club that is in first place at the end. season will be the best club in the next season.
There is no guarantee that any club in the big leagues that wins the title this season will be the title holder next season because sometimes the club's entire future depends on whether player management succeeds or fails in terms of replacing or bringing in new players, as is currently the case with Napoli's failure. after replacing an inappropriate coach.

Juventus after last season had a lot of problems and this season had to fail again, usually a club like this will work hard to get good results in the next season and in the past Juventus has experienced something like this and it could be that next season they will be Inter Milan's toughest challenger.
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Yes it is as you said, just imagine that a club of that calibre that dominated the Serie A for decades or at least for a very long time would not win five games in a row. Now I don't want to put them into the same category of Manchester City and Real Madrid, but if you consider what their role was within Serie A, then it could make sense to draw that comparison. If one of the aforementioned teams would not win five games in a row, I think there would hell break loose. It's weird how nothing is really happening and they haven't really been putting a lot into changing the club and moving it forward. This is not Juventus anymore... Sad
I totally agree with your view. It is shocking that team like Juventus with its great history and success in Serie A can not even win five games in row. While they might not be as strong as teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid they are still a big deal in Italian football and should be doing better. It is worrying that club is not doing enough to fix this problem and it is fair to wonder if this is still same Juventus that used to be so dominant. Lack of action and silence from club is not good and it is time for them to take charge and make real changes to get back to their former greatness.

I feel they might have allowed for a gap to emerge between them and Inter Milan. Yes Inter Milan failed again to achieve big things in the Champions League - or actually they did last season because a final is a big thing - but still I believe that Inter Milan will be the dominant team for several years to come at least. This looks very solid and they have confirmed this season what they ended with last season. Sometimes that is a good indicator that the fundamentals are good.


When you look at Napoli, I think everyone thought they would be the team that is above all others in the future, but there you go. Inter Milan is different and Juventus will have a lot of work to do to make up for that gap that they allowed to emerge in the first place. It won't be easy.
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This year we had a fairy tale in Italy too,it was Bologna who ended 3rd against all odds in the beginning of the season.They will reach the Champions League for the first time after 59 years and that is surely a huge achievement.This was overlooked in the major leagues as all focus was on Girona on Spain who happen to lead the league there for sometime.I think Bologna deserve more credit as I think the Serie A is more difficult as a league,I am not saying stronger,more difficult.
I agree with you that Bologna's wonderful performance in Serie A this season was overlooked by Girona and Bayern Leverkusen's performances in the Bundesliga and La Liga, respectively. The Serie A league has the top five clubs that are competing to play in the UEFA Champions League competition, but Bologna is a serious contender to qualify for next season's UEFA Champions League competition; they just need a few points to secure a spot in the UEFA Champions League competition.
What makes Bologna not get as much attention as Girona in Laliga and Leverkusen in Bundesliga is because Bologna has not competed for the title from the start of the season. But Bologna only competes in the race for 4th and 3rd place to get a ticket to the UCL. So not many people talk about it. Girona was even ranked at the top of Laliga after I researched it. And Leverkusen is certainly extraordinary because they are unbeaten so far in all competitions. Not only in the Bundesliga and other domestic leagues but also in the European League. So it is natural that more attention is focused on them.

But I also agree that Bologna must also receive appreciation for their success, who are now in 3rd place in the Serie A standings. Because last season Bologna even had difficulty staying in the top 9. And it is indeed quite extraordinary progress for this team to be able to climb to 3rd place this season and even overtake Juventus.

And there is something unique about Bologna, namely that they have the same record of wins, draws and losses as Juventus. Please pay attention. Juventus and Bologna both have 18 wins, 13 draws and 5 defeats this season or up to week 36.  Wink
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Even though Juventus is guaranteed to qualify for the Champions League next season and enter the Copa Italia Final against Atalanta, this is a failure this season, because they are not playing in Europe, at least they can focus on the league, but this makes Juventus even worse. , there is no better solution for next season than Allegri having to leave Juventus, because we can see that Allegri is not good when managing Juventus this season.


They had a rollercoaster season I must say, I don't know what to say about the manager because I haven't seen all of them games, it's just that they declined to an extent and should do all it takes to stand back up.
The finals is a tough one at least I expect them to win even if I'm happy with Atalanta making it to two successfull finals so far this season. For seasons they have fought hard for this, I would love to see my brother Ademola Lookman winning a trophy at the end of the season, I hope this is not another finals he will be losing after the African Cup of Nations I.

Juventus was linked with Antonio Conte and Thiago Motta. I don't know if they still have such intentions of sacking Max Allegri. At the start of the season he said that, the plan of Juventus is to finish in a comfortable position for the Champions League Competition next season.


Allegri has not done that bad with Juventus in my opinion. I believe if Juventus had not faced so many problems that they have been facing in the last few seasons, the performance could have been far better from them. But I also understand if they actually want to change the coach because they have not been able to bring in as good results as it was probably expected from them. I just actually wanted to see how Allegri does with Juventus in normal season. In a season where they will not have so many problems. And even though Juventus is actually going to perform in the Champions League next season, I do not think that the authority of Juventus is  actually satisfied with the result that they are watching right now. If they are able to win the Coppa Italia, then the decision might be different. Otherwise, I think Allegri is getting sacked.
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Just the facts: under Mourinho, Roma had 6th place + the Conference League title, and in the second case, 6th place and the Europa League final. Without Mourinho, Roma still has the same 6th place and nothing more. Maybe someone likes Roma’s new game, it’s really more spectacular since there are more goals in both directions, but in terms of the result I don’t see any improvement.
I am sure that in the second season without Mourinho things will be no better than now, and I am also sure that it will not be possible even to reach the semi-finals of the Europa League.
The Seria A is tough a every manager knows that. AS Roma have not been able to catch up the expecting coming in from other elite teams. José Mourinho have put a standard for AS Roma since his arrival although it quite unfortunate he got dismissed due to the poor performance he recorded with the club. AS Roma clinched for excellent results and they'll precisely do everything to get back in shape and no longer face back to back challenges.

In competitions where you have specific rivals, it is not enough just to progress - you need to be better than your competitors, and if you are in a position of catching up, then you need to progress faster than them. For example, before taking the title, Napoli had long been in the big four in every sense - their budget was no less than that of the other three clubs. On what basis does Roma want to oust someone from the top 4 is unclear to me, yes, sometimes it happens by itself, like last year with Lazio or this year with Bologna, but systematically this must be achieved on some basis.
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This year we had a fairy tale in Italy too,it was Bologna who ended 3rd against all odds in the beginning of the season.They will reach the Champions League for the first time after 59 years and that is surely a huge achievement.This was overlooked in the major leagues as all focus was on Girona on Spain who happen to lead the league there for sometime.I think Bologna deserve more credit as I think the Serie A is more difficult as a league,I am not saying stronger,more difficult.
I agree with you that Bologna's wonderful performance in Serie A this season was overlooked by Girona and Bayern Leverkusen's performances in the Bundesliga and La Liga, respectively. The Serie A league has the top five clubs that are competing to play in the UEFA Champions League competition, but Bologna is a serious contender to qualify for next season's UEFA Champions League competition; they just need a few points to secure a spot in the UEFA Champions League competition.
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Even though Juventus is guaranteed to qualify for the Champions League next season and enter the Copa Italia Final against Atalanta, this is a failure this season, because they are not playing in Europe, at least they can focus on the league, but this makes Juventus even worse. , there is no better solution for next season than Allegri having to leave Juventus, because we can see that Allegri is not good when managing Juventus this season.


They had a rollercoaster season I must say, I don't know what to say about the manager because I haven't seen all of them games, it's just that they declined to an extent and should do all it takes to stand back up.
The finals is a tough one at least I expect them to win even if I'm happy with Atalanta making it to two successfull finals so far this season. For seasons they have fought hard for this, I would love to see my brother Ademola Lookman winning a trophy at the end of the season, I hope this is not another finals he will be losing after the African Cup of Nations I.

Juventus was linked with Antonio Conte and Thiago Motta. I don't know if they still have such intentions of sacking Max Allegri. At the start of the season he said that, the plan of Juventus is to finish in a comfortable position for the Champions League Competition next season.


Juventus has been linked to these two coaches. I wouldn't mind Motta but I really don't see Antonio Conte as a return. I would like him because Motta has proven to be a great coach and would have time to prepare the team for a great return to the Champions League, regarding At tomorrow's final I would say that we can only hope to lift the cup (it won't be easy) Atalanta will want to win it at all costs but will also be focused on the other big final that awaits them
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I think, maybe changing coaches will make changes for Juventus, whether changes for the worse or maybe also for the better. Because after all, it seems that Allegri also does not have a good ability to improve the performance and quality of Juventus. Because anyway, based on the squad that Juventus has, at least Juventus also still has a good squad because it has players who have good potential too. But anyway, in reality Allegri still failed to make Juventus have good dominance in Serie A this season, even though this season Juventus managed to finish in the Champion League zone. But still, if in the next season Juventus maybe will still fail to improve performance and quality, then of course Juventus will get bad results again next season, because the schedule will be even busier too.
Correct. The change of coach will actually have an impact on two possibilities for the Juventus club. whether this team will experience worse or better failure. Roma was lucky because after Mourinho left, De Rossi immediately arrived who made Roma better now. But I'm not sure there will be a coach who can keep Juventus in good form if Allegri is replaced there. Because the real problem at Juventus is not just the coach. but the fitness of their players, who are often injured, is also an issue that must be highlighted. Last season this club experienced many problems. Whether it's in terms of player injuries or also because of the sanctions they receive. And at the beginning of this season we also saw the same thing. So yeah, I can't expect much from Juventus which is still always struggling with all its problems.
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Even though Juventus is guaranteed to qualify for the Champions League next season and enter the Copa Italia Final against Atalanta, this is a failure this season, because they are not playing in Europe, at least they can focus on the league, but this makes Juventus even worse. , there is no better solution for next season than Allegri having to leave Juventus, because we can see that Allegri is not good when managing Juventus this season.


They had a rollercoaster season I must say, I don't know what to say about the manager because I haven't seen all of them games, it's just that they declined to an extent and should do all it takes to stand back up.
The finals is a tough one at least I expect them to win even if I'm happy with Atalanta making it to two successfull finals so far this season. For seasons they have fought hard for this, I would love to see my brother Ademola Lookman winning a trophy at the end of the season, I hope this is not another finals he will be losing after the African Cup of Nations I.

Juventus was linked with Antonio Conte and Thiago Motta. I don't know if they still have such intentions of sacking Max Allegri. At the start of the season he said that, the plan of Juventus is to finish in a comfortable position for the Champions League Competition next season.
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Juventus' current situation is getting worse, especially yesterday they were held to a draw in Turin by a team that was definitely relegated, it's really embarrassing what happened to Juventus, I think there are a lot of internal problems that are making it even worse. Currently, Allegri can't control his team, and that's causing failure. for Juventus.

Even though Juventus is guaranteed to qualify for the Champions League next season and enter the Copa Italia Final against Atalanta, this is a failure this season, because they are not playing in Europe, at least they can focus on the league, but this makes Juventus even worse. , there is no better solution for next season than Allegri having to leave Juventus, because we can see that Allegri is not good when managing Juventus this season.

I told you if you remember well that Juventus risked leaving the Champions League zone
  after all they played really badly with a crazy degradation in performance, there are many problems to solve not only the coach, the first on the list to pay for the consequences of these poor performances
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The fairy tale in Serie A is not over yet, after Bologna succeeded in securing a ticket to the UCL, there will be another fairy tale if Atalanta manages to win the Europa League trophy. As is known, Serie A will send five representatives to the UCL next season after the new format was implemented and managed to become the leader in the number of coefficient points. If Atalanta finishes fifth and wins the Europa League, Atalanta will go to the UCL via a special route and the team that finished sixth will be replaced. If this scenario occurs, Serie A will send six representatives to the UCL next season.
Serie A is indeed luckier this season than the English league which only has 4 slots to send teams to the champions league next season, after the new format of the champions league is implemented, of course the bundesliga and also serie A have 5 slots to their teams played  in the champions league, for now even the conditions of serie A and bundesliga are not different at all because it is likely to be able to send 6 teams,  But I think a great opportunity to send 6 teams is more inclined to the Bundesliga later because Leverkusen is more favored to win the Europa League than Atlanta from Serie A, so far maybe Atlanta is also very aware of this so they will indeed try to focus more on qualifying for the Champions League next season via the top 5 in the league rather than the Europa League champion which is indeed difficult.

Currently Intermilan, AC Milan, Bologna and Juventus have confirmed and have one Champions League ticket next season, only one more ticket left and contested by Atlanta, Roma and also Lazio at this time,  Roma and Lazio still have a chance to be able to take the last slot from Atlanta if they can win their remaining two games of the season and of course hope Atlanta at least lose the remaining two games,  So far it is a great chance owned Atalanta to can become the last team to qualify for the Champions League next season than other teams, because  they need manage 1 win and 1 draw in their remaining three matches.
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Yes it is as you said, just imagine that a club of that calibre that dominated the Serie A for decades or at least for a very long time would not win five games in a row. Now I don't want to put them into the same category of Manchester City and Real Madrid, but if you consider what their role was within Serie A, then it could make sense to draw that comparison. If one of the aforementioned teams would not win five games in a row, I think there would hell break loose. It's weird how nothing is really happening and they haven't really been putting a lot into changing the club and moving it forward. This is not Juventus anymore... Sad
I totally agree with your view. It is shocking that team like Juventus with its great history and success in Serie A can not even win five games in row. While they might not be as strong as teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid they are still a big deal in Italian football and should be doing better. It is worrying that club is not doing enough to fix this problem and it is fair to wonder if this is still same Juventus that used to be so dominant. Lack of action and silence from club is not good and it is time for them to take charge and make real changes to get back to their former greatness.

I think, maybe changing coaches will make changes for Juventus, whether changes for the worse or maybe also for the better. Because after all, it seems that Allegri also does not have a good ability to improve the performance and quality of Juventus. Because anyway, based on the squad that Juventus has, at least Juventus also still has a good squad because it has players who have good potential too. But anyway, in reality Allegri still failed to make Juventus have good dominance in Serie A this season, even though this season Juventus managed to finish in the Champion League zone. But still, if in the next season Juventus maybe will still fail to improve performance and quality, then of course Juventus will get bad results again next season, because the schedule will be even busier too.
The players are super strong and very good, but I feel that the problem is coming from the coach, and he lacks a new coaching pattern in which he can use to overcome the present situation on ground. These are the players that were doing great initially competing with Inter.

Maybe most of the coaches in Seria A have known his game strategy, and they have taken advantage of that to play a pattern that will outsmart his, making the players not to be able to win their opponents because the opponents know their next moves, or Juventus kind of game.
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Yes it is as you said, just imagine that a club of that calibre that dominated the Serie A for decades or at least for a very long time would not win five games in a row. Now I don't want to put them into the same category of Manchester City and Real Madrid, but if you consider what their role was within Serie A, then it could make sense to draw that comparison. If one of the aforementioned teams would not win five games in a row, I think there would hell break loose. It's weird how nothing is really happening and they haven't really been putting a lot into changing the club and moving it forward. This is not Juventus anymore... Sad
I totally agree with your view. It is shocking that team like Juventus with its great history and success in Serie A can not even win five games in row. While they might not be as strong as teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid they are still a big deal in Italian football and should be doing better. It is worrying that club is not doing enough to fix this problem and it is fair to wonder if this is still same Juventus that used to be so dominant. Lack of action and silence from club is not good and it is time for them to take charge and make real changes to get back to their former greatness.

I think, maybe changing coaches will make changes for Juventus, whether changes for the worse or maybe also for the better. Because after all, it seems that Allegri also does not have a good ability to improve the performance and quality of Juventus. Because anyway, based on the squad that Juventus has, at least Juventus also still has a good squad because it has players who have good potential too. But anyway, in reality Allegri still failed to make Juventus have good dominance in Serie A this season, even though this season Juventus managed to finish in the Champion League zone. But still, if in the next season Juventus maybe will still fail to improve performance and quality, then of course Juventus will get bad results again next season, because the schedule will be even busier too.

The truth is that Juve left me speechless, I didn't think they were going to suffer so much, in fact Bologna managed to put themselves 3rd in the table, equaling Juve in points, I think this is very bad for Juve, yes, think about it That Allegri got what he wanted, because that was his goal, however, will it be good to leave it? Or that a new coach leaves and comes? I don't know, let's remember that Allegri managed to be with them when they were in a big ban for a few seasons, now he managed to get him out of that area and they have them in UCL, so in view of this will it be fair to take him out? Will it be fair to judge Allegri? I think he deserves an opportunity, if they have given Xavi a few opportunities at Barcelona, why not give it to Allegri at Juve?
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Yes it is as you said, just imagine that a club of that calibre that dominated the Serie A for decades or at least for a very long time would not win five games in a row. Now I don't want to put them into the same category of Manchester City and Real Madrid, but if you consider what their role was within Serie A, then it could make sense to draw that comparison. If one of the aforementioned teams would not win five games in a row, I think there would hell break loose. It's weird how nothing is really happening and they haven't really been putting a lot into changing the club and moving it forward. This is not Juventus anymore... Sad
I totally agree with your view. It is shocking that team like Juventus with its great history and success in Serie A can not even win five games in row. While they might not be as strong as teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid they are still a big deal in Italian football and should be doing better. It is worrying that club is not doing enough to fix this problem and it is fair to wonder if this is still same Juventus that used to be so dominant. Lack of action and silence from club is not good and it is time for them to take charge and make real changes to get back to their former greatness.

I think, maybe changing coaches will make changes for Juventus, whether changes for the worse or maybe also for the better. Because after all, it seems that Allegri also does not have a good ability to improve the performance and quality of Juventus. Because anyway, based on the squad that Juventus has, at least Juventus also still has a good squad because it has players who have good potential too. But anyway, in reality Allegri still failed to make Juventus have good dominance in Serie A this season, even though this season Juventus managed to finish in the Champion League zone. But still, if in the next season Juventus maybe will still fail to improve performance and quality, then of course Juventus will get bad results again next season, because the schedule will be even busier too.
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