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There's absolutely nothing wrong about being a casino worker and also delving in gambling with the casino but while doing so it's appropriate to stay responsible with how the individual would wanna gamble. Your friend gambling away his salary is a show of addiction and he needs to stop it or resign from working there at least that may help him stop gambling.

He will probably need to learn to control his emotions, resigning wouldn't help but will only make things worse because if he has a slight addiction, he will struggle without a job because right now, he gambles after earning money, but if he keeps gambling without having a stable source of income, he will suffer even more. So his best bet is to try and control his emotions, gamble only with a limited amount, and stop when it runs out.

I also think that a casino shouldn't allow their employees to gamble only to prevent them from getting addicted to gambling and causing trouble for the house directly or indirectly, but I guess they would never do that since they would surely want the money to stay with the house which means if an employee is getting his salary and then losing it back to the house, they are getting their money back, lol.
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I see it in the other way round, people who works in a casino exposed to lot of gambling actions means the outcomes too so they are probably aware of more people lose than winning that itself enough to make a conclusion unless they are not open enough to see the reality and see only they want to see.

It's just as another job, people got bills to pay so that runs on their mind than experiencing the fun but doing it once in a while isn't bad either like a waitress can go to a decent restaurant for dinner once in a while.
maybe the experience of seeing more gamblers who lose is also good for building the mindset of casino employees only to be slightly involved in gambling bets. but I have faith that they must also do gambling activities outside of their working hours.
casino employees may have their own way of relieving work pressure, such as going to parties that can be fun for them too, and can really get away from the gambling activities they usually do.

Yes, we are of the same mind in this matter, I also think that the defeat experienced by many visitors should be a valuable lesson for employees to limit their desire to gamble so that they do not suffer the same fate as visitors who experience large losses, but the analogy can also be the other way around, in the sense that in casinos visitors not only experience defeat but also victory and maybe that can also be one of the factors that makes employees tempted to gamble excessively.

As you predicted, casino employees may have their own way to relieve work stress outside of gambling, and I think it should be like that, but the problem is that there are two possibilities that they can take, namely choosing another type of entertainment because they see the slump experienced by visitors due to big losses or vice versa.
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I was discussing with my friend that works in a physical casino yesterday evening. He lamented that his work environment has exposed him to gambling excessively that he hardly saves enough, if at all at the end of the month although he sees good funds from the tips he receives regularly from his clients that clinches wins. He also receives a manageable salary at month-end, but almost everything goes back into gambling.

He stressed that working in a casino exposes you to irresistible desires to gamble and you can do little about it.

I told him that it's possible to save part of the money and gamble with the rest and this was my strategy.

I agree with your friend thta working in a casino exposes the individual into developing an interest or desire to gamble but however, such desire isn't irresistible. I have seen people tht work in a casino and have never gambled for ones, and it has become a character about them that they don't get moved by it.

What actually makes people that works in casino's to also venture into gambling is due to how they have been witnessing the wins of the gamblers who come to gamble in their casino. Not that they initially wished to engage in gambling as workers of the casino but they just get lured by the wins of their clients supposing they also can get same lucky winnings.

There's absolutely nothing wrong about being a casino worker and also delving in gambling with the casino but while doing so it's appropriate to stay responsible with how the individual would wanna gamble. Your friend gambling away his salary is a show of addiction and he needs to stop it or resign from working there at least that may help him stop gambling.
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Before you accept the to work with the physical casino either as a cashier or other positions, the person must have an internal (what is gambling) experience of gambling before accepting the position. And if you don't gamble before and you accept the position to be a cashier, one day you must play gamble in the office before when you hear or see someone wins $2,000, $3,000 and $4,000+ and you are the one to pay the person of the wins. Mate, you will play one day to see if you can win such amount to start up your own business.

The possibility of not playing gamble in the physical casino when you are the cashier in the shop is very minimal. And it is not possible because you have to set games and book games for the gamblers and there are times you even play for them so it likely that you will end up to be an addicted gambler.
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I can understand your friend's situation. But we should never mix the profession and gamble anyway. Your friend's duty is to provide facilities for gamblers, in return, he is getting salary and tips as well. So he shouldn't gamble there besides of his profession. Your suggestion almost matches my idea. If your friend is a gambler, then he should gamble after his duty time ends. And from the part tips he is getting, he could use for gambling. Not just like gamble all the funds that he earned from the tips. Rather, I will advise you to ignore gambling and focus on making money from tips. Everyone won't gain from gambling either in a in a real or online casino. 
I would like to also agree with your opinion.
Here I want to give an example as I work part time in a restaurant and I am a foodie myself.  I can eat a certain amount from my celery every week or every day at that restaurant. That doesn't mean I'm going to blow all my money on those restaurant meals
Likewise, working in a casino doesn't mean you have to gamble all the time or spend your entire salary there.  Being a gambler is nothing wrong, but neglecting your responsibilities and crossing your limits is nothing but stupid.
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If they know that they can not win from the casino, they will choose not to playing gambling. If they work in a casino because to meet their needs, they should focus with their work and not trying to playing gambling. Even they already see how people lose control in a casino and makes the employee hard to control those who becomes mad and ruins something in that casino. That should makes them not spends their salary just to make more money because that will not easy for them so they better to saves their salary for their needs.
It depends on how those people can hold themselves by not playing gambling in casino and understand the effects that they can get from gambling. So they will not trying to playing gambling when that just give a bad effect to them.

In some casinos, the rules explicitly prohibit employees from playing in other gaming establishments. And this is understandable, if a casino employee, after finishing work, goes across the street and continues to place bets, instead of resting and then the next day comes to his main place of work sleepy, then this can entail large losses for the casino.
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I can understand your friend's situation. But we should never mix the profession and gamble anyway. Your friend's duty is to provide facilities for gamblers, in return, he is getting salary and tips as well. So he shouldn't gamble there besides of his profession. Your suggestion almost matches my idea. If your friend is a gambler, then he should gamble after his duty time ends. And from the part tips he is getting, he could use for gambling. Not just like gamble all the funds that he earned from the tips. Rather, I will advise you to ignore gambling and focus on making money from tips. Everyone won't gain from gambling either in a in a real or online casino. 
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I see it in the other way round, people who works in a casino exposed to lot of gambling actions means the outcomes too so they are probably aware of more people lose than winning that itself enough to make a conclusion unless they are not open enough to see the reality and see only they want to see.

It's just as another job, people got bills to pay so that runs on their mind than experiencing the fun but doing it once in a while isn't bad either like a waitress can go to a decent restaurant for dinner once in a while.
maybe the experience of seeing more gamblers who lose is also good for building the mindset of casino employees only to be slightly involved in gambling bets. but I have faith that they must also do gambling activities outside of their working hours.
casino employees may have their own way of relieving work pressure, such as going to parties that can be fun for them too, and can really get away from the gambling activities they usually do.
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I was discussing with my friend that works in a physical casino yesterday evening. He lamented that his work environment has exposed him to gambling excessively that he hardly saves enough, if at all at the end of the month although he sees good funds from the tips he receives regularly from his clients that clinches wins. He also receives a manageable salary at month-end, but almost everything goes back into gambling.

He stressed that working in a casino exposes you to irresistible desires to gamble and you can do little about it.

I told him that it's possible to save part of the money and gamble with the rest and this was my strategy.
I asked him not to gamble until it's 6pm in the evening and by then he should divide his daily tips into five places, then go straight to a money collection point tho deposit 4/5 of the funds, then come back to gamble with the rest, he agreed to try it out from today and I'm yet to hear of his success as at now. We also agreed that he'll open a fixed deposit account where his salary goes in and remain untouched until every 6 months as his main savings since his tips are enough for his daily expenses

This got me thinking and I decided to share it here, is it not possible to work in a casino and not gamble?
Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?
Let me have your thoughts on this.
I am not sure what the issue of temptation be, at least if you operated table games every day, then you would slowly learn that most people are walking away after losing their money, not winning a lot. And that's probably pretty sad when you need to watch people losing money daily, and people who would lose a lot with you, would see you as bad luck.

That can't do good for your self-image when it's happening all the time. At least i would be hoping that my customers would win more, so i wouldn't feel as guilty, even though it wouldn't be my fault.

But if you work at the bar / door man / cleaning, you would probably be having a confirmation bias as you wouldn't focus on one game. It would just seem that that everyone has lots of money to spend. That would probably trigger some responses for gambling positivity.

But i would imagine that casino doesn't even want their workers to play, as people who work around money need to be responsible about money. That's why banks don't hire people that are irresponsible with their money, as they might end up being broke and steal money.

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This got me thinking and I decided to share it here, is it not possible to work in a casino and not gamble?
Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?
Let me have your thoughts on this.
I see it in the other way round, people who works in a casino exposed to lot of gambling actions means the outcomes too so they are probably aware of more people lose than winning that itself enough to make a conclusion unless they are not open enough to see the reality and see only they want to see.

It's just as another job, people got bills to pay so that runs on their mind than experiencing the fun but doing it once in a while isn't bad either like a waitress can go to a decent restaurant for dinner once in a while.
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If most of the players in the casino where he works are losing money, the employee is afraid of losing money and does not play. If many players around him are making money, he may want to play so that he can also earn money.
I think gambling is a disease. If an employee has never gambled before, he can stop gambling, but if he has gambled before, he cannot stop gambling.
But I want to review it from a different perspective. If a gambler in a casino spends all of his monthly salary, he must wonder after a few months whether his other staff are doing the same or something else. He can also change himself by seeing their condition. In that case, if other colleagues who are present also behave the same way in gambling then that person will also lose all their money in the same way. But since that person is an employee of an organization he must work according to the rules and regulations. If he gambles like any other normal gambler without telling anyone about his gambling, that is his responsibility. Every gambler must manage gambling by setting a limit.
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If a casino worker realizes that he is losing all the money he has earned, then a reasonable step would be to quit the job and get a job where there are no temptations. There is no point in exhausting yourself with work if all the money you earn stays in the casino.

A few years ago I met a man. He worked as a croupier. After work he liked to drink and gamble. He was well aware of the risks of gambling, but he liked to have fun that way. Now he works a regular job and doesn't gamble. I once asked him why he stopped gambling. He said he wasn't interested anymore. So, yes, environment plays a very important role in a person's life, especially if you have not learned to control yourself.

I've read stories of casino workers who turned out to become gamblers as soon as they got into the job. From all the stories they is one about a girl in her late 20s who weren't able to stop gambling because the first day she tried to gamble—after work, she wagered $2 and won $600, afterwards she had to check other casinos, where she'll focus and gamble without getting distracted by her colleagues. She confirmed that problem gambling amongst casino workers is increasing and it's some thing the government must look into.

Come to think of it this way—as a croupier you watch people win big amounts every day, they'll be no way on earth that you'll avoid the call of other colleagues persuading you to gamble with them. Like you said, the person need to change their environment, but not when they're already caught up with problem gambling.  
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The meaning of the proverb above is very appropriate that we cannot avoid something from the influence of the environment from the workplace, even though we have committed never to gamble at work but the influence of other people who are gambling to win will trigger your desire to gamble small betting sessions trying to win like other gamblers, if you can not control the control of the temptation it will worsen your mind to always use the results of work income only to gamble. There are steps to motivate you to avoid gambling that you have to busy yourself to work without paying attention to other people who gamble and you should know every gambler has lost a lot of money in gambling and they never win above the amount of losses that have been lost in gambling.

If the person keep on watching the gambling without a play it’s enough for them to become a gambler in a short period of time.The person who involved in the gambling will adapt to the gambling by seeing daily and one day he will start to play the game with the less capital money.After some games,mostly the gambler will get addicted to the gambling.In this way the person who working in the gambling will start to play and become a gambling addict in some days.The gambler who try to recover the loss money in the gambling will loss the more money at the end.
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If a casino worker realizes that he is losing all the money he has earned, then a reasonable step would be to quit the job and get a job where there are no temptations. There is no point in exhausting yourself with work if all the money you earn stays in the casino.

A few years ago I met a man. He worked as a croupier. After work he liked to drink and gamble. He was well aware of the risks of gambling, but he liked to have fun that way. Now he works a regular job and doesn't gamble. I once asked him why he stopped gambling. He said he wasn't interested anymore. So, yes, environment plays a very important role in a person's life, especially if you have not learned to control yourself.
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There is a saying "your environment influences you", it happens in most cases but it does not 100% true because it will always depending on how we control ourselves.
It is possible to not become gambler although we are working on a casino, it depends on what is our main purpose why do we work on the casino.
Lets say our main purpose is to have good income from the job only, just stick/focus on it and keep it on our mind as hard as possible.
No doubt that temptations will come sooner or later especially when we see some people win huge amount of money then we start thinking to be as lucky as them.
This is the hard work for us, to control ourselves from those temptations, once we can do it then we will not be influenced/affected.
The meaning of the proverb above is very appropriate that we cannot avoid something from the influence of the environment from the workplace, even though we have committed never to gamble at work but the influence of other people who are gambling to win will trigger your desire to gamble small betting sessions trying to win like other gamblers, if you can not control the control of the temptation it will worsen your mind to always use the results of work income only to gamble. There are steps to motivate you to avoid gambling that you have to busy yourself to work without paying attention to other people who gamble and you should know every gambler has lost a lot of money in gambling and they never win above the amount of losses that have been lost in gambling.
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This got me thinking and I decided to share it here, is it not possible to work in a casino and not gamble?
Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?
Let me have your thoughts on this.

There is a saying "your environment influences you", it happens in most cases but it does not 100% true because it will always depending on how we control ourselves.
It is possible to not become gambler although we are working on a casino, it depends on what is our main purpose why do we work on the casino.
Lets say our main purpose is to have good income from the job only, just stick/focus on it and keep it on our mind as hard as possible.
No doubt that temptations will come sooner or later especially when we see some people win huge amount of money then we start thinking to be as lucky as them.
This is the hard work for us, to control ourselves from those temptations, once we can do it then we will not be influenced/affected.
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Of course not everyone does the same thing even though they work at a casino, because I think maybe some of them who work there already know the rules that they are only unlikely to win so they don't need to think twice about this they choose not to gamble, besides I think everyone is not happy with gambling maybe some of them work at a casino just to meet their needs so they do nothing more than work.
Although maybe that makes them unable to resist gambling but I'm sure there are people who don't gamble even though they work at a casino, it's just that maybe the number is very small compared to people who gamble. Besides I don't think the casino requires its workers to spend their salaries at the casino where they work, that's ridiculous. Grin
If they know that they can not win from the casino, they will choose not to playing gambling. If they work in a casino because to meet their needs, they should focus with their work and not trying to playing gambling. Even they already see how people lose control in a casino and makes the employee hard to control those who becomes mad and ruins something in that casino. That should makes them not spends their salary just to make more money because that will not easy for them so they better to saves their salary for their needs.
It depends on how those people can hold themselves by not playing gambling in casino and understand the effects that they can get from gambling. So they will not trying to playing gambling when that just give a bad effect to them.
It's like this: we all know the dangers. Casinos are constructed on temptation, so, people find it difficult to resist that kind of influence. Its like a soccer game in which the goal is wide open and the ball is constantly at your feet. You should definitely pass, but occasionally you simply cant help but take that shot.

Those casino workers are right now in the middle of it. Every day they witness the activity, the wins, the defeats, the complete rollercoaster. Its like having a hundred balls flying at once in front of a goalie. You may save 99, but one that passes you by? That is the one you find most vivid in your memory. Yes, conserving your pay is wise as well. These people, though, operate under great strain. A little gamble can occasionally seem like a release, a means of escape from tension. One becomes addicted to the adrenaline.
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Casinos do not require employees to participate in casino games but they always attach promotions and discounts to their employees, which is equivalent to encouraging employees to burn the money they earn from the casino to pay back the casino. Although the staff can avoid these temptations, it is just a normal emotion, as long as people have pressure and sadness, combined with a little alcohol, casino staff will become players when they know how to indulge here. So when working here we need to have a neutral feeling and ignore the external pressures that are aimed at our body.

I’m not sure if this is really true but I’m skeptical if this will be conflict of interest to offer bonuses to employees just to encourage them to gamble while they are working already on their own premises?

If I’m a casino employee I will be bored and scared to play already knowing that house always win while I keep seeing gambling game on daily basis on the casino side. This is new to me and it will be helpful if you can provide reference article that contains this info.

Nevertheless I understand that human greediness will always make us want to gamble at some point even though we are already used to gamble.
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Of course not everyone does the same thing even though they work at a casino, because I think maybe some of them who work there already know the rules that they are only unlikely to win so they don't need to think twice about this they choose not to gamble, besides I think everyone is not happy with gambling maybe some of them work at a casino just to meet their needs so they do nothing more than work.
Although maybe that makes them unable to resist gambling but I'm sure there are people who don't gamble even though they work at a casino, it's just that maybe the number is very small compared to people who gamble. Besides I don't think the casino requires its workers to spend their salaries at the casino where they work, that's ridiculous. Grin
Casinos do not require employees to participate in casino games but they always attach promotions and discounts to their employees, which is equivalent to encouraging employees to burn the money they earn from the casino to pay back the casino. Although the staff can avoid these temptations, it is just a normal emotion, as long as people have pressure and sadness, combined with a little alcohol, casino staff will become players when they know how to indulge here. So when working here we need to have a neutral feeling and ignore the external pressures that are aimed at our body.
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If most of the players in the casino where he works are losing money, the employee is afraid of losing money and does not play. If many players around him are making money, he may want to play so that he can also earn money.
I think gambling is a disease. If an employee has never gambled before, he can stop gambling, but if he has gambled before, he cannot stop gambling.
Well, thats right anyway, it is often said in my place that when a road is good, then many people will want to pass through that road, and the popular one I believe many of us are very familiar with is "one good turn deserves another".

Many of us can attest and agree to the fact that we become interested in gambling after seeing how much someone close to us won, like myself, I never used to like gambling for some personal reasons, but after I meet a guy in my work place who was a gambler and also become my friend, seeing how much the dude made from gambling one time gave me chills, and by the next day, I was the one who asked him to teach me how to gamble because I wanted to make such type of money too.

So, when one stays around those who gamble and do well in it, they chances of them gambling as well is very high,.
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