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Quote from: crwth on August 25, 2024, 12:14:57 PM

I have a relative who works at the casino, and she told me that employees Are not allowed to gamble in their respective casinos, but with other casinos, it would be okay. It could have been about knowing secrets about the casino itself, or they just don’t want to encourage it. I am just not sure, though.

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This is normal rule in casinos since for sure that they don't want to deal with their people since it will create a controversy especially if they win huge amount. We can't deny that there are people will create any bad stories against the casino and will say that only their employee is winning in that places that's why maybe this one contribute to the factor on why casino didn't allow their workers to gamble in their casino.

Also rules maybe different to other casino but usually that is what I see on the casino I go. But also I don't think the worker might also like to gamble anymore since they are dealing with gambling activities whole day and for sure they want separation of their job to their private life so provably that majority of casino workers will just take a rest and prepare their selves to work on next day.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on August 10, 2024, 12:03:46 PM

This got me thinking and I decided to share it here, is it not possible to work in a casino and not gamble?
Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?
Let me have your thoughts on this.

I am actually more curious about the rules of casino employees allowed to gamble or not in the casino where he works, unfortunately did not find an answer regarding this rule.
It is indeed difficult to just work in a casino without becoming a gambler, whether an active gambler who does spend quite a lot of gambling or just a seasonal gambler, because gambling is a very tempting activity, especially since he will see people who win every day even though there are more losers.
There is no other way to survive in that job by controlling yourself because without self-control all the money will be spent just for gambling no matter how big the salary or tips are if you continue to follow the desire to gamble then all the money will be used up and maybe even go into debt, if you still can't control yourself then looking for another job is highly recommended before finally falling into an addiction that can endanger yourself.

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I don’t think I have observed something similar as this since I don’t visit the casino shop. At some extend it might be tempting seeing people play and win mostly when a person win on regular basis, secondly I think anyone working there should know the necessary things associated with gambling and odds so in essence they’re gamblers from start but the only thing affecting them they get to gamble regular with their money. Self control and discipline can actually help any person in this situation.

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If most of the players in the casino where he works are losing money, the employee is afraid of losing money and does not play. If many players around him are making money, he may want to play so that he can also earn money.
I think gambling is a disease. If an employee has never gambled before, he can stop gambling, but if he has gambled before, he cannot stop gambling.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 08, 2024, 02:07:52 AM

Of course not everyone does the same thing even though they work at a casino, because I think maybe some of them who work there already know the rules that they are only unlikely to win so they don't need to think twice about this they choose not to gamble, besides I think everyone is not happy with gambling maybe some of them work at a casino just to meet their needs so they do nothing more than work.
Although maybe that makes them unable to resist gambling but I'm sure there are people who don't gamble even though they work at a casino, it's just that maybe the number is very small compared to people who gamble. Besides I don't think the casino requires its workers to spend their salaries at the casino where they work, that's ridiculous. Grin

If they know that they can not win from the casino, they will choose not to playing gambling. If they work in a casino because to meet their needs, they should focus with their work and not trying to playing gambling. Even they already see how people lose control in a casino and makes the employee hard to control those who becomes mad and ruins something in that casino. That should makes them not spends their salary just to make more money because that will not easy for them so they better to saves their salary for their needs.
It depends on how those people can hold themselves by not playing gambling in casino and understand the effects that they can get from gambling. So they will not trying to playing gambling when that just give a bad effect to them.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on August 10, 2024, 12:03:46 PM

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This got me thinking and I decided to share it here, is it not possible to work in a casino and not gamble?

Yes, gambling is your choice whether you work there or not. I've seen a friend who runs a gambling shop as a manager but avoided gambling most time. He had full control over the activity and wagered a very small amount if he wanted to gamble. Is that not a human being too? It's all about how we can show restraint no matter how it comes calling. We should think about our lives and welfare first and that of those who are close to us. That money is too little to waste like that.

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Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?

There is no big deal to discuss here other than for the gambler to face the reality of gambling, it's not where to get the riches they desire. It's either he continues and becomes miserable or he avoids gambling and takes his salary home for survival. If at all he must gamble, a very low amount is enough for it, it's greed and desperation that push most people into uncontrollable gambling and I blame them.

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Of course not everyone does the same thing even though they work at a casino, because I think maybe some of them who work there already know the rules that they are only unlikely to win so they don't need to think twice about this they choose not to gamble, besides I think everyone is not happy with gambling maybe some of them work at a casino just to meet their needs so they do nothing more than work.
Although maybe that makes them unable to resist gambling but I'm sure there are people who don't gamble even though they work at a casino, it's just that maybe the number is very small compared to people who gamble. Besides I don't think the casino requires its workers to spend their salaries at the casino where they work, that's ridiculous. Grin

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Quote from: khiholangkang on August 10, 2024, 12:10:22 PM

It is very difficult for someone who works in a casino but doesn't gamble, because he has to be familiar with gambling, and must know about other technical issues in gambling.

But the important thing in this case is the use of money, it depends on his own principles, and how he controls his money, if he budgets a small amount of money to do gambling I think he can still save, and he sticks to his gambling budget, environmental interventions can be overcome, such as the obligation to share tips and so on, things like this go back to personal management in determining attitudes.

The Terms and conditions for gamblers when trying to use online casinos don't end with gamblers, casino workers also have their rules and conditions too, they have rules that can't be broken and that's a distraction on duty, while you are to keep monitoring gamblers you shouldn't be focusing on gambling, this will end up getting you fired.

I had a similar experience before, someone I knew worked in a local betting house and he decided to place a bet on a match and he won very big, after cashing out he ended up losing his job, we all knew it was because he is a staff of the gambling company, they don't like that he joined the public and gamble, because the company is responsible for paying his salary every month.

This was a very long time ago, I am guessing the owner of the gambling business just hated the fact that his workers were also making money out of them, some called it hatred, and some called it jealousy.

You would really get fired on the time that you cant be able to do your job well. As an owner then you will really be thinking about it and thats why you would really be setting out those rules that they cant play
into the vicinity and since work and leisure time doesnt coincide then it will really be that understandable into this aspect. It will really be that basing up all about the agreement and terms between you as an employee and towards the employer. There would really be those agreements that wont really be need to be broken.

About spending about their salary then it wont really be that a concern for him/her since those workers will really be having that full rights on what they should gonna do into their funds.
If they would really be doing gambling then its their choice.

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Quote from: khiholangkang on August 10, 2024, 12:10:22 PM

It is very difficult for someone who works in a casino but doesn't gamble, because he has to be familiar with gambling, and must know about other technical issues in gambling.

But the important thing in this case is the use of money, it depends on his own principles, and how he controls his money, if he budgets a small amount of money to do gambling I think he can still save, and he sticks to his gambling budget, environmental interventions can be overcome, such as the obligation to share tips and so on, things like this go back to personal management in determining attitudes.

The Terms and conditions for gamblers when trying to use online casinos don't end with gamblers, casino workers also have their rules and conditions too, they have rules that can't be broken and that's a distraction on duty, while you are to keep monitoring gamblers you shouldn't be focusing on gambling, this will end up getting you fired.

I had a similar experience before, someone I knew worked in a local betting house and he decided to place a bet on a match and he won very big, after cashing out he ended up losing his job, we all knew it was because he is a staff of the gambling company, they don't like that he joined the public and gamble, because the company is responsible for paying his salary every month.

This was a very long time ago, I am guessing the owner of the gambling business just hated the fact that his workers were also making money out of them, some called it hatred, and some called it jealousy.

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Quote from: crwth on August 25, 2024, 12:14:57 PM

I have a relative who works at the casino, and she told me that employees Are not allowed to gamble in their respective casinos, but with other casinos, it would be okay. It could have been about knowing secrets about the casino itself, or they just don’t want to encourage it. I am just not sure, though.

Rules and policies will determine if it is possible or not.

If it turns out that they arent allowed to play then their owners are really that might just that minding about their workers possible gambling addiction or simply they do know if any secrets that lies behind their casinos on where they are working into. In about personal perspective then it would be that likely for a casino employee to have that high chance that they might be that become a gambler basing up on the
nature of their work then it will be that impossible that there's no time that comes up into your mind onto gamble. If its prohibited into the workplace then you would be finding out into other place too.
Actually this is really just that on personal choice because there are really things that despite on having that getting involvement or having work but there are ones who do able to avoid it out.

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I have a relative who works at the casino, and she told me that employees Are not allowed to gamble in their respective casinos, but with other casinos, it would be okay. It could have been about knowing secrets about the casino itself, or they just don’t want to encourage it. I am just not sure, though.

Rules and policies will determine if it is possible or not.

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Quote from: pusaka on August 24, 2024, 12:56:06 PM

Quote from: AbuBhakar on August 24, 2024, 12:38:59 PM

It depends on person nature and attitude. There’s a lot of workers in the casino especially dealers don’t gamble since they preferred spending their day off outside the casino instead of gambling too since that’s already their working environment that they are used to on daily basis.

Also most of the casino workers has an extreme work shift that makes them have less rest and more work. I’m not sure what’s your friend work in the casino for him to not getting enough of gambling but I personally don’t want to gamble anymore if I work on it in daily basis.

Those who work in casinos should already know how casinos work, so that their interest in gambling will also decrease. If they can see people who can win big, then they should also be able to see many people who lose big, because I'm sure there will be more people who lose than people who win.
So you're right it will depend on them, whether they will be able to learn from what others have experienced or they will be part of the experience. I think they will also gamble once in a while, but if they get addicted and things like that, I don't think they can take advantage of what they can see from many people when working in a casino, because that should be a lesson to suppress so as to avoid gambling addiction.

Well that's the point, and I think it should be the knowledge that people who work in casinos, especially those in charge of managing the system, at least I think they must also know about the amount of profit that the casino gets and also maybe how to make gamblers always lose, and as you said that should be a knowledge that can reduce their interest in gambling.

Basically if we look at it briefly then yes as many people often say that working in a casino will most likely make you a very active gambler in the sense of addiction because of the inherent gambling atmosphere, but actually when we respond to it using another way of thinking then we will find other facts where the conclusion is as we discussed here that knowledge about casinos that will always excel should reduce our interest in being excessively involved in gambling.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on August 10, 2024, 12:03:46 PM

This got me thinking and I decided to share it here, is it not possible to work in a casino and not gamble?
Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?
Let me have your thoughts on this.

Well I know a few people that don’t gamble despite them being an agent for a gambling site. I won’t call the person my friend but we normally exchange greetings each time we come across each other and I am close to one of his friends and from a discussion we had he tend not to gamble because he has seen what gambling has done to so many of the people that comes to his shop to place a bet and how they would stay all through the day and gamble till their last money is exhausted.

He said the only thing he has done that he’d consider gambling is to use his money to help a customer place a bet (the one that has his win rate based on his observation) and then if it comes out well he’ll get a percentage from it but if it goes the other way he’ll get a refund from the person. That’s only when he bets not because he sat down to carry out an analysis and then bet on the game.

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Quote from: Huppercase on August 23, 2024, 01:45:15 PM

There is this local saying that if you sell a particular food, there will come a time that it wouldn't freak you again but then again, this is money we are taking about. I think a casino knows and understand how risky gambling can be for people, they wouldn't allow their staffs to gamble while on work, their major duties are to attend to customers and make sure that everything goes well for them and if anyone found breaking the rule will be sack or suspended.

If I am employed to work in a casinos, I will make sure I don't used my money to bet, such thing go well and at the same time back fire. However, if get tipped sometimes by customers, I might want to do put some on games and see that is if the casino company is allow the staff to bet and they pay minimum wage for their staff. I learnt that some places doesn't pay upto minimum wage that's why tips are allow, so I will do that in rare occasions.

What do you mean by it wouldn't freaked us again? But from the word freak, it is we will get surprised or get shocked, up to the point that we will avoid it, which I find very weird as a connection to the first sentence that you gave out. Basically if we are selling a food, we will also taste test it and then we will also ate that food. It is inevitable. The same goes for other types of business or work, I mean as long as we are exposed to them, we will definitely consume them.

Maybe there are only some exceptions if we are talking about hazardous stuffs because they are of course deadly once ingested in our body. Not just on a casino but on any working environment, we are also not allowed to play during our working hours, unless only if our managers or bosses say so. Even if we are not working in a casino, we are still trying our best to not use our hard-earned money on the casino games because we already know how devastating they are even if our only intention for a while is to unwind. If we got a tip from our customers, it shouldn't changed our decisions. We must only be thankful, happy & contented, and just use the money on more important things instead.

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Quote from: Renampun on August 24, 2024, 10:20:31 AM

it is hard to resist gambling when you work in a physical casino, especially if you often find many players who win jackpots there, then your desire to play is even greater.

a friend of mine works in an online casino but now he is addicted to online gambling, at first he just tried it because he often saw players who won big, when he tried to play, unfortunately now he is addicted, it is difficult to stop him, the best way is probably to get out of that environment.

It depends on person nature and attitude. There’s a lot of workers in the casino especially dealers don’t gamble since they preferred spending their day off outside the casino instead of gambling too since that’s already their working environment that they are used to on daily basis.

Also most of the casino workers has an extreme work shift that makes them have less rest and more work. I’m not sure what’s your friend work in the casino for him to not getting enough of gambling but I personally don’t want to gamble anymore if I work on it in daily basis.

Those who work in casinos should already know how casinos work, so that their interest in gambling will also decrease. If they can see people who can win big, then they should also be able to see many people who lose big, because I'm sure there will be more people who lose than people who win.
So you're right it will depend on them, whether they will be able to learn from what others have experienced or they will be part of the experience. I think they will also gamble once in a while, but if they get addicted and things like that, I don't think they can take advantage of what they can see from many people when working in a casino, because that should be a lesson to suppress so as to avoid gambling addiction.

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I’ve met people that work in casinos and don’t gamble. I’m sure it’s fairly common. Some people just need work and will work wherever they can find it. I also think watching people lose their money day after day is probably a good way to keep someone from gambling. I know if I went to a place to earn money, I wouldn’t also risk losing it all there.

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First of all, I want to answer that yes, it’s possible to work in a casino or a betting shop and not gamble and I’m not saying this out of assumptions as in now a girl that works in a betting shop for over two years now and still don’t gamble and everything is dependent of the worker and his principles.

Everyone wants more money especially when it seems they’re free money and money won and gambling offers that exact scenario but regardless, as a gambler, we should always learn how to gamble within our limits and not gamble what we can’t afford to lose.

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Quote from: Renampun on August 24, 2024, 10:20:31 AM

it is hard to resist gambling when you work in a physical casino, especially if you often find many players who win jackpots there, then your desire to play is even greater.

a friend of mine works in an online casino but now he is addicted to online gambling, at first he just tried it because he often saw players who won big, when he tried to play, unfortunately now he is addicted, it is difficult to stop him, the best way is probably to get out of that environment.

It depends on person nature and attitude. There’s a lot of workers in the casino especially dealers don’t gamble since they preferred spending their day off outside the casino instead of gambling too since that’s already their working environment that they are used to on daily basis.

Also most of the casino workers has an extreme work shift that makes them have less rest and more work. I’m not sure what’s your friend work in the casino for him to not getting enough of gambling but I personally don’t want to gamble anymore if I work on it in daily basis.

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I think it's not just about control but more about how someone can understand it and also maintain awareness of the dangers of the risks that lurk, because that way I believe that it is unlikely for them to lose control or get caught up and carried away by the situation.

Yes, I grabbed a whole lot of sense from what you just said, and it's true what this individual may be lacking is self-control, because for the fact that the person O.P is referring to became addicted to gambling due to the fact that he was working in a casino, is a clear sign that that's the same way he would have continued gambling if he wasn't working in a casino. Because thou the environment a person finds himself may have influenced on a man, so for me, I think this guy was already into gambling before they got a casino good.

some time we may not understand better and try to throw blames at people for their habits and think its because they dont have self control only for us to later see that even us if in same shoes may sometimes not do any better rather we may suffer same fate, self control and discipline are two attributes that are not easy to posses at most point especially when we have to put in conscious efforts to get such done.

Yes, it's true that sometimes in life when we are thrown with tough challenges, our attitude is likely to change towards many things, of which trying a luck in gambling as a worker there is not an exception, but when such attitude turns to a habit, that's the area I'm trying to make emphasis here, because gambling sometimes is not bad, but when a casino worker gamblers to the point where he/she loses control over his spending, that's the point I'm driving to, as been an unhealthy practice.

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some gamblers are actually disciplined but may have a driving force which arose from certain stuffs and they will start to behave in patterns that feels like they are not disciplined enough or lacks self control. gambling some times with certain needs in mind could be the problem some of these gamblers have got basically.

Yes, you made a good point in what you just said above, but one thing certain is that addiction do start from one day, and as a worker in a physical gambling environment, it is one unhealthy practice to be tolerated, which is still the main reason I'm trying to point out here.

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Quote from: Renampun on August 24, 2024, 10:20:31 AM

it is hard to resist gambling when you work in a physical casino, especially if you often find many players who win jackpots there, then your desire to play is even greater.

a friend of mine works in an online casino but now he is addicted to online gambling, at first he just tried it because he often saw players who won big, when he tried to play, unfortunately now he is addicted, it is difficult to stop him, the best way is probably to get out of that environment.

Well, it's most likely like that, my friend, the atmosphere or environment can really affect someone, even though previously you really didn't like it, for example, but in the end there is a big possibility for you to love the activity when you have a lot of time in that environment, for example because you are a worker at a casino, at least and no matter how small there will always be an influence from the environment where you are, especially the object of victory in gambling is money, and as you said that there is a big possibility for them to try it when they see customers succeed in winning big.

If what you said is true regarding your friend who is now an addicted gambler after he worked at an online casino, then yes, that means it is true that the atmosphere or environment has a big influence on a person's change, and I think if your friend wants to recover from addiction, the only way is that he must first leave the job.

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