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Quote from: Troytech on August 12, 2024, 08:23:03 AM

I rarely or have never seen people who work in a casino and dont gamble. They are the ones who eventually become so addicted to gambling after some weeks of working there. The sad truth is that they can resist gambling because they always see people gambling, winning and losing every day they are in the casino and sometimes they are friends to these people. If they do not want to gamble today, a friend or someone in the casino might pressure and persuade them to gamble on the same picks assuring them that it is a good pick.

You are basically right and I agree with you, I could compare this with some of us on this forum who promote gambling casinos through our signature ad spaces, most of the time, it's really hard to be wearing a casino's signature without gambling once in a while, specially when the campaign requirement states or added that posting in the gambling board is a mandatory task or requirement, you discover that it's really impossible to effectively and meaningfully contribute to the discussions on the gambling board when you have not tried gambling yourself, so, to achieve that, one have to get involved in gambling even it's with small amount and once In a while.

So for sure, it's hard, or should I say Impossible to find someone who is working on a casino who does not gamble, as much as I believe it's actually possible (for those who are well determined), but it's completely rare to see.

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Quote from: vs2014 on August 11, 2024, 12:38:52 PM

A person who works in a casino never gets addicted to gambling because they earn a lot of money. Most of his money is in savings and he knows that gambling has the potential to lose. But he must be familiar with gambling and know about other technical problems of gambling. However in some cases it happens that some people are addicted to gambling because of which they gamble even though they work in casinos. They don't need to gamble with the money they earn.

casino workers who become gamblers. Indeed, not all of those who work in casinos will gamble, but I am sure more casino workers still allocate some of their money to gambling.
they will be quite familiar with gambling, and it will not be difficult to understand how to play and profit from gambling. when you are more often in one place with certain habits and routines, I think it is impossible for you not to follow the habits around you. even though a little, you will join in.

This is in accordance with the theory that the environment will change your mindset and actions, basically it is very difficult for someone who is in a gambling environment not to gamble, various kinds of invitations must be there, as well as he works in the casino must understand the technicalities and games in the casino, it is common I have noticed from many gamblers who work in casinos.

Except if someone has good self-control despite working in a casino, but people like that are very rare.

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I rarely or have never seen people who work in a casino and dont gamble. They are the ones who eventually become so addicted to gambling after some weeks of working there. The sad truth is that they can resist gambling because they always see people gambling, winning and losing every day they are in the casino and sometimes they are friends to these people. If they do not want to gamble today, a friend or someone in the casino might pressure and persuade them to gamble on the same picks assuring them that it is a good pick.

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Quote from: vs2014 on August 11, 2024, 12:38:52 PM

A person who works in a casino never gets addicted to gambling because they earn a lot of money. Most of his money is in savings and he knows that gambling has the potential to lose. But he must be familiar with gambling and know about other technical problems of gambling. However in some cases it happens that some people are addicted to gambling because of which they gamble even though they work in casinos. They don't need to gamble with the money they earn.

I think not everyone can hold back their curiosity even though they know about the algorithm applied by the casino to every game provided, and maybe not all workers there know that overall the games provided are only to benefit the casino where they work. There are two possibilities that can happen to someone who works in a casino, first they fall into gambling or become someone who is active in gambling because they are unable to resist the temptation of the atmosphere in the casino especially when they see some visitors who have won big, and the second possibility is that they will not touch gambling at all even though they work in a casino, which is because they already know that the system in the game is designed only to benefit the casino itself which makes the idea of making money in gambling impossible, but if the intention and goal are only to seek entertainment then maybe that's okay.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on August 10, 2024, 12:03:46 PM

This got me thinking and I decided to share it here, is it not possible to work in a casino and not gamble?
Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?
Let me have your thoughts on this.

The only thing that can make you work in a physical casino and not gamble is if you are restricted by the shop's terms and policy not to gamble and also if you don't work there for a very long time.

I have had a few friends that worked in a land base casino and when I asked them same question, exactly what u said above is what they respond to me. In land base casino, there are games you might see as to be simple but the moment you are playing and winning, your attention can be carried away and you will still lose every profit you made.

I believe that it's very possible that one can work in a casino and not become an addicted gambler but it's not possible to work there and not stake on a game or make a single bet.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on August 10, 2024, 12:03:46 PM

he agreed to try it out from today and I'm yet to hear of his success as at now.

Update, I saw him yesterday and he showed me some evidence of funds deposited to his account on Saturday evening, he claimed he saved 1/2 of his tips as against 4/5 that were agreed(I can't tell because I don't know the actual total). But the good thing and what impressed me was his determination to get better and giving the strategy a try. He thanked me very much and I bought him a bottle of chilled beer to celebrate his little success. I hope he continues and doesn't relent.

Thank you all for your suggestions, I showed him some comments from this thread so he'll see for himself that he started off his employee's activities on the wrong foot.
He still argued that if he doesn't gamble, he wouldn't be able to entertain his clients well and give them meaningful suggestions from his experience that brings about some of his tips.

Good thing is that he's starting to take things easy, I didn't ask him to stop gambling entirely because I know from experience he'll not agree easily, he's changing and that's more important.

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That person who becomes a gambling addict simply because of his work environment already has a problem controlling his greed for money. He is being paid some wages or salary, while subject himself again to excessive gambling? Ofcourse he has seen lots of people walk into the casino cashless and walk out of the casino with lots of money, hence the need to try his luck too even though he has no experience on the right strategy to use.There is no guarantee that he would stop gambling if he resigns from his job because the greed is still there.

The best advice is for him to stop paying attention to customers' wins and discipline himself to stop gambling completely for a while and if he won't stop gambling, he can then change his environment.

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Quote from: vs2014 on August 11, 2024, 12:38:52 PM

A person who works in a casino never gets addicted to gambling because they earn a lot of money. Most of his money is in savings and he knows that gambling has the potential to lose. But he must be familiar with gambling and know about other technical problems of gambling. However in some cases it happens that some people are addicted to gambling because of which they gamble even though they work in casinos. They don't need to gamble with the money they earn.

The sentence you say is not consistent about your opinion, first says that people who work in casinos are not possible to be addicted to gambling, while you also say that there are some people who are addicted to gambling even though he works in the casino, so which is right to express your opinion?

For me personally, the possibility for someone who works in the casino is experiencing very small addiction, but it is not impossible that there are also some people who work in casinos can be impulsive in gambling activities that cause addiction.

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Very possible. If you are there just to work and bring food to your table, you'd definitely not going to have that itch to gamble. But if you're a gambler in nature and you think that you can't avoid that temptation then you may try to find a new job that won't tempt you to gamble. Because the main goal is to work there, save and provide to the family. If you can't do that flawlessly and you are being tempted to gamble a portion of your salary, there is a possibility that your whole salary might be at stake.

It's not about your emotions when you can see your job everyday that's related to gambling and you have the emotion and that can trigger yourself to gamble. It's best to avoid that kind of temptation to protect your well being and as well as to focus your goal by being a provider. Although if you are too focused enough to work even if you're in the premises of a casino, it's very possible.

I've seen workers that are hardworking and doesn't think about gambling but their work nature is in gambling.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on August 10, 2024, 12:03:46 PM

I was discussing with my friend that works in a physical casino yesterday evening. He lamented that his work environment has exposed him to gambling excessively that he hardly saves enough, if at all at the end of the month although he sees good funds from the tips he receives regularly from his clients that clinches wins. He also receives a manageable salary at month-end, but almost everything goes back into gambling.

He stressed that working in a casino exposes you to irresistible desires to gamble and you can do little about it.

I told him that it's possible to save part of the money and gamble with the rest and this was my strategy.
I asked him not to gamble until it's 6pm in the evening and by then he should divide his daily tips into five places, then go straight to a money collection point tho deposit 4/5 of the funds, then come back to gamble with the rest, he agreed to try it out from today and I'm yet to hear of his success as at now. We also agreed that he'll open a fixed deposit account where his salary goes in and remain untouched until every 6 months as his main savings since his tips are enough for his daily expenses

This got me thinking and I decided to share it here, is it not possible to work in a casino and not gamble?
Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?
Let me have your thoughts on this.

At least to me this sounds like an excuse, while it is true that being in an environment in which gambling is commonplace may cause a person to think more about the possibility of gambling some of their money away, the reality is that as long as you are disciplined you should be able to resist the temptation without too much of a problem, so your friend needs to accept that this is on him, and if he wants to save any money then he needs to just endure the temptation and refuse to gamble no matter what.

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Quote from: vs2014 on August 11, 2024, 12:38:52 PM

A person who works in a casino never gets addicted to gambling because they earn a lot of money. Most of his money is in savings and he knows that gambling has the potential to lose. But he must be familiar with gambling and know about other technical problems of gambling. However in some cases it happens that some people are addicted to gambling because of which they gamble even though they work in casinos. They don't need to gamble with the money they earn.

casino workers who become gamblers. Indeed, not all of those who work in casinos will gamble, but I am sure more casino workers still allocate some of their money to gambling.
they will be quite familiar with gambling, and it will not be difficult to understand how to play and profit from gambling. when you are more often in one place with certain habits and routines, I think it is impossible for you not to follow the habits around you. even though a little, you will join in.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on August 10, 2024, 12:03:46 PM

I was discussing with my friend that works in a physical casino yesterday evening. He lamented that his work environment has exposed him to gambling excessively that he hardly saves enough, if at all at the end of the month although he sees good funds from the tips he receives regularly from his clients that clinches wins. He also receives a manageable salary at month-end, but almost everything goes back into gambling.

He stressed that working in a casino exposes you to irresistible desires to gamble and you can do little about it.

I told him that it's possible to save part of the money and gamble with the rest and this was my strategy.
I asked him not to gamble until it's 6pm in the evening and by then he should divide his daily tips into five places, then go straight to a money collection point tho deposit 4/5 of the funds, then come back to gamble with the rest, he agreed to try it out from today and I'm yet to hear of his success as at now. We also agreed that he'll open a fixed deposit account where his salary goes in and remain untouched until every 6 months as his main savings since his tips are enough for his daily expenses

This got me thinking and I decided to share it here, is it not possible to work in a casino and not gamble?
Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?
Let me have your thoughts on this.

The only way that I can see someone working at a casino and not gambling at least ONCE they would have to be one of three things. Either deaf blind or mute! That would surely keep them from or at least make it very difficult, or if they had some sort of special needs employed by the casino maybe I am wrong but I would assume they would be less inclined to gamble maybe not, is not uncommon in some states to have special needs employed on simple jobs etc.

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A person who works in a casino never gets addicted to gambling because they earn a lot of money. Most of his money is in savings and he knows that gambling has the potential to lose. But he must be familiar with gambling and know about other technical problems of gambling. However in some cases it happens that some people are addicted to gambling because of which they gamble even though they work in casinos. They don't need to gamble with the money they earn.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on August 10, 2024, 12:03:46 PM

This got me thinking and I decided to share it here, is it not possible to work in a casino and not gamble?
Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?
Let me have your thoughts on this.

to reduce the chances of workers getting too addicted in gambling, I believe it will be better for those working for a casino not to gamble at all. If they gamble, chances are that they might end up spending most of thier salaries on gambling. It's just like telling an alcoholic to work in an environment where alcohol is being sold and he has access to consum as much as he can, do you know what will become of it? While it's possible to be disciplined even while working in such environment, chances of being disciplined for the long run is very slime and it might take one out of 10 person's that gamble while working in a casino shop from not getting addicted. If you have to work and still have plans to gamble, it's best to make adequate plans that will safeguard your earnings. It could be as strict as depositing an amount that's small from your salary that will be used for gambling. Alternatively, I don't know if this works also for casino shops but for sports betting shops, after a certain gambler wins his bet, they usually show the cashier some love by giving him small money from what they've won and that way you can get side money apart from your monthly salary. You can decide that you're going to use only that money for your gambling and that you will never touch the money you're receiving as a salary.

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I never working at the casinos before so i don't know about this situation just like this but i have been read an article some time ago but i forgot what is the title of that article because actually casino owners are prohibit their employees from gambling in the casino where the employees work and around the casinos where they work because the owners doesn't want their employees to spend their free time to gambling because they may be more likely to develop gambling addiction than people who work outside the gambling world

Indeed all of it depend on the person because they can decide only go for working at the casino without thinking to gambling but i have to says workers exposed to gambling activities during their works for each days and this makes them very tempted to gamble especially when the employees watching there is people who gets huge winning from jackpot so probably they inspired to those person and starting to gamble

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on August 10, 2024, 12:03:46 PM

This got me thinking and I decided to share it here, is it not possible to work in a casino and not gamble?
Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?
Let me have your thoughts on this.

Someone can work in a casino and still not gamble just as there are some people working for casino campaign but have not gambled before. There is nothing bad in that because every individual is different from one another. There could be reason why the user have to settle for a casino job because maybe he has tried to find other jobs but he is not getting lucky but the casino jobs was available and they hired him therefore he is going to do the job while he look for other job if he does not like working with casino. But it is going to be very hard to resist the urge to gamble when you see others doing and probably winning life changing money that you also need and think that you can win. The behaviour that you can do is to concentrate on your casino job and stop looking at people gambling.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on August 10, 2024, 04:09:48 PM

Depositing his monthly earnings is quite a good move not to spend his regular income. Now, as mentioned, he can already survive with the tips alone. In this case, he can very well spend those tips to his gambling as well as his daily expenses. At least, he can say, he has savings because of his monthly income and it won't be wrecked by his gambling activities.

That's another possibility for him too, but do you think it is a solution without any risks? Especially with addiction behavior it is very hard for someone to resist not spending much money once he begins playing, the worse thing about addiction is not knowing when to stop, losing or winning that won't make a difference for him.
It is the same with alcoholism, where that person should avoid even a sip of alcohol, so I believe it is the same thing with an addicted gambler.

If that person is not addicted and doesn't spend much money in gambling even that he works in a casino, then it is totally find to spend a small portion of his total income. Personally, I would use only 5% maximum for gambling, other than that it is a risk of becoming an excessive gambler, feeling bad if I lose more than that, later you will always try to recover your losses, finally you will unlock the addiction.

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Yes I understand that it is quite difficult to be completely unaffected by the atmosphere and situation in the casino, I am sure that when you see some people who have managed to get a big jackpot then maybe at least it will be able to move your heart and mind to try it, and I think it's all about choice, you are free to choose to get involved in gambling as long as from the start you must be truly aware of the risks along with preparing various things that lead to risk management such as having the ability to control emotions and have good money management, don't let all your salary only be enough to pay all your gambling debts.

Basically gambling is a choice, and you will only be able to choose something right and structured when you think using common sense when making considerations, and when you find yourself having problems due to being involved in gambling then of course stopping or reducing is the best way to do it. Gambling is nothing more than just for entertainment, and I am sure you know this when you are one of the workers in a casino, so if the habit actually causes problems then it should not be continued, learn to make peace with yourself to be able to let go of everything that has been lost.

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It's quite possible to get involved with gambling with if you are working at a casino.
At the same time, it also depends on how strongly you can hold your emotions to gamble.
As mentioned in OP, the person almost loses everything in gambling itself and this should be avoided at all costs.
Being a casino worker himself he should know how people lose money in gambling and that should keep himself from overgambling.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on August 10, 2024, 12:03:46 PM

Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?
Let me have your thoughts on this.

Back to the principles and goals of our work, many people work in bars and nightclubs, whether they are all entertainers or sex workers, no, many of them have the same principles and goals, as long as they can keep themselves from getting involved in anything negative for me they remain safe and professional with their own finances, whether it be tips or their salary.

As long as your friend can be a professional in working in a physical casino, for me it doesn't matter to him about deposits and he doesn't have to be involved in gambling, as far as I know, physical casino employees are not allowed to be involved in gambling games, that's the casino rules, employees only serve guests as best as possible, both when they bet and also other services such as giving them drinks, food and so on.

If physical casino employees are involved in gambling, it will have a bad impact on the casino, employees are not serious about serving guests, so as far as I know physical casino employees are not allowed to gamble, except: outside working hours and at other casino locations.

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