Topic: Ixcoin TODO - page 30. (Read 631747 times)

Does anyone have any blocks of 100,000 IXCoins or I0Coins to sell?

If so please specify how many such blocks and at what price per block...

-MarkM-

Cinnamon, that's not a valid key anymore.  I deleted my post.  Maybe you can delete that last post or edit my key out of it.  Thx.  

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post updated /modified 3-5-16

Shouting to myself and everyone else.  I rarely mumble.  lol

I don't think RPG's are legal here Mark so I probably won't be able to join; still working on PGPs. 

It almost sounds like you are speaking of creating the bitcointalk 2.0 forum world RPG/MUD.  Vlad would be the crazy guy in the corner mumbling to himself.

I enjoyed markm's post will look into this when time allows

Sounds like coinimi will be fully integrated by end of this month.  That would fantastic!

electrum-ixc confirmed working. managed to recieve the IXC. someone would have to do a windows compile once i upload the source code somewhere. will start on the coinomi work today

It is not a matter of "how much", it is that every time I have implemented this stuff people ended up not bothering to use it.

Usually players join clans, guilds, societies or whatever, basically they organise into groups, and the guild or clan or whatever officers do the financial dealings; plus of course not all clans clubs nations corporations or whatever necessarily want to trade with each other, so often players prefer to be shown who is offering what for sale at what price so they can choose to support their friends and allies, and try to avoid enriching folks they do not like, by being able to pick and choose who they deal with.

Afterall, is it really cheaper to buy cheap from folks who will use the proceeds to build nukes or deathstars to attack you with than to pay higher prices to allies who will use the proceeds to strengthen your alliance-group's defenses?

Stuff that folks aren't using much tends not to be prioritised when choosing what part of the multiverse / metagame to work on next...

And once someone is logged into Crossfire RPG or CoffeeMUD MUD or whatever they maybe actually prefer to just chat with their guild officers to arrange money-changing and such than having to go through a bot aka non-player-character.

Or they find there are other in-game things they'd prefer to see worked on, since usually exchanging currencies is not something that needs to be done often. For example if you are a Brits and trade with the Canucks you can just pay them Britcoins instead of Canadian Digital Notes, leaving it to their respective Ministers of Finance to exchange in bulk if over time trade turns out to be unbalanced.

(Often it is considered simpler to only use a currency as a unit of measure to measure how much wheat I owe you for all that lemonade you shipped to my mine-workers or whatever instead of actually being passed from hand to hand. Like hey I'll buy a bitcoin's worth of wagonloads of orange juice from you if you'll buy a bitcoin's worth of wagonloads of beer from me kind of thing; if trade is balanced the "cost in money" of trade is a wash. If you aren't buying bitcoins worth of my products why would I buy from you if someone who does want my products can offer me the products that I want?)

...Also if/when Open Transactions settles on a final format for its data and contracts and accounts and nyms and such there will be much work done to get everything based onto Open Transactions again so there is also the "if I put off fiddling with it long enough I'll be able to do it using Open Transactions" factor.

Maybe having this chat inside RPG or MUD instead of on this forum might help, since time I am spending here is time I am not spending in MUD or in RPG, and this input interface I am typing this post into does not support the ability for me to be running and testing bots inside this same interface while we chat here...

In MUD or RPG we could be actually chatting with the bot while we chat about it.

Coin RPC calls haven't really changed over the years, nor has the bash shell nor unix commands, so it might be surprising how easy it could be to put the parts back together to get that stuff up and running again.

-MarkM-

Truly amazing Markm.

How much for you to implement this?

With all the problems the merged mined SHA256 coins have had with "exchanges", I wonder if the "moneychanger bots" approaches I was using years ago (when there were hardly any altcoins around) might be worth updating and re-deploying?

Originally I wrote them as IRC-bots, but of course IRC is kind of insecure, so to use them with "real money" on IRC would require re-implementing them based on the "gribble" bot, where any action that needs to be secure requires the user to pgp-sign a security-response issued by the bot.

Their back-ends though were shell-scripts, so that the back end functionality can be used by anything that can issue a system-call to the shell to secute system-commands on the server.

Thus it was relatively simple to modify in-game bots such as bartenders in guildhouses in Crossfire RPG and MUD-characters run by tinyfugue MUD-clients.

Unlike IRC, with Crossfire RPG and with MUDs one can use ssh-type connections; I am not sure offhand whether Crossfire RPG servers and clients have built-in ability to allow ssh-type connections, but CoffeeMUD does and so does the TinyFugue MUD-client, and of course even if the Crossfire-RPG clients and servers do not natively support secure connections one could always set up proxies or pipes using ssh itself, albeit that might not be real popular with grandmothers and the like.

Basically what these bots do is provide a logged-on (in IRC or whatever online game the bot is running in/on) access to accounts on a coin daemon, using the coin daemon's own built-in (and primitive) "accounts" system, and also maintain per-currency accounts for a number of currencies so as to enable moneychanging.

This is different from trading on an exchange because you do not get to place offers.

The bots thus do not need to maintain a database of how much who is offering of what for what.

Instead what they do is use the coin daemon accounts system to keep accounts of how much of each type of coin they bought with which other type of coin so as to in effect "back" each coin with the coins they have bought with it.

For example suppose the bot buys some IXCoin using BiTCoin. The IXC that it bought USING BTC goes into a fund it can then use to buy BTC with IXC.

If it also happens to buy some IXC with NaMeCoin, that IXC goes into a separate account, so that it can then use it to buy NMC.

The IXC it bought with BTC will only be used to buy BTC, the IXC it bought with NMC will only be used to buy NMC and so on for all the coin-pairs.

That way it kind of tries to act like a nation's bank or reserves, backing a coin by using other coins to buy it with; but it does that for all the currencies, so the one bot could be used by all the nations to back their own currencies with reserves of all the other currencies.

The main reason for all this was that among the very first "altcoins" were the national coins of the Brits (United Kingdom Britcoins, UKB), Canucks (Canadian Digital Notes, CDN), Martians (Martian BotCoins, MBC), and United Nations (United Nations Scrip, UNS) and the corporate coins/funds of General Mining Corp (General Mining Corp scrip, GMC) and General Retirement Funds (General Retirement Funds scrip, GRF), and the ubiquitous bitNicKeL, NKL, all of which were at that time early-model blockchain-based currencies that were implemented before GRouPcoin and DeVCoin, using ancient bitcoin code, by modifying the code to have the -testnet flag of the client activate an alternative blockchain instead of the bitcoin testnet. (So that users could use just one client to access bitcoin and their game-nation or game-corporation's national or corporate coin simply by using the -testnet setting.)

Thus the majority of the coins the bots originally supported were national/corporate coins, so that the basic core concept of "backing" a currency with "reserves" was a core concept.

(The game-nations and game-corporations behind UKB, CDN, MBC, UNS, GMC, GRF and NKL were strong proponents of the idea that minting and issuing a coin without standing behind it by being ready willing and able to "buy it back" was essential/important.)

So anyway, the basic idea here is that maybe "exchanges" are not really that good for us, because they keep unlisting us if they do not see "volume" to get fees from, whereas these "moneychangers" do not care about volume as they do not need to track thousands of offers other people are making but instead just need to stand ready to buy back any coins they have sold, using the coins they sold them for, in order to provide "backing" for the coins they support.

Historic and current exchange-rates are shown at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html

(Assume some markup or markdown will be applied of course, selling at higher than listed rate and buying at lower than listed rate. )

-MarkM-

Got a response from CEX:

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Vlad,

We are considering to sell excess of IXC, but need some more time to think over, as there are more priority issues to be solved.

Please, let us know the price at which you'd be ready to buy IXC, and let us keep in touch.

Thank you!

CEX.io

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We'll work on buying back some IXC if we can reach a reasonable price.  Then we'll figure out an optimal plan of action for those coins.

Cheers!

Great, gonna have to blow them out of CryptoWorld!!!

Nice, how long until they integrate into the exchange.  Would be nice to trade this bad-boy.  Thx.

got it

done

someone send some IXC to xjSCfZLCGYFMzvvLQ48JZRcKGW2EdfLgZW please.

Dear f2pool/CEX.io,

If you are interested in selling any of the IXC you are currently collecting in fees in exchange for cash or BTC please let us know; we would like to buy any excess iXcoins you may have.

Regards,

Vlad

no idea on timeline. waiting on a new motherboard/cpu which is held up at UK customs atm. so hopefully week or so till i get it and have my dev box back up

ahmed

Thanks Ahmed, can you give an [accurate] timeline on that?  Full Coinimi integration.  Thx!