Theses two sites hide under the mask of a legit casino and sportsbook and adding so called provable fair games.
While nothing could be the farther from the truth.
These 2 websites are run by the same group and interchangeable .
They use many unethical , criminal and , underhanded scam tactics . I want to show some of these today.
I will start with the so called provable fair games . These are split into two games baccarat and blackjack.
I have played over 100,000 hands of both and have been a long time vip member of this site, not some newbie that has made some small deposit of 1 btc and called scam.
The two games are done under the company onetouch.io , which is a sub part of coin gaming the parent company of bitcasino.io and sportbet.io
They claim these games are fair and there verification site is https://onetouch.io/provablyfair/verification . The same company that says its fair is the company that makes the game.
Now if you click on verify the game it will go to https://onetouch.io/provablyfair/verification plus some cookie script.
They will do a hard cookie that auto verifies the hand. If you take the cookie part of the link and just open it normal it will follow based on your ip and the cookie that was hard coded on your computer when you opened it.
If you independently verify many of the hands they dont verify. They alter the hands and when you have won some.
You win some and then you loose 10 plus hands in a row while this might happen sometimes normally but it follows a pattern over many thousands of hands . If you talked to the support they will say oh you where unlucky and use a standered reply of we a licensed and tested. The company that tests those two games are the same company that directly profits and licence of cuarcao is suspect in many ways.
The other games they use are betsoft which are known scammer games.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-betsoft-scam-and-how-they-have-been-ripping-you-off-1531232
http://www.legitgamblingsites.com/blog/betsoft-scam-alert/
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/betsoft-gaming-ltd/nationwide/betsoft-gaming-ltd-betsoft-gaming-betsoft-buying-casino-software-scam-canada-nationwide-395676
and there is hundreds more.
They run both betsoft table games and slots.
Now lets get into the payouts.
If you happen to win which is very unlikely they will payout sometimes.
There has many complaints recently about this .
But something else that is very unethical and is another way to hold your money is that they require 6 confirmations for a withdrawl.
This is so they can hold your money longer and try to get you to play there highly rigged games.
This is way more then any other casino. Any legit casino requires 1 confirmation and sometimes very large one such as 50btc might be 3.
Now i would like to go into there support.
They have some of the worst live support ever.
They do not want to be helpful if anything they want to hinder you.
They never help they will try to delay and give you standard boiler plate reply's.
Some of the vip support will try to help but there hands are tied by mangement.
They also manipulate the lines of there sportbets live.
They will change quickly and will also offer lines other then normal sportsbook to trick people.
There has been many other personal things that happened but i will stick to how there trying to take from everyone.
I hope this helps some people out there