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Topic: Jake Paul v Hasim Rahman Jr / Amanda Serrano V Brenda Carabaja co-main event Aug - page 6. (Read 1059 times)

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I just don’t think the Fury vs Paul fight is ever going to happen. I think Tommy Fury is looking for every excuse in the book which is odd considering he has literally zero pedigree, you would expect he’d just take the big pay day that comes with the Paul circus & do everything possible to make that fight happen.

I have heard that Hasim Rahman Jr will definitely be Paul’s next opponent though.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/5712382/jake-paul-hasim-rahman-jr-tommy-fury/

Interesting.  I hadn't heard that but I guess we'll find out for sure tomorrow.  He's definitely going to take some heat for choosing the fight someone he spars with.  You might even say this is him giving one of his friends a payday if that's the case.  I don't think this is going to go a long way in convincing the world that Jake Paul is for real, but he's been training so he's got to fight someone.  It seems like the Jake Paul train is running out of steam.  Hard to believe with all the fighters talking smack about him that he has a hard time finding opponents.
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I just don’t think the Fury vs Paul fight is ever going to happen. I think Tommy Fury is looking for every excuse in the book which is odd considering he has literally zero pedigree, you would expect he’d just take the big pay day that comes with the Paul circus & do everything possible to make that fight happen.

I have heard that Hasim Rahman Jr will definitely be Paul’s next opponent though.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/5712382/jake-paul-hasim-rahman-jr-tommy-fury/

if there's a will, there's a way. so this visa prob of tommy fury may have been sorted out already if he is willing to fight jake paul at all cost. don't know if tommy will ever fight jake paul. or maybe, he wants to create more hype and possibly higher payday. we don't exactly know his reasons.
with rahman jr, the odds may now be in favour with jake paul. because with tommy, paul is the underdog, and the bookies are still listing their fight. they will change it soon.
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I just don’t think the Fury vs Paul fight is ever going to happen. I think Tommy Fury is looking for every excuse in the book which is odd considering he has literally zero pedigree, you would expect he’d just take the big pay day that comes with the Paul circus & do everything possible to make that fight happen.

I have heard that Hasim Rahman Jr will definitely be Paul’s next opponent though.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/5712382/jake-paul-hasim-rahman-jr-tommy-fury/
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I can't believe that Tommy Fury backed out of yet another fight with Jake Paul.  This has got to be embarrassing for his family at this point.  Jake is tweeting that he's once again going to take a last minute fight against someone else.  It's starting to seem like this is his strategy to be honest.  I guess we'll find out tomorrow who he's going to be fighting in a couple of weeks.  Hopefully it's another real boxer so we can stop hearing about how Jake is taking on easy fights for his record.  A KO is always nice as well.  Smiley
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You think the bookies are making a mistake in the odds?
 It rarely happen, they know the health and capacity of the fighters before the weighin. I'm sure theybhave the reason for looking Furry have the best chance.

But Pauls are motivated to the fights they are into and with his $1M bet against Tyson, he's gonna give his best to run for the money.
Yep, it should be Paul become the favorite in this match like the previous fight he become favorite.

I'm not sure why many bettors think Tommy Fury is the biggest test for Paul because if we watch previous Tommy Furry's fights, he looks awful and no have many differences with Paul. But as we know Paul is making money in boxing and Fury's record is nothing considered if he get huge paycheck from Paul. But yeah, it's good to see if Paul become an underdog since IMO Paul have bigger chance to win here and I will got juicy odds for betting him.
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I'm surprised Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury have been listed on bookies and Paul become an underdog in this fight with 2.11x odds while Fury become favorited with 1.68x odds. No doubt, I would bet for Jake Paul no matter what, I know how good he's to make a huge money from boxing even he can't box or have poor skills. I will be cautious if Paul will cherry pick non boxer to fight with him and the odds is really heavy favorited on him. He might bet his opponent and lose on purpose to earn huge money on the casino lol.

You think the bookies are making a mistake in the odds?
 It rarely happen, they know the health and capacity of the fighters before the weighin. I'm sure theybhave the reason for looking Furry have the best chance.

But Pauls are motivated to the fights they are into and with his $1M bet against Tyson, he's gonna give his best to run for the money.
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I'm surprised Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury have been listed on bookies and Paul become an underdog in this fight with 2.11x odds while Fury become favorited with 1.68x odds. No doubt, I would bet for Jake Paul no matter what, I know how good he's to make a huge money from boxing even he can't box or have poor skills. I will be cautious if Paul will cherry pick non boxer to fight with him and the odds is really heavy favorited on him. He might bet his opponent and lose on purpose to earn huge money on the casino lol.
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How hard it is to create a VISA to America? I've been there once, but passes procedure half year before, when I was booking vacation, hotels and etc. For a more famous person, maybe with some connections, is it possible to create a VISA in one month? From UFC experience, fighters come to the US one or two weeks before the fight to pass acclimatization process and jet lag.

It's relatively easy. If you're from one of the countries that has a visa waiver program which the UK does you just have to fill out a form a month or so before you go and it's valid for about six months or something. However, working visas I think require an embassy visit.

I can't help, but think this is to build the fight a little more? I wouldn't have thought a professional boxer, and especially on this sort of stage wouldn't be able to get a visa. I know there's been speculation with the Fury family, and who they associate effecting their entry status, but I wasn't aware that extended to Tommy.

I'm not so sure about that. Tommy had a visa and was in the states only a month or so ago. The US just revoked it for reasons that haven't been made public but people are assuming it's because of Tyson connections to Kinehan. Tyson was also denied entry and has had his visa revoked in June.

He should be able to get it sorted out at the embassy according to Jake, though maybe the US are playing hard ball and want cooperation on info on Kinehan from the Furys. Would they have banned Tyson if he had a fight on? I'm not so sure. Hopefully Tommy can get it sorted. Maybe the fight will have to take place in the UK if not but Jake will almost certainly just fight someone else in August instead. I wonder if he has a backup in place?

At first I was hearing that Tommy didn't want to fight, because his dad couldn't enter the US. However, we all knew that. He hasn't been able to enter the US for as long as I can remember. I believe it was related to a eye gouging incident, and therefore a criminal conviction. Now, we're hearing that Tommy is struggling to get one.

It looks like his whole team isn't allowed, including Tyson, so he'd basically be alone over there according to his dad: https://www.insider.com/boxing-champ-tyson-fury-reportedly-banned-from-flying-into-us-2022-6

I can understand Tommy's frustrations if that's true. It would be a huge disadvantage to not have any family members or his regular coaches there. I think Tommy really wants this fight so I doubt he's going to turn it down unless there's something literally stopping him from doing it. And yeah, his dad is banned due to serving serious jail time for blinding someone in a fight. Anyone who's done prison time can't get in. If you have a criminal record you need to get special permission from the US embassy but they deal with them on a case by case basis.

It is somewhat being billed as the first real fight between Jake Paul and an actual boxer.  Being honest, I have no idea what to expect.  Jake has surprised everyone with every fight, so maybe he'll keep that momentum going.
To me, I actually think this is the only fight, and perhaps the Youtube boxing events before it, where Jake probably wouldn't surprise all that many people by winning. Tommy certainly isn't anything special when it comes to boxing, obviously a professional, and therefore somewhat decent, but his career hasn't exactly taken anyone off guard. Especially, considering the calibre of his opponents, and the performances he has put in against them.

That's what makes this fight to appealing to me. It's probably the first big challenge for both of them. Jake can win it for sure and to me both fighters are quite evenly matched, though Tommy has been fighting practically his own life whereas Jake is a relative newcomer. Tommy has only really fought bums and journeymen though and Jake has only fought youtubers and ex-MMA fighters who were on their way out and people have been clamouring for him to prove himself and fight a 'proper' boxer so here it is. Tommy is the perfect step up. He might not be the best boxer but he's still unbeaten and the biggest draw is that Fury name. Anything other than a KO by Fury is going to be an embarrassment for him. If Tommy losses it could even end his career. Nobody is going to take him seriously if he can't even beat a 'youtuber'. His family have practically said they'd disown him if he lost and that's a huge weight to bare. They've both said he should quit if he can't beat Jake and he might have to as that will follow him around his whole life.
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I can't help, but think this is to build the fight a little more? I wouldn't have thought a professional boxer, and especially on this sort of stage wouldn't be able to get a visa. I know there's been speculation with the Fury family, and who they associate effecting their entry status, but I wasn't aware that extended to Tommy.

At first I was hearing that Tommy didn't want to fight, because his dad couldn't enter the US. However, we all knew that. He hasn't been able to enter the US for as long as I can remember. I believe it was related to a eye gouging incident, and therefore a criminal conviction. Now, we're hearing that Tommy is struggling to get one.

I just feel it's a marketing scheme rather than any truth behind it.

It is somewhat being billed as the first real fight between Jake Paul and an actual boxer.  Being honest, I have no idea what to expect.  Jake has surprised everyone with every fight, so maybe he'll keep that momentum going.
To me, I actually think this is the only fight, and perhaps the Youtube boxing events before it, where Jake probably wouldn't surprise all that many people by winning. Tommy certainly isn't anything special when it comes to boxing, obviously a professional, and therefore somewhat decent, but his career hasn't exactly taken anyone off guard. Especially, considering the calibre of his opponents, and the performances he has put in against them.
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How hard it is to create a VISA to America? I've been there once, but passes procedure half year before, when I was booking vacation, hotels and etc. For a more famous person, maybe with some connections, is it possible to create a VISA in one month? From UFC experience, fighters come to the US one or two weeks before the fight to pass acclimatization process and jet lag.
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Jake might have to find a new opponent though as I can't see him making the fight in the UK given he's already booked Madison Square Gardens.

Tyron Woodley is always open for an offer and fake tattoo Cheesy

Either they try to hype with news, or did not come to an agreement about payment. Otherwise if they really wanted to fight each other, they would have done it long time ago. I think this visa issues is artificial and main problem is $$$.

Have you heard that his brother, Logan Paul was complaining, that he wasnt paid fully for his fight against Mayweather? Could this be a soil for a second fight? Unfinished business Cheesy

It's not about money it's just visa issues. Jake said all Tommy has to do is go the American embassy in the UK and he should be able to sort it. He should be able to make a case that he's only connected to this by name. Barring him from the States over his brothers connections seems very harsh.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfZWZqYFsq1/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Neither Jake or Logan are going to fight Mayweather is he hasn't paid Logan for the first fight.
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Jake might have to find a new opponent though as I can't see him making the fight in the UK given he's already booked Madison Square Gardens.

Tyron Woodley is always open for an offer and fake tattoo Cheesy

Either they try to hype with news, or did not come to an agreement about payment. Otherwise if they really wanted to fight each other, they would have done it long time ago. I think this visa issues is artificial and main problem is $$$.

Have you heard that his brother, Logan Paul was complaining, that he wasnt paid fully for his fight against Mayweather? Could this be a soil for a second fight? Unfinished business Cheesy
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Interesting breaking news ..
“Tommy Fury's fight with Jake Paul could go up in smoke ... after TNT claims he was denied entry into the United States ahead of their scheduled press conference in New York.

Just when it seemed like the bout was FINALLY going to happen, Tommy shared the crappy news on his Instagram on Tuesday ... saying his team showed up at Heathrow Airport to hop over the pond ... but they were shut down.

"As soon as I entered the airport, I was pulled to one side and told by a Homeland Security officer that my ESTA had been denied and that I wasn't able to travel to the USA for a reason I apparently know," Tommy said in a video. “ - https://www.tmz.com/2022/06/28/tommy-fury-denied-entry-into-united-states-fight-jake-paul-jeopardy/

Uggh. I'm going to be so annoyed if this fight doesn't happen. Hopefully Tommy can get his VISA sorted out in time. At least there's plenty of time to try get approval and this was only for a promo event. It seems a bit unfair to not let him in based purely on the fact that he's the brother of Tyson who has links to Kinahan. I'm sure the US taxman will be losing a lot in revenue if the Fury's don't fight there anymore. Tyson will probably just fight out of the UK or Abu Dhabi in the future. Jake might have to find a new opponent though as I can't see him making the fight in the UK given he's already booked Madison Square Gardens.
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Interesting breaking news ..
“Tommy Fury's fight with Jake Paul could go up in smoke ... after TNT claims he was denied entry into the United States ahead of their scheduled press conference in New York.

Just when it seemed like the bout was FINALLY going to happen, Tommy shared the crappy news on his Instagram on Tuesday ... saying his team showed up at Heathrow Airport to hop over the pond ... but they were shut down.

"As soon as I entered the airport, I was pulled to one side and told by a Homeland Security officer that my ESTA had been denied and that I wasn't able to travel to the USA for a reason I apparently know," Tommy said in a video. “ - https://www.tmz.com/2022/06/28/tommy-fury-denied-entry-into-united-states-fight-jake-paul-jeopardy/
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Yup Its all about making money. This is a win-win for everyone, the audiences also are seeing two celebrities fighting on the stage. Although Tommy isn't as good as his brother, he is still popular. Along with Jake Paul who had created his name being a social media influencer to his exhibition fights, there is a shitload of money to make.

Jake is willing to give millions to someone popular to fight with him but of course its his Most Valuable Promotions that will organize the event.

It is somewhat being billed as the first real fight between Jake Paul and an actual boxer.  Being honest, I have no idea what to expect.  Jake has surprised everyone with every fight, so maybe he'll keep that momentum going.  All the pros seem to think he doesn't have a chance, but we're used to hearing that by now.  I am surprised Jake is willing to put up so much money on a bet with Tommy's brother, but maybe that's just talk.  This fight has been in discussion for a long time and it seems like Tommy is over his rib injury and ready to go at it.  I'm sort of hoping we see another Jake Paul KO so the legend can continue.
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But for what McGregor lacks in height he makes up in experience and skill. Both McGregor and Mayweather are 1.73 meters tall and Floyd obviously fought Logan Paul who is 1.88 so I can still see this happening in the future. Nobody will care about the difference in height/weight when there's a shitload of money on the line. If Jake wins this I guarantee you Connor will probably start sniffing around for this fight.

Yup Its all about making money. This is a win-win for everyone, the audiences also are seeing two celebrities fighting on the stage. Although Tommy isn't as good as his brother, he is still popular. Along with Jake Paul who had created his name being a social media influencer to his exhibition fights, there is a shitload of money to make.

Jake is willing to give millions to someone popular to fight with him but of course its his Most Valuable Promotions that will organize the event.

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I'm loving their twitter war after they finally signed up for the match hehe. Tommy doing better at responding to the social media taunts and rants of Jake than I was expecting. He understand how to sell fights and this could do well on Gate sales and PPV with how things are going so far.

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Official press conference and tickets on sale Wednesday June 29th at 11AM
https://twitter.com/tommytntfury/status/1540076479555543044

Their press conference should be fun to watch. It could be better than their actual match.

The press conferences probably won't be that great. Tommy doesn't really have much patter/banter. He seems quite quiet really, especially compared to his brother/father and they were doing most of the talking in the build up to the last fight before it was called off. The real excitement is going to be what happens in the ring. I can't call it at all. The odds are slightly in Tommy's favour and that's understandable, but not my much. I could see it going the distance p[ersonally, though I hope someone gets knocked out. I think both fighters could be very cagey and worried about getting knocked out so might be hesitant to go for the kill. Both are going to want to keep their unbeaten 'titles' but it's going to be an absolute embarrassment for Tommy if he doesn't get the KO. Even if it goes the distance and he wins on points it's still going to be a bad look for him in my opinion.

We wanted to see Jake Paul being destroyed by a real boxer. But in this is going to be an exhibition match, I'm not expecting any knockout.

Why dont you expect a knockout in an exhibition fight? In previous exhibition fight Jake knocked out Tyron Woodley, even though some people consider it was staged. Previously formed MMA fighter Vitor Belfort brutally KOed former boxing champ Evander Holyfield (but I think it was a mismatch).

Jake is able to knockout Tommy Fury, as Tommy is not the greatest boxer. He has a good record, but he was fighting against punching bags all the time.

It wasn't staged. The only people who say that are plastic armchair boxing commentators in YouTube and twitter comments. Woodley, got sparked out cold. Nobody saw that coming, not even Woodley.

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I'd imagine Jake won't be fighting anyone big less he likely would have announced it already and done his own fight. Maybe he's combining it with Amanda so it's not a flop. I'd be very surprised if he fights anyone notable, especially someone like Tommy Fury, unless he's worried that not many people will be interested without another headline act like Serrano. I really think he should have tried to set that fight up as it's a logical step up for him and gets him the cred of actually fighting a boxer.
Jake Paul is supposed to fight Tommy Fury in this event and we all know that he pulled out of the event one time and that is being expected here as well as Jake Paul and even uncle Chael Sonnen predicted that Tommy Fury will pull out of the event citing some injuries and hence may be Jake Paul is mocking him with the poster and i really wanted to see that fight happen rather than any other short term replacement.

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 If Jake has a decent performance who knows where he will go after this fight but if he wins it wouldn't surprise me if his next fight is against someone like McGregor.
McGregor is too small for Jake Paul and i would not want to see that mismatch and Jake Paul would easily win that fight as he will be dragged to the later rounds and finish him there.

But for what McGregor lacks in height he makes up in experience and skill. Both McGregor and Mayweather are 1.73 meters tall and Floyd obviously fought Logan Paul who is 1.88 so I can still see this happening in the future. Nobody will care about the difference in height/weight when there's a shitload of money on the line. If Jake wins this I guarantee you Connor will probably start sniffing around for this fight.
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This fight gets more interesting as Jake Paul challenges Tyson Fury for a $100k bet. Jake says Tyson to bet on his brother. But then Tyson up the stakes high at $1 million and Jake Paul responded.

https://twitter.com/jakepaul/status/1540862184745537537

And Jake Paul says that his lawyer is in contact with Tyson Fury to put the money in escrow.
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LOL, it was the most impressive boxing match of this era, should we use VR to see shadow boxers?
If you're want to start boxing career, then you must watch and learn all the Jake Paul's technique Tongue

McGregor is too small for Jake Paul and i would not want to see that mismatch and Jake Paul would easily win that fight as he will be dragged to the later rounds and finish him there.
They can do an exhibition match if they're want or if McGregor really interested with the offer, he might consume more protein and work out to reach the Jake Paul's weight.
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I'd imagine Jake won't be fighting anyone big less he likely would have announced it already and done his own fight. Maybe he's combining it with Amanda so it's not a flop. I'd be very surprised if he fights anyone notable, especially someone like Tommy Fury, unless he's worried that not many people will be interested without another headline act like Serrano. I really think he should have tried to set that fight up as it's a logical step up for him and gets him the cred of actually fighting a boxer.
Jake Paul is supposed to fight Tommy Fury in this event and we all know that he pulled out of the event one time and that is being expected here as well as Jake Paul and even uncle Chael Sonnen predicted that Tommy Fury will pull out of the event citing some injuries and hence may be Jake Paul is mocking him with the poster and i really wanted to see that fight happen rather than any other short term replacement.

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 If Jake has a decent performance who knows where he will go after this fight but if he wins it wouldn't surprise me if his next fight is against someone like McGregor.
McGregor is too small for Jake Paul and i would not want to see that mismatch and Jake Paul would easily win that fight as he will be dragged to the later rounds and finish him there.
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