Topic: Jake Paul VS Anderson Silva October 29th - page 6. (Read 5274 times)

I honestly don't know weather you people are just naïve, signature shitposting or don't know anything about boxing. Show me the evidence of all this "holding back". These boxing fights are the same as any other. Nobody wants to lose. Everybody wants to win. They're all done for the money but there's absolutely no evidence to suggest the fights are fixed or the outcome is 'decided'.

Are you trying to tell me all the people Jake has knocked out are just acting? Because if so, give them their Oscars:





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They all go down from great punches. No acting or anything suspicious, they just got shook from a good punch and nobody can stop their brains from rattling around in their skulls.

Is it really not possible that Jake might actually just be a pretty good boxer? He's surprised me for sure but he's deserved the wins and I've seen nothing that would suggest any fighter is holding back or not trying to hurt him. Put him in the ring with another Pro boxer coming up like Tommy Fury and I think we'll see how similarly matched they are. That's one reason why I really want that fight to happen and hopefully it will shut up a lot of this nonsense. If Jake can get passed Silva and someone like Fury and do a good job there's no reason why we couldn't see him against a decent current pro boxer but he needs to build himself up to that.


Noted. Next time I'll do that.

you don't think accuracy of Silva's hand can out boxed Jake? though he is old, Silva can still do what adesanya do like avoiding getting hit while throwing punch at the same time. when his accuracy can out balance Jake, it will be the end of it.  

not only it can generate millions from tickets, Jake also make money deal to potential fighters in UFC to fight him to which we can't discount the fight being a fixed match.

The difference in age always have the key role of young taking credit of the older ones. However with these kind of fights, the experience really matters alot. Not as skilled games, here tricks and techniques give hands. These days giving hype to matches have turned to be common, as the key focus is to generate millions of dollars out of the fight. This in long term will ruin the real game of the professionals.

The age plays a dominant role as your stamina boost really matters in these fights but they are for actual boxers and Paul have turned out to be in this new race from few time and publicity and you can clearly see the hype for these kind of matches and we see new beef arising out for the whole money purpose because million of dollars are involved in it.But only watch these as entertainment purposes knowing the truth behind them.

And that is his secret, trash talking and making fun of his opponents in public, pulling some stunts even against Floyd. Yes we see the respect and so there is a chance that this fight is going to be rigged as you have said and most probably for entertaining purposes only. But they know that fans are going to watch it live so they have to stage as it they are like going for a knock out but in the end it could end in a draw.

Well! he may start like a WWE-style fight in boxing where everything is on stage but the fans still want to see it. Just like the old days, we thought everything was real and there was no drama r whatsoever involved but as soon as the internet is accessible to us, we shockingly know the truth, and we are still the fans of The Rock, John Cena, and others. Maybe right now they wanted to promote it like it was just normal boxing but when they gathered so many numbers of fans they might eventually tell the truth to everyone.

There is a chance the fight results in to draw. Jake has so much respect for Silva, he admits it as he is a fan and they even have photos together with Anderson and the Logan kids. No trashing and no need for the fight to be hyped because it's The Spider they are fighting. However, if this is not really a fixed/exhibition fight, Anderson will lose.

Unlike what the situation with Floyd and Jake which they are trash-talking recently. They might fight too. Jake is killing the market with his upcoming fights. He is just hitting big celebrity names.

Youth can win especially that the experienced one does not specialized in boxing, though it's still the same combat sport. However, boxing may have required more stamina than MMA as you need to keep your feet and head moving, otherwise you'll never get a momentum.
I've read through some of the users sentiments in this match, and I guess most users here thinks neither of both have the same percentage of winning. And yeah, the thing that separates this two on determining who will this match  is the youth and experience.

When people start these vs threads they should really make them polls. I’m curious who the community feels is going to win this one but don’t want to read through and tally everything myself. I think that youth is going to beat experience in this one, but I also don’t think Jake can knock him out so we’ll have to see if he can win when it comes down to a decision.

Of course, what do you expect from this kind of fights? this is all for fun and money grab for them, specially for high level former fighters. But the hype they are putting prior to the fight though that makes other believed that they really wanted to take each other heads off. But when the bell rings, they are holding it back and not giving their 100% on the fight. And when the winner was announced, it could be a draw and everyone was so frustrated with the decision specially if you have a bet on it. So it's better to stay away from actually betting on this kind of exhibition fights.

Personally I think all of the jake Paul fights are staged. Go back and watch, it looks to me like his opponents are really holding back. There is a world of difference between athletic guys and champions. Jake Paul doesn't belong in there with the top guys. Just my opinion though. One thing I do like is that some mma guys that didn't really get paid during their mma careers are getting some big paydays from a glorified workout with Paul. Can't complain about that. And if people like this stuff, and want to be entertained, I have nothing against that either. If I was to bet, I would bet on Paul to win, because I think that is the predetermined outcome, but, I can see Silva accidentally pooping him one and getting the ko, so I don't think I will actually bet on the event.

I wouldn't of thought so. The commission, and the promoters behind boxing isn't going to risk something like that. It would discredit boxing, and it's not like Jake is liked by everyone within the boxing community. If caught, it would basically discredit every single boxing event that has ever occurred, due to the nature, and exposure that Jake Paul has. Fixing does happen, obviously. However, it's usually the fighters or teams themselves. If you're asking whether I think Anderson would be willing to take a dive; absolutely not.

I think every single knockout Jake has gotten, has been legitimate. Trust me, no one willing fully wants to get knocked out, and turned into a meme. The only one which I thought the accusations would be thrown around the most was the Woodley one. Simply because he didn't throw much. However, anyone that knows him from the UFC will know that's just his style. He's always been like that, and it's probably one of the reasons Jake Paul's team thought he was a good choice to fight.

Yes, $85 US dollars for the new subscribers is quite hilarious for this one, the organizers and PPV are surely taking advantage for the last fight between the rival boxers. It's interesting to watch it and been a good fight so far but the price is not reasonable enough as we already expected what will be the outcome would be like.


Gotta hand it to you, Jake Paul is frankly better than Logan Paul. The latter don't have any skills at all unlike his younger brother, Jake, who managed to continue in making his name in the league. But the thing is that he'll still criticized again this time because he is again having a fight with a retired UFC future HOF. Although Silva is not that bad in boxing, chances of Jake Paul winning the fight is still higher than the retired UFC fighter.

And there is no doubt that he is good at it, more than his older brother. He is heavily criticized for getting and fighting washed out fighters from UFC in the boxing ring, well I guess, that's the new trend these days as boxing industry is a business industry as well. I can't see any reasons why UFC fighters won't accept Jake Paul's proposal, I mean, majority of the UFC fighters are underpaid and accepting Jake Paul's invitation is already a guaranteed money for them.


Sorry for the confusion What I mean is that this is not an exhibition fight, it's considered as professional fight as this is Silva's professional debut in boxing. But this fight is not something that we often see because often times, a cross-over fight is declared as exhibition fight.
 

Again, then you should apply this same logic to any fight as this fight has as much chance of being fixed as any other. And all fights are for the money. When a fighter says he doesn't care about the money they're lying. How many fighters fight for free or donate all their money to charity? Zero. It's a business and a good one at that if you make it to the top and become one of the most popular fighters. And how do they do that? By grabbing headlines and people like Jake Paul are masters of it. It would be obvious if the fights were fixed or staged in anyway. There would be no question about it. This isn't the WWE. Most 'bad blood' in fights is just done to sell the fights anyway. It's just theatre to generate hype and add a little spice to the match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z-oJTZ1b5Q

Silva is really not going to want to get knocked out because it will be embarrassing and taint his legacy, but why would he take that risk? Because the millions of dollars he's going to get paid will be worth it. He will be getting paid more for this fight alone than what he would have probably got in half of his UFC career.


They're never going to work together. Dana hates Jake and has even banned questions about him at the UFC pressers. Dana probably needs to keep fighter pay down as much as possible so it doesn't effect his bottom-line. If all fighters suddenly started wanting the big bucks UFC wouldn't be anywhere near as profitable as it now. They obviously need to find some middle ground though because a lot of the smaller fighters get hardly anything and even big fighters like Ngannou aren't getting paid what they deserve.



Well it all comes down to the PPV numbers, ticket sales and ad revenue from sponsors etc. As long as that money is there then fight will happen and generate at lot of money for the big ones, but there will be a lot of flops happening. Eddie Hearn alluded to the recent Canelo fight not doing as great as they wanted it to, but they PPV numbers are out there as are the purses for each fighter and doing the math they probably struggled to break even, though it's hard to calculate truly because Dazn had the worldwide rights for the fight but they charged different amounts for it in different countries.




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But the fight was shown for free in other markets like Spain and Germany which is how I watched it. Nearly $100 for a fight is ridiculous though, especially for not really a huge one like this.

Boxers make their money through sponsorships, and the fight money. UFC fighters don't get either. There's recently been backlash since they've been prevented from having their own sponsors, in favour of UFC sponsors. I mean, take a look at the Nate Diaz drama with the Rock currently, which is all about him being forced to wear the Rock's shoes.

I can't really blame the fighters wanting to make their money in boxing. If I was them, and I wanted to take care of not only my future, but my families I'd be boxing. UFC need to wake up at some point as they'll lose a lot of current fighters once their contracts are up or they'll lose out on prospective fighters since currently in terms of monetary value boxing is more worthwhile. It also doesn't look good when pretty much all your fighters are complaining about the pay, and legends of the sport are retiring in boxing, because quite frankly they didn't earn what they should've in the UFC.

I think this has been the case for almost all of the biggest sporting event including boxers, there are sponsors willing to pay the boxers and fighters for advertisement and then there are the networks and promoters.

So everything boils down as how much money they can generate, even if it is former UFC/boxers against a Youtube sensation. And yes, this could be stage and rigged so it's really up to those gamblers if they are willing to be "part of the plan". 

All sporting event takes place because money is involved, we are not living during the Rome colosseum tournaments where slaves were forced to fight . If not for the money who in the right mind will participate in getting their face punched and you do not need bad blood and drama or a huge rivalry to set a match up. The prime audience who will purchase the PPV will be MMA fans who likes to see Anderson Silva back in boxing and the other set of fans who wants to see Jake Paul getting knocked out.

What is a pure professional fight  .

Hasn't he started a union or was suggesting to start a union for the UFC fighters? I'm not sure if he was serious or if he was just making fun of Dana at that point, since I know they had a ongoing beef. However, they really should start thinking about uniting together, and actually doing something about the pay situation. UFC is taking off like no other sport right now, we're seeing record growth, yet fighters pay has remained the same.

Honestly, I'm not even sure how boxing generates the money it does, since I do believe there's been an ongoing trend where boxing is losing supporters. Maybe, these Youtubers coming into the scene did help out a bit. I doubt any boxing elitist is going to admit that though .

I think most fights are done because of the money alone...  I actually like the way Jake Paul has started handing out paydays to those he likes.  It makes the most sense.  Find fighters who have established themselves in underpaid fights for the UFC, then create an ultimate fight where they both make a fortune without the UFC.  Sure, Jake is doing it because it makes him the most money, but the side effect of having underpaid fighters get a massive payday is pretty cool.  I hope he continues getting his idols paid.  It's pretty awesome.