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September 16, 2022, 03:06:44 PM
I’m not reading the opinion of analyst here but I thought Jake will be the underdog on this fight?
Yeah Jake Paul is an underdog in this fight, I think it's good since I see Paul has higher chance to win against Silva, so I definitely bet hit without any hesitant. Silva career is over since he's already old, similar like Mike Tyson where he accept anything if he's offered with money. I expect Paul will win via KO on the late round when Silva run out of his stamina, so he either survive and slowing down or being aggressive and tired.

Yes, betting on Jake Paul is much more profitable as he is considered as underdog by the bookies while Silva is a heavy favorite. People might be confused because they probably know more about Silva than Jake Paul who is still struggling to be a full pledge boxer in the eyes of the people, but Jake is likely going to be the winner here and might defeat the former MMA fighter by a way of knockout especially when the fight drags on while Silva is grasping for air.
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September 16, 2022, 01:06:24 PM


Age is not really a big factor in fights that can be viewed as an advantage, I mean, what can that age do if you're not equipped with the right tools to defeat an experienced veteran fighter who has a strong IQ? As for Jake Paul, he is not a so called professional boxer because he is just fighting MMA fighters who are way past their prime, and now this fight will add to that record he is boasting.



Of course age is a factor. You do not move or hit the same at 50 as you do at peak 25-30 or whatever. Everything is effected - stamina, speed, agility, recovery time + many more factors. You just can't keep going for as long as you could when you were in your prime not can you take as much damage. Anderson is no slouch but he's not in his 20s or 30s anymore either so age is a huge factor. If Jake was fighting Anderson at his prime at the same age Jake is now the odds would be greatly against him.

Jake Paul wants to knock out Anderson Silva but the question for that is, can he really do that? I doubt it. Maybe the opposite thing will happen Cheesy

People said the same about Woodley and Jake got one of the best KOs of the year against him. If you tuned into a random boxing match and Jake was fighting on the undercard you wouldn't even question whether he was a boxer. He's certainly got the skills and a lot of respected boxing commentators and pundits say the same thing. The only thing counting against him is he's choosing fighters at the end of their careers but he's just getting started really and I'm sure he's building up to better, more age-appropriate fighters. It's only a matter of time really but baby steps are the best way to go about it right now given he obviously doesn't have the years of fighting amateur fighters have before they go pro. He tried to fight current pros in Rahman Jr and Tommy Fury but they both messed him about.
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September 16, 2022, 09:55:39 AM
This fight is not an exhibition fight mate, I already looked it up and found out that this will count as professional fight for Jake and pro-boxing debut for Silva's side. Aside from entertainment, Jake Paul will be so honored because he is now fighting the man whom he have pure respect ever since he is still a kid, Jake already looked up Silva.

I just hope that it won't be too clear that they are just both after the money without having an entertaining fight, I really hope so!

Well good for them, sadly Silva won't be labeled as the oldest boxing debutant because a 52-year-old Paul Ianuzzi beats him to it, winning his debut fight via KO last 2022-07-15.[1]  As for Jake Paul, I don't mind him beating past prime fighters, he won't get the recognition boxing champion has until he beat them anyway.



[1] https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/1072816

Unless Jake Paul can find that active professional boxer in the same division that is interested to fight him, but if he cannot, then he's just as good as his brother even though his records are all sanctioned as pro-fights. His only chance was to have a fight against Rahman Jr. but it seems that the latter is just playing with him.

I have the same wish. If it does aim for money then don't make it look like that. Fight like it's for glory, respect, and reputation and not just because they will be paid in millions of dollars.
The boxing world had already been blemished by fighters who are acting to be knockout so badly to avoid being hurt more and just be paid without a bruise. This is why MMA is getting more attention than them.
This is not like a content being made by streamers anymore. It's a real fight and it must be entertaining just like it.

Indeed! Exhibition fights is not that bad to see as long as the fighters who participated the said events will do their job in entertaining the people and their fans who have paid the ticket and PPV just to see them fight. Especially now, it's already expected that this fight will be jampacked because Silva will return in the spotlight.
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September 16, 2022, 08:25:57 AM
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I’m not reading the opinion of analyst here but I thought Jake will be the underdog on this fight?
Yeah Jake Paul is an underdog in this fight, I think it's good since I see Paul has higher chance to win against Silva, so I definitely bet hit without any hesitant. Silva career is over since he's already old, similar like Mike Tyson where he accept anything if he's offered with money. I expect Paul will win via KO on the late round when Silva run out of his stamina, so he either survive and slowing down or being aggressive and tired.
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September 16, 2022, 07:47:29 AM
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Thinking skills of a person become less sharper through age same with the body agility. Silva IQ and thinking skills is not that sharp anymore that’s why his moves becomes slower and less agile base on his previous matches on pro. Brain thinks first before body reacts and if the human physical body became slower means his brain is getting slower to process data too.
He's still very good mind. Despite his older age he's still more dangerous, and better technically at striking than Jake's previous opponents. So, while yeah I think we all know he's a little old, and that ageing is showing on his ability, he's still a decent opponent for someone like Jake to fight at this stage in his career.

It's also worth noting there's been champions at around this age, quite recently in the UFC actually. Jake also isn't a world beater at this point so we aren't expecting him to fight others that are. I think it's a unrealistic that critics have, whereas fans actually realise he's going about it the right way for the longevity of his career. Just like any other boxer out there.

Yep. This why I think this fight will not be one-sided and Jake can give Silva a hell of fight because Silva is not that agile compared on his prime in UFC when he can dodge close punch. I acknowledge how good the fist skills of Silva before and Jake will not be able to defeat him even on boxing if Silva still have that moves but since he already aged as I already mention, Jake can give him a good fight even though he is facing the former champion in UFC.

I’m not reading the opinion of analyst here but I thought Jake will be the underdog on this fight?
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September 16, 2022, 06:18:34 AM
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Thinking skills of a person become less sharper through age same with the body agility. Silva IQ and thinking skills is not that sharp anymore that’s why his moves becomes slower and less agile base on his previous matches on pro. Brain thinks first before body reacts and if the human physical body became slower means his brain is getting slower to process data too.
He's still very good mind. Despite his older age he's still more dangerous, and better technically at striking than Jake's previous opponents. So, while yeah I think we all know he's a little old, and that ageing is showing on his ability, he's still a decent opponent for someone like Jake to fight at this stage in his career.

It's also worth noting there's been champions at around this age, quite recently in the UFC actually. Jake also isn't a world beater at this point so we aren't expecting him to fight others that are. I think it's a unrealistic that critics have, whereas fans actually realise he's going about it the right way for the longevity of his career. Just like any other boxer out there.
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September 16, 2022, 06:11:03 AM
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Anyway, Silva in any case has an advantage over Paul, this is his experience, but the almost two-fold age difference minimizes this advantage, by the way, Paul says that he really wants to knock out Silva, but as he said with respect, or maybe not, I still wish Silva a victory.



Age is not really a big factor in fights that can be viewed as an advantage, I mean, what can that age do if you're not equipped with the right tools to defeat an experienced veteran fighter who has a strong IQ? As for Jake Paul, he is not a so called professional boxer because he is just fighting MMA fighters who are way past their prime, and now this fight will add to that record he is boasting.


Thinking skills of a person become less sharper through age same with the body agility. Silva IQ and thinking skills is not that sharp anymore that’s why his moves becomes slower and less agile base on his previous matches on pro. Brain thinks first before body reacts and if the human physical body became slower means his brain is getting slower to process data too.

Jake undergo special training dedicated on this sports so I’m sure he is prepared on this kind of match. He knew how smart Silva is inside the octagon so he might be developing a strategy to counter it.
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September 16, 2022, 06:03:28 AM
#95
Is it just me or is anybody else sick of the Paul brothers? I fully respect them as businessmen, they sure know how to market themselves & make money. I just wish they would leave combat sports alone, it makes a mockery of boxing that they are still pushing it. They still haven’t fought a moderate level boxer but the PPV still kills it. I don’t understand, they fight old MMA fighters & sometimes not even actual fighters. Somebody needs to put a stop to this circus.
I was before, but not really. I don't think Jake is making a mockery of the sport. Jake has dedicated himself for a couple of years now, and you look at the press conference he did with Anderson, and he's respectable, and he's not pulling any shenanigans to sell the fight.

While, I'm not going to stand here, and claim he has fought a moderate boxer as you put it, but who at this point in their career has? Technically, everyone starts off somewhere, and Jake is no different, apart from the fact he's actually fought some very known fighters, albeit it being from a different sport. Even the great boxers today didn't fight recognisable names at the start of their career.

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September 15, 2022, 03:46:09 PM
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Is it just me or is anybody else sick of the Paul brothers? I fully respect them as businessmen, they sure know how to market themselves & make money. I just wish they would leave combat sports alone, it makes a mockery of boxing that they are still pushing it. They still haven’t fought a moderate level boxer but the PPV still kills it. I don’t understand, they fight old MMA fighters & sometimes not even actual fighters. Somebody needs to put a stop to this circus.
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September 15, 2022, 03:42:27 PM
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Age is not really a big factor in fights that can be viewed as an advantage, I mean, what can that age do if you're not equipped with the right tools to defeat an experienced veteran fighter who has a strong IQ? As for Jake Paul, he is not a so called professional boxer because he is just fighting MMA fighters who are way past their prime, and now this fight will add to that record he is boasting.

Jake Paul wants to knock out Anderson Silva but the question for that is, can he really do that? I doubt it. Maybe the opposite thing will happen Cheesy
Well age does have an effect, and that's pretty evident with the decline of athletes across many sports. Plus, we know Silva has declined with age, he isn't the same fighter he was ten years ago, that's for sure. Although, he's still a threat that's quite obvious. Power doesn't really leave you with age, you sort of retain that for a while, technique is largely still there, it's the ability to keep up with the youngsters, and keep your form when you're tired, which is something you have to really train into yourself at a older age to be able to somewhat cope with it.

Yeah, Jake could knock out Silva. He clearly has the power, and Silva isn't the best defensively. It's a possibility, and probably where I'd put my money for the maximum return. However, isn't something I'd like to see happen.
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September 15, 2022, 12:07:52 PM
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This fight is not an exhibition fight mate, I already looked it up and found out that this will count as professional fight for Jake and pro-boxing debut for Silva's side. Aside from entertainment, Jake Paul will be so honored because he is now fighting the man whom he have pure respect ever since he is still a kid, Jake already looked up Silva.

I just hope that it won't be too clear that they are just both after the money without having an entertaining fight, I really hope so!
I have the same wish. If it does aim for money then don't make it look like that. Fight like it's for glory, respect, and reputation and not just because they will be paid in millions of dollars.
The boxing world had already been blemished by fighters who are acting to be knockout so badly to avoid being hurt more and just be paid without a bruise. This is why MMA is getting more attention than them.
This is not like a content being made by streamers anymore. It's a real fight and it must be entertaining just like it.
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September 15, 2022, 11:37:56 AM
#91
Anyway, Silva in any case has an advantage over Paul, this is his experience, but the almost two-fold age difference minimizes this advantage, by the way, Paul says that he really wants to knock out Silva, but as he said with respect, or maybe not, I still wish Silva a victory.



Age is not really a big factor in fights that can be viewed as an advantage, I mean, what can that age do if you're not equipped with the right tools to defeat an experienced veteran fighter who has a strong IQ? As for Jake Paul, he is not a so called professional boxer because he is just fighting MMA fighters who are way past their prime, and now this fight will add to that record he is boasting.

Jake Paul wants to knock out Anderson Silva but the question for that is, can he really do that? I doubt it. Maybe the opposite thing will happen Cheesy
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September 15, 2022, 05:56:00 AM
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I still can't make any sense on this "entertainment boxing" world that is going on with the Paul brothers. They were getting a lot of heat from that one video, and then they ended up moving to boxing and now they are making a killing from this as well. That doesn't really make any sense to me at all, why would anyone think that boxing for fun, between two people who rarely knows how boxing works, is worth watching?

Recently they branched out to other fighting style people to come and box with them, the whole Woods vs Jake was a big joke, Woods should have taken him very quickly, I guess age does make you worse, Silva is not young neither, it could be a trouble for him. Once the greatest fighter, now just a cash clown, very sad to see.
Have you actually watched any of them fight? Jake is good, despite what people say about his opponents he's fighting much higher profile fighters than your typical new boxer. Thus, his record in five to ten years might be the best you've ever seen. He's not fighting no namers, everyone he has fought apart from the Youtuber fighters has been a fighter with a decorated career.

Plus, Logan Paul wasn't terrible in technique. He's just not a fighter in the same way that Jake is, and therefore hasn't got as much desire to be that fighter. He doesn't throw often enough for one, and there's practically no combos from him. Jake is different, and is legitimately a fighter with a skill set.
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September 14, 2022, 06:59:07 PM
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Of course, everything is a pre-arranged match, even the winner is already known. For us, the more the show is effective on both sides, the more the pleasure of watching will increase. It's nice to see only Anderson Silva around here, he's a 47-year-old mixed-fighting pro at the UFC, I don't need to tell his story. If it's going to be a real fight, Jake Paul's job is a little hard for me to say. Also, Anderson Silva is an active person, Jake Paul is making strong shots, I know that, but his opponent is the old wolf, Anyway, it's sure to be fun to watch.
If you are thinking this as a circus like the pro wrestling then you are mistaken. Jake Paul fights sanctioned bouts and you cannot fix fights like that Tongue. He might be selecting his opponents and that is how every boxer does and that does not mean that the fights are fixed Cheesy.

Recently they branched out to other fighting style people to come and box with them, the whole Woods vs Jake was a big joke, Woods should have taken him very quickly, I guess age does make you worse, Silva is not young neither, it could be a trouble for him. Once the greatest fighter, now just a cash clown, very sad to see.
Tyron Woods should have but he did not and he got flatlined face first, which means Jake Paul is not a joke and he have some skills as a boxer. Does it translates to elite boxers, he might not but he have the skills to compete.
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September 14, 2022, 06:43:51 PM
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They are really destroying the beautiful history of boxing, i still have the same excitement when i watch old fights as Muhammed ali or Naseem Hamed, now these kids that keeps paying to play with old fighters that has nothing to do with boxing and feel proud when they win as beating a 50 yo man an achievement. Why not fighting on ufc with a good shape fighter? Jake paul is a joke and anderson silva is just looking for the money, someone should stop this!

I disagree with you in this case, they are not destroying the beautiful history of boxing, they are adding colors and flavors to it.  Muhammed also has matches against none boxing people, so this kind of stuff is normal in boxing history.

Don't be a party pooper, just avoid it if it isn't your taste and let people who like this kind of stuff watch it to their full contentment.  Tongue.

This fight is not an exhibition fight mate, I already looked it up and found out that this will count as professional fight for Jake and pro-boxing debut for Silva's side. Aside from entertainment, Jake Paul will be so honored because he is now fighting the man whom he have pure respect ever since he is still a kid, Jake already looked up Silva.

I just hope that it won't be too clear that they are just both after the money without having an entertaining fight, I really hope so!

Well good for them, sadly Silva won't be labeled as the oldest boxing debutant because a 52-year-old Paul Ianuzzi beats him to it, winning his debut fight via KO last 2022-07-15.[1]  As for Jake Paul, I don't mind him beating past prime fighters, he won't get the recognition boxing champion has until he beat them anyway.



[1] https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/1072816
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September 14, 2022, 02:43:28 PM
#87
It was a cool moment in the press conference for this fight when Anderson Silva, Jake Paul, & Logan Paul recreated a picture they took 13 years ago when the Paul brothers were just kids happy to meet Silva. Google it if you haven’t seen the side by side images. It’s pretty cool that they did that. Anderson Silva seems like a really great guy. I hope the fight goes well for him.
Found it. I am glad Anderson Silva can still remember it as he said in the press conference. If I am that, it's not easy to have a memory of those things especially when you banged in the head many times.
"Now I am fighting you." said Jake Paul.
There's no heat happening, everything is full of respect and Silva is also known for that so I guess it will just be up to who will win the fight.
But isn't it a bit difficult to fight someone you have nothing against but just respect?

In the name of entertainment they will still fight. I cant remember one Silva's fight that is boring enough so they didnt need to hype with trashings. Jake vs Anderson wouldn't be boring too unless they will prove the fight to just an exhibition once the result is a draw. He might as well be fighting youtubers like him.


This fight is not an exhibition fight mate, I already looked it up and found out that this will count as professional fight for Jake and pro-boxing debut for Silva's side. Aside from entertainment, Jake Paul will be so honored because he is now fighting the man whom he have pure respect ever since he is still a kid, Jake already looked up Silva.

I just hope that it won't be too clear that they are just both after the money without having an entertaining fight, I really hope so!
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September 14, 2022, 02:37:41 PM
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They are really destroying the beautiful history of boxing, i still have the same excitement when i watch old fights as Muhammed ali or Naseem Hamed, now these kids that keeps paying to play with old fighters that has nothing to do with boxing and feel proud when they win as beating a 50 yo man an achievement. Why not fighting on ufc with a good shape fighter? Jake paul is a joke and anderson silva is just looking for the money, someone should stop this!

I think it's actually just the opposite.  Boxing, much like Major League Baseball is struggling these days.  Gone are the days of the badass heavyweights that garner the attention of the world like Ali, Frazier, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis etc.  My love of boxing has certainly diminished due to the lack of big boy fighters these days.  Maybe UFC is partially to blame but the sport just isn't the same. 

Now I can't stand the Paul brothers, but I think it at least bring much needed attention to the sport, good or bad.  I also like some of the other celebrity fights like this past week with former NFL running backs Adrian Peterson and Leveon Bell fighting..these fights are entertaining !
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September 14, 2022, 02:18:16 PM
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Anyway, Silva in any case has an advantage over Paul, this is his experience, but the almost two-fold age difference minimizes this advantage, by the way, Paul says that he really wants to knock out Silva, but as he said with respect, or maybe not, I still wish Silva a victory.

I think we'd probably all like to see Silva win this fight.  I don't think he can though.  Is he a better fighter?  Sure.  He's so old though.  Once you hit 40 things start to change.  I get that Silva has been fighting forever so obviously he's more able to fight in his 40's than someone like myself, but I still find it hard to believe that he could beat a 20-something who is at his peak.  I will hope that Silva knocks Paul out, but I'll also hope that Silva doesn't get hurt or embarrassed out there.
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September 14, 2022, 12:07:51 PM
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They are really destroying the beautiful history of boxing, i still have the same excitement when i watch old fights as Muhammed ali or Naseem Hamed, now these kids that keeps paying to play with old fighters that has nothing to do with boxing and feel proud when they win as beating a 50 yo man an achievement. Why not fighting on ufc with a good shape fighter? Jake paul is a joke and anderson silva is just looking for the money, someone should stop this!
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September 14, 2022, 11:50:19 AM
#83
Anyway, Silva in any case has an advantage over Paul, this is his experience, but the almost two-fold age difference minimizes this advantage, by the way, Paul says that he really wants to knock out Silva, but as he said with respect, or maybe not, I still wish Silva a victory.

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