Jasinlee - one of XC's "Team Members" is a master fraudster - page 5.

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I am surprised to see that the fib site, which took a lot of effort and many were waiting in anticipation for sales to go live on it, is not showing anything to do with ASICs. However, he may have moved that somewhere else. If he did, he should have emailed everyone. Anyone got any emails?

He committed to having the ASIC purchase login area up over two weeks ago. Any mention of ASICs have been removed for three or four weeks now I believe.

He took all statements regarding ASICs down. He also never sent emails to purchasers for receipts - so any proof that we actually purchased ASICs from Jasin are personal screenshots.

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Quote from: cryptohunter on September 07, 2014, 07:49:30 AM

i like these kind of threads usually....

However, on this occasion it seems the XC side of it is being played up a little too much.

Yes if Jasin lee is a known and confirmed scammer he needs to be cut from any association with XC immediately.

This thread should be dedicated to Jasin lee directly. I think trying to leverage using XC is in poor taste.

Why not just have a huge debate here on the facts that demostrate jasin lee is a scammer??

Yes XC needs to distance themselves at once no excuses or bullshit. If he was prove innocent then he can return i guess to helping with XC.

XC spokesmen need to just own up... did you say he was part of the team before? was he part of the team? did he have access to xc source code? can he port this to cache coin?

Yeah perhaps you have made an error of judgement with jasin lee, own up , move on.

If he is a scammer then just keep creating threads here highlighting the facts until everyone knows about it.

Is jasin lee a 100% proven scammer? or is he unethical? i mean surely it is better to have a thread dedicated to establishing this first before we blacken by association other communities and developers.

Is it 100% established fact he is a scammer?

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Agree with this view.

I nearly purchased some shares in the Fib ASIC thing, and was also going to buy a few Epsilons or whatever they were called.

The move to accept CACHE caught me by surprise. I knew he had tried to buy some OTC from some early posts on the cachecoin thread (everyone was trying to get in on the privacy thing once Darkcoin's price started to go up), so as I was considering the purchase of shares I smelled something fishy and walked away. It did look like a way to push the cache price up.

I am surprised to see that the fib site, which took a lot of effort and many were waiting in anticipation for sales to go live on it, is not showing anything to do with ASICs. However, he may have moved that somewhere else. If he did, he should have emailed everyone. Anyone got any emails?

The ASICs company was set-up in some remote island somewhere off the coast of Africa. That didn't sound right either.

I have no idea if any of the accusations are true or false. Posting to mainly to watch events unfold.

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Quote from: synechist on September 06, 2014, 08:55:19 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 08:50:32 PM

Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:20:23 PM

Man no wonder you guys ....

Anything you might have to say regarding XC can safely be ignored since it would be completely self serving.

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+1 to this. I am holding a LOT of this coin. Not going to sell. This is way better than those other crap coins that go through the roof. When this dev gets through with it, I have a feeling it's going to be the best coin out of all of them. Just hope I can accumulate more before that happens.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6845023

And by the way. I have no stake in all this (wasn't involved with the ASIC stuff, not involved with XC, not seriously involved with any specific "competitor"), just putting out facts.

This post is known as an ad hominen argument. Google it.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+ad+hominen%3F

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Is it 100% established fact he is a scammer?

If butterfly labs changed their website to a marketing site of xc. And refused to talk about anything related to delivering ASICS. How long until it would be considered a scam? People couldn't even tell they were doing ASICS anymore and they quit posting? A month? Three months?

What if they had sold you the ASICS at a 30% discount for a coin that was now worth 1% of what you paid for it? And they had SOLD the coin to you while they were pumping/offering the discounts that were no longer listed on there website? And now they were offering refunds?

What's the burden of proof for "prooven scam"? Someone please tell me.

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Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 09:05:38 PM

Quote from: synechist on September 06, 2014, 09:01:24 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 08:56:49 PM

Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:54:17 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 08:50:32 PM

Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:20:23 PM

Man no wonder you guys ....

Anything you might have to say regarding XC can safely be ignored since it would be completely self serving.

Quote from: CryptoGretzky

+1 to this. I am holding a LOT of this coin. Not going to sell. This is way better than those other crap coins that go through the roof. When this dev gets through with it, I have a feeling it's going to be the best coin out of all of them. Just hope I can accumulate more before that happens.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6845023

And by the way. I have no stake in all this (wasn't involved with the ASIC stuff, not involved with XC, not seriously involved with any specific "competitor"), just putting out facts.

Ya... again repeating the dumb as a rock comment. You see my sig right and my recent posts... Do I hide the fact that I am a XC advocate/investor? You make it sound like you made a huge discovery or something....

In what way am I "dumb as a rock"? Can't argue with XC's own document. Seems as if you're the one that has problems due to your puppy dog blinders.

You might notice that the pdf is dated 8 July. It's out of date.

XC will make a statement tomorrow regarding Jasinlee's prior position and role in XC, and his current relation to XC.

In the time preceding that, you may say what you want to.

Oh my lord. You're FINALLY going do what you should have done in your very first post in this thread instead of letting your obvious friendship with Jasin prevent you from doing your job. For someone who likes to present himself as superiorly intelligent it sure took you long enough to figure out how to do your job.

friends or same guy with another account etc ?
there is like 350,000 accounts on this forum alone guys..

don't worry he is going to consult with "The Foundation" Roll Eyes

hey, piece of advice next time twatlets high on faggotry..

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i like these kind of threads usually....

However, on this occasion it seems the XC side of it is being played up a little too much.

Yes if Jasin lee is a known and confirmed scammer he needs to be cut from any association with XC immediately.

This thread should be dedicated to Jasin lee directly. I think trying to leverage using XC is in poor taste.

Why not just have a huge debate here on the facts that demostrate jasin lee is a scammer??

Yes XC needs to distance themselves at once no excuses or bullshit. If he was prove innocent then he can return i guess to helping with XC.

XC spokesmen need to just own up... did you say he was part of the team before? was he part of the team? did he have access to xc source code? can he port this to cache coin?

Yeah perhaps you have made an error of judgement with jasin lee, own up , move on.

If he is a scammer then just keep creating threads here highlighting the facts until everyone knows about it.

Is jasin lee a 100% proven scammer? or is he unethical? i mean surely it is better to have a thread dedicated to establishing this first before we blacken by association other communities and developers.

Is it 100% established fact he is a scammer?

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Quote from: synechist on September 07, 2014, 04:26:49 AM

XC has made three statements on Jasinlee prior to this, but since people continue to wilfully ignore what we say, we'll make another one.

I'm baffled why you didn't link to those statements. Huh

Show me these statements rather than accusing me of ignoring them.

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Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 09:05:38 PM

Oh my lord. You're FINALLY going do what you should have done in your very first post in this thread instead of letting your obvious friendship with Jasin prevent you from doing your job. For someone who likes to present himself as superiorly intelligent it sure took you long enough to figure out how to do your job.

I have never met Jasin in person.

XC has made three statements on Jasinlee prior to this, but since people continue to wilfully ignore what we say, we'll make another one.

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The best i can figure out is that although Jasin appeared to be listed as a developer, he was a developer of Cache coin not XC. Though this could have been clearer.
Jasin was a "consultant". https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7451279

Quote from: jasinlee on June 22, 2014, 10:42:42 AM

You are misunderstanding that they need to be separate to make PoBC function. This will change the way coims are used from being a niche to giving everyone access to crypto. This is about adoption, if you cannot see the benefits of mass adoption then why do we bother with any coins?

Anyway I hope the announcement tomorrow makes it all clear.

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This is why i never pre order anything.

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Quote from: synechist on September 06, 2014, 09:01:24 PM

You might notice that the pdf is dated 8 July. It's out of date.

XC will make a statement tomorrow regarding Jasinlee's prior position and role in XC, and his current relation to XC.

In the time preceding that, you may say what you want to.

While I am sure the statement won't be directed towards convincing me. XC has lost all credibility in my eyes by first attempting to discredit me with name calling, ignoring my evidence and proof by saying I had none, denying it was their problem in any way, the lastly denying Jasin ever had any development involvement (lead dev dan said this)

Say whatever you want. I'll include it in the OP if you'd like.

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Quote from: synechist on September 06, 2014, 09:01:24 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 08:56:49 PM

Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:54:17 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 08:50:32 PM

Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:20:23 PM

Man no wonder you guys ....

Anything you might have to say regarding XC can safely be ignored since it would be completely self serving.

Quote from: CryptoGretzky

+1 to this. I am holding a LOT of this coin. Not going to sell. This is way better than those other crap coins that go through the roof. When this dev gets through with it, I have a feeling it's going to be the best coin out of all of them. Just hope I can accumulate more before that happens.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6845023

And by the way. I have no stake in all this (wasn't involved with the ASIC stuff, not involved with XC, not seriously involved with any specific "competitor"), just putting out facts.

Ya... again repeating the dumb as a rock comment. You see my sig right and my recent posts... Do I hide the fact that I am a XC advocate/investor? You make it sound like you made a huge discovery or something....

In what way am I "dumb as a rock"? Can't argue with XC's own document. Seems as if you're the one that has problems due to your puppy dog blinders.

You might notice that the pdf is dated 8 July. It's out of date.

XC will make a statement tomorrow regarding Jasinlee's prior position and role in XC, and his current relation to XC.

In the time preceding that, you may say what you want to.

Oh my lord. You're FINALLY going do what you should have done in your very first post in this thread instead of letting your obvious friendship with Jasin prevent you from doing your job. For someone who likes to present himself as superiorly intelligent it sure took you long enough to figure out how to do your job.

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Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 08:56:49 PM

Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:54:17 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 08:50:32 PM

Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:20:23 PM

Man no wonder you guys ....

Anything you might have to say regarding XC can safely be ignored since it would be completely self serving.

Quote from: CryptoGretzky

+1 to this. I am holding a LOT of this coin. Not going to sell. This is way better than those other crap coins that go through the roof. When this dev gets through with it, I have a feeling it's going to be the best coin out of all of them. Just hope I can accumulate more before that happens.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6845023

And by the way. I have no stake in all this (wasn't involved with the ASIC stuff, not involved with XC, not seriously involved with any specific "competitor"), just putting out facts.

Ya... again repeating the dumb as a rock comment. You see my sig right and my recent posts... Do I hide the fact that I am a XC advocate/investor? You make it sound like you made a huge discovery or something....

In what way am I "dumb as a rock"? Can't argue with XC's own document. Seems as if you're the one that has problems due to your puppy dog blinders.

You might notice that the pdf is dated 8 July. It's out of date.

XC will make a statement tomorrow regarding Jasinlee's prior position and role in XC, and his current relation to XC.

In the time preceding that, you may say what you want to.

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Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:54:17 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 08:50:32 PM

Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:20:23 PM

Man no wonder you guys ....

Anything you might have to say regarding XC can safely be ignored since it would be completely self serving.

Quote from: CryptoGretzky

+1 to this. I am holding a LOT of this coin. Not going to sell. This is way better than those other crap coins that go through the roof. When this dev gets through with it, I have a feeling it's going to be the best coin out of all of them. Just hope I can accumulate more before that happens.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6845023

And by the way. I have no stake in all this (wasn't involved with the ASIC stuff, not involved with XC, not seriously involved with any specific "competitor"), just putting out facts.

Ya... again repeating the dumb as a rock comment. You see my sig right and my recent posts... Do I hide the fact that I am a XC advocate/investor? You make it sound like you made a huge discovery or something....

In what way am I "dumb as a rock"? Can't argue with XC's own document. Seems as if you're the one that has problems due to your puppy dog blinders.

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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market

Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 08:50:32 PM

Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:20:23 PM

Man no wonder you guys ....

Anything you might have to say regarding XC can safely be ignored since it would be completely self serving.

Quote from: CryptoGretzky

+1 to this. I am holding a LOT of this coin. Not going to sell. This is way better than those other crap coins that go through the roof. When this dev gets through with it, I have a feeling it's going to be the best coin out of all of them. Just hope I can accumulate more before that happens.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6845023

And by the way. I have no stake in all this (wasn't involved with the ASIC stuff, not involved with XC, not seriously involved with any specific "competitor"), just putting out facts.

This post is known as an ad hominen argument. Google it.

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Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 08:50:32 PM

Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:20:23 PM

Man no wonder you guys ....

Anything you might have to say regarding XC can safely be ignored since it would be completely self serving.

Quote from: CryptoGretzky

+1 to this. I am holding a LOT of this coin. Not going to sell. This is way better than those other crap coins that go through the roof. When this dev gets through with it, I have a feeling it's going to be the best coin out of all of them. Just hope I can accumulate more before that happens.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6845023

And by the way. I have no stake in all this (wasn't involved with the ASIC stuff, not involved with XC, not seriously involved with any specific "competitor"), just putting out facts.

Ya... again repeating the dumb as a rock comment. You see my sig right and my recent posts... Do I hide the fact that I am a XC advocate/investor? You make it sound like you made a huge discovery or something....

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Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:20:23 PM

Man no wonder you guys ....

Anything you might have to say regarding XC can safely be ignored since it would be completely self serving.

Quote from: CryptoGretzky

+1 to this. I am holding a LOT of this coin. Not going to sell. This is way better than those other crap coins that go through the roof. When this dev gets through with it, I have a feeling it's going to be the best coin out of all of them. Just hope I can accumulate more before that happens.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6845023

And by the way. I have no stake in all this (wasn't involved with the ASIC stuff, not involved with XC, not seriously involved with any specific "competitor"), just putting out facts.

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Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:24:05 PM

PRO TIPS for not what to do when you get scammed on the net...

1. Just whine about it on a forum full of anonymous people that can't help instead of calling the authority
2. Drag other people that have nothing to with it down with you so those people would REALLY give a shit about you being scammed
3. Repeat step 1-2 twenty plus times a day

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Quote from: CryptoGretzky on September 06, 2014, 08:20:23 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on September 06, 2014, 08:13:17 PM

Quote from: rdnkjdi on September 06, 2014, 07:46:45 PM

Soon after XC came up in a thread on the normal litecoin forum. I brought up that Jasinlee was the #2 core dev (it looked like it - he was listed on the website right next to Dan in the developer section). Dan popped in and said "Do you SEE HIM LISTED as a core dev? No you don't." Soon after that Jasinlee was taken off of the website.

I'll just leave this here since the XC team seems to want to rewrite history. The one thing I really dislike is when people spout some morally superior ethics and then try and hide things.

http://xc-official.com/assets/pdfs/14-07-08%20The%20XC%20Team.pdf

Man no wonder you guys got ripped off of your btc. You guys are dumb as a rock.

Do you see anything listed in there that is a contribution to XC? Maybe that's why he's no longer listed as a XC team member.... He hasn't contributed anything yet. Seriously, go back to school or something. You guys don't seem to have much IQ. Really need to smarten up so you don't get ripped off again in the future by some Nigerian prince or something.

Oh, and how many times do people need to tell you this... if you feel you got scammed, SUE... whining about it in a forum is not going to get you anywhere. Nobody else on the forum can get your money back. If someone is a scammer, they are not going to sit there and wait for you. Take action now or do you still live in your mom's basement and she's mad at you for losing her money and you don't know how to contact the police or whatever?

While I can appreciate the insults (once again pretty much all I get from the XC people) - the following is a quote from Teka

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Jasin's work and experience is beneficial to XC. So far his experience and coding in regards to XC have been extremely useful for the project.

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