Topic: 'John Abraham ≈ naim027' Coincidence or Connection? - page 3. (Read 4313 times)

Was it just a long text message, or was there any kind of evidence (screenshot of conversation)? It has become a failed attempt from him to remove the negative feedbacks as none of you have changed the decisions.

naim027 was trying to unban his account by sending PM's to moderators and administrators. Now he (John Abraham) is trying to convince three of you to clean his account reputation. We shouldn't forget that we are dealing with a liar and storyteller

Buzz!
Poker player, did you really do that? If actually you did will I say you were very unfair to him or will I say you were kind of mean or wicked to him. Whatever language I use doesn't really matter because you reserve the right to doing what pleases you but I feel that you went too far or you took it personal
I understand that some forum users whose records are not clean are always afraid of JollyGood, do you want to take over from JG? I know too well that if such message was sent to JG, he'll atleast read even if he will feel indifferent.


Some matters relating to this are better discussed in private because it is easy to convince one person than to convince a multitude. However, John Abraham taking the lane of PM at this juncture of the matter is not acceptable. It is late to use the pm. The community is very much aware of this matter and many people have discussed here. If Abraham has more evidences to vindicate himself, he should drop them here.

Well, I also received a PM from the John Abraham account. It seems those that left negative trust on his account received the PM.

I also think working behind the scenes via PM to provide information or present arguments is not best practice if the objective is to try to have feedback/trust either removed or revised. When presenting a case if everything is out in the open for all to see there can be no doubt about what is going on when questions and answers are put forward. In these types of matters the community should (as you said) be able to weight in.

I will not reply to the PM but also will state that if the John Abraham account has anything to add then he should post it here for all to read.

I deleted it without reading it. 3 red tags and two other neutrals that are almost negative because they say they don't trust him, are enough for me.

I am open to review of my feedback, especially if evidence is presented, but I am not willing to be messed with, especially by someone who is especially skilled at manipulating.

No, I got a PM from him earlier today and in it he mentioned that he was going to contact you.  I imagine the message he sent me is similar to what you received, though what I got was a long-winded explanation as to why he and naim027 aren't alt accounts.

There's enough evidence in this thread that points to the two accounts being controlled by the same person--at least enough for me to feel comfortable tagging the John Abraham one.  The moderators might feel differently or require a higher standard of proof, but there's always been that disconnect between them and DT members. 

By the way, I don't want people presenting their arguments for removing a tag being delivered via PM.  Everything should be out in the open so that the community can weigh in--at least that's the way I see it.  So John Abraham, if you want to share additional info please do it here.  Nobody's forcing you to, but I'm requesting that you do.

Am I the only person to whom John Abraham, i.e. naim027 has sent a PM regarding feedback?

As the John Abraham is no longer in a signature campaign the person using the account will probably let it fade away soon because if it cannot generate any income (or money) for the person controlling the account, it will be of no use.

That at the very least is one positive to appear from this thread that naim027 was posting using strong religious beliefs as a way of conducting himself as well posting complete paradoxical explanations certain opposite conduct. Add to the compulsive lying and attempted manipulations along with the using of profanities then it is a reminder of the reasons why he was distrusted by many members (and it was not just because he had many alt-accounts).

Royse777 must be a superman or a bot for him to be naim027, John Abraham, AnotherAlt, cryptoSoul, Cratoon and one other account I can't remember it's name. It was used by naim027 for ban appeal. Someone who can farm these accounts is really someone who has no other things to do apart from posting and applying in signature campaigns and not someone like Royse777 who manages upto 5 different campaigns and also manage bounties and other services.

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I avoided the drama in the reputation board for few days, before I could return more dramas unfolded. I see that Poker player has tagged what seems to be an official account of Paradice casino. Following the conversation allowed me to understand that paradice themselves admitted that naim027 is among people that uses the account for official purposes. Which I think there is nothing wrong with that. Because business if registered is a separate entity from people controlling it. A brand can sue and be sued.

But naim027 or whoever was using the account to post outside the paradice thread, involved in many threads in the forum where their business name was not mentioned is where the problem lies. The official status of the account has been humiliated and as such it lacks the capacity to vouch for either naim027 or John Abraham.

I don't know about niam027 or the others in the list except Royse. Royse is one of the best people I ever met on the forum, and you're somehow trying to say that he's somehow an alt of those people. I totally disagree with your statement and found it totally useless. Royse is a very honest campaign manager and I have worked with him on many campaigns, and I can vouch for his honesty as a campaign manager. He does his job with complete transparency and has been playing his role as one of the best campaign managers for the forum.


Even if someone is banned on the forum that person can work in a team as a freelancer and no rules say that a person who is banned on this forum could not work for someone outside the forum. If I'm not wrong then a banned user can't work on this forum from his account or from an alt-account, and he/she can work with others without any problem if the task is outside the forum.

Like Royse already said that the guy is a member of his campaign management team and his work is to manage spreadsheets of the campaigns. There isn't any problem if someone is doing that, and it's Royse honestly and generous nature that he shared the thing with forum members. He could have hide the thing like other people do, but he said the truth which only few people who are transparent can say without any fear. If someone is not wrong then that person doesn't have any fear to tell a truth.

I'm pretty sure that Royse isn't favoring anyone and is telling the truth only, but it's a fact that most of the times the people who tell the truth face some type of criticism and hatred. And, I would also request the members on the thread to not have grudges with each other.

That is a good answer considering the circumstances

From time to time some alt-account or another belonging to naim027 will eventually be found out and tagged, you are right about that. Whatever the real relationship between them it does not interest many of us here, they both can trust each other as much as they want but most of distrust one because of his compulsive lying and farmed alt-accounts while the other one has outgrown his ego and shown levels of increasing narcissism as he began managing multiple signature campaigns.

Personally, I trust neither of them.

You may find it as coincidence, but naim027 had removed me from his trust list after a few weeks. Where he was in the trust list of 'Cratoon' until he (naim027) lost his reputation. Not to mention, 'Cratoon' account was belongs to 'naim027' during then.


'naim027' stopped trusting himself from 'Cratoon' account after receiving a lot of negative feedback . Maybe the account still belongs to naim027. He was using his trust list as the way he needed it to get the attention of the DT members.

Naim027 added Mahdirakib that same week:

https://loyce.club/trust/2022-02-19_Sat_05.07h/1187984.html


Too many coincidences...

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week 161 - (the week prior) naim027 adds ~90 UID's to their distrust list taking their DT distrust list to exactly 100.

I believe naim027 then set about a slow build of DT votes to get themself to DT 1 by layering votes to eventually get themselves to ten votes without drawing attention to themselves

An "official statement" from someone without credibility has no value.

I'm more interested in when he added the account: February 2022. Cratoon just posted that "Naim" handled the "Cratoon" account back then:
So he included his own account on Cratoon's Trust list. That's sockpuppet voting for DT1, even though his account was nowhere near DT1.

I assume it is 'naim027' who has told you that this topic has been created for personal issues. A few more forum members have also believed it as the way naim027 tried to tell the story in 'Mahdirakib Insight' thread. It is his (naim027) poor mentality that he thinks I created this thread for personal issue. But believe it or not, I don't have any personal issue with him.

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I think it is necessary to give the answer of this now. I was trying to find the connection between 'naim027' and Crypt0S0ul after watching this post of 'morvillz7z'. Initially I couldn't find any valid connection between those accounts as I was only checking his name style (Dic3L0v3r, Crypt0S0ul, Sil3ntS0ul). He was using '0' instead of 'o' in the name of those accounts. I had sent a PM to 'LoyceV' by including those information. Then I found a real connection between 'AnotherAlt' and 'Dic3L0v3r' when I checked the addresses.

I wasn't checking anything about naim027 after that. And I had no reason to spy on 'John Abraham'. But I was a bit curious after reading this post of John Abraham in gambling section.


I'm highly active in the gambling board, but I wasn't familiar with the name 'John Abraham' when I participated in those contests. I started to investigate on 'John Abraham' account by being curious. At first, I checked his post history and noticed he wasn't active in the forum when we (Panjul07 and me) were participating on those contests regularly. Then I started to check the transaction of 'John Abraham' Bitcoin address and found the connection with 'naim027' Bitcoin address.

I had also sent an email to whirlwind.money support by requesting the information of the forum member who was sending Bitcoin to 'naim027' address. But they haven't replied to my email (email screenshot). Finally I created this topic so that the forum members can find out the more connections between 'naim027' and 'John Abraham' account. Some forum members have posted enough evidence in this thread, but 'John Abraham' (I mean naim027) is still trying to deny it by telling lies and with baseless replies.

'Sil3ntS0ul' is telegram display name of 'naim027'.

Mmm.  That argument of personal vs. business accounts befuddles me completely, as I've never seen any such interpretation of the rule regarding ban evasion being presented before--and likely for good reason, too.  Unless I'm reading things wrong, it is always the person behind the banned account who is banned, and thus any accounts under that person's control are also banned regardless of what the accounts are used for. 

If I'm not mistaken, I've seen campaign/bounty managers receive temp bans and other such individuals who have urgent forum business to attend to on a regular basis, and there was never any question that an alt account could NOT be created in order to deal with that business.  I recall pleas to the mods to lift such bans, as whoever those members were couldn't communicate with the people they needed to (it was a long time ago).

I know Royse777 had a good relationship with naim027 and probably still does, but the rest of us can't view the latter through the former's eyes.  Homeboy naim027's actions and words made in public are all we can go by, and it does seem like he's probably got a stable of alt accounts that have yet to be sniffed out.  Luckily the forum detectives can be as persistent and focused as an Adderall-sniffing, crack smoking fiend who can only pay extremely close attention to one thing, i.e., one or more of them is gonna be laser-focused on finding those alt accounts.  And they will, I've no doubt.

No one appears to have searched for Sil3ntS0ul so here goes:

https://ninjastic.space/search?content=Sil3ntS0ul



There's no rhyme nore reason why that specific name is used, however, the OP / UID that makes the post is Cratoon (the OP of the thread).

The thread ( ✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge ) is Merited by naim027 (2) a full two years *after* the thread was created.

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Cratoon [BPIP]



John Abraham [BPIP]  



changes their password 48 hours after Cratoon

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Miraculously, cratoon has showered you with merits *after* your no longer controlled the account as observed by decodx in this post.

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Funny how John Abraham's only DT distrust is of me:

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https://loyce.club/trust/2022-11-12_Sat_05.07h/1695987.html


Hmm... funny that...

This is my answer:

In which sense does it look like this is a screenshot? It might be. But I don't know if this is a screenshot. I don't remember the page/group name, but I found it from a Facebook group/page.


No. I'm telling you that you claimed not to have PayPal AFTER your alleged transaction with naim027. Which means you lied in at least one of your two statements.