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Topic: 'John Abraham ≈ naim027' Coincidence or Connection? - page 8. (Read 4226 times)

legendary
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The last three accounts, Learn Bitcoin, Bitcoin_people and Dimitri94 follow the typical naim027 pattern, posts in the local Bangladesh forum, pizza contest and WO thread where he knows how to get merits.
I certainly support all your investigation but please ensure that no innocent person should be harmed. Kindly observe my post patterns carefully and necessary all others issues.

Hello Dimitri94. I know you live in Vladivostok, but you wouldn't happen to have a brother who lives in Bangladesh and has selflessly gifted you the account?
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The last three accounts, Learn Bitcoin, Bitcoin_people and Dimitri94 follow the typical naim027 pattern, posts in the local Bangladesh forum, pizza contest and WO thread where he knows how to get merits.
I certainly support all your investigation but please ensure that no innocent person should be harmed. Kindly observe my post patterns carefully and necessary all others issues.
legendary
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My goodness Ratimov, I am looking closely at the profiles you have posted and everything smells bad, very bad.

I forgot to add that I also suspect the user Rigon. It has similar behavior and may be part of the farm I posted here.

In general, everything is very similar to the fact that a group of accounts very strongly abuses the signature campaign of YoMiix, which is run by Royse777.


Lol. Rigon who, as I already mentioned, has several neutral feedbacks of negative spirit, and the only one who has left a really negative feedback is me.
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The last three accounts, Learn Bitcoin, Bitcoin_people, and Dimitri94 follow the typical naim027 pattern, posts in the local Bangladesh forum, pizza contest and WO thread where he knows how to get merits.

I don't think you are blind enough to say I participated in a Pizza contest or Pie Contest or I am a regular in Wall Observer.
I am more into local threads, where I feel more comfortable writing. Merits? I calculated that I got 15 merits from Wall Observer in a lifetime. Check those posts. All of them are typical discussions. Merit farmers don't like the discussion. They post Tweets and Memes to get merits. You are experienced enough to understand what general discussion is and what merit farming is. Being someone's country mate won't make me someone else.
legendary
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I agree with @Poker Player, those accounts seems to be not naim027's alts, but I believe few or all of the accounts are part of another alts.

At this point I am already doubting whether all of these will be his alts, due to my previous post in which I have edited to add an analysis of the accounts. If there was one who was caught cheating in the CM campaign and managed 4 alts, of which with 3 he used to make 50 posts a week, if I remember correctly, why wouldn't naim027 be able to manage 6, 7 or 8 alts when most campaigns pay for 25?
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@Poker Player

Naim027 & John Abraham have presented some important evidence for their alternative account. (Naim027- John Abraham by Bitcoin Transactions with address) (Naim027- John Abraham by same post quality).

But on what basis are you claiming me as their alt?




Connection: John Abraham had participated in 'Yo!Mix' signature campaign for the first time as a full member. He sent his first 3 weeks payment to "naim027" address on 28th January (transaction link). He made another transaction to 'naim027' on 17th February (transaction link).



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BTC SegWit Address: bc1q9t788wr0adc4v3t3k8yv02dapn8942qxagrsaa

Possible Connection: John Abraham is a participant of whirlwind.money signature campaign now. whirlwind.money team and campaign manager have decided to pay the user on the site through note (and public address) from the 6th round. Surprisingly, 'naim027' started receiving BTC from whirlwind.money reserve address after each weekly payment since then (check his Bitcoin address). While the address of 'John Abraham' hasn't received any transaction after that.




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I also do not rule out that this could be a completely different farm, not related to naim027 himself, I also take into account the fact that I could just be wrong. But the behavior of a group of these accounts is very strange and they very often appear all together in some specific topics.
I agree with @Poker Player, those accounts seems to be not naim027's alts, but I believe few or all of the accounts are part of another alts. Too bad merit sending to alt accounts isn't deserve to get negative feedback as been pointed by theymos, actually it's an easy way to link alt accounts.

Now I see @John Abraham already get couple of negative feedback from DT members, will the campaign manager kick him? or he will able to keep making money in one of the highest paid signature campaign?

Just want to mention the users who has negative feedback and still not get kicked yet.
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I am getting lost here. Are suggesting all those are alts managed by naim027 or related to him?


I do not rule it out, since many accounts appeared here after naim027 was exposed, and judging by how they began to communicate here, and in what topics, they are obviously not complete newbies on this forum. I also do not rule out that this could be a completely different farm, not related to naim027 himself, I also take into account the fact that I could just be wrong. But the behavior of a group of these accounts is very strange and they very often appear all together in some specific topics.

This is not a direct accusation against these accounts, just my suspicions. For direct accusations, I have processed very little data to say for sure.

Well, from what angle you seem to me to be Naim027 or John Abraham's alternative account. You can compare me on their post quality, address connection, or merit exchange. You can't compare their alternatives to me in any way. You can bring more concrete evidence as usual. I can honestly say I don't have any alternative accounts.
legendary
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I also do not rule out that this could be a completely different farm, not related to naim027 himself,

I believe that at least LDL does relate to naim027 because of the quotes I put in my previous comment.

I edit to add:


My goodness Ratimov, I am looking closely at the profiles you have posted and everything smells bad, very bad.

The last three accounts, Learn Bitcoin, Bitcoin_people and Dimitri94 follow the typical naim027 pattern, posts in the local Bangladesh forum, pizza contest and WO thread where he knows how to get merits.

LDL is another one that smells very bad, because apart from the accusation of wanting to sell an account mentioned before, he also follows the same pattern: WO thread where he gets merits, pizza baking contest and local Bangladeshi forum.

Shaha98 has a negative tag by yahoo62278 for being a cheater with multiple alts.

Dubaian was banned for plagiarism.

The only one that seems cleaner is Patrol69.

I'm getting the urge to start leaving feedback aggressively.
legendary
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I am getting lost here. Are suggesting all those are alts managed by naim027 or related to him?


This name rang a bell. Turns out he was involved in an account sale allegation:

topman21 scam my 40$ help me

Let's see how curious.

What's happening in the forum? Every day you wake up and see new drama on the reputation board. We end up fighting each other and criticizing others for their opinion. At first, It looked like LDL was guilty of doing something. There is no proof that Topman is LDL. I am curious how OP contacted Topman. How did you find his telegram? Did you give them his telegram handle in the forum PM? If so, Share a screenshot, please. I have some questions.
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I feel OP is part of the scamming group and trying to ruin someone's account. 

It seems that our friend John Abraham, I mean naim027 (and I don't know if surely also LDL and many others) was very angry and very nervous when LDL's reputation was attacked. Right after I wrote this:

I see that LDL has a neutral tag already and in my case, if I tag him my tag will be negative, being alt from someone we can't trust, topman21. But as I don't have it clear, I don't act.

He wrote this:

... Look at his posts. Do you believe he is a newbie in this forum? Someone is a newbie who wants to buy a Forum account from Topman21, which has been inactive for almost two months. I am curious how OP knows that Topman21 was selling a Full member account when Topman did not create any sell thread. Topman was not in the forum for the last two months; how did you get his telegram account? Let's say you got his telegram from his bounty post. @OP, How did you know he is selling a full member account? Don't tell fairy tales!
Looking forward to hearing from you...

I find it very hard to believe that he alone can handle so many alts, but they could all be part of a farm.
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This was me when I was working with the company. I feel lucky that I used my name a couple of times while I was handling their representative account. Feel free to ask them at the time when, I (John) and Sil3ntS0ul worked there. After this response, I will not deal with you anymore. The community will judge your negative feedback.
This part of the story makes some sense. I can accept it.

We all send merits to accounts or people we know they are close to us. Whoever is behind the account now, they are or were co-workers. I don't see anything wrong if other co-worker decides to send merits.
Can we have some words from the person who is behind the account Cratoon now?

I believe that every trading transaction between two users has a chat history about fees, price and how to do it, it's not as easy as you send it to the exchange. So I'm sure you do too before the transaction - even the last one, then things could be different.
@John Abraham, do you have something to show us as suggested by _BlackStar?
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Well, seeing that the explanations he has given are garbage and that he has not answered the central point I was asking before:

After carefully rereading the thread, I think the key is here:

2- Why is a known naim027 Bitcoin address receiving funds every week from Whirlwind (via Notes) after your John Abraham account starting receiving Note payments for the Whirlwind signature campaign yet your own registered John Abraham known Bitcoin address stopped receiving funds from Whirlwind even though you are enrolled on their signature campaign?

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If I don't see a reasonable explanation about it in the next 24 hours I will leave a negative tag in his profile.

I proceed to leave negative feedback to naim027, I mean, John Abraham.

Exactly. His explanation is just pure nonsense.

Pay close attention now:

John Abraham (address: bc1q3652jcryqgy0l38unay7tx69h56a865z6t8ndx) is sending coins to naim027's address: bc1q9t788wr0adc4v3t3k8yv02dapn8942qxagrsaa, which belongs to a Binance wallet (Binance exchange deposit address unique to each user), claiming that he was selling his BTC for USD. Using the same explanation, he withdraws coins from the Whirlwind mixer to the same Binance deposit address.

Now, let's consider his previous statements:

I wouldn't say I like centralized exchanges. Still, I am using Binance and have compromised my privacy. I don't have other options to trade with my locals. There are a few numbers of platforms where I can find my locals and deal with them.

Of course, I don't want to trade with an unknown person who can run away with my money. I can also use this forum to trade, but I don't see any of my locals providing the service I am looking for. So, it's kind of I am forced to use their platform.

I am unsure what is happening with them because I am not from the USA. I have less than $30 in my Binance exchange wallet, which you can consider a leftover.

I checked the user agreement of the most trusted (?) Exchange that I use as well. It's Binance. I use this platform to trade with my locals because I do not have other options to trade with locals.

In my country, almost 90% of people use Binance to buy and sell Bitcoin and other crypto. Because of that, we had to compromise privacy. Bitcoin users are supposed to be anonymous. But, when it comes to cash out and buying bitcoins, you have fewer choices. In fact sometimes no choices other than KYC-ed Exchanges.

Some Non-KYC exchanges offer BTC to USDT and others as well. But, they do not support local fiat money. If you want to buy bitcoin with USDT, You can do it from Non-KYC-ed exchanges. But, When it comes to buying/selling bitcoin for fiat. KYC-ed exchanges are the only choice.

So, he's all about using Binance exchange "to trade with his locals" and claims he's "forced to use their platform." Alright, fair enough. But here's the head-scratcher: instead of using his own Binance deposit address like a normal person, he decides to send coins to naim027's address. Where is the logic in that? Why would he use someone else's deposit address when he claims to use Binance exchange and has his own account?

Ah, but of course! There's a perfectly logical explanation for all this madness. You see, Binance doesn't allow users to change their assigned deposit address. So, poor John here is "forced" to use the same address as his long-forgotten alter ego, naim027. It's one of those classic cases where circumstances just don't leave you with much choice. Mystery solved! Cheesy
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I decided to return here to see the version of story that naim027 aka John Abraham will come up with. I expected a story line that will throw people on this thread into serious confusion. But he failed me and came up with the old colleagues and business partner story.
I am not happy that you keep damaging so many beautiful accounts, while some newbies are just praying for 1 merit.
However, no matter how beautiful an account appears to be, if the personality behind it is a cheat or a liar, it doesn't add anything good to the community.

The proofs provided by @Mahdirakib are enough for the named member to get banned from the forum again. If not then again this member would come out with an alt account. My understanding is that a banned member is not supposed to open up a new account.
Naim027 is not banned at the moment so even if its proven that John Abraham is his alt account (which I think most likely is the case here), its not a case of ban evading, therefore no ban for John Abraham.

Then again, he doesn't even need to get banned as few negative feedbacks will make his account useless for its intended purpose which is earning money via signature campaign.


Some situations doesn't need ban. And moderators also need to be relieved of their responsibilities in some cases and in order not to add to the statistics of banned accounts as lamented by Igebotz.
Negative feedbacks are natural killers of accounts which only earns from signature campaign.
When naim027 was tagged, he was active for a while and slowly died off, same with AnotherAlt and cryptoSoul.
legendary
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Well, seeing that the explanations he has given are garbage and that he has not answered the central point I was asking before:

After carefully rereading the thread, I think the key is here:

2- Why is a known naim027 Bitcoin address receiving funds every week from Whirlwind (via Notes) after your John Abraham account starting receiving Note payments for the Whirlwind signature campaign yet your own registered John Abraham known Bitcoin address stopped receiving funds from Whirlwind even though you are enrolled on their signature campaign?

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If I don't see a reasonable explanation about it in the next 24 hours I will leave a negative tag in his profile.

I proceed to leave negative feedback to naim027, I mean, John Abraham.

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In your reply do not forget to explain exactly your response to the following:

1- I was selling my Bitcoin for USD.
2- Same reason. There is no reason to withdraw the funds to my wallet and then sell it while I can send funds directly to his wallet for free. Withdraw from Whirlwind is free.
If you can prove that - then it's very likely that the accusations about you in this thread can going in different direction. But you don't even prove anything here other than just pretending that the two of you are partners on one of the sites, that's too convoluted for your defense. I believe that every trading transaction between two users has a chat history about fees, price and how to do it, it's not as easy as you send it to the exchange. So I'm sure you do too before the transaction - even the last one, then things could be different.

So why don't you prove it?
Don't say it's also private - this doesn't seem like the right time.
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I don't think I should tell where I am from as it triggers my privacy. In fact, all your questions triggered my privacy. I am sending him BTC for USD.
So, you have nothing to defend yourself! 'naim027' is from Bangladesh. And you had also made a post in the local thread of Bangladesh. But the post isn't available now as you have deleted it. Maybe you did it for your privacy Tongue.

I guess all evidence (Paradice staff) is public. Whoever played on that platform from 2020 to Mid 2021 knows "Agent_John" very well.
We are talking about the transaction of 2023. How have you communicated with 'naim027' recently if you aren't a staff of Paradice now? You have no evidence to post here as you are creating a fake story.


I saw you have posted a couple of times on their ANN. If you are a player on that platform, you might have seen me there.
I can't recall whether I have seen 'Agent_John' on the site or not. I haven't made any deposit on Paradice after my first withdrawal experience.
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JollyGood, I think you are overreacting. I don't think I did not give you enough evidence. You seem too quick to tag my account without even investigating the information I left for the questions you asked.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55483764
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5276629

This was me when I was working with the company. I feel lucky that I used my name a couple of times while I was handling their representative account. Feel free to ask them at the time when, I (John) and Sil3ntS0ul worked there. After this response, I will not deal with you anymore. The community will judge your negative feedback.

More clearly, cratoon account represents paradice and I was in charge of the account when I worked for them from 2020 to mid-2021
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You were advised I would be tagging your account either neutral or negative but would allow you to post a reply to address the points. What you wrote back was not worth writing. To a degree it was almost typical naim027 style posting when he was not elaborating when information was requested. Where was the evidence in your post that was defending your position? You provided none.

I have decided to give your "John Abraham" account a negative tag however if you come back with something more believable I will consider removing/revising my feedback and until/unless then the red tag will stay.

What evidence will you submit to back up this claim?
I guess all evidence (Paradice staff) is public. Whoever played on that platform from 2020 to Mid 2021 knows "Agent_John" very well.

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In your reply do not forget to explain exactly your response to the following:

1- I was selling my Bitcoin for USD.
2- Same reason. There is no reason to withdraw the funds to my wallet and then sell it while I can send funds directly to his wallet for free. Withdraw from Whirlwind is free.
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You have nothing else to say except this. Do you live in the same country of 'naim027'? How 'naim027' sent you the USD? Can you show the proof of your conversation regarding those transactions? Why are you sending BTC to 'naim027' address from the whirlwind.money mixer after the 6th round payment?
I don't think I should tell where I am from as it triggers my privacy. In fact, all your questions triggered my privacy. I am sending him BTC for USD. I saw you have posted a couple of times on their ANN. If you are a player on that platform, you might have seen me there.

What evidence will you submit to back up this claim?
I guess all evidence (Paradice staff) is public. Whoever played on that platform from 2020 to Mid 2021 knows "Agent_John" very well.

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In your reply do not forget to explain exactly your response to the following:

1- I was selling my Bitcoin for USD.
2- Same reason. There is no reason to withdraw the funds to my wallet and then sell it while I can send funds directly to his wallet for free. Withdraw from Whirlwind is free.
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