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legendary
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considering there are 169 million people in your country?
Your country? I did not say I was from Bangladesh.
I assumed it:
Is this why you deleted your only post on the local board?
I don't know people who learn Bengali for fun, hence the assumption.

I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.
If someone would wrongly accuse me, I'd want to clear my name. Your response makes me think you can't do that.
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Your country? I did not say I was from Bangladesh. I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.
Is anybody really that interested now after the evasive conduct shown by you in this thread?

I don't have many things to share. Most of the evidence is public. Suppose someone does their research with a positive mind. They will figure it out.
Well, that sounds very much like something naim027 would write rather than simply post links without having to add to the drama.

@John Abraham, Well, just as Jollygood has said, strange things have happened here and it's even happening, but just that some people still have a carcass well hidden in their cupboard, which can be opened one day. ~snip~

There is this saying in my place that goes like this: "When one finger is stained with oil, it spreads to all the five fingers." ~snip~

To me, this is no coincidence. "When one finger touches oil, it spreads across the remaining four fingers." ~snip~
The most important thing here thing here is that John Abraham has chosen to be very selective when posting in this thread. First he chose to not over elaborate when questions were asked keeping answers limited and then he chose to do the same when the opportunity to clear his name arose again.

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considering there are 169 million people in your country?
Your country? I did not say I was from Bangladesh. I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.
My man, what kind of answer is that?
You are being accused or being an alternative account of someone which has been caught red-handed cheating the rules of the forum and even deceiving important members of this community. Those evasive answers won't help your case.

If I was being accused of the same things you are being accused of, I would be as transparent as possible, say where I am from what I actually did, why I sent the money and even send all kinds of credible evidence to reputable members of this place, ect. For the sake of your own reputation.  Roll Eyes

Does not make sense.
That is his reply and for him that is supposed to make sense because it is designed to misdirect people who are trying to look in to his activities in the forum. You are absolutely correct, he is being accused yet his answers remain evasive and to a degree they are somewhat condescending too.
legendary
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considering there are 169 million people in your country?
Your country? I did not say I was from Bangladesh. I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.


My man, what kind of answer is that?
You are being accused or being an alternative account of someone which has been caught red-handed cheating the rules of the forum and even deceiving important members of this community. Those evasive answers won't help your case.

If I was being accused of the same things you are being accused of, I would be as transparent as possible, say where I am from what I actually did, why I sent the money and even send all kinds of credible evidence to reputable members of this place, ect. For the sake of your own reputation.  Roll Eyes

Does not make sense.

hero member
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At this point I am already doubting whether all of these will be his alts, due to my previous post in which I have edited to add an analysis of the accounts. If there was one who was caught cheating in the CM campaign and managed 4 alts, of which with 3 he used to make 50 posts a week, if I remember correctly, why wouldn't naim027 be able to manage 6, 7 or 8 alts when most campaigns pay for 25?
If we talk about the possibility someone might able to control many alts, it's possible. But I did a blind checking on both LDL and John Abraham profile, mostly about what both of them have doing in this forum, however it doesn't convince me to say they're alts. I'm not yet go in deeper about both of the accounts and I would be more happy if I was wrong.

You have nothing else to say except this. Do you live in the same country of 'naim027'? How 'naim027' sent you the USD? Can you show the proof of your conversation regarding those transactions? Why are you sending BTC to 'naim027' address from the whirlwind.money mixer after the 6th round payment?
Let's not forget with the past couple months case where someone using mod WhatsApp in order to convince everyone if his story was true.
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Your country? I did not say I was from Bangladesh. I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.

The country isn't important in your case because you can also be from India if I'm not wrong. An Indian actor has same exact name as yours, and that's why you can also be from India. But, the real issue is not your location the real issue is that you sent Bitcoin to naim027's wallet who was banned from the forum. I'm not sure how but I have read many of your replies and considered you very smart in my mind before finding this post, but now I feel strange to know that how someone with such smartness could send his/her Bitcoin payment to a user's wallet who has been tagged by many reputed members of the forum.

I'm not against you or anyone, but unfortunately this time the OP has found the transactions and other users are also sure that you are naim027 alt-account. If you weren't naim027 then you would never send Bitcoin to that guy who was tagged by reputed members for his wrong activities. even someone with little understanding of the things would never ever send Bitcoin to someone's wallet who was banned in this forum and was red-tagged by reputed members of the forum.

I won't say anything more, but if you're innocent then you will get your previous respect from the forum members, but if the users confirm that you're somehow related to naim027 then I'm sorry to say that you'll not be accepted by this community anymore. In this forum, someone who has done ban evasion, will never be accepted, and this time fingers are pointed towards you. If you can prove your self and share as much evidence as you possibly can to prove your claim that you were just sending Bitcoin to the account for trading purpose only.
legendary
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You are right, indeed. He always clears the telegram chat after the successful trade. According to him, Bitcoin and crypto trading is banned there, and he doesn't want to keep any evidence. I never felt I should take any screenshots.
I have advised you that it is only necessary to prove a few things instead of beating around the bush. Everything you say will not be believed because you are not presenting any evidence other than just further complicating your problem. If @Naim027 delete the chat because bitcoin is not legal in his country - then what about you? Do you also have the same idea and delete all the chats?

I have one screenshot I took a few months ago, which I can give you if you want.
You can prove it here - everyone will judge for himself the truth.

I'm not attacking you just because you made a bitcoin transaction with Naim027 - which basically happened outside of the forum. But considering that Naim027 is a user who has a bad reputation on the forum, so anyone who comes into direct contact with his wallet will be suspected of being an alt. You didn't even engage escrow when transaction with him [especially his bad reputation] and you likely have some things in common with him - so to defend yourself and your reputation, prove publicly that you are not alt Naim027.
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Everyone will say it is multi account. But it could also be that @John Abraham sold the bitcoins he got to @naim027. I cannot say exactly what is right here, but there are senior members here who will analyze the judgment and decide what is right.

After reading both the OP and the comments of other members, I don't think you really find any good evidence or reason that justifies that John Abraham is not lying.

If you read the OP correctly, then you should ask yourself one question: why did John Abraham send his three-week payment of Yomixer campaign to Naim027? If we agree that it's just a mere P2P transaction for the exchange of Bitcoin to USDT, as Abraham has said, then why did Naim027's wallet start receiving signature payments of John Abraham's of whirlwind.money campaign? That's the question you should ask yourself. If it was just a normal P2P transaction between there two, John can't assign naim027 wallet to his signature payment.


@John Abraham, Well, just as Jollygood has said, strange things have happened here and it's even happening, but just that some people still have a carcass well hidden in their cupboard, which can be opened one day. I must say that you are also a member here whom I admire their posting style, but for this drama here, I am short on words. I have been reading this thread carefully, and I saw that the OP here, asked you to provide a proof of your conversation with Naim027 before your first Bitcoin transaction interaction with his wallet, which was the 3-week payment you received from the Yo!mixer campaign, but you have not provided any proof of your chart with him. It's never too long for you not to have the conversation between the both of you, but where is it? For you to say that those your conversation with him via telegram has been deleted by him, is not a very convincing excuse.

I understand that you are selling your Bitcoin to Naim027, but the part I feel so pitiable for you, is why naim027 wallet receives payment for the current signature you had on your account. It doesn't look like you are just selling your Bitcoin to him; otherwise, you will not use his wallet as a replacement for yours to receive your signature payment. For goodness sake, if you are receiving about $120 worth of Bitcoin every week, then what is just a $1 or $2 fee that you cannot spear?

There is this saying in my place that goes like this: "When one finger is stained with oil, it spreads to all the five fingers."

Knowing that Naim027 did not have a clear reputation on this forum because I checked his account and saw he had about 12 tages, you should have been very careful and exempt yourself from interacting with such a user, knowing that if noticed on the forum, it will also tarnish your reputation here. You are more experienced than me, so I believe you should know better than I do.

Like myself, I will even be extremely careful if dealing with any account that has a very bad reputation because I know that since the person is not trusted, it can also affect my reputation in one way or another, and that's why I believe that Naim027 is still your alt account because, if it were not, you would not have to deal with such an account because you know it will affect your reputation if noticed, and you wouldn't want any other users with bad reputations to destroy your own reputation.

To me, this is no coincidence. "When one finger touches oil, it spreads across the remaining four fingers."
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The transactions you are seeing are nothing but selling my Bitcoin to him for USD. I never thought that would make me his alternative account, LOL.
You have nothing else to say except this. Do you live in the same country of 'naim027'? How 'naim027' sent you the USD? Can you show the proof of your conversation regarding those transactions? Why are you sending BTC to 'naim027' address from the whirlwind.money mixer after the 6th round payment?
I'm not very fond of asking users for private data, but if John Abraham isn't lying, this would be a good start to prove it.
I already explained this. I sold my BTC for Paypal. The reason I did not take the withdrawal to my address; instead, I sent it to Naim; At first- it would cost me transaction fees. Withdraw from Whirlwind is free. So I sent him directly to his address. If you look carefully, I did not sell all my BTC every week. Every week I get around 0.0045 BTC. Sometimes I sold 0.0025 and sometimes 0.0035. The rest I took to my own Binance. The reason I did not take it to my trust wallet is this;

Well, I didn't know that. Trust Wallet claims they are open-source wallet software. I don't know how to verify it. I should stop using Trust Wallet.
Have a read of my post here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61049268
I did not know that Trust Wallet is a closed-source wallet. After this post from o_e_l_e_o, I decided not to use Trust wallet. So I transferred the rest to my Binance wallet and sold it for cash.

Naim027 and I worked together for a long time, from 2020 to mid-2021, for a casino.
What are the odds,
Don't trust. Verify! Did you see my previous response?  I've made some posts from the Paradice account where I mentioned my name, and those are non edited posts;

Let me know your thoughts!

Regards,
John.

Hello!
It's John from Paradice team
We're checking your information for a reply

However, You are always free to contact them to verify what I am saying. Either via Ticket; Live Support or their forum account

I'm not very fond of asking users for private data, but if John Abraham isn't lying, this would be a good start to prove it.
I can vouch for LoyceV here. John Abraham can send the proofs to LoyceV if he has no issue with trusting him. I believe LoyceV won't abuse any private info.
I don't have many things to share. Most of the evidence is public. Suppose someone does their research with a positive mind. They will figure it out.
legendary
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I couldn't find out any connection between those users by observing their Bitcoin address transaction. Maybe they aren't connected. Otherwise, we have to look into some other facts in order to find the connection.

LDL is another one that smells very bad, because apart from the accusation of wanting to sell an account mentioned before, he also follows the same pattern: WO thread where he gets merits, pizza baking contest and local Bangladeshi forum.
I'm not sure whether 'LDL' is connected with 'naim027' or not. But he knows it very well that how to get merits easily. He had suggested other forum members to participate in Pizza bake-off contest to receive merits for rank up.

আপনারা দুজন পিজ্জা কম্পিটিশনে অংশগ্রহণ করলেই আল্লাহ ভরসা হিরো মেম্বার হয়ে যাবেন ইনশাআল্লাহ।
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It was that strange thing which attracted my attention while the case with LDL. He has a couple deleted posts in Italian. Well, I thought anyone can speak several languages so it looks strange but not too strange.
But it is strange if a user make posts in multiple local language board and delete them. LDL has also made a post in the local board of Indonesia, and this post is deleted too.


I post on the Italian board too. I might be Italian, I Might not be Italian.
You aren't from Italy as you have mentioned this in your post, which gives a clear hint that you don't know the Italian language.

Disclaimer: ho scritto il post utilizzando un traduttore.
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The question doesn't make sense. I got PayPal for my Bitcoin.
Really! The services of PayPal aren't available in Bangladesh yet. How both of you are dealing through PayPal despite being a citizen of Bangladesh?
legendary
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The transactions you are seeing are nothing but selling my Bitcoin to him for USD. I never thought that would make me his alternative account, LOL.
You have nothing else to say except this. Do you live in the same country of 'naim027'? How 'naim027' sent you the USD? Can you show the proof of your conversation regarding those transactions? Why are you sending BTC to 'naim027' address from the whirlwind.money mixer after the 6th round payment?
I'm not very fond of asking users for private data, but if John Abraham isn't lying, this would be a good start to prove it.

Based on screenshots?

It will be difficult to verify any data, especially if Paypal is involved.

And also if it is based on screenshots. If I recall correctly you said yourself that you can trust screenshots only if you trust the user.

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...It's even more baffling that...

He can continue blah blah blahing but there is a scientific principle very suitable for these cases, Ockam's razor: the simplest explanation is the most likely one.
legendary
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Keep the suspense for yourself and the remaining alt-accounts because people in this thread were expecting some sort of valid defence on your part but the more we read about your evasive posts it becomes less interesting to waste more time on the matter.

Writing walls of text in an attempt to try avoiding the obvious is something that will not help you.

So, you have nothing to defend yourself! 'naim027' is from Bangladesh. And you had also made a post in the local thread of Bangladesh. But the post isn't available now as you have deleted it. Maybe you did it for your privacy Tongue.
I might be from Bangladesh. I might not be from Bangladesh. I post on the Italian board too. I might be Italian, I Might not be Italian.
legendary
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I can vouch for LoyceV here. John Abraham can send the proofs to LoyceV if he has no issue with trusting him. I believe LoyceV won't abuse any private info.
It will be difficult to verify any data, especially if Paypal is involved.
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So, you are telling me since I have a Binance account, I have to send money to my Binance for PayPal?
I am not the one who will choose where a buyer will receive their crypto.

You can. But as I said before, it doesn't make much sense.

Allow me to reiterate a crucial point that I mentioned earlier. Despite your claims of actively using Binance to "trade with your locals," the blockchain data clearly shows that there is not a single transaction from your publicly known wallet address to Binance, except for a couple of transactions to naim027's deposit address.

It's even more baffling that you would choose to send your payouts from the Whirlwind mixer to someone else's Binance deposit address, claiming that it's to save on fees. This doesn't quite add up, considering that internal transactions on the Binance platform are free of charge. So, why go through the hassle and potential risks of involving another person's deposit address when you could easily make the transfer within the Binance platform itself without incurring any fees? It's a puzzling choice, to say the least.

I'm sorry, but I remain unconvinced by your statements thus far. You haven't presented any substantial evidence to support your story. Additionally, the fact that you also work as a casino representative and support staff, just like naim027, only further fuels the suspicion that you could be one and the same person. As LoyceV rightly pointed out, the odds of this coincidence are quite remarkable.
legendary
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I might be from Bangladesh. I might not be from Bangladesh. I post on the Italian board too. I might be Italian, I Might not be Italian.

It was that strange thing which attracted my attention while the case with LDL. He has a couple deleted posts in Italian. Well, I thought anyone can speak several languages so it looks strange but not too strange. And what do we see now? You both speak Bangla, English and Italian, you are both mentioned in this topic as possibly alt accounts. I don't blame anyone in anything, but the number of coincidences is growing.
legendary
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Basically, it makes me feel anyone who earns Merit and uses that board could be an alt account.
In the last one or two years, I always wanted to share most of my smerits with the local board. I haven't counted how many smerits I have shared there but I can assume most of them were. Does that make me alt of them  Cheesy Well, I wanted to encourage quality posts on the local thread. There are a few newbie accounts that are popping up every day almost. Maybe some of them are alts as I can sometimes see similarities in posts but that alone doesn't prove anything, and I don't have a lot of time to investigate them further. However, it's not only Bangladesh, there are a lot of other nations from where people are abusing a lot of alts. We have seen a member with more than 50 accounts.

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I'm not very fond of asking users for private data, but if John Abraham isn't lying, this would be a good start to prove it.
I can vouch for LoyceV here. John Abraham can send the proofs to LoyceV if he has no issue with trusting him. I believe LoyceV won't abuse any private info.
legendary
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In my opinion, it would be reasonable to assume naim027 is still around here with some of his multiple accounts which we do not know about.
I've been wondering for a long time: what are the odds so many users who all write on the same local board (Bangladesh) are more or less similar in the way they post? Basically, it makes me feel anyone who earns Merit and uses that board could be an alt account. But since all I had was my gut feeling, I had nothing to go on and didn't really want to Ignore an entire country.

One thing I admire about naim027 is his ability to build up accounts very fast and attract as many as possible merits within a short time.
If I check John Abraham's Merit history, I see many WO-posts, Pizza bake-off contest posts and a few rounds of post reviews from The Sceptical Chymist. It could be a real normal user, but it could also be a very familiar pattern of posting for Merits.

The transactions you are seeing are nothing but selling my Bitcoin to him for USD. I never thought that would make me his alternative account, LOL.
You have nothing else to say except this. Do you live in the same country of 'naim027'? How 'naim027' sent you the USD? Can you show the proof of your conversation regarding those transactions? Why are you sending BTC to 'naim027' address from the whirlwind.money mixer after the 6th round payment?
I'm not very fond of asking users for private data, but if John Abraham isn't lying, this would be a good start to prove it.

Naim027 and I worked together for a long time, from 2020 to mid-2021, for a casino.
What are the odds, considering there are 169 million people in your country?

I don't think I should tell where I am from as it triggers my privacy.
Is this why you deleted your only post on the local board?
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So, you have nothing to defend yourself! 'naim027' is from Bangladesh. And you had also made a post in the local thread of Bangladesh. But the post isn't available now as you have deleted it. Maybe you did it for your privacy Tongue.
I might be from Bangladesh. I might not be from Bangladesh. I post on the Italian board too. I might be Italian, I Might not be Italian.

WTF, dude?! You can't really be that stupid?
Look. I left Paradice.in mid 2021. I no longer have contact with them. Sil3ntS0ul worked for them till April 2023. After I leave Paradice, Sil3ntS0ul and Seva take over the Paradice representative account. As far as i know, currently, The account is managed by their marketing manager Seva. Paradice.in sponsored 2mBTC prize pool in pumpkin carving contest. I proposed sponsoring the contest to Sil3ntS0ul, who handled the account back then. So, he decides to whom to send merits. I wasn't the only person who got merit from the Paradice account on the pumpkin carving contest. But I got the most. Maybe because he knows me?

If you can prove that - then it's very likely that the accusations about you in this thread can going in different direction. But you don't even prove anything here other than just pretending that the two of you are partners on one of the sites, that's too convoluted for your defense. I believe that every trading transaction between two users has a chat history about fees, price and how to do it, it's not as easy as you send it to the exchange. So I'm sure you do too before the transaction - even the last one, then things could be different.
You are right, indeed. He always clears the telegram chat after the successful trade. According to him, Bitcoin and crypto trading is banned there, and he doesn't want to keep any evidence. I never felt I should take any screenshots. I have one screenshot I took a few months ago, which I can give you if you want. However, don't you think I have submitted enough evidence to prove that I am an ex-staff of their platform? Those posts I made are not edited. If someone still doubts that I (John) and Sil3ntS0ul are the same people. Why don't they ask their representative account or go to the website and ask their Live support if they had an ex-staff named Agent_John?

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So, you are telling me since I have a Binance account, I have to send money to my Binance for PayPal?
I am not the one who will choose where a buyer will receive their crypto.

Can we have some words from the person who is behind the account Cratoon now?
As far as I know, Currently the account is under their marketing manager Seva. Someone can send him a message in the forum. But, I don't think Seva has any idea whom Sil3ntS0ul sent merits or knows all how the forum works.

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@John Abraham, do you have something to show us as suggested by _BlackStar?
I explained above. I can send you too if you want to see it. I got some old screenshots where we both were testing new features and reporting bugs on stage in a telegram group before it launch for production.
legendary
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I am a Bangladeshi native. Moreover, I have many discussions on local board. You can investigate.

I already knew that. Do you know what a sarcasm is?
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The last three accounts, Learn Bitcoin, Bitcoin_people and Dimitri94 follow the typical naim027 pattern, posts in the local Bangladesh forum, pizza contest and WO thread where he knows how to get merits.
I certainly support all your investigation but please ensure that no innocent person should be harmed. Kindly observe my post patterns carefully and necessary all others issues.

Hello Dimitri94. I know you live in Vladivostok, but you wouldn't happen to have a brother who lives in Bangladesh and has selflessly gifted you the account?
I am a Bangladeshi native. Moreover, I have many discussions on local board. You can investigate.
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Oh good lord!!!!

That's a banger Mahdirakib....well done!!!

Can't wait for another Hello World || Welcome back again! thread.
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