Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers

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Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

if the manager is trusted im not afraid if he hold the tokens for the bounty, but if the manager is newbie and not trusted i will not allow him to hold the bounty tokens, cause there are already cases where the manager run away together with the bounty tokens after the campaign.

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Quote from: rudin123 on December 07, 2019, 01:59:27 AM

Managers should indeed hold bounty hunters' tokens and distribute them, but now there are rarely such projects that want to send them first to the manager. I see all the prizes that I participated in by the project team themselves who sent the bounty tokens, and the manager only counted the work of the bount hunter.

that is the sad truth on bounty . we rarely see a manager hold the funds ( or escrow atleast ) but the owner wants the project to finish first before he lend out the payments . many hunters still agree with this kind of rule though even if its risky and the chances of thier work to be wasted is high because they are the ones that needed the job anyways so why will they be against with the rules' ? unless if they are picky then they will just ignore these kind of bounties

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It depends on how they're going to do the payment and distribution. We can't put all the blame to bounty managers because in some cases, even managers end up being unpaid. The entire team including the developers plays a vital role in the distribution of payments. It's just necessary that we have to look for trusted bounty managers and legit projects so we'll have an assurance of being paid accordingly.

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Managers should indeed hold bounty hunters' tokens and distribute them, but now there are rarely such projects that want to send them first to the manager. I see all the prizes that I participated in by the project team themselves who sent the bounty tokens, and the manager only counted the work of the bount hunter.

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In my opinion, if the team of a crypto project let's the Bounty Manager to organize their Bounty campaign, they need to use him as an escrow and to send him tokens before the start of the campaign.

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In a time where a lot of bounties turned out to be a scam sometimes you don’t which to believe and join. As you don’t really know much about how reliable are the people behind these projects then you will resort to the bounty manager hired by the team of the project. Reputable members would surely be a good impression since there are bounty mangers who are quiet strict on what bounties to manage by going through extreme measures to ensure that it would not be waste of his time and his bounty participants.

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The above highlighted issue facing bounty hunters, managers and team have made many hunters to have issues with the manager(s). I can remember PMing a manager asking when we will be paid and said "it's not him that will pay rather the team". Till date we were not paid.

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Quote from: Gotumoot on December 04, 2019, 12:00:04 PM

The bounty managers should actually hold the funds to give to bounty hunters when the campaign is over.

This is also mentioned in another theread, which should also be half of the bounty rewards based on ethereum or bitcoin so that the bounty hunter's time, sacrifice and effort are worth it.

The problem is when you can't dictate the developer. Okay, let's say you will create an agreement between the manager and the develoepers but the developers are so greedy and they don't wannt to send the money even to the trusted manager. So many developers are doing it right now.

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It is possible that the bounty Manager will be in cahoots with the project team. Such cases have already been. Don't worry about it. Because our complaints will not lead to anything good. We should stop complaining.

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The dirty bounty campaigns don't pay the bounty hunters with blaming the market conditions but the market condition is the excuse for filtering the bounty hunters. I doubt the bull market will show the good sides of the bounty campaigns, the situation will be stable for a long time. I also prefer to join the reliable bounty campaigns because of the payment issues at the end of the campaigns or after the token sale.

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Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

first of all, you must to know that every deal with some project has a different condition. in some projects, maybe BM can make a deal with the team for doing ESCROW (Bounty Payment) to the third party to avoid scam in the future. but sometimes, the team don't want to do an escrow and want to handle their payment with their own. at least, the main duty of Bounty manager is managing and controlling bounty participants and make sure they do their task in every campaign.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on December 04, 2019, 12:15:38 PM

My preferred bounty hunting campaign is the ones which is escrowed and held by a reputable member of this forum, a hunter will be on a safer side ie the possibility of cheating a hunter if the fund is held by the manager is zero, the decision must be made by the hunter thus by doing so is at the hunter's risk,
its sad to hear touching stories of bounty hunters not being paid after many days and months of promoting a project this is some of the risk involved in bounty campaigns.

Very good consideration. That can minimize the recent drama that often happens where bounty hunters often become victims, it could be because of the allocation that was cut, the delay in distribution, tokens or coins locked, etc. Before joining a bounty, we must also prepare mentally to face such a bitter reality.

Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?
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Your bad experience with this type of payment cannot be generalized. I participated in many bounty projects whose distribution was handled by the developer but still gave the bounty manager the full right even though there were a few dramas, yes we know that the market situation was not good, so it could be tolerated.
But never mind, that way you understand that it is one form of risk in joining bounties, right?
My advice, do not make conclusions like that, it really depends on each project, can not be generalized, next time choose a project with more depth, choose a reliable BM, and prepare mentally stronger.

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Quote from: yangongear on December 03, 2019, 11:08:17 AM

Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

Well, It is all your decision. There are many bounties out there that use escrow, like the bounties of yahoo62278. But it is a very small number. Most bounties have terms and conditions as the project team makes the final decision, and when you participate you have to agree with it. So you can not ask for the above.

My preferred bounty hunting campaign is the ones which is escrowed and held by a reputable member of this forum, a hunter will be on a safer side ie the possibility of cheating a hunter if the fund is held by the manager is zero, the decision must be made by the hunter thus by doing so is at the hunter's risk,
its sad to hear touching stories of bounty hunters not being paid after many days and months of promoting a project this is some of the risk involved in bounty campaigns.

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Its good to follow top bounty managers on this forum to avoid not getting paid but sometimes newbie accounts will introduce better bounties, its all about risks you know

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The bounty managers should actually hold the funds to give to bounty hunters when the campaign is over.

This is also mentioned in another theread, which should also be half of the bounty rewards based on ethereum or bitcoin so that the bounty hunter's time, sacrifice and effort are worth it.

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It happens that the bounty manager is in agreement with the project team and together they deceive the bounty hunters. But to be honest, it all depends on the conditions under which the bounty manager works. Sometimes he is not responsible for counting tokens and therefore is not responsible for the fact that you are not paid for the work.

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Pre-paid campaigns should really become a new standard of bounty hunting. Escrow + reputable bounty managers, the ones that would have a lower risk of fleeing with the funds. It would be doable but status quo is just so much simpler and easier so I doubt it will change any time soon.

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Quote from: setialovers on December 03, 2019, 08:04:14 PM

Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

From what I know, the bounty manager has no right to pay hunters but only runs a bounty campaign. The Bounty manager cannot function as IEO does because the bounty manager does not hold a payment escrow

It is true, it is not part of their job as a bounty manager, but there are times that the project gives the right to the bounty manager to hold the funds for the bounty campaign. It only happen if the bounty manager is only reputable and trusted enough to do the job.

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Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

If it's possible the bounty manager should be the one to hold if the manager is a freelancer, he can protect the integrity of the distribution because his reputation is at stake here, if he fails to deliver the bounty in a fair manner.

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Quote from: NoirSuccubus on December 03, 2019, 01:11:43 PM

It depends from a project to another project. I have worked with some bounty hunting in which manager was responsible for giving and distributing the bounty while there are those in which manager just has to keep record and track of the spread sheet for the team.

Your are so lucky person dude. I have worked with several managers and they were getting the crap project. As far as i know even some trusted ico didn't pay the bounty hunters with the correct amount that already agreed when the campaign has started. Manager is responsible to calculate and manage the campaign

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