Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers - page 4.

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Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

I don't know exactly what you meant by that, but I'm pretty sure that's what they do. What the projects *don't* do is, one, pay in bitcoin or Eth and two, put funds into escrow before the bounty starts. I think that's why so many bounty hunters get scammed.

If they didn't pay in tokens, the project owners would be able to escrow funds and thus ensure that the hunters got paid and there wouldn't be reason to worry. As it stands, the bounty hunters do all of this work on spec, all up front, and then they hope they get paid in the end. That's one of the big issues. These bounties aren't run like typical signature campaigns that you see in the services section. I don't think I've ever seen any of those scam their participants at the end of the campaign. They usually get paid weekly as well.

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Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

Yes, but also reputable bounty manager is not a warranty that you will receive your tokens.
Also in last days I do not see problem that tokens are not paid to bounty hunters, but the problem is that the tokens do not have value.

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Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

It was already done in the past but the project turned out to be a scam, while the tokens are worthless after it. I wasn't even added to the exchange so the cycle of all these scams are still going on up to this day.

Bounty hunters will start to trust when there is someone who will serve as escrow but then tokens are still going to be worthless when its not on the exchange. This is why its best for them to just pay BTC or ETH.

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correct, most of the bounty managers only do a calculation and monitor the participants, but most of the events that exist are to always use escrow but many projects do not agree with these rules so they will only hire bounty managers who have no reputation in the forum. so to anticipate being hit by a scam project is about seeing who the manager is and whether the funds or prizes have been saved in escrow or not, so at least the bounty participants will be comfortable and no longer need to bother researching every existing project

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Its not that simple as you feel, there are allot of factors which play in between a team and a bounty manager. An escrow might help interfacing everything with a neutral perspective but these practices will need more investment which the companies wont like to pay. There are some very good managers like Yahoo who are transparent and answer most of the queries.

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Quote from: valuater on December 02, 2019, 12:15:35 PM

I think it's a bit true that it causes bounty hunters not to receive their rewards, but in the past I often saw several bounty managers escort rewards for bounty participants and the surprise happened because bounty manager corrupted by manipulating spreadsheets as if it were a participant's account even though it was is a fake account created by them and from there they took a lot of profit and the great thing was that it was an altseason so I think they got hundreds of thousands of dollars easily, and because of this I think we go back to old tradition of waiting for the team of project to share rewards but I think if we choose the right project we will still get paid.

Many bounty campaign manager can't believe with their project after ICO success and have distributed reward for bounty campaign participants, I found one bounty campaign manager always delay distributing bounty reward more than three months after bounty campaign ended, from finishing spreadsheet take more than one month until distributed coin always delay.

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the most important thing is that the bounty manager also receives a reward in the tokens of his project. in this case, he will also be interested in the project living and developing

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I think it's a bit true that it causes bounty hunters not to receive their rewards, but in the past I often saw several bounty managers escort rewards for bounty participants and the surprise happened because bounty manager corrupted by manipulating spreadsheets as if it were a participant's account even though it was is a fake account created by them and from there they took a lot of profit and the great thing was that it was an altseason so I think they got hundreds of thousands of dollars easily, and because of this I think we go back to old tradition of waiting for the team of project to share rewards but I think if we choose the right project we will still get paid.

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Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

There are a lot of projects that their bounty managers are part of the project, so the team will be the one to decide about the distribution, and when it comes to an independent manager, it depends on the arrangement, but it's better if the bounty manager has a good reputation and the arrangement is he is the one to hold the tokens that he will be distributing, it's fairer to bounty hunters because they are sure to receive the bounty.

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The task of the bounty manager is to successfully run the bounty campaign. Token delivery depends on the agreement with the manager and the team of the project. But in general, the tokens are probably distributed by the team.

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Actually it depends on the situation on what would be the agreement of the bounty manager and the project team. If the project team or the project developer that the bounty manager is the one who will just manage the bounty hunters on checking if the bounty hunters that he/she allowed to joined on the bounty campaign are doing good or the bounty hunters are just keep messing around the project, or the bounty manager will be the one who will give the payment, stakes, tokens to the bounty hunters who are participating to the bounty campaign. In my years here in crypto I experience a lot of that who are the bounty managers are just the person who checks the operation of the bounty project.

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I think that the ideal way to distribute rewards is when the project team sends tokens to the guarant before the start of the bounty campaign and the guarant is not the bounty manager, but just an independent person. After the work is done, the bounty managers send the spreadsheet to the team and the team instructs the guarant to begin distributing the reward

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Quote from: FireBallex on December 02, 2019, 10:33:21 AM

Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

Some bounty managers can't be trusted that is why project teams don't want to send all tokens for bounty manager to hold and distribute, we all know how much a bounty pool always worth, thousands of dollars to millions

There's really very few bounty managers that could be trusted, everyone here in our forum really wanted to earn a lot, but for some they are doing something that will make them rich in just a blink of an eye, since they are the manager, they are taking this for granted as they know that they are the ones controlling on it. But still I believe that there's a lot of managers out there that can still be trusted.

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Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

if I remember correctly before 2018, the distribution was carried out by the manager and the project team never used their team as a manager in the bounty program but everything changed after the number of managers' performance that was not correct and often cheating then therefore now the project teams had do not entrust the distribution carried out by managers outside the team.
there are good and bad things, good at reducing cheating by incompetent managers, the bad thing is, often not paid and is not responsible because they are directly handled by the project itself.
The last bounty manager I participated in and really believed was at the bountyhive portal, because I think everything was handled by the bountyhive team, everything was paid even though not all of them (the project) were successful but still paid.

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Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

Some bounty managers can't be trusted that is why project teams don't want to send all tokens for bounty manager to hold and distribute, we all know how much a bounty pool always worth, thousands of dollars to millions

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on December 02, 2019, 08:54:42 AM

We have nothing to do by that because there are also some projects that being escrowed already the fancy token but it also ends up nothing when it is not listing to exchange. The distributions were there but dont have value in the market. It seems useless if they are all like this. The only solution is they will pay through dollars not just by their fancy tokens. Or they will pay Ethereum as their fund collected. All projects that I joined last year, they are nonsense and no value.

Yeah right, even the tokens has been distributed but if the team behind didn't bothered to list the coin to any exchange there's nothing left for the bounty participants. The situations nowadays is really getting tougher, there's no other options but to continue trying your best looking fro the right team and project
to support and participate hoping for the best outcomes..

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The problem is bounty managers can cheat and project teams can cheat as well, Nestree teams was handed the spreadsheet after bounty ends but they never send my token yet few bounty hunters claim they got their, its vice versa

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I support the OP suggestion but it will be hard for manager to be fund account holder as bounty is concern because 95% of the bounty managers have what it takes to be manager, to be trusted with bounty fund which sometimes worth $ Million and the last time I checked most. bounty manager are always after their cut while the project owners won't want to pay for escrow services.

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Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

ICO's were complete mess ever since it started though it had a good run way back. Some bounty manager has become too greedy that they invalidated the bounty hunters effort to meet the requirements needed to recieve huge rewards. It usually takes up too long before ending because the marketcap is needed to be met or atleast near it. Whenever a bounty manager fails to pay back the bounty hunters, too much of their time gets wasted that's why I think it is way more better to join IEO's than ICO's today.

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Quote from: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 01:59:54 AM

I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?

+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams
+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends

Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team

You're absolutely right because a situation where the project team later run away with the bounty token does happen and we also have situations where the team discard the rules providing during their campaign. But, bounty manager to hold the bounty payment usually happen on the bounty host site and before it could really on the forum I believe forum police and bounty managers have to make such rules and regulations.

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