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Topic: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game - page 171. (Read 435360 times)

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slot machines tend to use the '97% payout' syntax, while table games e.g. craps/blackjack tend to use the '1% house edge' syntax.   I prefer the 1% house edge syntax, personally.

Will

I think when you're trying to disguise that your slot machine keeps 12% of wagered amount, saying "88% payout" does the trick.

If you're trying to advertise that the payout is good, "1% edge" looks better than "99% payout".

For example, comparing JD to SD:

* 99% vs. 98.1% makes them look similar - both close to 100%, but
* 1% vs. 1.9% makes it look like JD is about twice as good as SD

But maybe that's just me.
That's actually exactly why I suggested an A/B test - take out the "I think"s and the "maybe that's just me"s and go with what is demonstrably better for encouraging your customers to play (whichever that is.) I honestly don't know which is better. As for the wording for a potential test, maybe "99% player odds" or something. It doesn't have to be mathematically or semantically accurate, you're just doing marketing to get them in the door. You ever go ask for the house rules at a casino? They have them in these thick packets, and they've got all the legalese you'd ever want and more - but they don't give them to you unless you ask, because it's generally known among players what 99% means. You've got all the fine print laid out already - my suggestion is simply that you don't limit your marketing to the same legalese standard. Smiley
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You can always change your client seed to get the previous server seed
How can you change the client seed? Never found that option...

Hit randomize.
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Dooglus,
  You need to update the op with the current balances.

Indeed.

I just did so.  You'll see significant changes at the top end of the list from last week.
Well I figure Nakowa was the 4259 and he withdrew yesterday and deposited it all in some chinese bitcoin bank. Also, the top investor divested about 2k bitcoins.  However, seems it was partially offset by alot of the smaller investors increasing their investments.
legendary
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Dooglus,
  You need to update the op with the current balances.

Indeed.

I just did so.  You'll see significant changes at the top end of the list from last week.
legendary
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Except the filter in the accounts tab is amount risked, not amount gained/lost. Unless you are talking about the chat room bets, in which case that does seem to be amount gained/lost and your post is correct.

There are 2 filters for bet/risk size:

Only show bets from other players if they:
* risk at least *** BTC and
* win or lose at least *** BTC and [...]

Opps, I missed that. Sorry.
legendary
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Except the filter in the accounts tab is amount risked, not amount gained/lost. Unless you are talking about the chat room bets, in which case that does seem to be amount gained/lost and your post is correct.

There are 2 filters for bet/risk size:

Only show bets from other players if they:
* risk at least *** BTC and
* win or lose at least *** BTC and [...]
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Dooglus,
  You need to update the op with the current balances.
legendary
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Look at this:
Code:
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:15:06 betid: 92815409 lucky: 90.6999 target: <90.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:20:17 betid: 92823811 lucky: 98.7592 target: <95.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
[...]
How it can be so much rolls outside of 10-90 range and with same luck per user? Secret is not published, so can't check fairness.

Christina did not win a single 90% chance bet out of 33 tries?
Wow, almost impossible.

Here are all the 1 BTC bets from the 1st you showed to the 2nd.  A filter wasn't showing any of the wins because they were too small:

Code:
2013-08-28 03:15:05 #92815409: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:906999 profit:-1.00000000
2013-08-28 03:15:08 #92815480: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:548481 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:10 #92815546: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:688821 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:12 #92815598: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:499858 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:15 #92815680: 1 BTC @ 90% hi: lucky:983079 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:17 #92815732: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:845194 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:19 #92815804: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:626055 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:21 #92815842: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:327655 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:22 #92815885: 1 BTC @ 90% hi: lucky:116111 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:24 #92815932: 1 BTC @ 90% hi: lucky:182323 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:25 #92815974: 1 BTC @ 90% hi: lucky:763184 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:28 #92816034: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:622285 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:29 #92816081: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:852102 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:31 #92816125: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:756433 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:33 #92816189: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:338960 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:35 #92816240: 1 BTC @ 90% hi: lucky:526754 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:37 #92816297: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:228470 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:39 #92816349: 1 BTC @ 90% hi: lucky:622385 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:42 #92816437: 1 BTC @ 90% lo: lucky:140439 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:44 #92816490: 1 BTC @ 90% hi: lucky:270847 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:46 #92816554: 1 BTC @ 90% hi: lucky:247505 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:15:48 #92816606: 1 BTC @ 90% hi: lucky:503863 profit:0.10000000
2013-08-28 03:17:15 #92818941: 1 BTC @ 95% lo: lucky:378726 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:17:58 #92820149: 1 BTC @ 95% hi: lucky:311275 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:01 #92820235: 1 BTC @ 95% hi: lucky:842997 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:02 #92820287: 1 BTC @ 95% lo: lucky:733871 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:04 #92820324: 1 BTC @ 95% lo: lucky:723615 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:05 #92820358: 1 BTC @ 95% lo: lucky:488138 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:07 #92820421: 1 BTC @ 95% hi: lucky:758364 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:09 #92820466: 1 BTC @ 95% lo: lucky:257532 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:11 #92820540: 1 BTC @ 95% hi: lucky:80836 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:14 #92820602: 1 BTC @ 95% hi: lucky:539722 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:36 #92821039: 1 BTC @ 95% lo: lucky:74198 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:38 #92821102: 1 BTC @ 95% hi: lucky:323434 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:41 #92821169: 1 BTC @ 95% hi: lucky:597648 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:44 #92821284: 1 BTC @ 95% lo: lucky:213758 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:46 #92821350: 1 BTC @ 95% hi: lucky:639307 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:48 #92821401: 1 BTC @ 95% lo: lucky:746341 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:49 #92821435: 1 BTC @ 95% lo: lucky:660102 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:52 #92821502: 1 BTC @ 95% lo: lucky:358471 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:53 #92821547: 1 BTC @ 95% hi: lucky:347212 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:55 #92821588: 1 BTC @ 95% hi: lucky:84087 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:18:58 #92821677: 1 BTC @ 95% hi: lucky:98623 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:19:00 #92821740: 1 BTC @ 95% hi: lucky:737498 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:20:04 #92823457: 1 BTC @ 95% lo: lucky:374801 profit:0.04210526
2013-08-28 03:20:17 #92823811: 1 BTC @ 95% lo: lucky:987592 profit:-1.00000000
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Answer is almost certinly that you had a filter on - something like only showing profit/loss greater than 0.2 BTC.

When the user wins they only profit by 0.1 BTC or less so it doesn't show up - but when they lose they lose 1 BTC and yo usee it.

Same for the other guy below - except there he was betting at high odds so only his winning bets showed up not his losing ones.

Nothing strange is happening - just you're seeing only a small part of the results (due to a filter you set) and then mistakenly believing it's all the results.

Except the filter in the accounts tab is amount risked, not amount gained/lost. Unless you are talking about the chat room bets, in which case that does seem to be amount gained/lost and your post is correct.

Yeah, sorry guys - have win/loss filter 0.11, so win 0.1 isn't showing up. Fooled myself.
legendary
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Yes. Check consecutive bet ids individually. If you do not see consecutive nonces, then you are not seeing all the bets.

To change seeds, Randomize. Its at the top beside deposit and withdraw.
legendary
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Answer is almost certinly that you had a filter on - something like only showing profit/loss greater than 0.2 BTC.

When the user wins they only profit by 0.1 BTC or less so it doesn't show up - but when they lose they lose 1 BTC and yo usee it.

Same for the other guy below - except there he was betting at high odds so only his winning bets showed up not his losing ones.

Nothing strange is happening - just you're seeing only a small part of the results (due to a filter you set) and then mistakenly believing it's all the results.

Except the filter in the accounts tab is amount risked, not amount gained/lost. Unless you are talking about the chat room bets, in which case that does seem to be amount gained/lost and your post is correct.
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You can always change your client seed to get the previous server seed
How can you change the client seed? Never found that option...
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You can always change your client seed to get the previous server seed
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Look at this:
How it can be so much rolls outside of 10-90 range and with same luck per user? Secret is not published, so can't check fairness.
I want that secret, lol.
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Look at this:
Code:
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:15:06 betid: 92815409 lucky: 90.6999 target: <90.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:20:17 betid: 92823811 lucky: 98.7592 target: <95.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:20:27 betid: 92824092 lucky: 96.9241 target: <95.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:21:33 betid: 92825760 lucky: 04.4029 target: >04.9999 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:23:06 betid: 92828156 lucky: 98.1992 target: <95.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:24:05 betid: 92829715 lucky: 03.6291 target: >04.9999 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:24:30 betid: 92830274 lucky: 02.7218 target: >04.9999 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:25:06 betid: 92831248 lucky: 95.6332 target: <95.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:25:29 betid: 92831837 lucky: 02.7222 target: >04.9999 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:26:02 betid: 92832662 lucky: 99.9926 target: <95.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:26:19 betid: 92833071 lucky: 96.4261 target: <90.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:26:37 betid: 92833352 lucky: 99.0986 target: <90.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:27:11 betid: 92833941 lucky: 92.3438 target: <90.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:27:32 betid: 92834369 lucky: 95.0132 target: <90.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:27:38 betid: 92834517 lucky: 96.3805 target: <90.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:28:00 betid: 92834974 lucky: 04.5399 target: >09.9999 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:28:06 betid: 92835137 lucky: 01.3913 target: >09.9999 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:28:27 betid: 92835658 lucky: 09.3673 target: >09.9999 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:40:33 betid: 92856613 lucky: 99.9124 target: <95.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:50:30 betid: 92873501 lucky: 99.7091 target: <95.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:52:56 betid: 92877560 lucky: 98.3884 target: <95.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:53:03 betid: 92877735 lucky: 00.2374 target: >04.9999 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:55:01 betid: 92881069 lucky: 01.7131 target: >04.9999 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:55:32 betid: 92881918 lucky: 98.3093 target: <95.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:55:46 betid: 92882303 lucky: 95.1646 target: <95.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 07:56:04 betid: 92882778 lucky: 97.5701 target: <95.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.04210526x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 08:12:01 betid: 92906333 lucky: 08.8284 target: >09.9999 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 08:12:32 betid: 92906474 lucky: 99.2856 target: <90.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 08:12:40 betid: 92906550 lucky: 93.4175 target: <90.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 08:13:19 betid: 92906972 lucky: 04.8850 target: >09.9999 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 08:13:33 betid: 92907114 lucky: 01.3203 target: >09.9999 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 08:14:02 betid: 92907462 lucky: 96.1347 target: <90.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: christina (56748) date: 2013-08-28 08:14:10 betid: 92907563 lucky: 91.8527 target: <90.0000 bet: 1.00000000 payout: 1.1x profit: -1.00000000
user: octocoin (2421) date: 2013-08-28 08:38:03 betid: 92930408 lucky: 01.3481 target: <03.0000 bet: 0.00806720 payout: 33x profit: +0.25815040
user: octocoin (2421) date: 2013-08-28 08:38:21 betid: 92930852 lucky: 00.7883 target: <03.0000 bet: 0.01613440 payout: 33x profit: +0.51630080
user: octocoin (2421) date: 2013-08-28 08:41:09 betid: 92934638 lucky: 94.6695 target: >89.9999 bet: 0.01613440 payout: 9.9x profit: +0.14359616
user: octocoin (2421) date: 2013-08-28 08:41:10 betid: 92934665 lucky: 97.2002 target: >89.9999 bet: 0.01613440 payout: 9.9x profit: +0.14359616
user: octocoin (2421) date: 2013-08-28 08:41:15 betid: 92934785 lucky: 99.2084 target: >89.9999 bet: 0.01613440 payout: 9.9x profit: +0.14359616
user: octocoin (2421) date: 2013-08-28 08:41:20 betid: 92934898 lucky: 94.2368 target: >89.9999 bet: 0.01613440 payout: 9.9x profit: +0.14359616
user: octocoin (2421) date: 2013-08-28 08:41:20 betid: 92934910 lucky: 06.0043 target: <10.0000 bet: 0.01613440 payout: 9.9x profit: +0.14359616
user: octocoin (2421) date: 2013-08-28 08:41:21 betid: 92934915 lucky: 98.8157 target: >89.9999 bet: 0.01613440 payout: 9.9x profit: +0.14359616
user: octocoin (2421) date: 2013-08-28 08:41:24 betid: 92934994 lucky: 04.3757 target: <10.0000 bet: 0.01613440 payout: 9.9x profit: +0.14359616
How it can be so much rolls outside of 10-90 range and with same luck per user? Secret is not published, so can't check fairness.
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mechs:
Under OS X using Chrome (for me) your signature displays fine (though larger than others) unless I narrow the browser window, at which point it just cuts off whatever wont fit rather than scale size or start a new line. Im on a 1080p monitor.

As far as I can tell it will display fine when the browser is using 1280 lines or more (it just about displays properly on my built in macbook monitor (1280x800) when the window is full screen. Any narrower and it wont display properly (a lot of people are still on 1024x768 displays, or dont browse full screen).
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mechs: your signature doesn't fit on my screen properly.  I don't know if you changed the bbcode slightly, or why it happened.  Here's how it looks to me:

img

Maybe it's a result of the theme I'm using, and it looks fine to everyone else, I don't know.  But I've seen other people who have copied the signature code I made and their signatures look just like mine.

It also doesn't fit for me on the standard theme.
Odd, it shows up fine on my screen - I will make some changes
What is your horizontal screen resolution?
Does it still not show up well?

Still looks like crap to me, how is mine! XD
Tiny!
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mechs: your signature doesn't fit on my screen properly.  I don't know if you changed the bbcode slightly, or why it happened.  Here's how it looks to me:

img

Maybe it's a result of the theme I'm using, and it looks fine to everyone else, I don't know.  But I've seen other people who have copied the signature code I made and their signatures look just like mine.

It also doesn't fit for me on the standard theme.
Odd, it shows up fine on my screen - I will make some changes
What is your horizontal screen resolution?
Does it still not show up well?

Still looks like crap to me, how is mine! XD
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