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Topic: Just-Dice.com Relaunched! With CLAM! - page 2. (Read 11500 times)

legendary
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December 07, 2014, 03:42:41 PM
A word from doog would be reassuring at least. Not sure with the coin choice myself, but watch this space I guess..
legendary
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December 07, 2014, 03:36:25 PM
OP, do you know why is dooglus not answering to anything?

I have brought the thread to his attention, so we should be seeing him soon Smiley
member
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December 07, 2014, 03:35:23 PM
OP, do you know why is dooglus not answering to anything?
member
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December 07, 2014, 03:33:55 PM
Please show the algorithm for creating a clam address?

I got a BTC address with the private key and actually want to do the math to create a clam address.

Can moderators move this thread to the altcoin section? It's just about how to get CLAM...
sr. member
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December 07, 2014, 02:08:46 PM
Please show the algorithm for creating a clam address?

I got a BTC address with the private key and actually want to do the math to create a clam address.
legendary
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December 07, 2014, 01:34:02 PM
What @dooglus is doing is abusing people trusts. He is not saying anything in this forum but he is like trying to say:
"You trust JD ? You like me? You have to buy CLAM to play in JD". And then they(doog, BayAreaCoins ...) can dump their thousands of CLAMs at a high price.

If you notice, @BayAreaCoins is screaming "buy CLAM" everywhere. Why?
Don't be so much greedy, please...

a) There is no richlist available to my knowledge.  We have no idea how many people were privy to the inside information that Just-dice was going to solely feature clams and we have no idea how many coins the top holders have and/or what their intentions are for the coin either.
There is no need for richlist. Dooglus (probably) has most CLAMs (~400 BTC), and may be developers of coins too.

You were the best in this forum in my eyes Smiley
legendary
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December 07, 2014, 12:41:30 PM

b) People are being asked to copy and paste their private key into a PUBLIC chatroom.  It's not hard to believe that users will not understand the instructions, mistype and reveal their private keys openly with funds still inside of them.  This is not OK.  Dooglus seems to get away with it because he has a spotless record, but what if this becomes common practice in the bitcoin gaming scene?  Scamming gaming operators will have a field day!  Please be EXTREMELY cautious and protective with your private keys!!!!



Problems already been addressed about typos.

Priv keys are censored in public chat and private messaging.

All priv keys are told over n over n over to be empty prior.  Even if dooglus says he doesn't keep the information, so it would be a was to hack + should all be empty anyways.

Grab a priv key from www.Directory.io and try.
legendary
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December 07, 2014, 12:18:02 PM
Here are a few of my concerns:

a) There is no richlist available to my knowledge.  We have no idea how many people were privy to the inside information that Just-dice was going to solely feature clams and we have no idea how many coins the top holders have and/or what their intentions are for the coin either.

b) People are being asked to copy and paste their private key into a PUBLIC chatroom.  It's not hard to believe that users will not understand the instructions, mistype and reveal their private keys openly with funds still inside of them.  This is not OK.  Dooglus seems to get away with it because he has a spotless record, but what if this becomes common practice in the bitcoin gaming scene?  Scamming gaming operators will have a field day!  Please be EXTREMELY cautious and protective with your private keys!!!!

c) There is no way to tell at this moment what will happen when Clams inevitably gets paired with FIAT.  Will Just-dice close down and then it becomes a free for all sell off of clams?  How can we accurately speculate the stability of Clams?  The order book is extremely thin right now.  There are several hypothetical situations that do not play out well for users if they buy-in heavily into clams.

Final thoughts:

Just-dice has always been a great reputable site ran by a very competent and trustworthy operator (Dooglus), but I highly suggest that users do not gamble for high amounts of bitcoin value as there's many unanswered questions and high levels of risk.

If you want to play for fun, mess around with a trusted gaming site, and are not too concerned with financial risk, then by all means I think Just-dice is one of the best places for this.



You are right there are many open questions. Especially what happens when the site closes, is there an exit strategy?
If dooglus got his hands on a large amount of CLAM before hand at say 0.001 and went public saying he will sell it back now and will buy back when the site closes it will be better for investors.
At least it is fun to see just-dice reopens but investing in it is gambling when you can lose more than 50% of the value of your investment because you bought CLAM at a high price then sell low. Investors are going to be more careful than if it reopened in BTC. If the bankroll is smaller, the return on investment will be higher for investors.

That being said, they did their research and CLAM has been distributed widely so many people have it without knowing it, they will get a hold of their CLAM and sell them on the exchange or bet them on j-d so the exchange rate should just rise when the order book is thin but should not go to the moon.
newbie
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December 07, 2014, 11:31:51 AM
Here are a few of my concerns:

a) There is no richlist available to my knowledge.  We have no idea how many people were privy to the inside information that Just-dice was going to solely feature clams and we have no idea how many coins the top holders have and/or what their intentions are for the coin either.

b) People are being asked to copy and paste their private key into a PUBLIC chatroom.  It's not hard to believe that users will not understand the instructions, mistype and reveal their private keys openly with funds still inside of them.  This is not OK.  Dooglus seems to get away with it because he has a spotless record, but what if this becomes common practice in the bitcoin gaming scene?  Scamming gaming operators will have a field day!  Please be EXTREMELY cautious and protective with your private keys!!!!

c) There is no way to tell at this moment what will happen when Clams inevitably gets paired with FIAT.  Will Just-dice close down and then it becomes a free for all sell off of clams?  How can we accurately speculate the stability of Clams?  The order book is extremely thin right now.  There are several hypothetical situations that do not play out well for users if they buy-in heavily into clams.

Final thoughts:

Just-dice has always been a great reputable site ran by a very competent and trustworthy operator (Dooglus), but I highly suggest that users do not gamble for high amounts of bitcoin value as there's many unanswered questions and high levels of risk.

If you want to play for fun, mess around with a trusted gaming site, and are not too concerned with financial risk, then by all means I think Just-dice is one of the best places for this.

legendary
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December 07, 2014, 11:19:33 AM
I need some free clams Tongue
legendary
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December 07, 2014, 10:49:09 AM
does anyone know how can i get a private key from coinbase
to get my clams from those addresses?

Email them and ask for your coins (clams.)

They use a shared wallet, so they can't give the priv key to you or it could pwn someone else.

Email email email.
full member
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December 07, 2014, 10:41:40 AM
does anyone know how can i get a private key from coinbase
to get my clams from those addresses?
Not sure about the existing one, but their multisig vault would allow you to control your private keys.
legendary
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December 07, 2014, 09:32:32 AM
does anyone know how can i get a private key from coinbase
to get my clams from those addresses?
legendary
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December 07, 2014, 07:03:07 AM
Seems as CLAM on JD has an impact on the price:



Lots of people playing and fucking around I guess.  Some taking totally free used X addresses and walking away with a few whole Bitcoins or w/e they want since LTC and DOGE is included as well.

I'm looking for a friend for 10,000 coins which is just shy of 20btc at current POLO rate.
hero member
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December 07, 2014, 06:50:36 AM
Seems as CLAM on JD has an impact on the price:

legendary
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December 07, 2014, 06:49:21 AM
Well.. its just great that Just-Dice has re-launched. I never had the opportunity to play on the "original" JD as i got into BTC gambling pretty late. I have seen several people across the internet, on BTC talk and gambling chat rooms keep cribbing about the fact that they wanted a site that would feel like JD with an honest operator like doogs and they were quite unhappy that they couldn't find one! With the re-launch i understand that clams will be the coin used to circumvent the fact that they cannot be converted to USD hence gambling them is legal where Doogs is.

What happens if Clams / any exchange decide to open a CLAMS/USD market? Does this mean that the site will go belly-up again? This is the only question really plaguing me atm. Will he also try other cryptos which cannot be converted to USD?

I got myself some clams and i am gonna try out the site soon. Grin
legendary
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December 07, 2014, 06:37:17 AM
I think you should put a PGP message signed from dooglus or something like that in the first post

I'm sure doog will sign off using the old JD cold wallet to affirm the new CLAM wallet n such.

I believe in my heart of hearts that it truly is doog and he is probably waiting to fix up something or something.

Me too. I'm the " R"  speaking with you in the JD chat right now,  I invested (and gambled  Grin ) till the first hours the site was up. But before invest more I need dooglus to show up, this thing is a lot unexpected and a bit shady and, you know, this is a bitcoin related business... what if somebody hacked his passwords?
full member
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December 07, 2014, 06:36:51 AM
Why didn't dooglus pick a currency that already has a market and added on some exchanges? This one looks so thin particularly for a site like just-dice and most of the coins are property of owners who didn't know they had it (found some CLAMS in an old wallet that had balance in 24 may, Plenty of just-dice people found they had hundreds of CLAMS too). Also I doubt investors who had thousands of BTC in just-dice would convert their bitcoins to some random alt-currency and put it in there.
legendary
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legendary
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December 07, 2014, 06:33:26 AM
I think you should put a PGP message signed from dooglus or something like that in the first post

I'm sure doog will sign off using the old JD cold wallet to affirm the new CLAM wallet n such.

I believe in my heart of hearts that it truly is doog and he is probably waiting to fix up something or something.  It is meant as a play tool for crypto people (BTC, DOGE and LTC.)  It should be got for free... don't just rush buying n selling.

All the "digging" can be done using the JD troll box.
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