Just made up my mind that there is no betting "Strategies" other than "Lucks"

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on September 28, 2024, 04:02:27 PM

I once heard my friend say that the casino he plays at pays out more during the early hours of the morning, when there are fewer people playing, so there are fewer to share the winnings with. I don't think that's a true claim.

If you're just playing for fun and entertainment and don't mind losing or winning a lot without getting addicted in the process, that's fine, but if you're just playing to get rich quick, it's very difficult and random in any type of gambling, you have to have a lot to lose (or be very lucky).

I still do not understand why someone talks about wanting to be rich by playing gambling and relying on luck as a determinant factor they get it, no one becomes rich from gambling, except for the casino owner, even if there are only 1 out of a million people who play gambling can be rich, That, too, if he did not risk in gambling and which was finally used up because of the victory that could be removed again in gambling.
Gambling is a place to have fun and do not make it as a place to get money let alone become rich in gambling, because if once you get a big victory in gambling you will feel you great and you will think I might get a second time, the third time And so on until your money is lost everything.

The strategy is only in the form of how you manage your money to be discarded or eliminated in gambling according to our personal risks, the rest is dominant luck, especially in slot games.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on September 28, 2024, 04:02:27 PM

I once heard my friend say that the casino he plays at pays out more during the early hours of the morning, when there are fewer people playing, so there are fewer to share the winnings with. I don't think that's a true claim.

If you're just playing for fun and entertainment and don't mind losing or winning a lot without getting addicted in the process, that's fine, but if you're just playing to get rich quick, it's very difficult and random in any type of gambling, you have to have a lot to lose (or be very lucky).

There are different kinds of gambling, professional card competitions, for example poker - is it luck? I doubt it, because players are mathematicians and they have everything perfect with mathematical statistics and probability theory, they win and earn money because they are cold-blooded and do not give in to emotions in the moment

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on September 26, 2024, 06:24:47 PM

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A betting strategy (also known as betting system) is a structured approach to gambling, in the attempt to produce a profit. To be successful, the system must change the house edge into a player advantage — which is impossible for pure games of probability with fixed odds, akin to a perpetual motion machine.

Thinking of gambling, thinking you can make money from it is like you are thinking about how you can easily lose your money. Have fun with it and use little amount of money to gamble.

I hope there are many gamblers out here who're gambling for profit can read what you said because that's the reality when it comes to gambling. It already came to a point in me where I look at gambling as a way to be entertained rather than a place to make money. I mean as a not-so-active gambler whose only gambling on sports games, it's more entertaining to watch if you will add some bets on your favorite team, isn't it? At the end of the day, I don't care if I win or lose as long as I enjoyed watching. Cheesy

Gamble to have fun, and not to make profit. I hope this phrase will be inserted into every gambler's mind whenever they're gambling so that they will not make unnecessary decisions like borrowing even more, recovering their losses in various ways or worse, making crimes or whatever bad things they can do. Gambling is addictive and can change your life FOREVER depending on the outcome. Gambling is all about luck, so don't expect too much on your bets as well because you will never know when you will be lucky. Wink

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I once heard my friend say that the casino he plays at pays out more during the early hours of the morning, when there are fewer people playing, so there are fewer to share the winnings with. I don't think that's a true claim.

If you're just playing for fun and entertainment and don't mind losing or winning a lot without getting addicted in the process, that's fine, but if you're just playing to get rich quick, it's very difficult and random in any type of gambling, you have to have a lot to lose (or be very lucky).

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 28, 2024, 01:30:32 PM

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Quote from: Nwada001 on September 28, 2024, 12:05:12 PM

Streaming is not just for entertainment purposes; that was what it was before gambling companies started paying and having deals with streamers to use their platform to promote their site and lure gamblers to come and gamble there, which is part of the reason why most streamers just focus only on how they can convince their audience that it's better and easier to win using the casino that they will be promoting.

You will barely see any streamer displaying where they lose a higher number of their playing they play and upload where it's all win win and winning, which is the reason why you get tempted to play each time you are watching them.

Yes, most of gambling videos nowadays display only the bright side of betting, as in almost every videos the outcomes are always positive for the gambler. They never show the losses and failures at all. For the unwarned portion of the audience it works as encouragement to gamble blindly, without fearing the potential negative consequences implied. On the other hand, thankfully there is already a conscious public right posting comments on such videos pointing out this fact to the videos' authors and everyone else who is watching it.

Personally, I enjoy watching other gamblers playing, but I know it's not for real and that it's useful only for entertainment purposes, therefore I shouldn't reproduce it in real life, because the outcomes are going to be totally different.

Yeah, most the time not unless you are lucky and you really good in controlling your emotions, though most of the time gamblers loses a lot and unable to control their emotions, things that leads you to lose a lot, there's no strategy if you are fully dominated by your emotions, it's more on how you set things up and how good are you accepting the outcome and how you be able to cope and not to dwell with your loses.

Exactly. How you cope with the outcome is something that defines how good you will be in gambling, I see this now personally as lately when I hit some consecutive lost games I am able to say to myself stop and I stop, something I had thought as impossible to control your emotions when you lose so I always ended up losing everything, now I have become better. In fact I made a so called strategy today as I had only 8% left to my next VIP level where you would get 110 dollars as bonus so I deposited like 60 dollars and got to that level, managed to get that 8% and immediately withdrew the bonus, in this case I was a bit smart I would say although maybe I will lose everything tomorrow, you never know in life. When we are able to stop under losing it is there that we have achieved great self control.

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Quote from: uneng on September 28, 2024, 12:15:13 PM

Quote from: Nwada001 on September 28, 2024, 12:05:12 PM

Streaming is not just for entertainment purposes; that was what it was before gambling companies started paying and having deals with streamers to use their platform to promote their site and lure gamblers to come and gamble there, which is part of the reason why most streamers just focus only on how they can convince their audience that it's better and easier to win using the casino that they will be promoting.

You will barely see any streamer displaying where they lose a higher number of their playing they play and upload where it's all win win and winning, which is the reason why you get tempted to play each time you are watching them.

Yes, most of gambling videos nowadays display only the bright side of betting, as in almost every videos the outcomes are always positive for the gambler. They never show the losses and failures at all. For the unwarned portion of the audience it works as encouragement to gamble blindly, without fearing the potential negative consequences implied. On the other hand, thankfully there is already a conscious public right posting comments on such videos pointing out this fact to the videos' authors and everyone else who is watching it.

Personally, I enjoy watching other gamblers playing, but I know it's not for real and that it's useful only for entertainment purposes, therefore I shouldn't reproduce it in real life, because the outcomes are going to be totally different.

Yeah, most the time not unless you are lucky and you really good in controlling your emotions, though most of the time gamblers loses a lot and unable to control their emotions, things that leads you to lose a lot, there's no strategy if you are fully dominated by your emotions, it's more on how you set things up and how good are you accepting the outcome and how you be able to cope and not to dwell with your loses.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on September 26, 2024, 06:24:20 PM

With all the gambling strategies on the internet none has made anyone a millionaire in naira or dollars instead they have made people lose the little they have. Systems and strategies don't work in gambling because there are no patterns to it, only sports betting can be studied a little bit and probably have a controllable outcome but anything can still happen after doing a lot of analysis...we are not new to gambling so it's not a new thing to hear about plans and strategies, we are completely unphased when people talk about all that now

System or strategy are not able to make someone rich or win regularly i agree with this but many time strategy can help you to win. who use there own strategy from his long gambling experience then he/she can win more then a beginer gamblers. so this is not true that gambling win only depend on luck.

Luck help a gamblers for a big win but only luck can't save you for long. you must have good gambling knowledge, experience and strategy. who has all of these he/she can win high amount from gambling

It is true that in betting no one has been able to find a system or strategy that can win the bets they play and what you are saying is very precise, those who have a strategy in placing their bets certainly have greater winning potential than someone who is new to betting and does not understand well what they are betting on.
In betting, luck does not always come to one gambler, of course they only get lucky occasionally, but for those who have the right understanding of the bets they play, even if they do not win, at least they do not lose a large amount because they will be able to know well the right time to bet or stop to bet.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on September 28, 2024, 12:05:12 PM

Streaming is not just for entertainment purposes; that was what it was before gambling companies started paying and having deals with streamers to use their platform to promote their site and lure gamblers to come and gamble there, which is part of the reason why most streamers just focus only on how they can convince their audience that it's better and easier to win using the casino that they will be promoting.

You will barely see any streamer displaying where they lose a higher number of their playing they play and upload where it's all win win and winning, which is the reason why you get tempted to play each time you are watching them.

Yes, most of gambling videos nowadays display only the bright side of betting, as in almost every videos the outcomes are always positive for the gambler. They never show the losses and failures at all. For the unwarned portion of the audience it works as encouragement to gamble blindly, without fearing the potential negative consequences implied. On the other hand, thankfully there is already a conscious public right posting comments on such videos pointing out this fact to the videos' authors and everyone else who is watching it.

Personally, I enjoy watching other gamblers playing, but I know it's not for real and that it's useful only for entertainment purposes, therefore I shouldn't reproduce it in real life, because the outcomes are going to be totally different.

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on September 28, 2024, 09:40:32 AM

Streamers was meant for entertaining purposes, it’s like a demo mode but by watching someone play using their own demo mode account.

I do motivated to gamble sometimes when watching streamers because I like the game they are playing not because they are winning since I knew that all casino game is luck based game which we all have different results.

Streaming is not just for entertainment purposes; that was what it was before gambling companies started paying and having deals with streamers to use their platform to promote their site and lure gamblers to come and gamble there, which is part of the reason why most streamers just focus only on how they can convince their audience that it's better and easier to win using the casino that they will be promoting.

You will barely see any streamer displaying where they lose a higher number of their playing they play and upload where it's all win win and winning, which is the reason why you get tempted to play each time you are watching them.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on September 28, 2024, 06:03:14 AM

Quote from: Kavelj22 on September 27, 2024, 04:01:43 PM

...In games where winning is simply based on random spins such as roulette or slot games, luck plays a major role. Skill, on the other hand, refers to the ability to make strategic decisions based on understanding and knowledge, just like in games such as poker, where players can use certain strategies to evaluate cards and estimate the odds of winning, skill emerges as a major factor in achieving long-term success. However, it is important to note that skill does not eliminate the need for luck, as a skilled player can lose compared to a less skilled player if luck is on his side at that particular moment.

I think that it is in roulette or slot games that you need to adhere to any strategy or just play to have fun, and then it is possible that luck will one day favor you. As for poker and sports betting, the main thing here will be your skill and how you understand any sport. And in this case, luck will be a secondary factor for winning.

This is true, but it cannot be said that luck is a second factor for winning in games that require knowledge, that is, that a person has the skill to understand the rules of those games at least at the initial level. For example, it would not be logical for a person to bet that any football team can win by a difference of fifty goals or that his opponents in poker always have better cards than him, this would not be logical. But at the same time, anyone can be served by luck even if he does not know anything about the rules of the game he is betting on. What I want to say is that luck always remains the main factor for winning in gambling, no matter what game you choose, then there is skill and strategic expertise that can help in achieving a permanent win, which of course does not mean a sure win every time, but a better probability of winning than one who depends only on luck. I hope I succeeded in clarifying the idea. 🙂

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Quote from: EluguHcman on September 26, 2024, 06:11:17 PM

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That is apparently to say that... If the winning streamline gets on random then following the forebeing strategy would be invalid to give winning and not until the bettor is lucky enough to catch up with the new trends would he count to win again.

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I've read that phrase in a book, of course, in other words or in another context. I'm not saying that you copied it, since in a certain way it sums up what happens very well in Poker, because in a certain way we have a differentiator in the types of games of chance and skill.

According to what you mention, this is what happens with many poker players, they enter the losing variable and what they were doing well, what had made them winners, changes. All of us who play poker have experienced those strange stages of variance, losing the river with +95% probability in your favor, a set on the flop against a better set, an improbable Fullhouse against a better one and it is something that is repeated for months, even years.

Then, staying in the game becomes a psychological one that, if done well.

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Quote from: famososMuertos on September 28, 2024, 09:45:42 AM

It's just the same old thing, people who believe in these traditional casino game youtubers seem like they're kids who get candy, it's an edited, recorded or not program, that doesn't matter, a few days ago a poker youtuber that I follow played a $25,000 tournament for obvious reasons I didn't watch his stream but he played for about +6 hours, to end up being eliminated...

There's no magic, there's no special fortune in any streamer, the thing is that most followers get the idea that it's possible...

People who think it's possible to do it with the advantage that streamers will always get because they see some streamers always getting wins, very few losses.

You certainly know what's going on, Streamers with a lot of subscribers are usually brand ambassadors or are working to attract other people to play at the casino because they always win, even though it has been manipulated and everything is set up for public advertising purposes.

Luck will always be the foundation and it cannot be manipulated.
Those who get the jackpot mean that they have used their luck.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on September 26, 2024, 06:24:20 PM

Quote from: EluguHcman on September 26, 2024, 06:11:17 PM

The true ethics surrounded gambling is that a winning strategy that may work today is said to be by luck that the bettor was lucky to bet on the streamline at that very moment.

That is apparently to say that... If the winning streamline gets on random then following the forebeing strategy would be invalid to give winning and not until the bettor is lucky enough to catch up with the new trends would he count to win again.

The reality is that... The casinos would never reveal moments of their Privacies as a course to reveal their weakness to bettors.
So ideally, streamers who claims perfection on betting are all formats of scamming.

So I hope everyone stays uncompromised not to be turned ON of winning strategies by the so gambling streamers otherwise "scammers".

With all the gambling strategies on the internet none has made anyone a millionaire in naira or dollars instead they have made people lose the little they have. Systems and strategies don't work in gambling because there are no patterns to it, only sports betting can be studied a little bit and probably have a controllable outcome but anything can still happen after doing a lot of analysis...we are not new to gambling so it's not a new thing to hear about plans and strategies, we are completely unphased when people talk about all that now

System or strategy are not able to make someone rich or win regularly i agree with this but many time strategy can help you to win. who use there own strategy from his long gambling experience then he/she can win more then a beginer gamblers. so this is not true that gambling win only depend on luck.

Luck help a gamblers for a big win but only luck can't save you for long. you must have good gambling knowledge, experience and strategy. who has all of these he/she can win high amount from gambling

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 28, 2024, 07:43:40 AM

These streamers are for entertainment so if they are talking to their viewers and talking as if wisdom is on them about the strategies that are winning them, you either believe and test it or just let it pass. They have to talk and converse with their audience so that viewers won't get bored. The reason that there are strategies being made and followed is to use as a guide but it won't give guarantee being profitable.

Entertainment is one way to success as a streamer, but if the streamer can show how good and skillful he's, I'm sure he can success too. It's really exciting to see someone can predict something almost all correct, even the strategy not work for other people, but if he can show to everyone if his prediction is correct, people will still believe him.

Quote from: nara1892 on September 28, 2024, 09:58:22 AM

analyzing a team is a recommended action when you are involved in any type of sports betting, none other than to draw conclusions about which team is stronger, it increases the chances of winning but of course does not guarantee that you will definitely win, because there are still quite a lot of other factors that can affect the results when both teams are competing on the field

Yep, at least it's better than blindly bet on something you don't really know.

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Quote from: Tmoonz on September 28, 2024, 05:09:38 AM

Quote from: EluguHcman on September 26, 2024, 06:11:17 PM

The true ethics surrounded gambling is that a winning strategy that may work today is said to be by luck that the bettor was lucky to bet on the streamline at that very moment.

That is apparently to say that... If the winning streamline gets on random then following the forebeing strategy would be invalid to give winning and not until the bettor is lucky enough to catch up with the new trends would he count to win again.

The reality is that... The casinos would never reveal moments of their Privacies as a course to reveal their weakness to bettors.
So ideally, streamers who claims perfection on betting are all formats of scamming.

So I hope everyone stays uncompromised not to be turned ON of winning strategies by the so gambling streamers otherwise "scammers".

Even though there is no guarantee as regards to gambling strategy or strategies even at a blind predictions there is also no guarantee hence, generally there is no guarantee in gambling and this has been said oftentimes but however, in my empirical point of view I usually have it that one needs to maximize every strategy or strategies even though there is no guarantee and allow luck to finally decide wether it is going to be a win or loss, it can be funny enough most times how games plays in an opposite direction but it can be very hard anyone to blindly make a prediction and hope boldly wait for a winning.

Strategy is not a matter of preserving results, it is ridiculous for someone to think that strategy will give them a certainty of results, strategy is just a document to explain how the direction is correct in a situation and of course, there will be a certain percentage of what we expect not happening but in this way, we will increase our capacity and have a better chance of capturing the results than letting luck decide. Besides, once we do not rely on something invisible and believe in ourselves, at least we will be separated from the blind crowd, such a path is more secure than one with only faith and lack of knowledge.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on September 28, 2024, 07:27:45 AM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on September 28, 2024, 06:10:55 AM

...But come to think of this, don't you have that feeling that strategies and skills are mostly the same, let me bring it a bit comprehensibly, strategies are skills that is being put up and several trial has been made and it works then it can be dished out as strategies. So in nutshell, we can say both skill and strategy's are one but it depends on how we understand it.

If, for example, we talk about sports betting, then an example of a strategy is that you will bet on the victory of the first team every time, and in case of failure you will increase the size of the bids. In the case of skills, you will bet on the leader of the championship, not on the outsider.

Well that's right, and I would say that if we talk about strategy then it should be mentioned about what kind of gambling it is, because if we talk about casino games like slots then it doesn't make sense, but if it's about sports betting then yes of course strategy is a pretty important factor to apply rather than just guessing randomly.

analyzing a team is a recommended action when you are involved in any type of sports betting, none other than to draw conclusions about which team is stronger, it increases the chances of winning but of course does not guarantee that you will definitely win, because there are still quite a lot of other factors that can affect the results when both teams are competing on the field

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 28, 2024, 07:43:40 AM

Quote from: EluguHcman on September 26, 2024, 06:11:17 PM

So I hope everyone stays uncompromised not to be turned ON of winning strategies by the so gambling streamers otherwise "scammers".

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It's just the same old thing, people who believe in these traditional casino game youtubers seem like they're kids who get candy, it's an edited, recorded or not program, that doesn't matter, a few days ago a poker youtuber that I follow played a $25,000 tournament for obvious reasons I didn't watch his stream but he played for about +6 hours, to end up being eliminated...

There's no magic, there's no special fortune in any streamer, the thing is that most followers get the idea that it's possible...

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 28, 2024, 07:43:40 AM

Quote from: EluguHcman on September 26, 2024, 06:11:17 PM

So I hope everyone stays uncompromised not to be turned ON of winning strategies by the so gambling streamers otherwise "scammers".

They're for entertainment and you don't have to take them seriously. It's true that if there are winning strategies that works for them or for some, that really works. But it is not applicable to them. The difference with these streamers is that they have a unique account for them set by the casino that they're streaming and if they're sponsored by it. Otherwise, just normal accounts like us.

These streamers are for entertainment so if they are talking to their viewers and talking as if wisdom is on them about the strategies that are winning them, you either believe and test it or just let it pass. They have to talk and converse with their audience so that viewers won't get bored. The reason that there are strategies being made and followed is to use as a guide but it won't give guarantee being profitable.

Definitely, In fact it’s quite peculiar for a streamer share a winning strategy since even them personally can’t win consistently during their stream so I doubt someone has the courage to say they have winning strategy but no visible result.

Streamers was meant for entertaining purposes, it’s like a demo mode but by watching someone play using their own demo mode account.

I do motivated to gamble sometimes when watching streamers because I like the game they are playing not because they are winning since I knew that all casino game is luck based game which we all have different results.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on September 26, 2024, 06:11:17 PM

So I hope everyone stays uncompromised not to be turned ON of winning strategies by the so gambling streamers otherwise "scammers".

They're for entertainment and you don't have to take them seriously. It's true that if there are winning strategies that works for them or for some, that really works. But it is not applicable to them. The difference with these streamers is that they have a unique account for them set by the casino that they're streaming and if they're sponsored by it. Otherwise, just normal accounts like us.

These streamers are for entertainment so if they are talking to their viewers and talking as if wisdom is on them about the strategies that are winning them, you either believe and test it or just let it pass. They have to talk and converse with their audience so that viewers won't get bored. The reason that there are strategies being made and followed is to use as a guide but it won't give guarantee being profitable.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on September 28, 2024, 06:03:14 AM

Quote from: Kavelj22 on September 27, 2024, 04:01:43 PM

...In games where winning is simply based on random spins such as roulette or slot games, luck plays a major role. Skill, on the other hand, refers to the ability to make strategic decisions based on understanding and knowledge, just like in games such as poker, where players can use certain strategies to evaluate cards and estimate the odds of winning, skill emerges as a major factor in achieving long-term success. However, it is important to note that skill does not eliminate the need for luck, as a skilled player can lose compared to a less skilled player if luck is on his side at that particular moment.

I think that it is in roulette or slot games that you need to adhere to any strategy or just play to have fun, and then it is possible that luck will one day favor you. As for poker and sports betting, the main thing here will be your skill and how you understand any sport. And in this case, luck will be a secondary factor for winning.

Exactly. It is obvious that the OP were just focusing on factors how to win strategically against the casino, which I think a hard thing to accomplish as most casinos were designed to have an algorithm in their favor.
One cannot just rely on luck without using any strategies in poker and Sports betting. Especially when you are playing poker, because it needs focus and betting strategies like how you raise bets. Pure luck just doesn't work with poker when you have a clever opponent lol.

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