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Quote from: Findingnemo on September 27, 2024, 02:49:09 PM

I do agree there's no strategy there to make you win in gambling but the streamers part is what I have to talk about they're not not scamming anyone literally but they're are manipulating with their results that's paid by the casino to advertise a particular brand or the influencer himself doing it to plot something big with the fame he gets from it.

That's ultimately down to we should not go and be blind when someone say so, we have to use our common sense.

There is no certain winning strategy for slots since it solely depends on luck. However, there could be some strategies that can be applied to sports betting. Some of these streamers are good analysts that can help one predict games. I also agree that some of these streamers collaborate with casinos to promote their services. I don't think any streamer can influence or manipulate me to gamble more, maybe newbies might become victims of these manipulations. But I have to confess that some of them have recommended some casinos and I registered with them. And I usually quit any of these recommended casinos that fall below my expectations.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on September 27, 2024, 02:30:32 PM

I mainly gamble on sports betting and even though I need luck to win, I need to carefully analyse any game or match I'm betting on before I can win. I'd say luck carries 80% while strategy carries the other 20%.

Sport betting is also a form of gambling which is based on lucks too but like other forms of gambling, you could become better at your chances of winning when you gain more experience in the gambling industry. For example gamblers who are keen to watching more of football fixtures and have understudied the strength and capacity of both clubs in fixture.

Although the larger percentage of gambling is majorly based on luck since you cannot predict the future and expect a 100 percent certainty in the outcome of the game. But can use their intuitive mind and expertise to guess right on which club has the higher chances of making victory.

No matter how experienced you are in sportbet, it doesn't limit your chances of running at loss because gamble is based more on luck and not how long you have being gambling and the kind of strategy that you employ. No matter the strategy that you come up with, it will not last for long.

If a gambler feels that it is based on experience that will give him the chance of making profit in gambling, that gambler might end up running at loss often because he will always think that he has figured out a strategy in which he can use to win his bet. However, if you have the mindset that luck is all when gambling, it will make you to reduce your gambling activities.

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For some reason you may be wrong and right at the same time, you are wrong because as a gambler, you can't totally depends on luck a to win a game, at least you need to have some basic skills, that will place you in a position where your luck can effectly work for you, and at the same time skills can be unproductive without luck, so the two goes hand in hand with each other, but o e can not exist without the other.

Gamblers have to come to a point where the accept this basic fact about their games each time the make a bet, that betting without skill is like driving a car without tires you can't go anywhere, and also betting without luck is like driving a car without headlights, you will not end well, so both goes hand in hand.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on September 27, 2024, 02:30:32 PM

I mainly gamble on sports betting and even though I need luck to win, I need to carefully analyse any game or match I'm betting on before I can win. I'd say luck carries 80% while strategy carries the other 20%.

Sport betting is also a form of gambling which is based on lucks too but like other forms of gambling, you could become better at your chances of winning when you gain more experience in the gambling industry. For example gamblers who are keen to watching more of football fixtures and have understudied the strength and capacity of both clubs in fixture.

Although the larger percentage of gambling is majorly based on luck since you cannot predict the future and expect a 100 percent certainty in the outcome of the game. But can use their intuitive mind and expertise to guess right on which club has the higher chances of making victory.

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I do agree there's no strategy there to make you win in gambling but the streamers part is what I have to talk about they're not not scamming anyone literally but they're are manipulating with their results that's paid by the casino to advertise a particular brand or the influencer himself doing it to plot something big with the fame he gets from it.

That's ultimately down to we should not go and be blind when someone say so, we have to use our common sense.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on September 26, 2024, 06:11:17 PM

The true ethics surrounded gambling is that a winning strategy that may work today is said to be by luck that the bettor was lucky to bet on the streamline at that very moment.

That is apparently to say that... If the winning streamline gets on random then following the forebeing strategy would be invalid to give winning and not until the bettor is lucky enough to catch up with the new trends would he count to win again.

The reality is that... The casinos would never reveal moments of their Privacies as a course to reveal their weakness to bettors.
So ideally, streamers who claims perfection on betting are all formats of scamming.

So I hope everyone stays uncompromised not to be turned ON of winning strategies by the so gambling streamers otherwise "scammers".

Of course everything relies on luck nowadays in most games like slot machines that use Random Number Generator to calculate results yet there are still skill games like poker where also a good dose of luck is needed and some "strategies" of wagering can be applied to help you level up really quick, these strategies revolve around dice and what they do is try to maximize your wager, they don't promise any win over the long run, only loses yet they make you have 100 dollar wagered or near 100 dollars wagered for just 1 dollar, so with just 100 dollars of playing these you get to the next level or the very first VIP level in many casinos. There is still hope if you know how to apply statistics, what to expect from your game and if you are real in leveling up because leveling up can give you benefits over the long run so overall I still think there is hope.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on September 27, 2024, 11:05:46 AM

Nevertheless, there are strategies recognized by everyone, such as Martingale and Thomas Donald, which has been around for several centuries and could really lead to a win. For those who are not familiar with such strategies, one can only hope for luck.

There is no doubt that strategies exist in the gambling world, but are they reliable and can one expect to increase their winnings in the long run with those strategies? I don't think so. If a person manages to win more often using strategies like martingale, I would say that is their luck making them win because if you survey gamblers asking them about how much success they have gained using such strategies, the results will probably be negative.

A lot of people use martingale strategy or other similar strategies to either recover their losses or maximize their profits, they might succeed once or twice when they apply such strategies, but eventually, they lose everything because there will surely be a loss streak that you won't be able to cross if you are doubling your bet after each loss and that is how this strategy works. You succeed only if you get a win before your balance runs out.

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Quote from: Onyeeze on September 27, 2024, 02:19:59 PM

One thing that we don't understand in gambling is that we don't know that gambling does not have any strategies to win true gambling water only place I can say that you may apply strategies in gambling is the aspect of funding in any bet you are about to place, what you needed is concentration and they also minimize the way all the amount you place in bet but aspect of winning gambling I believe that it is measured by luck because there is no one who wins gambling through it strategies, most win gambling through opportunity that is one of the thing that is paramount in gambling

There are indeed some gambling game types on which having analysis is something that could really be helping you out to be able to have at least that upperhand on winning up specially on sports betting or card games on which just like been said that you couldnt really just that rely on luck alone but cant be denied that this is the most important stuff or thing when dealing up with gambling on which we know that no matter how good your analysis would be but if luck isnt on your side then you would definitely be losing up that bet or game on which this is something that will definitely happening.
This is why its really that important that you should really be having that self realizations on things so that you wont be finding yourself that being desperate.

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In any other form of gambling where outcomes are obtained by chance, gambling is based solely on luck, but I believe there has to be a strategy in sports betting. I agree that even in sports better, luck is a much bigger factor, but it's not 100%.
The ability to analyse and read a game to predict the outcome correctly is needed to be successful in sports betting. It's different from other casino games where you pick a card or throw a dice at random.

I mainly gamble on sports betting and even though I need luck to win, I need to carefully analyse any game or match I'm betting on before I can win. I'd say luck carries 80% while strategy carries the other 20%.

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Let's supose you bet in an odd of "1.85". Knowing your risk is "1.00", we divide 1.00/1.85 that's equal to "0.540...". That means that, in this case, you have to win at least "54,1% of your bets to be profitable. But your chance calculated by the bookmaker is 50% and there is no reason to believe that they are wrong, they have the best brains, best technology and a lot of money, they make theirlives by that activity. "50%" of times you win and earn "0.85" and "50%" you lose and when you lose you pay "1.00". Let's see how our math will ends: 50/100 * 0.85 = 42.5/100 ; 50/100 * 1.00 = 50/100. So in this case is expected we lose 7.5% in each of our bets. That is no occur on each bet, but in the long term it will. That pattern repeats in all odds, your lost is just the consequence of all that math.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on September 26, 2024, 06:11:17 PM

The true ethics surrounded gambling is that a winning strategy that may work today is said to be by luck that the bettor was lucky to bet on the streamline at that very moment.

That is apparently to say that... If the winning streamline gets on random then following the forebeing strategy would be invalid to give winning and not until the bettor is lucky enough to catch up with the new trends would he count to win again.

The reality is that... The casinos would never reveal moments of their Privacies as a course to reveal their weakness to bettors.
So ideally, streamers who claims perfection on betting are all formats of scamming.

So I hope everyone stays uncompromised not to be turned ON of winning strategies by the so gambling streamers otherwise "scammers".

With all the gambling strategies on the internet none has made anyone a millionaire in naira or dollars instead they have made people lose the little they have. Systems and strategies don't work in gambling because there are no patterns to it, only sports betting can be studied a little bit and probably have a controllable outcome but anything can still happen after doing a lot of analysis...we are not new to gambling so it's not a new thing to hear about plans and strategies, we are completely unphased when people talk about all that now

I tend to disagree with you about that statement that no gambling strategy has made anyone a millionaire. There are lots of people that have been made millionaires due to their gambling strategy, for some of us in Nigeria a very good example is EKiti son on X(twitter) and Mr Banks, these are two prominent strategic gamblers that have made millions from their gambling strategy. As a gambler you have to understand that news strategies will always come up, your ability to combine both new and old strategy just so you could beat the system makes you a professional gambler.

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One thing that we don't understand in gambling is that we don't know that gambling does not have any strategies to win true gambling water only place I can say that you may apply strategies in gambling is the aspect of funding in any bet you are about to place, what you needed is concentration and they also minimize the way all the amount you place in bet but aspect of winning gambling I believe that it is measured by luck because there is no one who wins gambling through it strategies, most win gambling through opportunity that is one of the thing that is paramount in gambling

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Quote from: EluguHcman on September 26, 2024, 06:11:17 PM

The true ethics surrounded gambling is that a winning strategy that may work today is said to be by luck that the bettor was lucky to bet on the streamline at that very moment.

That is apparently to say that... If the winning streamline gets on random then following the forebeing strategy would be invalid to give winning and not until the bettor is lucky enough to catch up with the new trends would he count to win again.

The reality is that... The casinos would never reveal moments of their Privacies as a course to reveal their weakness to bettors.
So ideally, streamers who claims perfection on betting are all formats of scamming.

So I hope everyone stays uncompromised not to be turned ON of winning strategies by the so gambling streamers otherwise "scammers".

Well sometimes these said strategies do work and in some cases people have seen these predictions playing out just as predicted so they get convinced beyond reasonable doubts by these streamer that gambling is mainly luck based, they begin to go with the minds set that there are strategies with which you can consistently make a winning streek and become very profitable gambling than you have been before following up with the streamers strategy but actually in the long run, they later come to the reality of the Truth.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on September 26, 2024, 06:11:17 PM

The true ethics surrounded gambling is that a winning strategy that may work today is said to be by luck that the bettor was lucky to bet on the streamline at that very moment.

That is apparently to say that... If the winning streamline gets on random then following the forebeing strategy would be invalid to give winning and not until the bettor is lucky enough to catch up with the new trends would he count to win again.

The reality is that... The casinos would never reveal moments of their Privacies as a course to reveal their weakness to bettors.
So ideally, streamers who claims perfection on betting are all formats of scamming.

So I hope everyone stays uncompromised not to be turned ON of winning strategies by the so gambling streamers otherwise "scammers".

Believing in betting strategies is almost the same thing as believing in myths and science fiction this might be a weird comparison but it's actually true. You must realize that there no strategies out there that can guarantee Profit, gambling is luck based that's why you shouldn't put all of your money in it. We tell people that betting strategies are not real everyday but they don't seem to listen well, I'm guessing that they are willing to learn from experience. If these experts sell strategies to you ask yourself why they haven't used those systems they have to make millions.

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Quote from: Yucky on September 27, 2024, 10:42:14 AM

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I'd actually say that even if it was backed up with numbers, it still isn't something people should push for (or even attempt to try). An example is martingale, we all know that in theory, it's really effective in making you break even and profit at a minimum (depending on your base bet), but it only applies IF you have an unlimited amount of budget. All theories work like that imo. They always assume you have "unlimited" money hence why they aren't really realistic.

The most effective strategy one can have when playing is just to budget your money properly. That's literally it.

Even if you think that you are correctly allocating your money, but it is unlikely to change your chances on the gambling field. The casino will still have an advantage, which means that in the long run you will lose no matter how much money you have. The system of gambling is almost impossible to cheat, because its basis is mathematics and probability theory.

If we talk about the strategy of Martingale, and it will sooner or later lead you to lose, because each subsequent round is not related to the previous one.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 26, 2024, 06:27:37 PM

Luck is what we need the most in gambling, more than any skill or strategies that these gambling streamers claim. That’s why I don’t fall on these people saying that they have the best strategies and betting tips to win the jackpot prize in gambling, those are actually big lies that only greedy and ignorant people bite.

Now, those who claimed that they have been rich in gambling overtime, they’re just lucky gamblers in reality. But we all know that it takes thousands or even millions of losses first before those gamblers have achieved their position now. Otherwise, if you fall believing that you’ll also get rich in gambling without incurring significant losses, you’ll end up a new scam victim.

I don't know how you're able to conclude on this,but how do you ascertain that luck is the only factor that's needed to gamble whereas win Strategies didn't work out well for you and others doesn't mean they're just framing or fabricated.
However,casinos games are likely to be possible by chance but luck isn't all that you need to gamble.Even as luck and strategy plays a greater role in gambling.
Although,the techniques are greatly adopted and enjoyed by many players.There're still very influential amongy players and they seem to operate in different ways.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on September 27, 2024, 11:05:46 AM

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...It's base on pure luck alone, others might argue that there are strategies and skills like poker, but still for me, if you are not lucky, even if you have all the skills in the world, you are going to lose in the end. ..

Nevertheless, there are strategies recognized by everyone, such as Martingale and Thomas Donald, which has been around for several centuries and could really lead to a win. For those who are not familiar with such strategies, one can only hope for luck.

The Martingale method is not a panacea either. In fact, the essence of the Martingale method in gambling is to double the bet after each loss of the player. This strategy seems to be a sure thing, but there are nuances here ...

The Martingale strategy is a sure thing, but only from a mathematical point of view. In practice, casinos (both online and offline casinos) limit the size of possible bets. As a result, the Martingale strategy is not applicable in practice. In addition, the player (unlike the casino) has a limited amount of money.

The player cannot double his bets forever - sooner or later he will run out of money. And the casino will not allow him to play on credit.

Self-discipline, by the way, also won’t help you win constantly over a long period of time (unfortunately).

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Quote from: Yucky on September 27, 2024, 10:42:14 AM

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I'd actually say that even if it was backed up with numbers, it still isn't something people should push for (or even attempt to try). An example is martingale, we all know that in theory, it's really effective in making you break even and profit at a minimum (depending on your base bet), but it only applies IF you have an unlimited amount of budget. All theories work like that imo. They always assume you have "unlimited" money hence why they aren't really realistic.

The most effective strategy one can have when playing is just to budget your money properly. That's literally it.

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Quote from: aioc on September 27, 2024, 11:51:48 AM

Quote from: EluguHcman on September 26, 2024, 06:11:17 PM

So I hope everyone stays uncompromised not to be turned ON of winning strategies by the so gambling streamers otherwise "scammers".\

These streamers are working for and getting money promoting casinos through their streams so they have to make the casino pictured as a place to make money, so if you're now well informed on how these streamers work, you will end up believing and bet on casino they are promoting and a series of losses will make you relize that these streamers are lying.
These streamers even had disclaimers, so you will not blame them if you lose your money, so the blame ends up with you.

Yes, I think most streamers do that, because the scenario is when more people are involved in the casino site they promote, the greater the amount of profit the streamer will get, and that's why I often see most streamers broadcasting by showing the amount of big wins that look very tempting.

If the question is about who is wrong in a case like this, I think both parties between the streamer and the viewer are guilty, because the streamer promotes something but does not explain the negative side and the audience is also wrong because they are unable to use common sense and rational perspective when seeing something tempting, even though there are clearly no significant results with just a little effort.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on September 26, 2024, 06:11:17 PM

So I hope everyone stays uncompromised not to be turned ON of winning strategies by the so gambling streamers otherwise "scammers".\

These streamers are working for and getting money promoting casinos through their streams so they have to make the casino pictured as a place to make money, so if you're now well informed on how these streamers work, you will end up believing and bet on casino they are promoting and a series of losses will make you relize that these streamers are lying.
These streamers even had disclaimers, so you will not blame them if you lose your money, so the blame ends up with you.

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