Topic: (JWL) JEWELS 🔷 HEROES LAUNCHED 🔷 1ST JWL USE CASE 🔷 TRADING ON BITTREX - page 120. (Read 212673 times)

Do you vote when your country is electing it's leader or do you think it doesn't matter because what's one vote going to do? I am glad not everyone thinks like this... 

It's hard to enforce this. Look at any game and there is a black market for in game items and currency, WoW gold, Runescape gold, etc. you name it.  This is competitive with our own revenues, but regardless of whether we allow it or not people will do it.

With Jewels (a currency that essentially has a cash value because it can be traded BTC to fiat) we can encourage players that if they want to sell their items for real world "value" they do this through Jewels on our platform and let us escrow the trades for them. This greatly reduces the risk of both parties as we act as an automated escrow service between the two parties as well as allows us to profit from these sorts of trades as we can take an escrow fee.

Will some players still try to circumvent this purpose by still selling directly for USD? Yes probably and we can discourage this, but most players we expect would rather not take that risk if they don't have to. NCSoft's Blade and Soul recently takes a similar approach where you can purchase Hongmoon coins (their cash currency) and sell them to other players for gold the same way you would sell say BTC/USD. Of course there are still players who go the route of buying gold directly from gold farmers rather then supporting the actual game itself but those who do so greatly put themselves at risk for bans and scamming

I'm not the right person to answer the question about botting and cheat so I'll leave that for Chris to tackle.

Regardless of whether you consider direct trading between users to be "Pay2Win" there's no way of stopping it or preventing it. Take your pick at any MMO you can name that allows trading between players items that have stat based values, do you consider them p2w because there exist black markets where if a player wanted and intended to dump cash into the game and get immediate benefits? This is another topic that I feel Chris can expand upon much better than myself.

Edit: On a personal note, I don't think the idea of being able to spend cash on a game is bad thing. Where it becomes a bad thing is when you can spend so much cash on a game that a player who is "skillful" at the game has no chance of ever beating someone who is unskillful because they've dumped a lot of cash into their character/equipment. This is most evident giving the current state of the official Conquer Online. We know it is important to recognize players who are skillful which is why we offer plenty of PvP events that do not factor in a players gear/stats but rather strictly focus on their PvP mechanics.

So basically you will now be allowing in-game items to be sold for real world currencies using Jewels as an intermediary step.
How is that not competing with you own revenues?

How do you avoid botting? There are already bots for Conquer Online. How do you prevent users adapting them to farm items and in-game currency on Apex, making the price of in-game item drop and sparking massive inflation of the in-game currency?

If you allow players to sell items that give an advantage in-game, like weapons, you are basically allowing Pay2Win. It's not Pay2Win between the players and you, but Pay2Win between players. A new player can basically come and buy $100 worth of Jewels, buy XP boosts and equip himself with topnotch equipment, and outperform players who have been playing for a while. I'm not saying that's necessarily a problem, Diablo 3 has been doing that for a while with the Real Money Auction House, but let's call a spade a spade.

Can you tell us more about that? Are you creating a company and selling equity? Will this be a game studio? Based in which country?

Well, everyone's investment so far hasn't triggered sustained buying. There is no reason one more will change anything. Incentives are stacked against participating before the absolute last moment. I suggested OP to change slightly the structure of the ICO to neutralize the self-reenforcing effect of the wait-and-see strategy. It's up to OP to decide if he wants to help his own ICO. It's not my role trying to bootstrap things on his behalf.

Game tonight? Im ready to play some, just send me a pm with your info and I'll find you guys.

Look at his history. He's just a hurt bagholder and trying to bring down any project that looks like its got a shot. Conclusion. 100% shill account made just to troll.

Its ironic that this post is coming from someone who probably never built anything in their entire life.

That center bar is stamina. It is used by all classes for certain skills. Ninjas use stamina for all of their skills.


We plan to focus on additional content through re-designing under utilized content rather than adding fresh classes. A good example would be weapon variety. There is a dozen or so different types of weapons (swords, blades, axes, hammers, hooks, clubs, etcetc) and only a handful of them are actually used. Our first major expansion pack will take some of these weapons and give them new skills and mechanics to make them more interesting. That also serves as a way for us to expand on classes that feel a bit underwhelming for players based on the previous few months of gameplay.

For example if 4-6 months from now archers feel a bit stale (they have always been more of a player vs monster class) then giving them some new skills based around an existing under-utilized weapon would be a great way to make the class more exciting and at the same time leverage existing client assets to save on development time.



Based on how the class worked in the original conquer online and based on our testing, they are a very powerful class. They can be thought of as a counter to ranged classes like archers and taoists due to their very quick damage. Where they run into issues is when they can't quickly kill a target in a hit or two (such as when vs a warrior). At that point they need to wait for a weakness by working with allies or by repeatedly applying poisons until the target is weak enough to take down.



Lets break things down as it seems you may not have read the full OP (it's long I'll grant you that).


Apex has been online and been my full time job for 18+ months - Conquer Online (the game it's emulating) has existed for well over a decade. There is no development funds needed for that project and it is an existing and established game where jewels will be used as an immediate first use case (built in demand for the currency).


Heroes is a much more modern version of the same game (conquer online) and will be launching within a week of the ICO ending. There is no development funds needed for that project and it has been in development/testing for around 8 months.

Jewels Gambling is what the funds raised will be used for. These will be a series of provably fair crypto gambling games which will be available separately from our private server projects as well as being embedded in the existing client. These gambling games will therefor have an immediate audience of thousands of users as well as the very large potential for future growth by partnering with other servers, other games, other gambling websites in order to have our games added to their offerings.

The remaining dev funds will be put towards phase 1 of developing our own MMO. We have many years of experience developing stable and popular server projects as well as developing unique content for players. We want to push those skills to the next level by developing our own game from the ground up. Yes, it will be inspired by many of the concepts from Conquer Online that we like best but it will NOT be a clone, it will be our own game developed from scratch with modern gaming in mind.



The amount of funds we raise determines how many gambling games we can create, how quickly they will be ready for users and how complex they can be. Simple things like dice games and slot machines require relatively little in regards to development (a couple artists and a developer or two) but if we're going to expand to much more complex projects like multi player blackjack, roulette and more then that requires a LOT more in terms of programming, art (3d models, textures, effects) and sounds.

The gambling projects are our priority when it comes to this ICO as it's where funds can be best utilized to grow the coin past simply being a premium crypto used in a number of existing games. Having them immediately in use is a huge benefit, don't get me wrong but it's not something that can scale exponentially. Heroes/Apex has no use for external funding and that's nothing to do with what this ICO is about, it's simply the first and most accessible use case for the coin and a demonstration of my past experience as a developer.

The current games and the one that's being designed are unrelated. The one being designed is a custom one. Two very different scenarios.

Yes ninja class have no future in this game but if they add some skill like invincibility or comoflage Im think they have a good and have a bright future in this game.We know ninja can hide and attack that you didn't sense it.

That Ninja class sounds bad ass. Will you be adding more classes to Heroes as time progresses? Also, do these classes use the same resource that Warrior uses? Not sure what it's called but I noticed some of the skills a warrior can learn consumes the teal bar in the middle of your health.

Given the fact Apex has been around for 2 years prior to posting on BitcoinTalk that's a strange prediction to make however you're more than entitled to whatever opinions you want to hold

I also take it you didn't read the OP given if you did you would know the funds being raised isn't to primarily focus on developing Apex/Heroes.


I can take a look into getting something like this added possibly. If you have any more questions or need further assistance feel free to reach out to us via Slack for a quicker response!

looking like bad clone of diablo 2.... sry but not this crowdfund only to scam bitcointlak people... it will be abandoned in a month after ico....... and why goal 200 btc? 120k usd??? you cann't develop without them? ugly game rly....................  if goal was near 50 btc  it will be seems like more true ..... 30k usd is enough to hire some designer and programming engineer  for 3 month to fully complete this "mini-game"

After the ICO, when they relaunch Heroes server from scratch, I'm sure we will have one.

AVG antivirus prevented me from running Conquer on a Win 7 x64 laptop. Other antivirus didn't. Not sure if it can help  

Pretty sure im just having a compat issue. Well after a little poking around on the pc its a compat issue with also win 8 hiding the inet connect pref for the prog from me :p

But on a side note would it be possible to add a magnet download for both apex and heroes? (you have highspeed & lowspeed but theres a lot of us that like to go through tor. Better speed etc)

I used to play Conquer with my friends at least ten years ago, on TQ servers if i remember correctly.
I did register on Heroes and Apex server two days ago, after reading about this IPO. As soon as I realized it was the old game we used to play (with better graphics) I could not miss it.