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Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 138. (Read 5352229 times)

legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Added another 3 - 741 to the pool last night. Slowly getting my hasrate up. 150+TH and counting

Sweet!  The more the merrier! Cheesy

Agreed. May have another 7 - S9 coming. Just trying to increase my power to accommodate it all lol

That is quite the challenge for the home miner...hang in there!
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
Added another 3 - 741 to the pool last night. Slowly getting my hasrate up. 150+TH and counting

Sweet!  The more the merrier! Cheesy

Agreed. May have another 7 - S9 coming. Just trying to increase my power to accommodate it all lol
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Added another 3 - 741 to the pool last night. Slowly getting my hasrate up. 150+TH and counting

Sweet!  The more the merrier! Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
Added another 3 - 741 to the pool last night. Slowly getting my hasrate up. 150+TH and counting
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Just have join to kano pool with  6pcs of S9. Was long time think where to go, to p2pool, ckpool, or kano.. Decide to kano, as its seems like a p2pool system, but little lees fees. Hope here is good  profit Smiley Many profit to all miners!
Well the fee here is 0.9% as it says - always has been that low fee except when it has been lower Smiley

We have a lot of miners of different sizes - small to large - all pay that same 0.9% fee - even the top miners on the pool.
This pool has the fairest PPLNS payout system of all non PPS pools - and of course a lower fee than all the PPS pools.

Every TH and every 85TH helps - welcome aboard Smiley

Many thanks! I also send one of S9 to solo )))) hope to my lucky Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Just have join to kano pool with  6pcs of S9. Was long time think where to go, to p2pool, ckpool, or kano.. Decide to kano, as its seems like a p2pool system, but little lees fees. Hope here is good  profit Smiley Many profit to all miners!
Well the fee here is 0.9% as it says - always has been that low fee except when it has been lower Smiley

We have a lot of miners of different sizes - small to large - all pay that same 0.9% fee - even the top miners on the pool.
This pool has the fairest PPLNS payout system of all non PPS pools - and of course a lower fee than all the PPS pools.

Every TH and every 85TH helps - welcome aboard Smiley
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Just have join to kano pool with  6pcs of S9. Was long time think where to go, to p2pool, ckpool, or kano.. Decide to kano, as its seems like a p2pool system, but little lees fees. Hope here is good  profit Smiley Many profit to all miners!
copper member
Activity: 232
Merit: 2
In reference to the whole Flush, oops, Slush debacle:

The only reason that Pool got sooo big, ultimately, is Familiarity. Far too many people buy equipment, THEN research what
pool to join. They do a google search, and quickly identify Slush as " The World's First Bitcoin Mining Pool". Instantaneously
they think, it has to be the best because, it's the first, and it's soo big. Slush must be Trustworthy.

After joining, the user is mesmerized by the sleek gui, and the instant gratification of a daily payout, which every online
calculator makes them believe they must get. Most feel a sense of false security watching the blocks being found, one after
another, not ever understanding or learning what really happens "behind the scenes" of that slick gui. To them, everything
is simply "plug and play" and Slush is on call running the "boards".

It's at that point of blissful ignorance, that they are actually being taken advantage of, by a Corporate Committee. The users
don't realize, Slush, is comparable to The Wizard of Oz. Sure, he did start a Cooperative Mining effort, and began laying the
foundation for Pools, but he took the money and run, so to say. The reigns were handed over to a Committee. Slush went on
to other areas, and focused his time on Hardware Wallets. He just gets Royalties for "his" name at this point. That Committee
completely controls the pool, from behind the curtain of Slush's namesake.

Meanwhile, at Slushpool, the Committee focused on Growth. That's where things like Mass advertising, and a slick gui paid
off in spades. Imagine if you will, how much money that Committee earns, from that 2% fee. That's surely going to motivate
them, to keep the users coming to them. They completely understand, how advertising to the "instant gratification" miner
works. That's why Slush is now advertised as "The World's First Bitcoin Mining Pool to Support Asicboost". They worked
very closely with Halongmining, and their Marketing team, to ensure Slush would get the Lion's Share of DragonMint users.
Hell, Halongmining doesn't even advertise for the pool they test their equipment on, and that pool operator wrote their software.
They know users are Familiar with the name--Slush. They can appear to be Trustworthy to consumers, if Slush vouched for them.
It's a Corporate Win/Win that made Millions of dollars.

All the while, users see the pool plow through blocks, and they get their daily payouts. However, are they getting their fair share???
Do they even notice, or suspect any foul play??? Do any of them question how Trustful, the "World's First" is??? Probably not, and
that Corporate Committee understands that, as long as the user is receiving, what the online calculator tells them they SHOULD
earn, nobody will bat an eye. Most of their users have very little knowledge, of what their equipment ACTUALLY does. They just
buy it, hook it up, add Flush as their pool of choice and BOOM!!! They're the owner of a Magical Money Machine, just like the one
they read about online.

Ignorance is Bliss!!!



I think the main reason why big pools are getting bigger is that they are big.

And they once got big because they were the first ones - simple.

People (I know a few) are looking what pool to join, and people like frequent and "safe" payouts - so if anyone is mining at slush, they do too (because they feel safe).
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
so if I'm pointed at stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333 what do I ping too? (patience is appreciated here)

stratum.kano.is port 8080 (or 80) with a TCPing program though I'm not sure what programs are best to use on windows

Google tcping
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35912215
newbie
Activity: 65
Merit: 0
so if I'm pointed at stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333 what do I ping too? (patience is appreciated here)
newbie
Activity: 65
Merit: 0
Unapologetic noob here. I surely appreciate the personal response. Now I'll take a day or so to decipher it to my level of understanding.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I've power enough in my shop to run a few miners. No direct Internet connection but there is a wifi hotspot my laptop/netbook can access. What I'm stuck on it how to add a switch or router to connect a couple miners.
One important point to check is the network times.
Wifi, Hot-spots, VPNs, Tor and other public connections, can sometimes have severe network issues affecting a miner.

A miner's most important requirement is to get each share it finds to the node as quickly as possible.
Each miner also finds about 18 SPM (shares per minute) i.e. average one every 3.333 seconds, so the network needs to be consistently reliable.

Now I wont say that 100ms is too slow, since really that's not the end of the earth, but if it is over 200ms then you are going to have high stales, and if you ever find a block, that will of course also delay getting that block to the pool, then out to the rest of the world, and risk getting a stale or orphan.

Regular stale blocks and orphans are a clear sign that miners have network problems, or are a long way from the pool connections
(or there's a problem with the mining software in the miners that found the orphans)
... and each stale block/orphan is currently about $80k total lost by all miners.

We have a lot of nodes around the world - 8 public ones that everyone can mine to in 6 locations - 6 private whitelisted ones that some large miners use - and 2, not for mining, in china that are there to help with block distribution into china.
The Fibre relay is the main reason bitcoin has fewer orphans - but any pool ONLY relying on it to solve block distribution clearly hasn't seen the times when parts of the Fibre relay have been down for hours or days.
The pool connects to all the Fibre relays, so I do know on the rare occasions when parts of it are down.

I guess the point of it all being, make sure your network is good enough to mine on this pool so we don't lose blocks.
Don't assume a crappy or slow network is ever OK.
Edit: and don't use Tor
full member
Activity: 500
Merit: 105
I've power enough in my shop to run a few miners. No direct Internet connection but there is a wifi hotspot my laptop/netbook can access. What I'm stuck on it how to add a switch or router to connect a couple miners.


Get a pi3 for like $55 (amazon.com) and bridge wifi to LAN.
Connect a switch to the LAN port and there you go

Google pi3 wifi to LAN and you will find a lot of tutorials.

Edit: note that pi3 can't connect to 5g wifi


newbie
Activity: 65
Merit: 0
I've power enough in my shop to run a few miners. No direct Internet connection but there is a wifi hotspot my laptop/netbook can access. What I'm stuck on it how to add a switch or router to connect a couple miners.
member
Activity: 285
Merit: 10
Free mining equipment tracking and reporting
.... However, are they getting their fair share??? Do they even notice, or suspect any foul play??? Do any of them question how Trustful, the "World's First" is???

Ignorance is Bliss!!!
I have been programming for almost 30 years, mining about a year now and have to admit that trying to figure out the nitty gritty of bitcoin is still a lot of wizard of oz to me.  I have read pretty much every post on this forum for the year and written minergain to log all kinds of details and provide some info (mostly for my mining enjoyment but free to anyone), so I probably have a little more experience basis that many - but there is still a lot of trust involved for my mining.  Fortunately Kano frequently (and personally) shares his knowledge, experience and occasional missteps - and makes me wonder if he sleeps - which does make me very confident we are all being watched over - which Kano obviously believes in long term success versus the quick payoff.  I have no idea how I would even begin to figure out how to "calculate" any intended or unintended issues.  I suspect many of the pool owners are in a similar situation which again makes me happy to be with someone who knows the ins and outs of this...
full member
Activity: 500
Merit: 105
In reference to the whole Flush, oops, Slush debacle:

The only reason that Pool got sooo big, ultimately, is Familiarity. Far too many people buy equipment, THEN research what
pool to join. They do a google search, and quickly identify Slush as " The World's First Bitcoin Mining Pool". Instantaneously
they think, it has to be the best because, it's the first, and it's soo big. Slush must be Trustworthy.

After joining, the user is mesmerized by the sleek gui, and the instant gratification of a daily payout, which every online
calculator makes them believe they must get. Most feel a sense of false security watching the blocks being found, one after
another, not ever understanding or learning what really happens "behind the scenes" of that slick gui. To them, everything
is simply "plug and play" and Slush is on call running the "boards".

It's at that point of blissful ignorance, that they are actually being taken advantage of, by a Corporate Committee. The users
don't realize, Slush, is comparable to The Wizard of Oz. Sure, he did start a Cooperative Mining effort, and began laying the
foundation for Pools, but he took the money and run, so to say. The reigns were handed over to a Committee. Slush went on
to other areas, and focused his time on Hardware Wallets. He just gets Royalties for "his" name at this point. That Committee
completely controls the pool, from behind the curtain of Slush's namesake.

Meanwhile, at Slushpool, the Committee focused on Growth. That's where things like Mass advertising, and a slick gui paid
off in spades. Imagine if you will, how much money that Committee earns, from that 2% fee. That's surely going to motivate
them, to keep the users coming to them. They completely understand, how advertising to the "instant gratification" miner
works. That's why Slush is now advertised as "The World's First Bitcoin Mining Pool to Support Asicboost". They worked
very closely with Halongmining, and their Marketing team, to ensure Slush would get the Lion's Share of DragonMint users.
Hell, Halongmining doesn't even advertise the for pool they test their equipment on, and that pool operator wrote their software.
They know users are Familiar with the name--Slush. They can appear to be Trustworthy to consumers, if Slush vouched for them.
It's a Corporate Win/Win that made Millions of dollars.

All the while, users see the pool plow through blocks, and they get their daily payouts. However, are they getting their fair share???
Do they even notice, or suspect any foul play??? Do any of them question how Trustful, the "World's First" is??? Probably not, and
that Corporate Committee understands that, as long as the user is receiving, what the online calculator tells them they SHOULD
earn, nobody will bat an eye. Most of their users have very little knowledge, of what their equipment ACTUALLY does. They just
buy it, hook it up, add Flush as their pool of choice and BOOM!!! They're the owner of a Magical Money Machine, just like the one
they read about online.

Ignorance is Bliss!!!



that's the case of many other pools too
full member
Activity: 350
Merit: 158
#takeminingback
In reference to the whole Flush, oops, Slush debacle:

The only reason that Pool got sooo big, ultimately, is Familiarity. Far too many people buy equipment, THEN research what
pool to join. They do a google search, and quickly identify Slush as " The World's First Bitcoin Mining Pool". Instantaneously
they think, it has to be the best because, it's the first, and it's soo big. Slush must be Trustworthy.

After joining, the user is mesmerized by the sleek gui, and the instant gratification of a daily payout, which every online
calculator makes them believe they must get. Most feel a sense of false security watching the blocks being found, one after
another, not ever understanding or learning what really happens "behind the scenes" of that slick gui. To them, everything
is simply "plug and play" and Slush is on call running the "boards".

It's at that point of blissful ignorance, that they are actually being taken advantage of, by a Corporate Committee. The users
don't realize, Slush, is comparable to The Wizard of Oz. Sure, he did start a Cooperative Mining effort, and began laying the
foundation for Pools, but he took the money and run, so to say. The reigns were handed over to a Committee. Slush went on
to other areas, and focused his time on Hardware Wallets. He just gets Royalties for "his" name at this point. That Committee
completely controls the pool, from behind the curtain of Slush's namesake.

Meanwhile, at Slushpool, the Committee focused on Growth. That's where things like Mass advertising, and a slick gui paid
off in spades. Imagine if you will, how much money that Committee earns, from that 2% fee. That's surely going to motivate
them, to keep the users coming to them. They completely understand, how advertising to the "instant gratification" miner
works. That's why Slush is now advertised as "The World's First Bitcoin Mining Pool to Support Asicboost". They worked
very closely with Halongmining, and their Marketing team, to ensure Slush would get the Lion's Share of DragonMint users.
Hell, Halongmining doesn't even advertise for the pool they test their equipment on, and that pool operator wrote their software.
They know users are Familiar with the name--Slush. They can appear to be Trustworthy to consumers, if Slush vouched for them.
It's a Corporate Win/Win that made Millions of dollars.

All the while, users see the pool plow through blocks, and they get their daily payouts. However, are they getting their fair share???
Do they even notice, or suspect any foul play??? Do any of them question how Trustful, the "World's First" is??? Probably not, and
that Corporate Committee understands that, as long as the user is receiving, what the online calculator tells them they SHOULD
earn, nobody will bat an eye. Most of their users have very little knowledge, of what their equipment ACTUALLY does. They just
buy it, hook it up, add Flush as their pool of choice and BOOM!!! They're the owner of a Magical Money Machine, just like the one
they read about online.

Ignorance is Bliss!!!

full member
Activity: 500
Merit: 105
Anyone here got any experience/advice to running a miner off a wifi hotspot?

I am running few miners using pi3, wifi to LAN + switch to connect multiple miners.
working great.
member
Activity: 285
Merit: 10
Free mining equipment tracking and reporting
Anyone here got any experience/advice to running a miner off a wifi hotspot?
I have been helping my neighbor with exactly that.  He has 13 miners running on a verizon unlimited.  Not sure unlimited is important since miners do not use all that much bandwidth.  He only has about 2 bars and I actually do not know his ping times, but he is mining consistently.  The hot spot does drop off once in a while (every few days) so I built up a system that resides inside of his firewall.  The system logs in to each miner each minute and if it is below 70% hash rate (can be overriden if a board is bad), it reboots the miner.  I am also putting in a Digital Loggers Web Power Switch that has built in ping ability.  I have the verizon box, the network switch, pfsense router and miner monitoring system on this device.  The first two power cycle if the 2 minute ping to 8.8.8.8 fails twice.  The other devices power cycle if they do not ping directly.

Obviously having more bars is better for ping times and if you ever travel, it is best to have some sort of reboot system in place (Edit - even if it is your neighbor!).

oops, I just re-read and a cell hotspot is not a wifi hotspot is it!  Oh well, the power switch still may be helpful to some here.  Mine On!
newbie
Activity: 65
Merit: 0
Anyone here got any experience/advice to running a miner off a wifi hotspot?
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