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Was there a payment made from the Kano pool for .0001 BTC @ approximately 6:18 AM EST May 29?

It was only for $0.05, but I have no idea where it came from.

It doesn't show on the "Payments" page.

Anyone else get a mystery nickel?

Let's find some BLOCKS! Grin

+1

I also got it, not sure why. I'll read back the thread in case it was expected.

It seems many people did.

https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/15ac7b673182c4e2edd09d509ca10c6ac6563d0ffe62192a48468496befe21e0

Spammers regularly harvest addresses from block explorers and send minuscule amounts to them. This is one example and didn't come from the pool.

Really? Wow. Is there any danger from them sending coins to an account?
Thanks for the info!

Edit: What do they gain since a person cannot really tell where it came from? Is it just to verify an account is active at that address?
Very interesting.

-ck

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 29, 2016, 11:52:53 AM

Was there a payment made from the Kano pool for .0001 BTC @ approximately 6:18 AM EST May 29?

It was only for $0.05, but I have no idea where it came from.

It doesn't show on the "Payments" page.

Anyone else get a mystery nickel?

Let's find some BLOCKS! Grin

+1

I also got it, not sure why. I'll read back the thread in case it was expected.

It seems many people did.

https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/15ac7b673182c4e2edd09d509ca10c6ac6563d0ffe62192a48468496befe21e0

Spammers regularly harvest addresses from block explorers and send minuscule amounts to them. This is one example and didn't come from the pool.

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Quick question on dust now that we are up to 42 ph or more.

What hash rate is needed to not be dust.

2th?

I ask as I have 1 lone s-7 running on one account.

I have it clocked to 3800 gh.

For,noise heat and power control.

I don't know the answer to your question, but my "dust payment" was probably not because of low hash rate as I have ~ 14TH from my three S7's on a single account.

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Quick question on dust now that we are up to 42 ph or more.

What hash rate is needed to not be dust.

2th?

I ask as I have 1 lone s-7 running on one account.

I have it clocked to 3800 gh.

For,noise heat and power control.

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Quote from: clgrissom3 on May 29, 2016, 11:46:32 AM

Block by kranium!

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Carl, aka Sonny :)

Block by kranium, his 5th on Kano!

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Quote from: firetreeactual on May 29, 2016, 10:57:12 AM

Was there a payment made from the Kano pool for .0001 BTC @ approximately 6:18 AM EST May 29?

It was only for $0.05, but I have no idea where it came from.

It doesn't show on the "Payments" page.

Anyone else get a mystery nickel?

Let's find some BLOCKS! Grin

+1

I also got it, not sure why. I'll read back the thread in case it was expected.

It seems many people did.

https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/15ac7b673182c4e2edd09d509ca10c6ac6563d0ffe62192a48468496befe21e0

My Core is still reconstituting from the OS reinstall...so I don't know if anything has come in at the moment. It'll probably take until this afternoon (8hrs or so). My first guess is dust. We'll find out when Kano gets his PepsiMax in a few hours. Cool

My thoughts also since other pool members received it.
Good luck with the OS.

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Quote from: kano on May 29, 2016, 08:00:28 AM

Was there a payment made from the Kano pool for .0001 BTC @ approximately 6:18 AM EST May 29?

It was only for $0.05, but I have no idea where it came from.

It doesn't show on the "Payments" page.

Anyone else get a mystery nickel?

Let's find some BLOCKS! Grin

+1

I also got it, not sure why. I'll read back the thread in case it was expected.

It seems many people did.

https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/15ac7b673182c4e2edd09d509ca10c6ac6563d0ffe62192a48468496befe21e0

My Core is still reconstituting from the OS reinstall...so I don't know if anything has come in at the moment. It'll probably take until this afternoon (8hrs or so). My first guess is dust. We'll find out when Kano gets his PepsiMax in a few hours. Cool

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Quote from: yvcea on May 28, 2016, 08:40:22 PM

I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

...
Description   Time   MeanTx%   Diff%   Mean%   CDF[Erl]   Luck%
Last 50 Blocks   10.4days   101.5%   88.48%   88.47%   0.2116   113.03%
Last 100 Blocks   25.4days   101.4%   98.73%   99.48%   0.4924   100.53%
Last 250 Blocks   8.4wks   101.3%   94.23%   94.14%   0.1779   106.22%
...

Wow I now understand pretty well what luck means!!! I am following the luck increase in the last 5, then last 10 when more blocks arrived. I now also understand why I have to see it in the long term!

Now, how to really understand the DIFF%?

Mean% is the number of interest, Diff% is for curiosity only.

However, a single block's Diff% is:
total 1diff shares submitted / expected 1diff shares per block

So at the moment the expected 1diff shares per block (called the network difficulty) is 199,312,067,531.243 (199G)
If we find a block after 99.5G then the Diff% would be 99.5G/199G = 50%
That's 'good luck' since we found it faster than 'expected' (is was quicker)
If we find a block after 398G then the Diff% would be 398G/199G = 200%
That's 'bad luck' since we found it slower than 'expected' (it took longer)

If we find 3 blocks, 50%, 100% and 150% Diff then the Mean% of those 3 would be 100%

Luck is (nonsensically) given the inverse of that by other pools, so I display luck that way also:
199G/99.5G = 200% luck
199G/398G = 50% luck
Most people seem to think bigger is always better ...

Luck% over a range of blocks is simply 1/Mean%

Mahalo, Kano...that was helpful.

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Was there a payment made from the Kano pool for .0001 BTC @ approximately 6:18 AM EST May 29?

It was only for $0.05, but I have no idea where it came from.

It doesn't show on the "Payments" page.

Anyone else get a mystery nickel?

Let's find some BLOCKS! Grin

+1

I also got it, not sure why. I'll read back the thread in case it was expected.

It seems many people did.

https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/15ac7b673182c4e2edd09d509ca10c6ac6563d0ffe62192a48468496befe21e0

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Quote from: yvcea on May 28, 2016, 08:40:22 PM

Was there a payment made from the Kano pool for .0001 BTC @ approximately 6:18 AM EST May 29?

It was only for $0.05, but I have no idea where it came from.

It doesn't show on the "Payments" page.

Anyone else get a mystery nickel?

Let's find some BLOCKS! Grin

+1

I also got it, not sure why. I'll read back the thread in case it was expected.

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Was there a payment made from the Kano pool for .0001 BTC @ approximately 6:18 AM EST May 29?

It was only for $0.05, but I have no idea where it came from.

It doesn't show on the "Payments" page.

Anyone else get a mystery nickel?

Let's find some BLOCKS! Grin

Edit:

Weird, it looks like many people also received that .0001 BTC.

https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/15ac7b673182c4e2edd09d509ca10c6ac6563d0ffe62192a48468496befe21e0

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Quote from: yvcea on May 28, 2016, 08:40:22 PM

I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

...
Description   Time   MeanTx%   Diff%   Mean%   CDF[Erl]   Luck%
Last 50 Blocks   10.4days   101.5%   88.48%   88.47%   0.2116   113.03%
Last 100 Blocks   25.4days   101.4%   98.73%   99.48%   0.4924   100.53%
Last 250 Blocks   8.4wks   101.3%   94.23%   94.14%   0.1779   106.22%
...

Wow I now understand pretty well what luck means!!! I am following the luck increase in the last 5, then last 10 when more blocks arrived. I now also understand why I have to see it in the long term!

Now, how to really understand the DIFF%?

Mean% is the number of interest, Diff% is for curiosity only.

However, a single block's Diff% is:
total 1diff shares submitted / expected 1diff shares per block

So at the moment the expected 1diff shares per block (called the network difficulty) is 199,312,067,531.243 (199G)
If we find a block after 99.5G then the Diff% would be 99.5G/199G = 50%
That's 'good luck' since we found it faster than 'expected' (is was quicker)
If we find a block after 398G then the Diff% would be 398G/199G = 200%
That's 'bad luck' since we found it slower than 'expected' (it took longer)

If we find 3 blocks, 50%, 100% and 150% Diff then the Mean% of those 3 would be 100%

Luck is (nonsensically) given the inverse of that by other pools, so I display luck that way also:
199G/99.5G = 200% luck
199G/398G = 50% luck
Most people seem to think bigger is always better ...

Luck% over a range of blocks is simply 1/Mean%

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I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

Look past the daily variance at a little longer time period than one day. Wait a bit and put one week / two week of payouts into an excel file and average.

On the blocks page, pick a stats row. Construct the earning sentence like this:

If I had mined here for the last [Time] days I would earn close to [Luck %] of the theoretical equipment earnings.

ex:
Description   Time   MeanTx%   Diff%   Mean%   CDF[Erl]   Luck%
Last 50 Blocks   10.4days   101.5%   88.48%   88.47%   0.2116   113.03%
Last 100 Blocks   25.4days   101.4%   98.73%   99.48%   0.4924   100.53%
Last 250 Blocks   8.4wks   101.3%   94.23%   94.14%   0.1779   106.22%

If I had mined here for the last 10.4 days I would earn close to 113% of the theoretical equipment earnings.
If I had mined here for the last 25.4 days I would earn close to 100% of the theoretical equipment earnings.
If I had mined here for the last 8.4 wks I would earn close to 106% of the theoretical equipment earnings.

pps pools that pay regularly like the one you mention is fixed @ about 92-96% of theoretical.

Wow I now understand pretty well what luck means!!! I am following the luck increase in the last 5, then last 10 when more blocks arrived. I now also understand why I have to see it in the long term!

Now, how to really understand the DIFF%?

read my diff thread contests in speculation section.

they give a running track for more then a year with a lot of info on how to calculate realtime diff rates etc.

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