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philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: citronick on May 26, 2016, 05:25:30 AM

Meanwhile..... dreamer's block after 9 hours.... only +39 confirms..... must be a slow day at BTC mountain.
I recall we did have a similar slow confirm condition awhile back, not often but when it comes, it's slow as snail.
Is there any technical reasons for slow confirmations or is it just a slow day overall.

Well a large data center /farm could be down for repair or retooling.
But look at the network on the chart below.

2,200ph peak on the 23rd now 1,200ph on the 26th

That is an amazing swing in hash rate.

wolfen

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Looks like antpoo luck has gone vertical DOWN.
Lower than it has been since January.
Screaming down.

citronick

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---- winter*juvia -----

Meanwhile..... dreamer's block after 9 hours.... only +39 confirms..... must be a slow day at BTC mountain.
I recall we did have a similar slow confirm condition awhile back, not often but when it comes, it's slow as snail.
Is there any technical reasons for slow confirmations or is it just a slow day overall.

Crispyato

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I think you just consider the basics new guy. Kano pool your gonna have some good luck at a size where your piece of the pie is nice. Large PPS pool its never much more than estimated. The lucky days make up for the bad days and you have a potential some very lucky days in Kano. Sometimes those lucky days are pretty close together and you make WAY more than could ever make mining PPS. If frequent payments make you feel safer go mine PPS. IMO No risk, no reward. The more guarantee you have of frequent payment, the lesser the chance of higher earnings. Plus one HUGE benefits of Kano, 5nd. If there is a blackout after you held through some bad luck and the blocks pour in while you are down. You will still be getting a nice percentage of what you put in. I can't tell you how many times I was mining Slush and the power went out I lost much needed pay for power. CGminer devs and a responsive Pool operator. Check organofcorti links and read his blog. If don't wanna do that look at your test results. In 2012 I used to assess a pool pointing my miners there for 1 week. You need at least a month these days. Just whatever you do think about all the factors to make your comparison. If I am in one club and I go join another. I'm not going to raise my hand and say " hey guys the results here are not as good in one day as this other one I was in..." You can look at last 50, 100 blocks or whatever. Those won't determine what the next 50 or 100 will be. Go read some back organofcorti pool reports to get an idea, but things always change so maybe use better judgment factors. Trust is #1 in pool picking IMO. Kano and ck are pretty rad smart and trustworthy.

organofcorti it was cool to see your reports used in Forbes...

organofcorti

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Poor impulse control.

Quote from: kano on May 25, 2016, 11:23:25 PM

Edit: PPS is expected to pay you less for 2 extra reasons:
1) The fees on a PPS pool must be higher to avoid the risk of the pool going broke.
There's a document about that requirement of higher fees, by the other stats guy: Meni ... something (I can't remember his exact name Tongue

)

2) The reward doesn't include transaction fees, which here seems to average over 1% quite well, for quite a while ... as the block stats shows.

Meni Rosenfeld. He has a couple of good papers: http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AND+meni+rosenfeld/0/1/0/all/0/1

but this one is about pooled mining reward methods: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.4980v1.pdf

The date is correct. Pooled reward methods were investigated a long time ago, which is why it frustrates me (and kano and everyone else who has been here for a while) to see the same fallacies come up so regularly .

kano

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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

Firstly, posting the block history of another pool is pointless (I deleted it)

Ignoring the fact that you are posting about another pool there and nothing else:
A pool that finds more blocks than another pool means zero with regards to long term reward, unless the smaller pool doesn't find a few blocks each diff rise.

A pool that finds more blocks will have lower expected variance.

However, the reward you get will be dependant upon 4 things:
1) Fees
2) Pool random luck.
3) Pool management of block changes (and block distribution)
4) Pool management of withholding miners.

Only one of those is out of the pool's control. "2)"

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Edit: PPS is expected to pay you less for 2 extra reasons:
1) The fees on a PPS pool must be higher to avoid the risk of the pool going broke.
There's a document about that requirement of higher fees, by the other stats guy: Meni ... something (I can't remember his exact name Tongue

)

2) The reward doesn't include transaction fees, which here seems to average over 1% quite well, for quite a while ... as the block stats shows.

yvcea

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Quote from: vh on May 25, 2016, 10:55:17 PM

Quote from: yvcea on May 25, 2016, 09:11:55 PM

I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

Look past the daily variance at a little longer time period than one day. Wait a bit and put one week / two week of payouts into an excel file and average.

On the blocks page, pick a stats row. Construct the earning sentence like this:

If I had mined here for the last [Time] days I would earn close to [Luck %] of the theoretical equipment earnings.

ex:
Description   Time   MeanTx%   Diff%   Mean%   CDF[Erl]   Luck%
Last 50 Blocks   10.4days   101.5%   88.48%   88.47%   0.2116   113.03%
Last 100 Blocks   25.4days   101.4%   98.73%   99.48%   0.4924   100.53%
Last 250 Blocks   8.4wks   101.3%   94.23%   94.14%   0.1779   106.22%

If I had mined here for the last 10.4 days I would earn close to 113% of the theoretical equipment earnings.
If I had mined here for the last 25.4 days I would earn close to 100% of the theoretical equipment earnings.
If I had mined here for the last 8.4 wks I would earn close to 106% of the theoretical equipment earnings.

pps pools that pay regularly like the one you mention is fixed @ about 92-96% of theoretical.

BTW another question comes to my mind: even using that pool with no fees and PPNLS mode?

yvcea

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Quote from: vh on May 25, 2016, 10:55:17 PM

Quote from: yvcea on May 25, 2016, 09:11:55 PM

I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

Look past the daily variance at a little longer time period than one day. Wait a bit and put one week / two week of payouts into an excel file and average.

On the blocks page, pick a stats row. Construct the earning sentence like this:

If I had mined here for the last [Time] days I would earn close to [Luck %] of the theoretical equipment earnings.

ex:
Description   Time   MeanTx%   Diff%   Mean%   CDF[Erl]   Luck%
Last 50 Blocks   10.4days   101.5%   88.48%   88.47%   0.2116   113.03%
Last 100 Blocks   25.4days   101.4%   98.73%   99.48%   0.4924   100.53%
Last 250 Blocks   8.4wks   101.3%   94.23%   94.14%   0.1779   106.22%

If I had mined here for the last 10.4 days I would earn close to 113% of the theoretical equipment earnings.
If I had mined here for the last 25.4 days I would earn close to 100% of the theoretical equipment earnings.
If I had mined here for the last 8.4 wks I would earn close to 106% of the theoretical equipment earnings.

pps pools that pay regularly like the one you mention is fixed @ about 92-96% of theoretical.

Thank you! nice sentence construction to understand not just what luck means in the past, but to understand i was wrong about earnings concept on other pools.
Another important think is to keep in mind, no past luck has any kind of indication or prediction of what our pool luck will be in the net block.

Thank you!

vh

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Quote from: yvcea on May 25, 2016, 09:11:55 PM

I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

Look past the daily variance at a little longer time period than one day. Wait a bit and put one week / two week of payouts into an excel file and average.

On the blocks page, pick a stats row. Construct the earning sentence like this:

If I had mined here for the last [Time] days I would earn close to [Luck %] of the theoretical equipment earnings.

ex:
Description   Time   MeanTx%   Diff%   Mean%   CDF[Erl]   Luck%
Last 50 Blocks   10.4days   101.5%   88.48%   88.47%   0.2116   113.03%
Last 100 Blocks   25.4days   101.4%   98.73%   99.48%   0.4924   100.53%
Last 250 Blocks   8.4wks   101.3%   94.23%   94.14%   0.1779   106.22%

If I had mined here for the last 10.4 days I would earn close to 113% of the theoretical equipment earnings.
If I had mined here for the last 25.4 days I would earn close to 100% of the theoretical equipment earnings.
If I had mined here for the last 8.4 wks I would earn close to 106% of the theoretical equipment earnings.

pps pools that pay regularly like the one you mention is fixed @ about 92-96% of theoretical.

citronick

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---- winter*juvia -----

Quote from: Legacy2005 on May 25, 2016, 10:40:44 PM

Wow. I need to get a rental started or something i hate losing all these blocks.

I got 0.0024 and 0.0025 today - sweet!

It helps me in my 5ND but you need to have a disciplined rental strategy...
50% of my proceeds goes to Rental Account.
30% goes to Coinbase Vault (once in that account, its PITA to take it out).
20% other projects (ie. solo-ckpool, ETH stuff)

Legacy2005

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Wow. I need to get a rental started or something i hate losing all these blocks.

delicin33

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Quote from: yvcea on May 25, 2016, 09:11:55 PM

I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

My 3x S7 stock no OC, on ckpool from 15/4/2016 to 26/5/2016 hit Total 167 blocks Earned BTC 1.58213635 = 42 days earn avg BTC0.03766991/ day, each S7 earn avg BTC0.01255664 /day, = about BTC0.00265468 / THs

earning is above the 100% expected average 0.00258894 BTC/TH/Day ( base on clgrissom3 info).

can you share your earning at antpool for comparison?

Quote from: clgrissom3 on May 24, 2016, 05:10:21 PM

I think ckolivas was on to something here...I think someone has been doing a block withhold resubmit unattack on us over the past 2 days...our luck has been too good! LOL Grin

EDIT: Most definitely all the rats and rentals will start jumping back on when they see the crazy performance we're having now! Cheesy

EDIT2: Update...the 100% expected average is 0.00258894 BTC/TH/Day and the Kano CKPool is now at an average of 0.00276803 BTC/TH/Day.

That would put us at 106.92% for May as of that 8th block! Cheesy

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Total 167 blocks Earned [btc] 1.58213635 from 15/4/2016 to 26/5/2016 = 42 days

No. Block Block UTC Miner Reward N Diff N Range Pool N Avg Your % Your N Diff Your N Avg Your BTC

Per THs 0.00265468
Per S7 0.01255664
42 days Per Day 0.03766991
Total 1.58213635
167 413444 26/5/2016 1:16 24.94213259 1.016T 26hr 50m 32s 45.14PHs 0.03% 315.817M 14.04THs 0.00775662
166 413345 25/5/2016 10:11 25.38151351 997.293G 27hr 47m 14s 42.82PHs 0.03% 324.131M 13.92THs 0.00824926
165 413323 25/5/2016 6:21 24.79363395 1.009T 28hr 16m 48s 42.57PHs 0.03% 330.716M 13.95THs 0.00812609
164 413292 24/5/2016 23:32 25.1653517 1.017T 28hr 40m 1s 42.32PHs 0.03% 335.300M 13.95THs 0.00829748
163 413290 24/5/2016 23:01 25.41337533 998.135G 28hr 8m 43s 42.31PHs 0.03% 329.129M 13.95THs 0.00837989
162 413284 24/5/2016 21:39 25.26692576 1.001T 28hr 12m 54s 42.31PHs 0.03% 330.331M 13.97THs 0.00834119
161 413275 24/5/2016 20:40 25.0975463 992.472G 28hr 0m 22s 42.28PHs 0.03% 327.623M 13.96THs 0.00828489
160 413239 24/5/2016 14:40 24.89979476 992.144G 28hr 3m 37s 42.18PHs 0.03% 327.472M 13.92THs 0.00821854
159 413224 24/5/2016 12:04 25.11430239 995.296G 28hr 4m 40s 42.29PHs 0.03% 328.104M 13.94THs 0.00827904
158 413204 24/5/2016 9:17 25.26448402 980.227G 27hr 26m 3s 42.63PHs 0.03% 320.819M 13.95THs 0.00826882
157 413190 24/5/2016 6:23 25.18018882 980.816G 26hr 56m 53s 43.42PHs 0.03% 319.032M 14.12THs 0.00819040
156 413156 24/5/2016 2:04 25.22628012 979.818G 26hr 42m 16s 43.77PHs 0.03% 316.089M 14.12THs 0.00813798
155 413154 24/5/2016 1:43 25.21755463 994.314G 27hr 5m 38s 43.78PHs 0.03% 321.074M 14.14THs 0.00814300
154 413120 23/5/2016 18:53 25.25981122 974.937G 26hr 27m 51s 43.95PHs 0.03% 313.342M 14.13THs 0.00811842
153 413112 23/5/2016 16:40 25.22707202 978.657G 26hr 28m 51s 44.09PHs 0.03% 313.015M 14.10THs 0.00806865
152 413098 23/5/2016 13:57 24.90521519 976.097G 26hr 20m 31s 44.21PHs 0.03% 311.693M 14.12THs 0.00795286
151 413094 23/5/2016 13:30 24.92995827 987.395G 26hr 36m 47s 44.26PHs 0.03% 314.983M 14.12THs 0.00795275
150 413078 23/5/2016 11:40 25.22585873 977.948G 26hr 13m 0s 44.50PHs 0.03% 310.201M 14.12THs 0.00800154
149 413064 23/5/2016 10:36 24.78348935 971.846G 25hr 57m 34s 44.66PHs 0.03% 307.640M 14.14THs 0.00784527
148 413042 23/5/2016 9:08 25.09369032 979.389G 26hr 1m 42s 44.89PHs 0.03% 308.146M 14.12THs 0.00789524
147 413025 23/5/2016 7:16 25.5416551 994.408G 26hr 27m 35s 44.84PHs 0.03% 313.218M 14.12THs 0.00804510
146 413016 23/5/2016 5:51 24.98511129 995.013G 26hr 30m 20s 44.79PHs 0.03% 313.542M 14.11THs 0.00787314
145 412963 22/5/2016 23:43 24.83054127 979.865G 25hr 45m 35s 45.38PHs 0.03% 304.918M 14.12THs 0.00772687
144 412883 22/5/2016 11:55 24.8712187 989.973G 25hr 46m 3s 45.84PHs 0.03% 303.495M 14.05THs 0.00762473
143 412819 22/5/2016 3:21 24.91773755 971.937G 25hr 46m 13s 45.00PHs 0.03% 305.083M 14.12THs 0.00782146
142 412813 22/5/2016 2:48 24.90715764 976.876G 25hr 59m 22s 44.84PHs 0.03% 307.436M 14.11THs 0.00783861
141 412755 21/5/2016 19:36 24.99725327 973.854G 26hr 45m 52s 43.41PHs 0.03% 316.094M 14.09THs 0.00811360
140 412746 21/5/2016 18:30 24.97290692 971.400G 26hr 43m 8s 43.37PHs 0.03% 315.836M 14.10THs 0.00811955
139 412723 21/5/2016 15:23 25.07888275 986.099G 27hr 37m 24s 42.59PHs 0.03% 327.065M 14.13THs 0.00831805
138 412649 21/5/2016 0:49 25.14134718 972.924G 29hr 41m 16s 39.10PHs 0.04% 351.162M 14.11THs 0.00907438
137 412595 20/5/2016 16:06 25.24823379 978.258G 30hr 42m 36s 38.00PHs 0.04% 362.320M 14.08THs 0.00935126
136 412593 20/5/2016 15:47 25.16772717 991.243G 31hr 10m 7s 37.94PHs 0.04% 361.102M 13.82THs 0.00916839
135 412547 20/5/2016 7:06 24.85556266 985.463G 31hr 7m 23s 37.78PHs 0.04% 355.961M 13.65THs 0.00897811
134 412441 19/5/2016 15:21 25.27314164 979.517G 30hr 39m 45s 38.11PHs 0.04% 349.066M 13.58THs 0.00900648
133 412418 19/5/2016 11:31 25.00428759 976.610G 30hr 45m 16s 37.89PHs 0.04% 350.576M 13.60THs 0.00897584
132 412390 19/5/2016 5:30 25.32554374 971.282G 30hr 33m 15s 37.93PHs 0.04% 359.437M 14.03THs 0.00937210
131 412306 18/5/2016 13:20 25.07857716 991.031G 31hr 49m 18s 37.16PHs 0.04% 375.604M 14.08THs 0.00950485
130 412283 18/5/2016 10:36 25.50242489 974.919G 31hr 17m 7s 37.18PHs 0.04% 369.237M 14.08THs 0.00965868
129 412274 18/5/2016 8:42 24.99023939 973.325G 31hr 12m 55s 37.20PHs 0.04% 368.424M 14.08THs 0.00945932
128 412259 18/5/2016 6:54 25.01620095 986.504G 31hr 39m 8s 37.18PHs 0.04% 373.856M 14.09THs 0.00948040
127 412248 18/5/2016 4:45 25.36419723 979.097G 31hr 27m 1s 37.14PHs 0.04% 371.325M 14.09THs 0.00961944
126 412237 18/5/2016 2:20 25.33802824 975.851G 31hr 21m 54s 37.12PHs 0.04% 370.509M 14.09THs 0.00962029
125 412187 17/5/2016 17:32 25.05722743 994.502G 31hr 54m 34s 37.18PHs 0.04% 378.417M 14.15THs 0.00953451
124 412157 17/5/2016 12:20 25.27988034 993.556G 31hr 33m 28s 37.56PHs 0.04% 373.475M 14.12THs 0.00950264
123 412125 17/5/2016 7:44 25.60716477 980.334G 30hr 48m 50s 37.96PHs 0.04% 365.687M 14.16THs 0.00955206
122 412115 17/5/2016 5:31 25.20655869 987.202G 31hr 1m 17s 37.97PHs 0.04% 368.511M 14.17THs 0.00940930
121 412109 17/5/2016 4:21 25.45192254 976.562G 30hr 39m 26s 38.00PHs 0.04% 364.693M 14.19THs 0.00950490
120 412104 17/5/2016 3:19 25.02351819 993.452G 31hr 9m 16s 38.04PHs 0.04% 370.294M 14.18THs 0.00932712
119 412071 16/5/2016 23:15 25.08989713 992.334G 30hr 55m 43s 38.28PHs 0.04% 367.823M 14.19THs 0.00929993
118 411987 16/5/2016 8:53 25.63398501 984.328G 30hr 55m 45s 37.97PHs 0.04% 367.274M 14.17THs 0.00956458
117 411883 15/5/2016 14:45 25.16458168 973.274G 30hr 28m 57s 38.09PHs 0.04% 360.750M 14.12THs 0.00932741
116 411872 15/5/2016 12:46 25.14154486 988.553G 30hr 53m 32s 38.18PHs 0.04% 365.057M 14.10THs 0.00928437
115 411777 14/5/2016 21:23 25.02282113 981.647G 32hr 53m 31s 35.61PHs 0.04% 388.205M 14.08THs 0.00989558
114 411773 14/5/2016 20:25 24.96504603 980.215G 33hr 10m 49s 35.25PHs 0.04% 391.792M 14.09THs 0.00997854
113 411745 14/5/2016 16:35 25.20429048 976.175G 33hr 58m 57s 34.27PHs 0.04% 402.091M 14.12THs 0.01038176
112 411741 14/5/2016 15:04 24.96565803 987.993G 34hr 46m 59s 33.89PHs 0.04% 411.234M 14.11THs 0.01039150
111 411708 14/5/2016 8:48 25.23610725 985.009G 36hr 10m 6s 32.49PHs 0.04% 426.739M 14.08THs 0.01093313
110 411680 14/5/2016 3:34 25.10574814 978.419G 36hr 55m 39s 31.61PHs 0.04% 436.845M 14.11THs 0.01120923
109 411668 14/5/2016 1:53 25.18561469 984.861G 37hr 25m 42s 31.39PHs 0.04% 442.768M 14.11THs 0.01132280
108 411656 14/5/2016 0:07 25.11204797 972.629G 37hr 10m 54s 31.21PHs 0.05% 439.721M 14.11THs 0.01135303
107 411623 13/5/2016 18:37 25.54694452 982.113G 37hr 54m 38s 30.91PHs 0.05% 447.752M 14.09THs 0.01164702
106 411531 13/5/2016 4:18 24.9966504 990.471G 38hr 56m 39s 30.34PHs 0.05% 459.821M 14.09THs 0.01160455
105 411510 13/5/2016 1:04 25.19107765 988.916G 38hr 48m 57s 30.40PHs 0.05% 458.785M 14.10THs 0.01168683
104 411480 12/5/2016 19:52 24.78704238 981.123G 38hr 21m 48s 30.51PHs 0.05% 455.445M 14.16THs 0.01150633
103 411452 12/5/2016 14:39 25.08180617 974.642G 38hr 13m 29s 30.42PHs 0.05% 453.404M 14.15THs 0.01166806
102 411400 12/5/2016 7:07 24.89264446 976.440G 38hr 40m 1s 30.13PHs 0.05% 460.132M 14.20THs 0.01173027
101 411385 12/5/2016 4:43 25.24601267 979.675G 38hr 31m 22s 30.34PHs 0.05% 458.543M 14.20THs 0.01181656
100 411364 11/5/2016 23:59 24.92242155 983.247G 38hr 28m 36s 30.49PHs 0.05% 458.704M 14.22THs 0.01162681
99 411323 11/5/2016 16:46 25.36495568 974.678G 37hr 49m 51s 30.74PHs 0.05% 451.482M 14.24THs 0.01174933
98 411251 11/5/2016 2:41 24.956185 904.177G 35hr 28m 56s 30.40PHs 0.05% 421.093M 14.16THs 0.01162257
97 411246 11/5/2016 2:07 24.98398268 908.121G 35hr 38m 13s 30.40PHs 0.05% 422.688M 14.15THs 0.01162886
96 411191 10/5/2016 18:15 25.13044711 906.750G 35hr 29m 32s 30.48PHs 0.05% 420.098M 14.12THs 0.01164295
95 411152 10/5/2016 11:50 25.31858547 910.733G 35hr 55m 39s 30.24PHs 0.05% 425.248M 14.12THs 0.01182197
94 411116 10/5/2016 6:25 25.04141765 894.147G 35hr 18m 18s 30.22PHs 0.05% 417.533M 14.11THs 0.01169339
93 411093 10/5/2016 2:56 25.30034127 896.272G 35hr 31m 9s 30.10PHs 0.05% 420.246M 14.12THs 0.01186286
92 411062 9/5/2016 21:39 25.0748336 897.357G 35hr 40m 0s 30.02PHs 0.05% 422.058M 14.12THs 0.01179354
91 410901 8/5/2016 23:54 25.06577197 910.956G 35hr 20m 41s 30.75PHs 0.05% 419.357M 14.16THs 0.01153898
90 410865 8/5/2016 19:13 24.91699397 898.298G 34hr 31m 49s 31.04PHs 0.05% 409.476M 14.15THs 0.01135803
89 410864 8/5/2016 19:07 24.83795811 895.875G 34hr 25m 59s 31.04PHs 0.05% 408.350M 14.15THs 0.01132141
88 410756 8/5/2016 3:55 24.84362262 910.960G 33hr 41m 48s 32.25PHs 0.04% 398.044M 14.09THs 0.01085543
87 410747 8/5/2016 3:10 25.01506222 912.993G 33hr 43m 49s 32.29PHs 0.04% 398.661M 14.10THs 0.01092289
86 410727 7/5/2016 22:24 24.88853313 903.942G 32hr 58m 46s 32.70PHs 0.04% 388.976M 14.07THs 0.01070979
85 410594 7/5/2016 2:28 25.01057751 909.493G 32hr 44m 46s 33.14PHs 0.04% 384.370M 14.00THs 0.01056997
84 410590 7/5/2016 1:47 25.09562511 914.675G 32hr 52m 37s 33.19PHs 0.04% 385.868M 14.00THs 0.01058691
83 410553 6/5/2016 19:51 25.14472496 901.500G 32hr 22m 55s 33.21PHs 0.04% 381.034M 14.04THs 0.01062782
82 410526 6/5/2016 15:06 25.07581011 900.961G 32hr 11m 35s 33.39PHs 0.04% 379.394M 14.06THs 0.01055941
81 410397 5/5/2016 20:25 24.98753074 894.509G 31hr 4m 27s 34.34PHs 0.04% 368.076M 14.13THs 0.01028196
80 410208 4/5/2016 15:29 25.16000722 895.672G 29hr 23m 13s 36.36PHs 0.04% 348.493M 14.15THs
79 410176 4/5/2016 10:15 25.18610059 893.930G 28hr 53m 59s 36.90PHs 0.04% 343.389M 14.18THs 0.00967484
78 410067 3/5/2016 18:56 25.01554062 898.208G 28hr 34m 11s 37.51PHs 0.04% 337.272M 14.08THs 0.00939318
77 410038 3/5/2016 15:02 25.41024033 911.881G 29hr 12m 45s 37.24PHs 0.04% 346.062M 14.13THs 0.00964328
76 410032 3/5/2016 13:31 25.07598218 913.117G 29hr 16m 1s 37.22PHs 0.04% 346.445M 14.12THs 0.00951407
75 409960 3/5/2016 1:32 24.98694358 913.132G 29hr 21m 28s 37.11PHs 0.04% 346.357M 14.08THs 0.00947771
74 409895 2/5/2016 16:37 25.09323139 911.012G 29hr 0m 35s 37.47PHs 0.04% 342.415M 14.08THs 0.00943158
73 409873 2/5/2016 11:57 25.42114604 902.181G 28hr 33m 14s 37.70PHs 0.04% 336.678M 14.07THs 0.00948671
72 409853 2/5/2016 9:02 25.30150488 904.777G 28hr 46m 11s 37.52PHs 0.04% 338.864M 14.05THs 0.00947610
71 409803 2/5/2016 1:15 25.13430343 913.476G 29hr 28m 35s 36.97PHs 0.04% 347.275M 14.06THs 0.00955527
70 409760 1/5/2016 18:40 25.08955121 896.292G 29hr 13m 48s 36.58PHs 0.04% 344.908M 14.08THs 0.00965486
69 409728 1/5/2016 13:35 25.04394606 909.595G 29hr 32m 41s 36.73PHs 0.04% 348.336M 14.07THs 0.00959077
68 409721 1/5/2016 12:37 25.02056699 907.093G 29hr 23m 45s 36.81PHs 0.04% 346.474M 14.06THs 0.00955687
67 409702 1/5/2016 9:15 25.11982597 912.269G 29hr 9m 13s 37.33PHs 0.04% 344.084M 14.08THs 0.00947455
66 409592 30/4/2016 15:54 25.17775076 899.855G 26hr 37m 59s 40.31PHs 0.03% 314.709M 14.10THs 0.00880547
65 409453 29/4/2016 18:03 25.12365115 906.522G 27hr 27m 35s 39.39PHs 0.04% 324.556M 14.10THs 0.00899486
64 409446 29/4/2016 17:15 25.00638791 899.005G 27hr 20m 9s 39.24PHs 0.04% 323.239M 14.11THs 0.00899108
63 409287 28/4/2016 15:37 25.67225217 910.011G 27hr 3m 10s 40.13PHs 0.03% 317.006M 13.98THs 0.00894301
62 409284 28/4/2016 14:35 25.21066608 902.585G 26hr 45m 43s 40.24PHs 0.03% 313.654M 13.98THs 0.00876087
61 409225 28/4/2016 4:53 24.99319508 906.091G 26hr 54m 54s 40.16PHs 0.04% 318.442M 14.12THs 0.00878375
60 409158 27/4/2016 15:57 25.32558476 910.873G 27hr 29m 4s 39.54PHs 0.04% 323.570M 14.05THs 0.00899641
59 409157 27/4/2016 15:45 25.55104247 904.301G 27hr 16m 56s 39.54PHs 0.04% 321.177M 14.05THs 0.00907486
58 409130 27/4/2016 11:05 25.08530055 899.712G 27hr 16m 44s 39.35PHs 0.04% 320.565M 14.02THs 0.00893782
57 409112 27/4/2016 7:57 25.24292047 920.010G 28hr 6m 24s 39.05PHs 0.04% 331.165M 14.06THs 0.00908638
56 409108 27/4/2016 7:25 25.11426863 901.933G 27hr 34m 40s 39.02PHs 0.04% 324.825M 14.05THs 0.00904472
55 409100 27/4/2016 6:26 25.76185411 919.352G 28hr 6m 45s 39.02PHs 0.04% 331.226M 14.06THs 0.00928152
54 409066 26/4/2016 23:37 24.94429725 908.226G 27hr 26m 19s 39.49PHs 0.04% 323.227M 14.05THs 0.00887737
53 409062 26/4/2016 23:15 24.950033 895.784G 27hr 4m 14s 39.48PHs 0.04% 318.860M 14.05THs 0.00888111
52 408929 26/4/2016 1:34 24.94088762 913.533G 28hr 24m 13s 38.37PHs 0.04% 337.708M 14.18THs 0.00921995
51 408897 25/4/2016 20:10 25.03157317 914.413G 28hr 47m 58s 37.88PHs 0.04% 341.985M 14.17THs 0.00936166
50 408893 25/4/2016 19:45 24.78105111 900.269G 28hr 22m 12s 37.86PHs 0.04% 337.050M 14.17THs 0.00927772
49 408887 25/4/2016 18:23 25.17471901 907.362G 28hr 35m 18s 37.87PHs 0.04% 339.692M 14.18THs 0.00942475
48 408877 25/4/2016 16:58 25.2823766 914.083G 28hr 46m 32s 37.90PHs 0.04% 342.073M 14.18THs 0.00946130
47 408861 25/4/2016 13:49 25.50099556 895.923G 28hr 2m 11s 38.12PHs 0.04% 332.039M 14.13THs 0.00945095
46 408845 25/4/2016 11:14 25.04678048 908.211G 28hr 26m 38s 38.09PHs 0.04% 336.580M 14.12THs 0.00928226
45 408802 25/4/2016 1:54 25.32361936 908.410G 28hr 1m 30s 38.67PHs 0.04% 331.109M 14.10THs 0.00923027
44 408760 24/4/2016 18:54 24.98813574 915.565G 27hr 38m 46s 39.51PHs 0.04% 326.684M 14.10THs 0.00891605
43 408702 24/4/2016 7:26 25.10350124 903.784G 27hr 9m 25s 39.70PHs 0.04% 321.052M 14.10THs 0.00891752
42 408692 24/4/2016 5:12 24.89217823 916.001G 27hr 16m 16s 40.07PHs 0.04% 322.628M 14.11THs 0.00876737
41 408679 24/4/2016 3:26 25.1658622 914.793G 27hr 2m 35s 40.36PHs 0.03% 319.442M 14.09THs 0.00878780
40 408670 24/4/2016 1:58 25.22180576 894.453G 26hr 23m 32s 40.43PHs 0.03% 311.249M 14.07THs 0.00877659
39 408629 23/4/2016 18:45 24.88946448 909.361G 27hr 24m 10s 39.59PHs 0.04% 322.278M 14.03THs 0.00882084
38 408575 23/4/2016 10:37 24.99788304 918.946G 28hr 27m 4s 38.53PHs 0.04% 334.569M 14.03THs 0.00910120
37 408565 23/4/2016 9:03 24.99373459 915.411G 28hr 26m 14s 38.40PHs 0.04% 333.610M 14.00THs 0.00910863
36 408490 22/4/2016 20:32 24.95785587 916.584G 29hr 2m 1s 37.66PHs 0.04% 342.744M 14.08THs 0.00933264
35 408485 22/4/2016 20:14 24.96985537 906.907G 28hr 43m 45s 37.66PHs 0.04% 339.019M 14.08THs 0.00933421
34 408426 22/4/2016 10:39 25.01409291 903.025G 28hr 31m 18s 37.77PHs 0.04% 337.266M 14.11THs 0.00934239
33 408407 22/4/2016 6:57 24.96369611 909.948G 28hr 52m 2s 37.61PHs 0.04% 342.685M 14.16THs 0.00940129
32 408395 22/4/2016 4:37 25.28405735 907.654G 28hr 52m 42s 37.50PHs 0.04% 343.735M 14.20THs 0.00957525
31 408392 22/4/2016 4:11 25.30613726 893.503G 28hr 27m 12s 37.46PHs 0.04% 338.777M 14.20THs 0.00959496
30 408373 22/4/2016 0:19 25.24461736 906.960G 29hr 15m 48s 36.98PHs 0.04% 347.863M 14.18THs 0.00968251
29 408368 21/4/2016 23:25 25.08589425 899.347G 29hr 2m 53s 36.94PHs 0.04% 345.211M 14.18THs 0.00962913
28 408360 21/4/2016 22:25 24.90734485 916.577G 29hr 40m 11s 36.86PHs 0.04% 352.530M 14.18THs 0.00957974
27 408341 21/4/2016 19:09 24.94680087 903.134G 29hr 28m 33s 36.55PHs 0.04% 349.902M 14.16THs 0.00966516
26 408247 21/4/2016 4:37 24.86406037 914.520G 30hr 20m 37s 35.96PHs 0.04% 359.700M 14.14THs 0.00977954
25 408238 21/4/2016 3:16 25.10680749 895.594G 29hr 48m 3s 35.85PHs 0.04% 352.813M 14.12THs 0.00989065
24 408220 20/4/2016 23:44 24.87973077 900.973G 30hr 15m 15s 35.53PHs 0.04% 356.885M 14.07THs 0.00985513
23 408204 20/4/2016 21:30 24.97983089 903.431G 30hr 20m 32s 35.52PHs 0.04% 358.836M 14.11THs 0.00992179
22 408172 20/4/2016 18:22 24.93481366 902.902G 30hr 18m 47s 35.54PHs 0.04% 358.523M 14.11THs 0.00990107
21 408120 20/4/2016 10:32 25.18059672 908.563G 30hr 14m 35s 35.84PHs 0.04% 357.730M 14.11THs 0.00991440
20 408102 20/4/2016 7:02 25.25840154 913.248G 30hr 28m 29s 35.75PHs 0.04% 359.993M 14.09THs 0.00995661
19 408026 19/4/2016 18:22 25.00513137 905.874G 30hr 24m 41s 35.54PHs 0.04% 361.790M 14.19THs 0.00998659
18 407989 19/4/2016 12:03 24.94276248 895.952G 30hr 28m 14s 35.08PHs 0.04% 362.885M 14.21THs 0.01010251
17 407917 19/4/2016 1:58 25.29100028 909.039G 31hr 32m 38s 34.38PHs 0.04% 381.508M 14.43THs 0.01061420
16 407841 18/4/2016 11:57 24.88895366 916.946G 31hr 54m 36s 34.28PHs 0.04% 363.268M 13.58THs 0.00986030
15 407789 18/4/2016 3:14 25.10875381 909.214G 31hr 36m 38s 34.32PHs 0.04% 360.341M 13.60THs 0.00995112
14 407776 18/4/2016 1:00 24.8593724 893.499G 30hr 58m 28s 34.41PHs 0.04% 352.871M 13.59THs 0.00981775
13 407751 17/4/2016 21:01 24.8797652 901.107G 31hr 10m 52s 34.48PHs 0.04% 354.383M 13.56THs 0.00978457
12 407704 17/4/2016 12:59 24.85005663 912.527G 31hr 42m 59s 34.33PHs 0.04% 336.478M 12.66THs 0.00916301
11 407673 17/4/2016 7:28 24.79854154 897.995G 31hr 13m 55s 34.30PHs 0.04% 349.780M 13.36THs 0.00965933
10 407632 17/4/2016 1:45 24.78325963 896.613G 31hr 25m 4s 34.05PHs 0.04% 356.296M 13.53THs 0.00984836
9 407575 16/4/2016 16:31 25.22279459 894.862G 31hr 27m 58s 33.93PHs 0.04% 354.593M 13.44THs 0.00999462
8 407574 16/4/2016 16:17 25.32027013 912.186G 32hr 3m 1s 33.96PHs 0.04% 361.282M 13.45THs 0.01002839
7 407505 16/4/2016 5:16 25.42265368 902.964G 31hr 40m 15s 34.01PHs 0.04% 379.409M 14.29THs 0.01068213
6 407480 16/4/2016 0:57 25.16299327 916.518G 32hr 3m 38s 34.11PHs 0.04% 382.835M 14.25THs 0.01051073
5 407468 15/4/2016 22:41 25.05413681 896.184G 31hr 19m 20s 34.14PHs 0.04% 372.100M 14.17THs 0.01040260
4 407467 15/4/2016 22:28 24.84924217 911.677G 31hr 51m 51s 34.13PHs 0.04% 370.386M 13.87THs 0.01009546
3 407430 15/4/2016 15:58 25.14735906 910.077G 31hr 38m 10s 34.32PHs 0.03% 292.582M 11.03THs 0.00808465
2 407417 15/4/2016 14:28 25.06633893 897.798G 31hr 11m 53s 34.33PHs 0.03% 274.977M 10.52THs 0.00767729
1 407373 15/4/2016 5:56 24.99791266 907.788G 32hr 9m 27s 33.68PHs 0.02% 172.746M 6.41THs 0.00475692

kano

legendary

Activity: 4634

Merit: 1851

Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

I got a question about stats.

I thought I'd post the answer here in case anyone else was wondering

--

Mining statistics is similar to a casino's statistics.
It's all based on random probability.

Mining has the advantage that, unlike a casino, you aren't expected to lose, but only:
If your costs are less than the pool's expected return, then you are expected to win, of course, while that is true.

That leads to 2 questions:
1) What is a pool's expected return?
2) Is that actually correct? Tongue

Answers:
1) I've listed ours here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14959506
2) For most pools, it's not correct, or they ignore, obscure or hide details.

I don't teach statistics or maths.
If you know someone who understands the maths of why you are expected to lose at a casino, they should be able to help you understand the statistics of mining and if you can expect to win.

This page helps also:
http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php

yvcea

newbie

Activity: 54

Merit: 0

Quote from: kano on May 25, 2016, 09:32:37 PM

Quote from: yvcea on May 25, 2016, 09:28:16 PM

Quote from: kano on May 25, 2016, 09:26:37 PM

Quote from: yvcea on May 25, 2016, 09:11:55 PM

I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

No.
Anyone comparing payouts on a single day, and not taking into consideration any history, yes I suggest you mine somewhere.

Ok, Iam new on it. Trying to learn about it... I'll keep here

Well considering before the one current block, we had 21 blocks straight under 126% and 15 of those under 51% ...
Yeah a little maths (and the web page) explains my response Tongue

Sorry Mr Kano:
What do you mean by being below 126% and 51%? So I can think being lower on that percentage is the best for us?

thedreamer

legendary

Activity: 1694

Merit: 1002

Go Big or Go Home.....

Quote from: kano on May 25, 2016, 09:32:37 PM

Quote from: yvcea on May 25, 2016, 09:28:16 PM

Quote from: kano on May 25, 2016, 09:26:37 PM

Quote from: yvcea on May 25, 2016, 09:11:55 PM

I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

No.
Anyone comparing payouts on a single day, and not taking into consideration any history, yes I suggest you mine somewhere.

Ok, Iam new on it. Trying to learn about it... I'll keep here

Well considering before the one current block, we had 21 blocks straight under 126% and 15 of those under 51% ...
Yeah a little maths (and the web page) explains my response Tongue

This.

kano

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Activity: 4634

Merit: 1851

Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

Quote from: yvcea on May 25, 2016, 09:28:16 PM

Quote from: kano on May 25, 2016, 09:26:37 PM

Quote from: yvcea on May 25, 2016, 09:11:55 PM

I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

No.
Anyone comparing payouts on a single day, and not taking into consideration any history, yes I suggest you mine somewhere.

Ok, Iam new on it. Trying to learn about it... I'll keep here

Well considering before the one current block, we had 21 blocks straight under 126% and 15 of those under 51% ...
Yeah a little maths (and the web page) explains my response Tongue

yvcea

newbie

Activity: 54

Merit: 0

Quote from: kano on May 25, 2016, 09:26:37 PM

Quote from: yvcea on May 25, 2016, 09:11:55 PM

I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

No.
Anyone comparing payouts on a single day, and not taking into consideration any history, yes I suggest you mine somewhere.

Ok, Iam new on it. Trying to learn about it... I'll keep here

kano

legendary

Activity: 4634

Merit: 1851

Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

Quote from: yvcea on May 25, 2016, 09:11:55 PM

I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

No.
Anyone comparing payouts on a single day, and not taking into consideration any history, yes I suggest you mine somewhere.

yvcea

newbie

Activity: 54

Merit: 0

I see in order to keep my income levels compared to earns on antpool i should receive at least 1 block per machine, so: 6 blocks a day... Bad day today for us!

wolfen

hero member

Activity: 770

Merit: 523

Thedreamer rocks it baby!

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