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philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: delicin33 on May 09, 2016, 09:42:41 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 09, 2016, 09:07:03 PM

Quote from: firetreeactual on May 09, 2016, 09:00:23 PM

Mahalo for the info. Seems to be working just fine at 725 w/.0001% HW and boards at 60/60/64. Going to leave it there, I think, through the day tomorrow when temps go up here, and monitor. If I see it's stable for a couple of days I'll then maybe try the Batch 16...but it already runs 60/62/65 w/.0003% HW without any tweaking.

those are solid numbers just watch for temps. as 64 is close to a safe max.

do you have fans set to 65%?

the newer batch has 1 fan so I would play with fan number's

  see what 55% = in rpm
  see what 60% = in rpm
  see what 65% = in rpm

go up to 80% as I think 80% is the max fan speed not 100% (I don't have a 1 fan s-7 so I am not sure.)

BTW I spent time in the USN 5 years 1978 to 1983

i have 3 s7 with 1 fan, my fan speed all set to max 100% = 5880 rpm, no choice the temp. here now is 35'C.

set to 90%

then tell us rpm please at 90%

if rpm does drop to 5500 at 90% check the temps very carefully.

basically fans at max rpm and fans at just under max rpm cool the same.

ie a fan running at 5500 rpm should do the same as a fan at 5880 rpm.

and that slight underclock makes fan last a lot longer.

It is a sweet spot all fans have it and it depends on the fan and the heat sink pattern.

If you can run the fan at 5500 rpm vs 5880 rpm and not overheat you will save some money.

firetreeactual

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Quote from: delicin33 on May 09, 2016, 09:42:41 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 09, 2016, 09:07:03 PM

Quote from: firetreeactual on May 09, 2016, 09:00:23 PM

Mahalo for the info. Seems to be working just fine at 725 w/.0001% HW and boards at 60/60/64. Going to leave it there, I think, through the day tomorrow when temps go up here, and monitor. If I see it's stable for a couple of days I'll then maybe try the Batch 16...but it already runs 60/62/65 w/.0003% HW without any tweaking.

those are solid numbers just watch for temps. as 64 is close to a safe max.

do you have fans set to 65%?

the newer batch has 1 fan so I would play with fan number's

  see what 55% = in rpm
  see what 60% = in rpm
  see what 65% = in rpm

go up to 80% as I think 80% is the max fan speed not 100% (I don't have a 1 fan s-7 so I am not sure.)

BTW I spent time in the USN 5 years 1978 to 1983

i have 3 s7 with 1 fan, my fan speed all set to max 100% = 5880 rpm, no choice the temp. here now is 35'C.

I haven't messed with the fan speed. So far I've got both the 2-fan B12 and the 1-fan B16 running at 725 w/good hw numbers. The B16 is, of course, running slightly warmer but the boards are at 60/62/65 steady on it; the B12 is running 59/59/62. However, each machine has its own insulated forced air corridor on the rack; they each get around 2,500 cfm straight through, one fan pushing and one sucking to the outside. Works pretty well.

firetreeactual

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Yowza!

fvineyard

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I second the celebration of another block!

Yay!

kano

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Block. Yay under 100% Diff

delicin33

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 09, 2016, 09:07:03 PM

Quote from: firetreeactual on May 09, 2016, 09:00:23 PM

Mahalo for the info. Seems to be working just fine at 725 w/.0001% HW and boards at 60/60/64. Going to leave it there, I think, through the day tomorrow when temps go up here, and monitor. If I see it's stable for a couple of days I'll then maybe try the Batch 16...but it already runs 60/62/65 w/.0003% HW without any tweaking.

those are solid numbers just watch for temps. as 64 is close to a safe max.

do you have fans set to 65%?

the newer batch has 1 fan so I would play with fan number's

  see what 55% = in rpm
  see what 60% = in rpm
  see what 65% = in rpm

go up to 80% as I think 80% is the max fan speed not 100% (I don't have a 1 fan s-7 so I am not sure.)

BTW I spent time in the USN 5 years 1978 to 1983

i have 3 s7 with 1 fan, my fan speed all set to max 100% = 5880 rpm, no choice the temp. here now is 35'C.

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: firetreeactual on May 09, 2016, 09:00:23 PM

Mahalo for the info. Seems to be working just fine at 725 w/.0001% HW and boards at 60/60/64. Going to leave it there, I think, through the day tomorrow when temps go up here, and monitor. If I see it's stable for a couple of days I'll then maybe try the Batch 16...but it already runs 60/62/65 w/.0003% HW without any tweaking.

those are solid numbers just watch for temps. as 64 is close to a safe max.

do you have fans set to 65%?

the newer batch has 1 fan so I would play with fan number's

see what 55% = in rpm
see what 60% = in rpm
see what 65% = in rpm

go up to 80% as I think 80% is the max fan speed not 100% (I don't have a 1 fan s-7 so I am not sure.)

BTW I spent time in the USN 5 years 1978 to 1983

firetreeactual

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Mahalo for the info. Seems to be working just fine at 725 w/.0001% HW and boards at 60/60/64. Going to leave it there, I think, through the day tomorrow when temps go up here, and monitor. If I see it's stable for a couple of days I'll then maybe try the Batch 16...but it already runs 60/62/65 w/.0003% HW without any tweaking.

UfoRia

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I oc'ed my nine B1 s7's since day one, out of the nine B1's four can hold 675 with low error rates. The others I had to move them in increments until they would be stable, then when one would drop after a few days I would drop it a bit. With the temps rising I have had to adjust them occasionally, but I have been getting 46.5-48.3 from them since early October with no failures.

YMMV, so it's a simple matter of balancing temp/hw error rates and fiddling with them until they are balanced enough for your own tastes.

Ufo

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Quote from: firetreeactual on May 09, 2016, 06:05:46 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 09, 2016, 05:14:23 PM

Quote from: firetreeactual on May 09, 2016, 05:06:48 PM

Dumb question, perhaps...but curious whether to try to bump the freq on my one Batch 12 S7 to maybe 725. The changes I made to the rack have both the units down by 10+C...and this one's running a consistent <=60C on all three boards. PSUs are 2KW split boxes (1KW ea) and up to it, I think.

Any educated guesses on what would happen? Worth the effort/risk? This box is off warranty.

Sure eventually there is a freq that is too high and the gear has more hw's so the freq setting makes you lose money.

so

700 = .0001 hw + temps are low bump to
706 = .0010 hw temps go from 55 to 58 bump to
712 = .0025 hw temps go from 58 to 61 bump to
718 = .0050 hw temps go from 61 to 64 bump to
725 = .0250 hw hemps go from 64 to 67 too high drop to 718

this is a typical result. your top end will be 712, 718, 725, 731,737 just move your freq 6 at a time

Hey...cool. Well worded and perfect sense. I'm willing to risk a bit on this box as I have another (B16) spare. Mahalo! (Thx) Grin

EDIT: Did that...running essentially cool and normal at 725. Watching it closely, though. It may be different when the ambient goes up.

In my experience the determining factor in OC for antminers is HW and not temp. This has been true for me going back to S1. This assumes your PSU is more than up to whatever freq you set. It's normal to see temps rise with higher freq but I always hit an unacceptable HW rate before I hit an unacceptable temp.

firetreeactual

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 09, 2016, 05:14:23 PM

Quote from: firetreeactual on May 09, 2016, 05:06:48 PM

Dumb question, perhaps...but curious whether to try to bump the freq on my one Batch 12 S7 to maybe 725. The changes I made to the rack have both the units down by 10+C...and this one's running a consistent <=60C on all three boards. PSUs are 2KW split boxes (1KW ea) and up to it, I think.

Any educated guesses on what would happen? Worth the effort/risk? This box is off warranty.

Sure eventually there is a freq that is too high and the gear has more hw's so the freq setting makes you lose money.

so

700 = .0001 hw + temps are low bump to
706 = .0010 hw temps go from 55 to 58 bump to
712 = .0025 hw temps go from 58 to 61 bump to
718 = .0050 hw temps go from 61 to 64 bump to
725 = .0250 hw hemps go from 64 to 67 too high drop to 718

this is a typical result. your top end will be 712, 718, 725, 731,737 just move your freq 6 at a time

Hey...cool. Well worded and perfect sense. I'm willing to risk a bit on this box as I have another (B16) spare. Mahalo! (Thx) Grin

EDIT: Did that...running essentially cool and normal at 725. Watching it closely, though. It may be different when the ambient goes up.

pikachuy

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Quote from: firetreeactual on May 09, 2016, 05:06:48 PM

Dumb question, perhaps...but curious whether to try to bump the freq on my one Batch 12 S7 to maybe 725. The changes I made to the rack have both the units down by 10+C...and this one's running a consistent <=60C on all three boards. PSUs are 2KW split boxes (1KW ea) and up to it, I think.

Any educated guesses on what would happen? Worth the effort/risk? This box is off warranty.

EDIT: ...good point on Merkle. Haven't heard the term used in a while. Cool

If you are not running in a control environment, then it will be hard to determine the reason due to multiple variables happening that are out of your control. I.E. It could be sunny, cloudy, misty, cool breeze, the humidity, etc. Then again, it could just be that you improve your miner's feng shui by increasing their air flow.

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: firetreeactual on May 09, 2016, 05:06:48 PM

Dumb question, perhaps...but curious whether to try to bump the freq on my one Batch 12 S7 to maybe 725. The changes I made to the rack have both the units down by 10+C...and this one's running a consistent <=60C on all three boards. PSUs are 2KW split boxes (1KW ea) and up to it, I think.

Any educated guesses on what would happen? Worth the effort/risk? This box is off warranty.

Sure eventually there is a freq that is too high and the gear has more hw's so the freq setting makes you lose money.

so

700 = .0001 hw + temps are low bump to
706 = .0010 hw temps go from 55 to 58 bump to
712 = .0025 hw temps go from 58 to 61 bump to
718 = .0050 hw temps go from 61 to 64 bump to
725 = .0250 hw hemps go from 64 to 67 too high drop to 718

this is a typical result. your top end will be 712, 718, 725, 731,737 just move your freq 6 at a time

firetreeactual

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Activity: 952

Merit: 1003

Dumb question, perhaps...but curious whether to try to bump the freq on my one Batch 12 S7 to maybe 725. The changes I made to the rack have both the units down by 10+C...and this one's running a consistent <=60C on all three boards. PSUs are 2KW split boxes (1KW ea) and up to it, I think.

Any educated guesses on what would happen? Worth the effort/risk? This box is off warranty.

EDIT: ...good point on Merkle. Haven't heard the term used in a while. Cool

kano

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Quote from: d57heinz on May 09, 2016, 09:24:25 AM

http://www.newmusicbox.org/articles/From-Computer-Models-of-Musical-Creativity/

for those of you in doubt.. please inform yourselves!

Best Regards
d57heinz

Please read the WHole article..

edit and please understand this.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

little excerpt from it.

"Programming languages provide so-called random processes that produce unpredictable results. However, computer randomness (often called pseudo randomness) is actually deterministic. The reason for this is that deterministic algorithms—the basis for all computation—produce deterministic outcomes. Whenever a programmer calls upon a computer language’s random function, that programmer is depending on the irrelevance of the data chosen to provide the sense of randomness. Given enough time and provided with the generating algorithm, programmers could accurately predict each new datum produced by computer pseudo randomness"

The merkle tree contains truely random values ...

kano

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Well ...

I make a post pointing out that the transactions should average less than a day to be confirmed ... and the first block after that takes almost a day.
Anyway, that block confirmed the 3 outstanding payouts.

clgrissom3

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Carl, aka Sonny :)

Block by zodiacus with 55THs! Welcome to the Acclaim Board with your first Kano Block! Cheesy

EDIT: Three payout blocks confirmed, 410864, 410865, and 410901

firetreeactual

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Quote from: Sierra8561 on May 09, 2016, 12:25:21 PM

Quote from: firetreeactual on May 09, 2016, 11:52:32 AM

Quote from: citronick on May 09, 2016, 08:10:04 AM

Quote from: kano on May 09, 2016, 06:58:07 AM

Quote from: rkinnin on May 09, 2016, 06:38:43 AM

...
Just curious....how much do you actually mine yourself?

Well for quite a while now I mine 18hrs a day, since in the middle of the day it costs me around 40c/kWhr so that'd never happen Tongue

Currently it's only one Avalon6 (I can only really run 2 due to power limitations) so around 3.6THs 3/4 of the day.
It was 2 of them since December but recently I fried half of one due to weird circumstances and it's now upstairs and too loud to run so it's off until I either swap in a quieter fan from something else or just leave it off. It's not very loud, but loud enough to not want it on during the night.
You can of course see my hash rate on the list with everyone else

Edit: as clgrissom3 said

and I thought me paying 14c/kwhr is high..... 40c/kwh is just crazy down under, aud and sgd is around the same ROE.

someone should take a list on power rates across all countries... will not be surprise if we have a kano miner in Iceland with 3c/kwhr !

...hence my "Here, Ampy Ampy!"...we pay US .45/kwh here...and it's supposed to be a co-op (don't get me started). I only get free power because of my personal status and living in a subsidized complex. I couldn't afford it, either. Folks here w/PV can do it, however, as they're paying an average of .17-.20/kwh instead. I run my household (now) on 30A/120V and it's a challenge. I can run 2 S7s...now I have another S7 for backup, and six S3s I can't use at all now just for no power. I'll hang on to them for now.

Have you thought about sending your s7's to a hosting service?

Of course...won't do that. My overhead here is zero (other than a bit of noise and keeping the new kitten from climbing the equipment rack). I've the one S7 and six S3s (all with kickasspower psu's) in reserve; I just don't care much about having gear in someone else's keeping, no matter how good their rep. That's my PTSD, partly, and some of it is having spent some years in intl banking law enforcement...I don't trust hardly anyone. Undecided

The partner who helped me get this far is very close to getting into it directly himself ('cuz I'll have him paid back by the halving...and he's been getting his learning curve by watching me). I likely will "pay forward" at least part of this gear to get him up to speed without having to deal with the "where to get it and will it work OK" thing. He's a bright guy, but only got exposed to btc this past Thanksgiving. He doesn't pay for power, either. Roll Eyes

Sierra8561

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Quote from: firetreeactual on May 09, 2016, 11:52:32 AM

Quote from: citronick on May 09, 2016, 08:10:04 AM

Quote from: kano on May 09, 2016, 06:58:07 AM

Quote from: rkinnin on May 09, 2016, 06:38:43 AM

...
Just curious....how much do you actually mine yourself?

Well for quite a while now I mine 18hrs a day, since in the middle of the day it costs me around 40c/kWhr so that'd never happen Tongue

Currently it's only one Avalon6 (I can only really run 2 due to power limitations) so around 3.6THs 3/4 of the day.
It was 2 of them since December but recently I fried half of one due to weird circumstances and it's now upstairs and too loud to run so it's off until I either swap in a quieter fan from something else or just leave it off. It's not very loud, but loud enough to not want it on during the night.
You can of course see my hash rate on the list with everyone else

Edit: as clgrissom3 said

and I thought me paying 14c/kwhr is high..... 40c/kwh is just crazy down under, aud and sgd is around the same ROE.

someone should take a list on power rates across all countries... will not be surprise if we have a kano miner in Iceland with 3c/kwhr !

...hence my "Here, Ampy Ampy!"...we pay US .45/kwh here...and it's supposed to be a co-op (don't get me started). I only get free power because of my personal status and living in a subsidized complex. I couldn't afford it, either. Folks here w/PV can do it, however, as they're paying an average of .17-.20/kwh instead. I run my household (now) on 30A/120V and it's a challenge. I can run 2 S7s...now I have another S7 for backup, and six S3s I can't use at all now just for no power. I'll hang on to them for now.

Have you thought about sending your s7's to a hosting service?

firetreeactual

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Quote from: citronick on May 09, 2016, 08:10:04 AM

Quote from: kano on May 09, 2016, 06:58:07 AM

Quote from: rkinnin on May 09, 2016, 06:38:43 AM

...
Just curious....how much do you actually mine yourself?

Well for quite a while now I mine 18hrs a day, since in the middle of the day it costs me around 40c/kWhr so that'd never happen Tongue

Currently it's only one Avalon6 (I can only really run 2 due to power limitations) so around 3.6THs 3/4 of the day.
It was 2 of them since December but recently I fried half of one due to weird circumstances and it's now upstairs and too loud to run so it's off until I either swap in a quieter fan from something else or just leave it off. It's not very loud, but loud enough to not want it on during the night.
You can of course see my hash rate on the list with everyone else

Edit: as clgrissom3 said

and I thought me paying 14c/kwhr is high..... 40c/kwh is just crazy down under, aud and sgd is around the same ROE.

someone should take a list on power rates across all countries... will not be surprise if we have a kano miner in Iceland with 3c/kwhr !

...hence my "Here, Ampy Ampy!"...we pay US .45/kwh here...and it's supposed to be a co-op (don't get me started). I only get free power because of my personal status and living in a subsidized complex. I couldn't afford it, either. Folks here w/PV can do it, however, as they're paying an average of .17-.20/kwh instead. I run my household (now) on 30A/120V and it's a challenge. I can run 2 S7s...now I have another S7 for backup, and six S3s I can't use at all now just for no power. I'll hang on to them for now.

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