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Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 1831. (Read 5352140 times)

newbie
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Well...your question itself is the reason I don't rent hash. There's no BTCPD gonna look out for us. Our security is our own responsibility. That said, I'm sure the renters are, on the whole, honest...but I don't see much of a way to independently (as a user) verify that, and so my basically paranoid personality tends to rely on my own gear, and on a pool that essentially has the Bernie Sanders outlook...keep it honest, keep it efficient, and keep on truckin'...  Grin

Specifically, the hypothesis is that dishonest miners are contributing hashes but stealing blocks from various pools.  If pools don't have a way of detecting such behavior, then what you would see is some longer-established pools starting to see consistent lower luck.  New small pools such as kano would see relatively higher luck until the dishonest miners start infiltrating them as well.  In other words, the anecdotal data on "luck" of different pools is consistent with there being dishonest miners out there.

So what is or can be done to detect and/or block such miners?  Certainly over time you can run statistical tests that would identify miners with below-average luck.  At some point that becomes statistically significant, but a smart dishonest player could keep changing accounts to make this hard to detect.

Or more realtime tricks could be done by the pool to detect and kill bad players up front.
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1003
It has also been posted many times about if you can  trust the miners you rent to report a block if found. Also you have no idea how far away from the pools servers they are located.

I've been wondering about this.  Does anyone have any references on this, or perhaps kano/ck can comment on what safeguards exist against bad miners?  Do you test miners periodically to see if they faithfully report winning hashes?



Well...your question itself is the reason I don't rent hash. There's no BTCPD gonna look out for us. Our security is our own responsibility. That said, I'm sure the renters are, on the whole, honest...but I don't see much of a way to independently (as a user) verify that, and so my basically paranoid personality tends to rely on my own gear, and on a pool that essentially has the Bernie Sanders outlook...keep it honest, keep it efficient, and keep on truckin'...  Grin
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
It has also been posted many times about if you can  trust the miners you rent to report a block if found. Also you have no idea how far away from the pools servers they are located.

I've been wondering about this.  Does anyone have any references on this, or perhaps kano/ck can comment on what safeguards exist against bad miners?  Do you test miners periodically to see if they faithfully report winning hashes?

legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1003
One of my s7's has been at .02 HWE for two weeks, running at the bottom of my worker list on the worker page.
I rebooted it and now it is running at .002 HWE. I guess sometimes a power cycle will kick the HWE up until a reboot occurs.

Yup. Interesting that it's S7s (I don't have one yet). My old S2 is like that, but occasionally an S3 will do the same. I've found that doing a reboot via the html interface only reboots the OS, and the controller can get confused all on its own, so a cold boot will reset everything once you've done your config. How are your S7s for temp? I live in the tropics and would like to move up.
 
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org

Or they could have rolled 25 times in a casino in less than 5 minutes Smiley


No, they couldn't.  Seems that Casino's have a no entry policy rule against 60 year old voodoo cheerleader clowns.
Something about too much havoc wreaking from 3ft tall fertility goddesses, Indian Jones statues, and crystal rocks on the tables.
Not to mention the smell of poultry, scraps of chicken skin, and grease left on the dice/chips.  Then there's the incessant shouts of "For those about to ROCK!", followed by head banging and fist pounding.


ONLINE casino. Online. Who would even think of stepping out of the house these days. There is no ad breaks in Netflix you know.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 523
One of my s7's has been at .02 HWE for two weeks, running at the bottom of my worker list on the worker page.
I rebooted it and now it is running at .002 HWE. I guess sometimes a power cycle will kick the HWE up until a reboot occurs.
member
Activity: 106
Merit: 10

Or they could have rolled 25 times in a casino in less than 5 minutes Smiley


No, they couldn't.  Seems that Casino's have a no entry policy rule against 60 year old voodoo cheerleader clowns.
Something about too much havoc wreaking from 3ft tall fertility goddesses, Indian Jones statues, and crystal rocks on the tables.
Not to mention the smell of poultry, scraps of chicken skin, and grease left on the dice/chips.  Then there's the incessant shouts of "For those about to ROCK!", followed by head banging and fist pounding.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
... and on the subject of changes ...

There's been some important changes on the ckpool local <->remote node code by -ck so there'll be a set of updates with those in about 18 hours.
I'll post again tomorrow morning (it's early afternoon here now) an hour before I do that with ckpool on all the nodes.

...
Here's that 1 hour warning to let everyone know.

In just over 1 hour I'll be doing ckpool updates on the "5" nodes.
When the minute hand hits zero in 65 minutes at 23:00 UTC

Each update is immediate, no delays or anything like that.

Firstly the main node which will be the usual case of most miners should just see a reconnect in cgminer, though a small % will failover.
People on the remote nodes have a higher chance of failover when the main node restarts.

Then will be the Tube nonce connection (1) and each of the remote nodes (3)
These updates should only see reconnects and no failovers.

There will also be a reduction in stales on the remote nodes due to this update.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1006
Mine for a Bit
See what happens when you have great Payouts, great learning, great fun with a pool.......GROWth!!

CKPool:     12,032.31THs
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1006
Mine for a Bit
This is my 10th Day at 5Nd (29 blocks found so far on while at 5Nd).......Love it!    Today is still Young.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Yeah first > 100% in a few days ... 14 block run of luck > 100%
Hasn't beaten our best luck run (yet), but still amazing - pool luck graph shows this is our 3rd time hitting the heights off the top of the graph.
All 'luck' but all fun too Cheesy

--

Payout 393201 sent (~7 hours ago)
c84251ddb1811179d52431529ca89e8573eb23d8ee8802fae07faead57871513
and confirmed (4.75 hours ago)
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org

As long as you know it's a gamble. It's fine with your own hardware, which probably breaks even at 20-50% luck. But paying for a rental at a 110-120% rate has worse odds than rolling it on PrimeDice.


If anyone's been gambling the past 27 days they'd have made some good profits.
Look at past 8.5 days.

Last 25 Blocks   8.5days   100.9%   59.52%   59.41%   0.0100   168.33%

Current and short term past performance has created prime conditions for reverse fallacy.
Or, the dice are weighted.  Smiley


Or they could have rolled 25 times in a casino in less than 5 minutes Smiley

Streak has ended BTW. Will the renters martingale this one?
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
I'm just going to sit here and keep mining Wink

Just broke 100% for the first time in a long time.
member
Activity: 106
Merit: 10

As long as you know it's a gamble. It's fine with your own hardware, which probably breaks even at 20-50% luck. But paying for a rental at a 110-120% rate has worse odds than rolling it on PrimeDice.


If anyone's been gambling the past 27 days they'd have made some good profits.
Look at past 8.5 days.

Last 25 Blocks   8.5days   100.9%   59.52%   59.41%   0.0100   168.33%

Current and short term past performance has created prime conditions for reverse fallacy.
Or, the dice are weighted.  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1000
My Kano average was 0.0060 BTC/TH/Day in December and it is up to 0.0066 BTC/TH/Day this month.  I'm usually leery of adding rentals such as NiceHash but right now there are a lot in the 0.0046-0.0050 BTC/TH/Day range on NiceHash and 0:0050-0.0055 BTC/TH/Day range on WestHash.  It seems logical that you could take advantage of it for a short while and come out on top...

As long as you know it's a gamble. It's fine with your own hardware, which probably breaks even at 20-50% luck. But paying for a rental at a 110-120% rate has worse odds than rolling it on PrimeDice.


It has also been posted many times about if you can  trust the miners you rent to report a block if found. Also you have no idea how far away from the pools servers they are located.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1000
I do not understand this pool,
page did not appear the speed,
I go on working, and there is no worker,
I go on payments, and I have nothing,
I primio go on, and there's nothing


where am I wrong? Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

If you mine to an address, it won't show in a username account that also uses the same address.
The username account will only show stats for mining to the username.

This is obviously necessary, otherwise anyone could create an account and look at all the mining details of someone else's address.

Obviously you haven't lost anything of course.
Look in your wallet, you have already received payments to that address from the pool.

By what is posted above you must be mining to a wallet address than a user name? Does your wallet show the payments from the pool? If so then all is working.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
My Kano average was 0.0060 BTC/TH/Day in December and it is up to 0.0066 BTC/TH/Day this month.  I'm usually leery of adding rentals such as NiceHash but right now there are a lot in the 0.0046-0.0050 BTC/TH/Day range on NiceHash and 0:0050-0.0055 BTC/TH/Day range on WestHash.  It seems logical that you could take advantage of it for a short while and come out on top...

As long as you know it's a gamble. It's fine with your own hardware, which probably breaks even at 20-50% luck. But paying for a rental at a 110-120% rate has worse odds than rolling it on PrimeDice.
member
Activity: 77
Merit: 10
3333 port

3333 did not work for me either so tried 80 and it worked, the below is on the home page.

If you have network issues using port 3333, you can also try:
./cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum80.kano.is:80 -u Kano.worker -p x
 or
./cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum80.kano.is:80 -u 1KanoiBupPiZfkwqB7rfLXAzPnoTshAVmb_worker -p x

You can also try any of:
stratum+tcp://stratum81.kano.is:81
stratum+tcp://stratum443.kano.is:443
stratum+tcp://stratum8080.kano.is:8080
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
member
Activity: 77
Merit: 10
I do not understand this pool,
page did not appear the speed,
I go on working, and there is no worker,
I go on payments, and I have nothing,
I primio go on, and there's nothing


where am I wrong? Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

What settings are you using, did you try the different ports mentioned on the home page?
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