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It does not reset the settings, I have the box checked to leave setting intact. I have 10 or so of the S5's, half are running at 375 and half at 400, just depends where I have them. The ones at 400 are in a cooler area then the ones at 375. They are all between 53-60c and this just started a few days ago.

When you flash does it reset the factory settings as far as frequency and voltage


factory settings on mine are:

Frequency 350M

Voltage 0725

You can double check to see what your factory settings were by logging in using Putty



Login as:    root
password:  admin

then to view the factory settings just type

cat /etc/cgminer.conf.factory

you should get something like this returned to you

{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "solo.antpool.com:25",
"user" : "antminer",
"pass" : "123"
},
{
"url" : "p2p.antpool.com:3333",
"user" : "antminer",
"pass" : "123"
},
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.f2pool.com:3333",
"user" : "ant.1",
"pass" : "123"
}
]
,
"api-listen" : true,
"api-network" : true,
"api-allow" : "W:0/0",
"bitmain-freq" : "3:350:0d82",
"bitmain-voltage" : "0725"
}
root@antMiner:~#

This was one of my factory config files on one of my s5's
as you can see factory freq was 350
and factory voltage was 0725

So after further testing, I pointed the miner to Ghash, it ran there for about 3 hours and it reports pretty much the same stats. On Gash the 5min refreshes every 10 seconds or so, I can see it go to 1.3 hang there and then start to drop back down to 800 or so, then back to 1 or 1.1 and drops back down. after 3 hours there, the 15m is 924Gh and 1hr is 990Gh, but now the 5 min is 1.21. So its like bouncing all over the place, now I am seeing similar behavior with another miner on Kano. In both cases the UI stats show 5s over 1.2 all the time and the avg is 1.23Th since last reboot 3 hours ago.

I have done it both ways, set Diff manually at 1024, let is run for a day or two and then also set to zero and let pool manage diff. No difference.

NOTE: Some of my S5's show best share and some show zero, same FW and same pool. Also some show DiffR and some don't. I'd expect the UI to show at least the same type of data across all my S5's on the same pool and same FW.

That's a weird one where it's actually showing an over-clocked hash rate but running well under.

Of course it can take a few hours, to a day, to show the expected hash rate, but regularly showing the same low value on multiple pools would mean it's the miner.

Also make sure it's not failing over to a 2nd pool with the remainder of the hash rate.

You can test the 2 boards to see if it's one particularly causing it i.e. power off, unplug one of the 2 top wide ribbon cables, then power it on and see if it's getting half the expected - then reverse that to test the other board.

Otherwise, yeah I'd ask in the S5 thread and see what others have to say there.

I guess my first question would be, how long are you allowing it to run on a pool before you decide it's slow? It does take time before you will get the 'UI side' to correspond with the 'Pool-side' readings.

edit;plus, are you pre-setting the difficulty or allowing the pool vardiff to set difficulty?

Issue with S5, here is a new one for ya. I have several S5's all running great on this pool. 2 days ago one of them started reporting only 800-850 Gh, while since placed in service its been reporting 1200-1290 Gh on the pool and on the UI. I have re-flashed with cgminer 4.9, rebooted, restored to factory etc. The UI reports the correct 1200-1290 hash rates, all chips report good, temps look normal. Nothing looks odd or different on the miner UI. I even tried 2 other pools and then all report speed at pool around 800-850 Gh while on the miner showing 1200-1250 avg.

Any ideas?

Payouts 372735 and 372741 sent (an hour ago)
3a5f524f80c142a9c36dc0da8181561aad509b13890e551b7f474afc910e83bb
266adcca6af74af3262537d2e5432912e078d6cdbf7740e0ee867b73528f9089
and confirmed

Sysop? Jeez, I haven't heard that term in ages! Funny!!

I don't know if the pool has missed my 1+ TH but...I got zapped big-time the other day.     This Florida lightning took out my entire power center! Damn it, this is gonna cost me $ that I don't have. I'm hoping the center (a battery backup + 2 surge protectors) did their job and the equipment is still good. I just relocated my router so I can, at least, get access to use my tablet.
I guess I'll be down for awhile & wish the pool luck! I won't be getting funds for another month. $400 US just doesn't grow on trees.

Good Luck & Happy Mining!

      

Overall it has definitely been my favorite pool to mine on.  I jumped to Slush for the no fee period, but moving back here tomorrow for the long term.  I expect we're going to see a decently long block this go round, but like thedreamer said this pool always seems to catch up, and more!  Happy mining.

Yeah, I've stopped caring when we get a very long block now, after seeing how the pool always catches up and more. Overall I'm at about 12% higher than normal mining , so I just laugh it off and beg the mighty sysop (Yes that is an old term for you youngins) to reboot and burp the pool every now and then. 

As of this past Sunday, I was mining at an all time reward of about 105% compared to what I am calculated to mine based on my hash rate. This doesn't indicate profitability in and of itself, but it does mean I'm making slightly more than expected.

Note that this number is tracked since first week of July or so.

As for profitability vs. electrical cost, I guess the answer is if you can't get it here, you probably can't get it anywhere.

And no, this is not like a lottery pool. Ita just that on a smaller pool you have more variance. The longer you mine at any pool, the closer your rewards will trend towards that 100% value.

Well, yes but no
If mining costs less then expected average rewards, then of course the longer you mine, the larger the profit, as long as the pool luck stays were it is.
However, no, you don't have to stay connected to get your shares, already sent to the pool, rewarded.

Also, as I mentioned to someone else recently, if you mine 9 out of every 10 hours a day, you would expect, on average, over time, to get rewarded 90% of if you mined 10 out of 10 hours, i.e. all the time.

There's no penalty, simply each share gets rewarded in each block found in the 5Nd after it.
Luck decides how much you get, but the pool also has an expected return, that the long term statistics say it has stayed above.

Over the short term, your payout is very much controlled by luck and can swing quite a lot.
Over the long term, your payout will approach the pool's average luck.

Ahhhhh thanks!

It is the percentage of the 215hrs of mining? So because I just started last week I wasn't mining at full speed that whole 215 hours.........

With other words the longer I will be connected the higher the profit?

We'll see, I like this pool especially because you guys give answers, but it has to be profitable because in the Netherlands energy is not cheap 

2 things:

1) How much time of that 215.3hours did you mine?

Calculating from your 2.97THs vs your expected 19.8THs, you were mining 2.97/19.8 = 15% of the 215.3hrs = 32.3hrs before block 372735
i.e. you didn't start mining at the start of the payout range, but instead at the ~85% mark, so your payout was only ~15% of expected.

Consider this extreme example: if someone started mining 10minutes before we found a block, with 1PHs, he of course wouldn't get most of the reward for the whole block.

Your reward per block is based on the number of shares you submitted in the payout range vs every one else.
e.g. if you mined half the pool hash rate, but only for half the payout range, you'd expect to get a quarter of that specific block reward.

2) However, the Help->Payouts page also explains why you aren't expected to lose anything, on average:

Each share you submitted will still be paid in future blocks after 372735
So if you stop mining right now, all blocks in the 5Nd (see the Help->Payouts page) after your last share will provide some reward, decreasing as we get closer to 5Nd after your last share.

What happens is all shares are expected, on average, to be rewarded 5 times.
However, this also means that each time they are rewarded, it will be 1/5 of their expected average total reward.
See the Account->Rewards page that shows how many times each shift has been rewarded.
Of course the numbers will start at 0 for any shifts after the last block, and count up and down heading back over time depending upon pool luck after each shift ...
(I've added to my todo list to add a red line showing shifts that are outside the last payout range, so you know for certain that none of those shifts below the red line can get more rewards)

In block 372735, only the shares you had submitted where rewarded, and the amount of shares you submitted was equivalent to mining 2.97THs for the entire 215.3hrs
In the following blocks, some or all of those shares will be rewarded again.
e.g. in block 372741 all of your shares got a reward since they were all in the last 15% of the payout range for 372735 and that 15% was also covered by the payout range of block 372741
Any shares before, up to block 372735 now have 2 rewards, and of course any shares after 372735 up to block 372741 so far only have 1 reward.
Any shares submitted since block 372741 of course have no reward so far.

This is also how the pool reduces reward variance.
Your reward for each share is effectively averaged out over the 5Nd after the share is submitted.

How well this works can be seen looking at the slow 307% block we just got.
All shares submitted during that long block have already received 4 rewards - and all of them could get their average expected 5th reward if the next block is around 123% Diff or less.

Ok, but I'm mining to make profit comparing my energy costs, is that possible in this pool? (or is this more like a gambling pool?)
I started last week on friday I thought and the earnings are not that good when I was mining at antpool. For example:

372735   2/Sep 21:41   25.21947810   271.512G   215hr 19m 59s   1.50PHs   0.20%   535.512M   2.97THs   0.04974116

This says my percentage is 0.20% but at the time we were solving this block I was delivering about 19,8 THS, but above says 2,97Ths!?!
I know I'm a "newbie", and switched to CKpool because I like to support the smaller guys in the bussines but for now it seems it will cost me money.
Can somebody explain me? Maybe I'm doing something wrong or I don't understand it quite clear.

Yeah I was asked about wanting an S5+ to which I replied - we'll see how things are once I get the final S5 SPI code done.
I'm pretty sure I'll get the SPI version running on an S5+ and an S7 - if I get the S7 that may meander over my way

But that's all after I get the standard S5 code up and running (and update the S1/S2/S3 - seems I broke S1 in git with the S3 changes)

I'm averse to creating extra ports for different pool options - but also due to a current limitation in ckpool not allowing different options on different ports (i.e. it would be solved by running multiple ckpools on the one server) but also ckdb doesn't allowing multiple ckpools talking to it (yet ... long way down the todo list, and requires ckpool changes also)

However, with the BIP100 BIP101 debate, I'm not at all interested in giving a vote option to BIP101.
There are fundamental issues I can't agree with XT (and thus BIP101) that I'd prefer, if people disagree, they vote by mining somewhere else.
Note that the BIP100 voting was started via a discussion over a few days between a person at Bitmain and myself - he suggested the sig addition

Meanwhile
Payout 372673 sent half an hour ago
58dcf6f300db0f166eef400223c575379fcacde60ac491ba0b6be1ac5213d625
and confirmed about 15 minutes later

Kano, you are a good lifeguard.

To the rest of this pool who mined that last long fat block, it was hell seeing those days on days of no block, but you start getting where you don't even sweat it. Even a few hundred in electrical block and then a nice pop, pop, pop and it is covered plus. Like someone said, going all in here and staying in when you see those big payments roll out it is sweet. It looks like more even though it is all the same, outside of experience and talent in the software and pool hardware.
I think Kano and CK have always made a convincing case for the reasons for the direction of CGminer or the pool software when questioned, Kano has presence on the pool (which is like a personal coder running your pool when you think about it), running the "state of the art" pool software and sending each payment so there is a computer run and then he is manually seeing if there is a huge mistake with something code might not.

Other than Bitminter who has been around a long time is there another pool where the Operator is handling communication, pool management, all of those things directly with the users and giving updates many times live, announcing the pool restart, or saying it 'might' rollover, so you know to check things...
I hear Slush does on his Facebook page, but I don't do anymore social media than forums on anything I own, especially Facebook. I don't want to have to sit in IRC. At the day job I am there to work, I stay hooked up the entire time. I wont be distracted by IRC, etc.
The forum I pop through my proxy while I am grabbing a coffee or a quick lunch and then I am only checking on the nano farm a few times per day, along with some alarms because I am not anal, I'm too old and paranoid heh.  

By the way, my friend had his first failure with the S5+. Rear-Left fan died. No reason, he says he logged in remotely to do a personal check on things at home, refreshed, and see the temps on her at 82, and one at 85, and hashing right along. Have a screenshot I need to post for him. He replaced the fan with one from an S3+ which runs about 3700 max, and who knows how long that will last. The rest normally run 4,000 - 4,200. The fan on the front opposite the S3+ fan on the back is reporting a bit higher rate.
I told him not to let it get over 60 with the s3 fan. He said he would shut it down until he hears from BITMAIN.

Also, one of the front heat sinks did not have all of the aluminum ground, sawed, machined, or however they make those, he said he didn't care -  It is one of the front ones you see if you remove the fan. You know someone saw it putting the fan on.

It is nice though. The Aluminum case has grooves on all sides, inside and out. Everything had a great finish. IT was ground or hit with something so the edges didn't slice you open, he said. The S7 will probably be the same way, but someone said they received a Galvanized S5+, which is not a good thing for Galvanized to reach 60c consistently, but the Aluminum with the tongue & groove is nice and is a much cooler, lighter, way better built than the S5 machine. They slide the modules together and use the fans to keep from sliding apart. It is also unused. I shit you not. I was so surprised.

Anyone here getting an S7? I am definitely jealous of you guys able to go pickup 4 when they hit the shelf, much less 300 or 400. IT sounds like a big dream to go open a mine that size and take the risk of a lifetime for many people who have done it. If I didn't have commitments which are a higher priority I would not have a problem living in almost anywhere int he world for a year commitment to start. My commitments will become much less in a few years and I believe Bitcoin Blockchain technology will still only be beginning to find it's path and just start to actually climb the hill like when on a roller-coaster and the chain first grabs, clink, clink, clink up the hill slowly...
  I have to work out my recent purchase and move some things out. Maybe I can get one or two on a later batch, especially if BITMAIN gets a real competitor. For now, they are the only SHA 256 game in town. It does not make sense why these companies do not sell off their old to make an easy half a million dollars. Bitfury, KNC, Spondoolies. I know they have their own mines to fill, but these things aren't rolling out at a slow pace if they don't want them too. Certainly faster than they can fill data center(s). Once the batches of each piece of the product are in with a product like this it doesn't take many people to have these up on a test bench.  

Kano thank you for the S3 firmware. That is another great thing you give to the community. I'm not trying to be an asskisser, I'm just steppin up and saying you and several others give  a lot, to not just the pool or software, but being involved with many aspects and trying to stop people you think are doing or telling people things they shouldn't, or helping a n00b spot a scam. That is the way people need to learn bitcoin is about. Not stealing someones hard-earned coin, but helping each other streamline and keep others in check for stealing, especially from n00bs. (I'm still a n00b)
Would it be bad form to ask if the S5 firmware is looking good, or if you would care to take a stab at the S5+ firmware? IT supports a larger entry for fans, serial connections etc on the board and 4.8 CGMINER, but I bet your S5 stuff would drop in with minimal changes wouldn't it? OR maybe none?


Very much apologize for the length. I do not post much so I get it all out at once, feel free to put me on ignore, but I will cry at that point. Honestly, very sorry for the length. and a solid choice backing GARZIKBIP.  That's all I have to say about that except to say,

 I did my own research, I am well informed regarding the major BIPS, dopeheads, brilliant people, and assholes involved, I watched, read (even the mailing list), listened to many interviews, and anything I could find. You know it was everywhere.

 I did my homework and the simple thing which staggered me the most was the combination of predicted, already coded growth with the way it makes me feel funny in my stomach thinking about Hearn and Gavin also have their Agendas, just like the blockstream guys but that was all I consistently saw in every news source, they are bad because they are block stream guys. Guess what, Hearn has as much or more invested in the SP uses of wallets, processing, relaying, etc, everything to do with an SPV style of business model. Where you do not hold the blockchain, you do not host a full node. He takes a large amount of credit for BitcoinJ. I have no doubt he deserves any credit he seeks for BitcoinJ. I know he is working on something big he was either going to release or has. Also the Lighthouse company he started uses the same technology. I have no reason at all to think he is doing anything wrong or unethical. I also do not have any reason to think the Blockstream crew are doing anything wrong. They are working on Lightning and Side-chains which I do not think have enough coding to do anything with at this point, but is way outside where I am going with this. For anyone who doesn't know, the Blockstream guys are a big percentage of the big names from the "main" Core Dev Team, many have core commit access, and they are contracting Luke JR. A PR move? Maybe, they do a test run as a contractor to see how bad people freak out. If it goes over unnoticed then he gets a nice title, but still, nothing illegal, immoral, or any intentions to harm the bitcoin network. Maybe the thoughts and prejudices of LukeJR will contaminate some issues, but there is not any proof these guys are doing shady things regarding their business to feed themselves with, and the bitcoin core work. I think they knew and know the size must increase. They don't know what to do, until they took it serious, and then they came up with a solid Bip.

As far as Gavin, he had the lead position, he was the Chief, he gave it up. He must have either wanted, or thought he was better utilized in the other rolls he filled on the board and now with XT. Why didn't he stay and rope Hearn in to have a sit-in with all the major core guys until they figured it out? If it i worth endangering the entire ecosystem, it is worth saying OK boys no one is going anywhere this weekend until we get to the bottom of this and get all of our asses on the same page. I mean everyone dammit. We have been arguing over this for years, we have been putting things in place in preperation for this increase, almost everyone who matters agrees the size needs to increase, now lets all stop the posturing, sit down right now, and finish the solution. If anyone has proof of wrong-doing it would impact my opinion, heavily, but there are a small number of people in the crew of people I have seen with their hands in real control of the cookie jar. A few Core developers, Mike, Gavin all have political pull, and access to decent stacks of cash if it comes to it.
Total side-note, I do wish there had been some kind of vote with mining to specific ports, signing specific messages with miners, or some way individual miner could show support for whatever bip without needing to leave your pool. I may not agree with what Kano wants to do, I think I do in this case, but we probably disagree on many things, but it wouldn't change my view of his pool op skills, choices and understanding of how CGminer, the pool software, predictability of mining scenarios with large amounts of hash, etc, etc so even if he enjoys Virtual Reality midget tranny porn while he runs around screaming his allegiance to Nose Spray and Kit Kats I still want to have hash with him.   BIP  
I should have forewarned everyone I'd been listening to Christopher Hitchens for a few days. Guy was amazing with his skills as a debater and more. That is why this was my one comment to make. Plus I'm hoping I am relatively safe from being flamed for anything except being off topic since I am not actually in the correct thread to get slammed for stating my opinion about the whole thing.
Thanks and Sorry again for the longest run-on sentence in the world, and if anyone read this far, this has to be kind of if I know you kind of thing sorry, you cant be a newb, if you want a coupon for $100 off an S7 PM me. I have a few coupons, best I can do, but I want to give them to people who will really use it themselves to keep growing the home miner crowd here in the few good pool we have left. Sorry, but if I wanted to sell them on ebay I would do so. I want to support my local miner 101. So don't take offense if I don't send one.
Sorry for the OT as well, and you people keep swimming and dreaming about those fat payouts when they come down.

By the way, Cheers to more blocks, obviously I am toasting with a crown on the rocks in one hand and a soldering iron in the other.
Cheers to everyone at every honest pool to more blocks, but I have to say, at the moment, a toast to all the people putting their hash to the pools with close pool managers. Tip o' the hat, the crown goes back, slow and smooth, I toast to you.

I still am a believer that the pool needs a restart every few hours and then blocks start falling.. Never fails. 

Congratz to all that found a block today. Awesome day @Kano CKPool. Now I wish my two little s3's would find one LOL.

If anyone noticed - I removed the 'Age' field from the Block stats table.
It was originally supposed to show how long it took to find the last N blocks, but the value I passed wasn't correct for that.
So I was just displaying it as the timestamp of block N - but it would seem that's wrong also.
I'll put it back again later, once I work out why it's still not quite correct and fix it.