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Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 310. (Read 5352295 times)
April 07, 2018, 08:03:39 AM
April 07, 2018, 08:02:21 AM
I'm seeing red Darth Vaders in the top left of the website!!! Not good...
Edit: All green now. Mine on!!!
Edit: All green now. Mine on!!!
April 07, 2018, 07:14:05 AM
Pool hashrate is looking good. I better step up my mine to keep my piece of the pie up. It’s about cut in half from what it use to be per block. I’m waiting to see if miners will keep dropping in price. That and my power bill is approaching levels that would require me to cash in some coin each month to help pay for it. That’s no good.
Well yeah you get less per block, but we get more blocks.It comes out the same from that point of view (when luck is the expected 100%)
There is of course the fact that (pretty much) every 2 weeks difficulty rises,
so that will make your total expected reward go down every 2 weeks unless you get the same % more miners as the difficulty rise.
April 07, 2018, 05:11:22 AM
i not lucky at all
my electric company estimates up
my electric company estimates up
April 07, 2018, 02:36:43 AM
Too bad you didnt have my luck. My electrical company has only billed 2900 kwh since dec 8th. I have been at about 7500 kwh per month. one month was at 8400. They didnt bill me becuase the power company said it was high, so they estimated, sent someone to my door to investigate, i told her off, nosey Biatch! The power company confirmed with me the readings were accurate, then they sent them to the retailer, then the retailer didnt want to bill it becuase there is no way that I could of used 17000 kwh in 28 days according to their readings. So now they are going to go back and "pro rate" my usage. Ironically the cost per kwh has gone up slowly, where do you think the most of the usage will end up according to their calculation... gee I wonder..
So yes, Dec 8. til April 8, 4 months all I have been billed is 2900 kwh, when it should total to about 25 000 kwh. 1750 cnd Bux! Thats going to be a nice bill when I get it. I'll ask for time to pay. :-)
It would be even better if they threw the bill at you in the winter when they can't legally disconnect your power, (atleast my crown corporation can't)
Either way they are coming for their money lol. You should "plant" random electrical supplies and a few busted lights and say it was them damn pop up pot growers stealing your power.
Same here, my power company probably thinks my meter is busted - they've been estimating ~1,500kWh per month for the past 3 billing cycles when it should be at least ~11kWh for the 10 S9's I have running.
April 07, 2018, 01:54:00 AM
Too bad you didnt have my luck. My electrical company has only billed 2900 kwh since dec 8th. I have been at about 7500 kwh per month. one month was at 8400. They didnt bill me becuase the power company said it was high, so they estimated, sent someone to my door to investigate, i told her off, nosey Biatch! The power company confirmed with me the readings were accurate, then they sent them to the retailer, then the retailer didnt want to bill it becuase there is no way that I could of used 17000 kwh in 28 days according to their readings. So now they are going to go back and "pro rate" my usage. Ironically the cost per kwh has gone up slowly, where do you think the most of the usage will end up according to their calculation... gee I wonder..
So yes, Dec 8. til April 8, 4 months all I have been billed is 2900 kwh, when it should total to about 25 000 kwh. 1750 cnd Bux! Thats going to be a nice bill when I get it. I'll ask for time to pay. :-)
It would be even better if they threw the bill at you in the winter when they can't legally disconnect your power, (atleast my crown corporation can't)
Either way they are coming for their money lol. You should "plant" random electrical supplies and a few busted lights and say it was them damn pop up pot growers stealing your power.
What are you talking about? The meter must be faulty. There is no way I used that much! :-P
April 07, 2018, 01:17:42 AM
Too bad you didnt have my luck. My electrical company has only billed 2900 kwh since dec 8th. I have been at about 7500 kwh per month. one month was at 8400. They didnt bill me becuase the power company said it was high, so they estimated, sent someone to my door to investigate, i told her off, nosey Biatch! The power company confirmed with me the readings were accurate, then they sent them to the retailer, then the retailer didnt want to bill it becuase there is no way that I could of used 17000 kwh in 28 days according to their readings. So now they are going to go back and "pro rate" my usage. Ironically the cost per kwh has gone up slowly, where do you think the most of the usage will end up according to their calculation... gee I wonder..
So yes, Dec 8. til April 8, 4 months all I have been billed is 2900 kwh, when it should total to about 25 000 kwh. 1750 cnd Bux! Thats going to be a nice bill when I get it. I'll ask for time to pay. :-)
It would be even better if they threw the bill at you in the winter when they can't legally disconnect your power, (atleast my crown corporation can't)
Either way they are coming for their money lol. You should "plant" random electrical supplies and a few busted lights and say it was them damn pop up pot growers stealing your power.
April 07, 2018, 01:08:28 AM
Pool hashrate is looking good. I better step up my mine to keep my piece of the pie up. It’s about cut in half from what it use to be per block. I’m waiting to see if miners will keep dropping in price. That and my power bill is approaching levels that would require me to cash in some coin each month to help pay for it. That’s no good.
Too bad you didnt have my luck. My electrical company has only billed 2900 kwh since dec 8th. I have been at about 7500 kwh per month. one month was at 8400. They didnt bill me becuase the power company said it was high, so they estimated, sent someone to my door to investigate, i told her off, nosey Biatch! The power company confirmed with me the readings were accurate, then they sent them to the retailer, then the retailer didnt want to bill it becuase there is no way that I could of used 17000 kwh in 28 days according to their readings. So now they are going to go back and "pro rate" my usage. Ironically the cost per kwh has gone up slowly, where do you think the most of the usage will end up according to their calculation... gee I wonder..
So yes, Dec 8. til April 8, 4 months all I have been billed is 2900 kwh, when it should total to about 25 000 kwh. 1750 cnd Bux! Thats going to be a nice bill when I get it. I'll ask for time to pay. :-)
April 06, 2018, 11:25:40 PM
Pool hashrate is looking good. I better step up my mine to keep my piece of the pie up. It’s about cut in half from what it use to be per block. I’m waiting to see if miners will keep dropping in price. That and my power bill is approaching levels that would require me to cash in some coin each month to help pay for it. That’s no good.
April 06, 2018, 10:16:00 PM
thank you all
just ordered one
ill get it Wednesday
just ordered one
ill get it Wednesday
Good call
April 06, 2018, 10:13:47 PM
thank you all
just ordered one
ill get it Wednesday
just ordered one
ill get it Wednesday
April 06, 2018, 10:04:50 PM
can i use one 841 without the auc3?
*can * you do it? -- yes provided you are willing and able to do some surgery on your Pi. All the AUC does is translate USB data to I2C signaling and the Pi can to that natively. You'd have to google how to do it (better than Forum search).Personally I'd just buy the AUC3.
And it's USB-A to micro-USB data cable, not mini which is bigger.
April 06, 2018, 10:01:33 PM
can i use one 841 without the auc3?
I don't think you can. The auc3 has 2 different cables to connect from the 841 to the raspberry controller. Also, be sure to get a usb to mini usbdata cable. The usb charging cables won't work correctly.
April 06, 2018, 09:59:49 PM
can i use one 841 without the auc3?
I think you can I remember reading about it somewhere. The problem lies in the fact that you can't daisy chain in any other Miners. I might be wrong but That's how I remember it being laid out.
What's the problem is your AUC3 defective?
Here is the hardware thread on the 841; HAggs has had some training at Canaan and may be able to shed more light on that question.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/reviewguide-avalonminer-841-130-ths-1290w-bitcoin-sha-256-asic-miner-3191702
i forgot to buy one and i want to get this 841 goin i only have one
April 06, 2018, 09:41:34 PM
can i use one 841 without the auc3?
I think you can I remember reading about it somewhere. The problem lies in the fact that you can't daisy chain in any other Miners. I might be wrong but That's how I remember it being laid out.
What's the problem is your AUC3 defective?
Here is the hardware thread on the 841; HAggs has had some training at Canaan and may be able to shed more light on that question.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/reviewguide-avalonminer-841-130-ths-1290w-bitcoin-sha-256-asic-miner-3191702
i forgot to buy one and i want to get this 841 goin i only have one
April 06, 2018, 09:37:46 PM
can i use one 841 without the auc3?
I think you can I remember reading about it somewhere. The problem lies in the fact that you can't daisy chain in any other Miners. I might be wrong but That's how I remember it being laid out.
What's the problem is your AUC3 defective?
Here is the hardware thread on the 841; HAggs has had some training at Canaan and may be able to shed more light on that question.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/reviewguide-avalonminer-841-130-ths-1290w-bitcoin-sha-256-asic-miner-3191702
April 06, 2018, 09:33:53 PM
@Kano, Thanx for clarification on the issue. Sorry if it was redundant.
April 06, 2018, 09:27:57 PM
can i use one 841 without the auc3?
April 06, 2018, 07:49:11 PM
@kano is there a way to verify if my current rented shares are trash shares or actually helpful? Currently have around 4-5hrs left on my 1.2ph order. Would be more than willing to redirect to a test pool for research if needed.
The October problem was 100PH for an extended period of time, but was not enough to point fingers, only to vaguely wave hands.So no, you can't use that small a sample to determine it's validity.
MRR I ban randomly, when I find them, but I don't look too hard for them, and I'd expect it to be rare for anyone to use MRR, coz the cost there is even higher than craphash, so it makes it a bad idea for anyone actually working out the cost/return.
Using my calculator page
... http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php ... at the moment your 'expected' 100% PPS return per TH/s is (there at the top)0.000002984061 BTC per hour
So whatever you pay, when you add on fees and transaction fees at MRR, you will be paying higher than that, so you are expecting to lose.
craphash likes to hide the fees by having the market show pre-fee values, and then adding fees on top for buyers and charging sellers fees on those numbers also.
Both those fees are based on the market value, so they are indeed obscuring the fees ... then you have the fees for moving BTC in and out of craphash also ...
... then of course there was the magical cold wallet hack ...
Bottom line is, since there's a financial advantage, to withhold blocks, for people selling hash rate using PPS, then since October, whenever I find rentals, I straight out block them.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pps-block-withholding-and-rentals-1002086
To top it off, when you rent a miner, where is that miner?
Is it running through some other proxy adding latency on top of the latency from wherever that miner is, on it's path to the pool?
No idea
@ Kano...Would you go so far as to say that rentals are officially not welcome at Kanopool and will be banned upon discovery, even if a few have manged to fly under your radar screen? For the clarity of your miners now and future forseeable?
April 06, 2018, 06:04:02 PM
@kano is there a way to verify if my current rented shares are trash shares or actually helpful? Currently have around 4-5hrs left on my 1.2ph order. Would be more than willing to redirect to a test pool for research if needed.
The October problem was 100PH for an extended period of time, but was not enough to point fingers, only to vaguely wave hands.So no, you can't use that small a sample to determine it's validity.
MRR I ban randomly, when I find them, but I don't look too hard for them, and I'd expect it to be rare for anyone to use MRR, coz the cost there is even higher than craphash, so it makes it a bad idea for anyone actually working out the cost/return.
Using my calculator page
... http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php ... at the moment your 'expected' 100% PPS return per TH/s is (there at the top)0.000002984061 BTC per hour
So whatever you pay, when you add on fees and transaction fees at MRR, you will be paying higher than that, so you are expecting to lose.
craphash likes to hide the fees by having the market show pre-fee values, and then adding fees on top for buyers and charging sellers fees on those numbers also.
Both those fees are based on the market value, so they are indeed obscuring the fees ... then you have the fees for moving BTC in and out of craphash also ...
... then of course there was the magical cold wallet hack ...
Bottom line is, since there's a financial advantage, to withhold blocks, for people selling hash rate using PPS, then since October, whenever I find rentals, I straight out block them.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pps-block-withholding-and-rentals-1002086
To top it off, when you rent a miner, where is that miner?
Is it running through some other proxy adding latency on top of the latency from wherever that miner is, on it's path to the pool?
No idea
@ Kano...Would you go so far as to say that rentals are officially not welcome at Kanopool and will be banned upon discovery, even if a few have manged to fly under your radar screen? For the clarity of your miners now and future forseeable?
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