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perfectplus174

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Quote from: fjtropepe on February 20, 2018, 06:15:08 PM

What I was referring to with Biffa is getting more miners here on this pool and getting more of the network hashrate. Not going out and adding to the hashrate. He is stating that we should go out and "add" to the hasrate and thus add to the increased difficulty. I would rather take from the current total network and transfer a larger percentage over to us. That is why I am asking after he said he agreed with Biffa.

Either works, but the latter would be best.

fjtropepe

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What I was referring to with Biffa is getting more miners here on this pool and getting more of the network hashrate. Not going out and adding to the hashrate. He (Biffa) is stating that we should go out and "add" to the hasrate and thus add to the increased difficulty. I would rather take from the current total network and transfer a larger percentage over to us. That is why I am asking after he (Kano) said he agreed with Biffa.

perfectplus174

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Quote from: fjtropepe on February 20, 2018, 06:12:14 PM

Quote from: kano on February 20, 2018, 06:03:27 PM

Quote from: fjtropepe on February 20, 2018, 05:51:41 PM

Quote from: Biffa on February 20, 2018, 07:50:05 AM

Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool...

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself.

I guess not everyone agrees with you... Grin

No I agree with Biffa.
It's about getting the hash rate up a lot.

While adding losta small miners means more hash rate, we don't want to fall behind the Diff rate rising, we want to get ahead of it a lot.
The only way I can see that happening is getting a number of large miners on board - but that wont be a lot of miners.
This will only attract a small number of miners, but make a big difference to the pool if we do get some.

Biffa's idea works also, but I don't think everyone is trying to keep up with the Diff changes, so we need to keep ahead of them somehow.

Break it down for me. It is blowing over my head. If you wanted to add 1000 S9s what is the difference between 1 person owning them and 1000 different owners. We all get paid for our share relative to the whole pool, not the number of owners correct? Or am I wrong?

Because it would be adding that much more to the total network hash rate instead of convincing that already existing hash to move pools. More hash is more hash, but it would be ideal to not add more to the network to keep the diff lower.

fjtropepe

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Quote from: kano on February 20, 2018, 06:03:27 PM

Quote from: fjtropepe on February 20, 2018, 05:51:41 PM

Quote from: Biffa on February 20, 2018, 07:50:05 AM

Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool...

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself.

I guess not everyone agrees with you... Grin

No I agree with Biffa.
It's about getting the hash rate up a lot.

While adding losta small miners means more hash rate, we don't want to fall behind the Diff rate rising, we want to get ahead of it a lot.
The only way I can see that happening is getting a number of large miners on board - but that wont be a lot of miners.
This will only attract a small number of miners, but make a big difference to the pool if we do get some.

Biffa's idea works also, but I don't think everyone is trying to keep up with the Diff changes, so we need to keep ahead of them somehow.

Break it down for me. It is blowing over my head. If you wanted to add 1000 S9s what is the difference between 1 person owning them and 1000 different owners. We all get paid for our share relative to the whole pool, not the number of owners correct? Or am I wrong?

kano

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Quote from: rifleman74 on February 20, 2018, 06:07:05 PM

Quote from: perfectplus174 on February 20, 2018, 06:05:01 PM

Quote from: kano on February 20, 2018, 06:03:27 PM

Quote from: fjtropepe on February 20, 2018, 05:51:41 PM

Quote from: Biffa on February 20, 2018, 07:50:05 AM

Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool...

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself.

I guess not everyone agrees with you... Grin

No I agree with Biffa.
It's about getting the hash rate up a lot.

While adding losta small miners means more hash rate, we don't want to fall behind the Diff rate rising, we want to get ahead of it a lot.
The only way I can see that happening is getting a number of large miners on board - but that wont be a lot of miners.
This will only attract a small number of miners, but make a big difference to the pool if we do get some.

See, I wasn't aware it was about the number of miners. I thought it was strictly the hash rate that affected the diff. Interesting.

I think what he means is that there is only a small number of people who own 9.5PH or higher worth of gear vs you, me, DPos2, and others buying up enough gear to combine for 9.5PH or higher. It's easier to get a bigger fish to move over than for all of us to do it collectively.

Yes it's very hard to get 10PHs of miners.
Heh - even I couldn't get 1PH of miners from Bitmain or Canaan when I tried to directly Tongue

perfectplus174

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Quote from: rifleman74 on February 20, 2018, 06:07:05 PM

Quote from: perfectplus174 on February 20, 2018, 06:05:01 PM

Quote from: kano on February 20, 2018, 06:03:27 PM

Quote from: fjtropepe on February 20, 2018, 05:51:41 PM

Quote from: Biffa on February 20, 2018, 07:50:05 AM

Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool...

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself.

I guess not everyone agrees with you... Grin

No I agree with Biffa.
It's about getting the hash rate up a lot.

While adding losta small miners means more hash rate, we don't want to fall behind the Diff rate rising, we want to get ahead of it a lot.
The only way I can see that happening is getting a number of large miners on board - but that wont be a lot of miners.
This will only attract a small number of miners, but make a big difference to the pool if we do get some.

See, I wasn't aware it was about the number of miners. I thought it was strictly the hash rate that affected the diff. Interesting.

I think what he means is that there is only a small number of people who own 9.5PH or higher worth of gear vs you, me, DPos2, and others buying up enough gear to combine for 9.5PH or higher. It's easier to get a bigger fish to move over than for all of us to do it collectively.

Ahh, my mistake. Transferring existing PH over to this pool, not encouraging more to join mining, got it. Sometimes it pays to sit back a bit before posting. That definitely makes more sense hahaha

rifleman74

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4 s9's 2 821's

Quote from: perfectplus174 on February 20, 2018, 06:05:01 PM

Quote from: kano on February 20, 2018, 06:03:27 PM

Quote from: fjtropepe on February 20, 2018, 05:51:41 PM

Quote from: Biffa on February 20, 2018, 07:50:05 AM

Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool...

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself.

I guess not everyone agrees with you... Grin

No I agree with Biffa.
It's about getting the hash rate up a lot.

While adding losta small miners means more hash rate, we don't want to fall behind the Diff rate rising, we want to get ahead of it a lot.
The only way I can see that happening is getting a number of large miners on board - but that wont be a lot of miners.
This will only attract a small number of miners, but make a big difference to the pool if we do get some.

See, I wasn't aware it was about the number of miners. I thought it was strictly the hash rate that affected the diff. Interesting.

I think what he means is that there is only a small number of people who own 9.5PH or higher worth of gear vs you, me, DPos2, and others buying up enough gear to combine for 9.5PH or higher. It's easier to get a bigger fish to move over than for all of us to do it collectively.

rifleman74

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4 s9's 2 821's

Quote from: kano on February 20, 2018, 06:03:27 PM

Quote from: fjtropepe on February 20, 2018, 05:51:41 PM

Quote from: Biffa on February 20, 2018, 07:50:05 AM

Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool...

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself.

I guess not everyone agrees with you... Grin

No I agree with Biffa.
It's about getting the hash rate up a lot.

While adding losta small miners means more hash rate, we don't want to fall behind the Diff rate rising, we want to get ahead of it a lot.
The only way I can see that happening is getting a number of large miners on board - but that wont be a lot of miners.
This will only attract a small number of miners, but make a big difference to the pool if we do get some.

Essentially doubling the hash rate is what you're looking for, so up to 100PH or so?

perfectplus174

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Quote from: kano on February 20, 2018, 06:03:27 PM

Quote from: fjtropepe on February 20, 2018, 05:51:41 PM

Quote from: Biffa on February 20, 2018, 07:50:05 AM

Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool...

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself.

I guess not everyone agrees with you... Grin

No I agree with Biffa.
It's about getting the hash rate up a lot.

While adding losta small miners means more hash rate, we don't want to fall behind the Diff rate rising, we want to get ahead of it a lot.
The only way I can see that happening is getting a number of large miners on board - but that wont be a lot of miners.
This will only attract a small number of miners, but make a big difference to the pool if we do get some.

See, I wasn't aware it was about the number of miners. I thought it was strictly the hash rate that affected the diff. Interesting.

kano

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Quote from: fjtropepe on February 20, 2018, 05:51:41 PM

Quote from: Biffa on February 20, 2018, 07:50:05 AM

Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool...

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself.

I guess not everyone agrees with you... Grin

No I agree with Biffa.
It's about getting the hash rate up a lot.

While adding losta small miners means more hash rate, we don't want to fall behind the Diff rate rising, we want to get ahead of it a lot.
The only way I can see that happening is getting a number of large miners on board - but that wont be a lot of miners.
This will only attract a small number of miners, but make a big difference to the pool if we do get some.

Biffa's idea works also, but I don't think everyone is trying to keep up with the Diff changes, so we need to keep ahead of them somehow.

perfectplus174

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I guess that's one way to bring in the big dogs. Damn!!!

I still wouldn't mind paying a small amount more like raising the fee to .095 % to pay anyone who finds a block an extra reward. It could still be optional for whoever wanted to participate. Still just throwing simple ideas out there. I'm sure that could be coded in somehow? lol not my strong suit.

rifleman74

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4 s9's 2 821's

I like this, I like this a lot!

fjtropepe

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Quote from: Biffa on February 20, 2018, 07:50:05 AM

Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool...

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself.

I guess not everyone agrees with you... Grin

clgrissom3

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Carl, aka Sonny :)

Quote from: kano on February 20, 2018, 04:46:54 PM

So ... in an attempt to get some large miners on board

I'll post this here now and then work out how to get the attention of said larger miners ...

10 BTC giveaway to LARGE miners

Anyone with NON-RENTAL hash rate - i.e. their own miners, who shows on the rewards page a "Your N Avg" of exactly 9.5PH/s or more -
yes a large miner - for any block that they find, will get a bonus 1 BTC block finder reward for up to a maximum of 3 blocks per miner.

Total BTC I'll be giving out will be 10 BTC i.e. a total of ten 1 BTC block finder rewards.

The bonus 1 BTC block finder reward will not be taken from the block reward to miners - i.e. no miners will be getting paid less due to the block finder reward.

So how can a large miner get this 1, 2 or 3 BTC bonus reward?
They have to ramp up to over 9.5PHs then find a block.

Are there any quick ways to ramp up to 9.5PHs?
Yep - if you have 20PHs then you'll ramp up to 9.5PHs in less than 2.5Nd i.e. twice as fast.
Of course if you have more than that, the ramp to 9.5PHs will be faster again.

Does this affect the ramp time?
Yes, adding more hash rate to the pool reduces the time of the 5Nd ramp.
e.g. at the moment assuming we were 50PH/s then adding another 10PH/s to the pool would reduce the ramp time by 20%

If you know anyone on any bitmain pools or slush (which is probably now a bitmain pool also) with over 10PH then tell them about it

... and cryptostarusa can't get it

Dang, that is a serious promotion!

Shazam!!!

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#takeminingback

Thank you Kano! This is why I want to support your pool, your support is unrivaled! Hopefully, some more members will
participate in some simple promoting, it's literally the least we could do for a great service YOU provide!

Biodom

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Quote from: bigolin on February 20, 2018, 03:53:50 PM

Alright everyone...

If you've got hate in your heart...let it out.

I am by no means a graphic designer but we've all been saying we need to do SOMETHING to spread the word. I've come up with a few graphics and as of now I'm just wanting input or if you can do it better then by all means, please do it better.
https://s13.postimg.org/x5u74em3r/Copy_of_Copy_of_KANO_1.jpg

https://s13.postimg.org/w3k0lvb07/Copy_of_Copy_of_KANO_2.jpg

https://s13.postimg.org/mvrs56jdj/Copy_of_Copy_of_KANO_3.jpg

https://s13.postimg.org/xvczgshif/Copy_of_KANO.jpg

https://s13.postimg.org/5ihhqbgcn/KANO.jpg

Good job, some are quite interesting.
That said, It should be https://kano.is (not http)

kano

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Quote from: Thrash on February 20, 2018, 05:00:39 PM

Quote from: bigolin on February 20, 2018, 04:57:38 PM

In case anyone wants to spread the word about the new giveaway...

https://postimg.org/image/xp3vr6pyr/

Might want that link to be:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30717631

There are a lot of pages here.

Edit: I had linked to the wrong post

It's in the first post also.

Thrash

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Quote from: bigolin on February 20, 2018, 04:57:38 PM

In case anyone wants to spread the word about the new giveaway...

https://postimg.org/image/xp3vr6pyr/

Might want that link to be:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30717631

There are a lot of pages here.

Edit: I had linked to the wrong post

bigolin

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In case anyone wants to spread the word about the new giveaway...

https://postimg.org/image/xp3vr6pyr/

Thrash

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Quote from: kano on February 20, 2018, 04:46:54 PM

So ... in an attempt to get some large miners on board

I'll post this here now and then work out how to get the attention of said larger miners ...

10 BTC giveaway to LARGE miners

Anyone with NON-RENTAL hash rate - i.e. their own miners, who shows on the rewards page a "Your N Avg" of exactly 9.5PH/s or more -
yes a large miner - for any block that they find, will get a bonus 1 BTC block finder reward for up to a maximum of 3 blocks per miner.

Total BTC I'll be giving out will be 10 BTC i.e. a total of ten 1 BTC block finder rewards.

The bonus 1 BTC block finder reward will not be taken from the block reward to miners - i.e. no miners will be getting paid less due to the block finder reward.

So how can a large miner get this 1, 2 or 3 BTC bonus reward?
They have to ramp up to over 9.5PHs then find a block.

Are there any quick ways to ramp up to 9.5PHs?
Yep - if you have 20PHs then you'll ramp up to 9.5PHs in less than 2.5Nd i.e. twice as fast.
Of course if you have more than that, the ramp to 9.5PHs will be faster again.

Does this affect the ramp time?
Yes, adding more hash rate to the pool reduces the time of the 5Nd ramp.
e.g. at the moment assuming we were 50PH/s then adding another 10PH/s to the pool would reduce the ramp time by 20%

If you know anyone on any bitmain pools or slush (which is probably now a bitmain pool also) with over 10PH then tell them about it

... and cryptostarusa can't get it

Wow! Thank you Kano.

Hopefully we can pick up another 75-100PH. This is an outstanding offer in my opinion.

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