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legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)


While the S9's each ramp up separately, you would be producing more total shares as they ramp up and earn more per block found as well. The ramping up may seem like a hurdle, but you have to remember there is always a "ramp down" period that is equal to the ramp up period. If you ever move machines or unplug them, you get rewards from blocks found after that even when you don't have your hashrate in the pool at the time.

Thanks for your response, this is helpful.

I'm not too bothered about having benefits due to ramp down.  In fact, the ramp up is not a big concern for me either, as in general, Im will to point to a pool and just leave it.

My main concern is .. i've tried quite a few pools and have gotten large variances in payout for the same equipment (even what is said on pools estimated data on their websites).  Im just trying to gauge the "steady state" payout (leaving difficulty out of the equation for the moment, as that applies to all pools), and which one is best for me to just set & forget.

For the past 5 days, i've been comparing Antpool, viaBTC, Bitcoin.com, Slush & Kano in parallel.  Kano is the only one that i'm not able to compare directly.

If the experienced folks here can share some insight as to what reward per S9, i could typically get (based on average luck & diff in the past few weeks) ..... i'm willing to point all my 121TH at the pool.

Go to page 1704 and read the posts on that page.  There have been many excellent posts on the earnings subject and this one comes to mind.  Also on the home page of https://www.minergain.com/, there is a coins/day comparison between pools that is interesting as well. Cheesy

Page 1705 was pretty good on the subject of payout comparisons also. Cheesy
newbie
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While the S9's each ramp up separately, you would be producing more total shares as they ramp up and earn more per block found as well. The ramping up may seem like a hurdle, but you have to remember there is always a "ramp down" period that is equal to the ramp up period. If you ever move machines or unplug them, you get rewards from blocks found after that even when you don't have your hashrate in the pool at the time.

Thanks for your response, this is helpful.

I'm not too bothered about having benefits due to ramp down.  In fact, the ramp up is not a big concern for me either, as in general, Im will to point to a pool and just leave it.

My main concern is .. i've tried quite a few pools and have gotten large variances in payout for the same equipment (even what is said on pools estimated data on their websites).  Im just trying to gauge the "steady state" payout (leaving difficulty out of the equation for the moment, as that applies to all pools), and which one is best for me to just set & forget.

For the past 5 days, i've been comparing Antpool, viaBTC, Bitcoin.com, Slush & Kano in parallel.  Kano is the only one that i'm not able to compare directly.

If the experienced folks here can share some insight as to what reward per S9, i could typically get (based on average luck & diff in the past few weeks) ..... i'm willing to point all my 121TH at the pool.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 506
I started an s9 on Dec 31st, just  got fully ramped on the 22nd so the next block we find  will be a fully ramped up payout
legendary
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Mine for a Bit
Current 5Nd is 12 days 19 hrs from https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

Thanks for the info VRobb!  

PPLNS acts like the reward 'ramps up' when you first start mining.
What actually happens?

The 5Nd means it takes that long to reward your shares.
The ramp isn't missing rewards, it's delaying them to reduce variance.
Each share is rewarded in all the blocks found in the 5Nd after the share.
That's simply how it reduces variance. Each share's reward is averaged out over the 5Nd after it.
The pool hash rate for the last day is roughly 43.35PHs which means the 5Nd 'ramp' is roughly 12days 19hrs.
hero member
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I'm in BTC XTC
legendary
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Mine for a Bit
How many days is 5Nd nowdays?  It use to be 5 days.

I put a miner here on the January 13th.  Today, January 24th, I am half way through 5Nd.

hero member
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I'm in BTC XTC
So, I apologize if this is a stupid question or has been asked before in this massive thread...
Is it correct that as the overall pool hash rate goes up, the overall payout per share goes down?
Would this then also mean the hashrate below which only dust payouts are given keeps going up.

I am a bit concerned that if I am not able to add more hashrate to my measly 26-27TH and the pool grows by a lot, then the rewards per block will get to the dust level.
I know that is probably a long way off but it is still a thought that crossed my mind.  Is there a way to calculate where the "dust-only" cut-off is?

(Disclaimer:  I hope to add another 11TH in March when the 821 gets delivered so maybe I should just stop worrying about it - feel free to tell me that  Smiley)
You're well above the "dust" threshold, and that will become a moot point soon enough when kanosan finishes the accounting code in the near future. Dust currently would be less than 1THs...
Mine on!
member
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Overall pool hash rate going up means pay per block goes down, but frequency of blocks found goes up.

Understood but the payout is on each block so there would be a point at which you go below the minimum threshold.  For example, if only had 1TH right now then I would likely not receive a payout until Dr. Kano implements the dust payments.
member
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The pool has grown almost 50% since the beginning of the month (30 PH to 45 PH), so that is a good sign to stay around the 3 day block luck average, even after the next difficulty increase tonight.

if just half the users at the pool add 20Th we'll gain another 16PH which will make it a full double from 30PH!

I'll be adding 23TH in the next few weeks.  Smiley

I'm adding 22TH with one 821 in Feb and another coming in March!
full member
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So, I apologize if this is a stupid question or has been asked before in this massive thread...
Is it correct that as the overall pool hash rate goes up, the overall payout per share goes down?
Would this then also mean the hashrate below which only dust payouts are given keeps going up.

I am a bit concerned that if I am not able to add more hashrate to my measly 26-27TH and the pool grows by a lot, then the rewards per block will get to the dust level.
I know that is probably a long way off but it is still a thought that crossed my mind.  Is there a way to calculate where the "dust-only" cut-off is?

(Disclaimer:  I hope to add another 11TH in March when the 821 gets delivered so maybe I should just stop worrying about it - feel free to tell me that  Smiley)

Overall pool hash rate going up means pay per block goes down, but frequency of blocks found goes up.
member
Activity: 85
Merit: 16
So, I apologize if this is a stupid question or has been asked before in this massive thread...
Is it correct that as the overall pool hash rate goes up, the overall payout per share goes down?
Would this then also mean the hashrate below which only dust payouts are given keeps going up.

I am a bit concerned that if I am not able to add more hashrate to my measly 26-27TH and the pool grows by a lot, then the rewards per block will get to the dust level.
I know that is probably a long way off but it is still a thought that crossed my mind.  Is there a way to calculate where the "dust-only" cut-off is?

(Disclaimer:  I hope to add another 11TH in March when the 821 gets delivered so maybe I should just stop worrying about it - feel free to tell me that  Smiley)
newbie
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Merit: 0
Waltz or Tango? What do you think would work better?  Smiley
jr. member
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Alright boys and girls...

We just crossed 100%. Time to get those dancing shoes on, play some Steve Miller Band "Dance, Dance, Dance", and let's sweetly...gingerly...quietly...lovingly unwrap this block!

MINE ON!
newbie
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Merit: 2
ok, seeing as the last time I - *jumped on the pool*, we found the block... In the same spirit, I added another 8TH.  I suppose you could call it another 16TH as I added another 8 immediately after that last block.

Mine on!

Great!
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 18
ok, seeing as the last time I - *jumped on the pool*, we found the block... In the same spirit, I added another 8TH.  I suppose you could call it another 16TH as I added another 8 immediately after that last block.

Mine on!
sr. member
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I like big BITS and I cannot lie.


here we go, folks.

MINE ON
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I'm in MO USA with 8 cent electric. Have access to a warehouse, and thinking of starting a host site. To make it worth it we would need a few miners. I'm supposed to hear back from some people in the next week. I will keep you all updated if we get something going. If you were serious and wanted to meet and great that could be arranged. Mine on

I could be interested in this. I'm in NWA, what part of MO you in, or should I say, is the warehouse in?

South central to southwest. Sounds close.
Use PM to discuss this please - it's OK to post about it, but in the same manner as selling machines, discussion about working out the details should be done in PM
newbie
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Merit: 0
I'm in MO USA with 8 cent electric. Have access to a warehouse, and thinking of starting a host site. To make it worth it we would need a few miners. I'm supposed to hear back from some people in the next week. I will keep you all updated if we get something going. If you were serious and wanted to meet and great that could be arranged. Mine on

I could be interested in this. I'm in NWA, what part of MO you in, or should I say, is the warehouse in?

South central to southwest. Sounds close.
jr. member
Activity: 136
Merit: 2
I'm in MO USA with 8 cent electric. Have access to a warehouse, and thinking of starting a host site. To make it worth it we would need a few miners. I'm supposed to hear back from some people in the next week. I will keep you all updated if we get something going. If you were serious and wanted to meet and great that could be arranged. Mine on

I could be interested in this. I'm in NWA, what part of MO you in, or should I say, is the warehouse in?
member
Activity: 658
Merit: 21
4 s9's 2 821's
We're essentially at the 100% mark, let's do some little chicken dances to get this one finished and onto the next one!



MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!
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