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Hello Kano,
When are we going  to get back the held payouts?
Thank you


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zhd
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Hello Kano,
When are we going  to get back the held payouts?
Thank you
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I am so confused... I did check Shift Graph page and that little red line is at the verrrrry bottom. Maybe because I just started mining..? Like 2 hours ago..? And Slush in the meantime scored 4 blocks since then lol.
First off, welcome!  If we find a block right now, you will not get much of anything for 2 hours of work.  In two weeks you will see huge rewards compared to slush.  Check out the home page on minergain dot com.  You will see a stat for CDT which is Coin per Day per Th.  With that, you can compute where your reward "will be" when you are fully "vested" with your 5ND.  The week is the last 7 days, month is the last 30 and quarter is the last 90.  This gets adjusted once per hour based on all the blocks found.  As you see, the CDT is going down on slush and up on Kano.  That is because there are so many miners on slush now compared to a month and quarter ago.  And the quarter for kano is low because there were two 800%+ blocks in October which Kano tells me that he has never seen before in a month.

So yes, the 4 blocks may have paid you some small fee, but it totally is worth it to switch...  Just be patient and mine on!
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Not exactly... 16 days is the 5Nd and is 5 times network diff, so we expect to hit 5 Blocks in 16 days @current diff if pool hashrate stays steady and luck holds at 100%...  Wink
Mine on!   Cool

Cool, thanks man. So, today is 15th, and this month has 31 days. We have exactly 5Nd left. We stay 100% lucky, we'll find 5 blocks right before Feb. And on 31st, how many of those 5 blocks will be paid to the miners by then? Haha, sorry man.

Whatever happens, happens. Mine on!

I all completely depends on how many of the blocks have matured (100+ confirms) buy the time the last block is found.  If a block isn't done confirming, then it has to wait until next block.  I haven't been here that long, but only see this happening when we get blocks fast.

For 5ND time, easiest thing to do is to look at your "shift graph".  The little red line tells you what your average is.  Once the average gets to what you are really hashing, you are fully ramped up.  You can estimate what percentage you are really getting and what you can estimate when you are fully ramped by dividing shift average by what you are really hashing.  eg..... My average is 4.3TH/s on a avalon 741.  So 4.3/7.4 is 58% of what I would get when I am totally ramped.  Assume that they other 42% will be paid back on ramp down if you pull off the network, but you can at least get a grasp on what your normal payouts will look like when you are ramped.

I do have a question.....It seems like a "luckier" person would have a ramp up time during a period of "bad luck" for the pool.  In other words, during the ramp up time, if we find fairly few blocks, the effect of 5ND ramp (not getting full payout) is negligible compared to if we find a ton of blocks.  Is this thinking correct?

I am so confused... I did check Shift Graph page and that little red line is at the verrrrry bottom. Maybe because I just started mining..? Like 2 hours ago..? And Slush in the meantime scored 4 blocks since then lol.

Talking about lucky person or not lucky person, say in my case (2 hours mining on Kano), if Kano scores a block right now, will my reward for it be so low? Because of that red line that needs to ramp up? And tomorrow we find another block and my reward for it will be 1/5th of 5Nd? We keep finding blocks until my 5Nd is equaled, and then I'll start getting rewards worthy of my hash rate or I'll be rewarded just fine (like others who have started mining prior to me) for my hash rate?

Well, it's past 11pm, I'ma go to bed and check back the forum with a fresh mind Cheesy

Sleep tight and mine on guys.
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Not exactly... 16 days is the 5Nd and is 5 times network diff, so we expect to hit 5 Blocks in 16 days @current diff if pool hashrate stays steady and luck holds at 100%...  Wink
Mine on!   Cool

Cool, thanks man. So, today is 15th, and this month has 31 days. We have exactly 5Nd left. We stay 100% lucky, we'll find 5 blocks right before Feb. And on 31st, how many of those 5 blocks will be paid to the miners by then? Haha, sorry man.

Whatever happens, happens. Mine on!

It all completely depends on how many of the blocks have matured (100+ confirms) buy the time the last block is found.  If a block isn't done confirming, then it has to wait until next block.  I haven't been here that long, but only see this happening when we get blocks fast.

For 5ND time, easiest thing to do is to look at your "shift graph".  The little red line tells you what your average is.  Once the average gets to what you are really hashing, you are fully ramped up.  You can estimate what percentage you are really getting and what you can estimate when you are fully ramped by dividing shift average by what you are really hashing.  eg..... My average is 4.3TH/s on a avalon 741.  So 4.3/7.4 is 58% of what I would get when I am totally ramped.  Assume that they other 42% will be paid back on ramp down if you pull off the network, but you can at least get a grasp on what your normal payouts will look like when you are ramped.

I do have a question.....It seems like a "luckier" person would have a ramp up time during a period of "bad luck" for the pool.  In other words, during the ramp up time, if we find fairly few blocks, the effect of 5ND ramp (not getting full payout) is negligible compared to if we find a ton of blocks.  Is this thinking correct?
newbie
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Not exactly... 16 days is the 5Nd and is 5 times network diff, so we expect to hit 5 Blocks in 16 days @current diff if pool hashrate stays steady and luck holds at 100%...  Wink
Mine on!   Cool

Cool, thanks man. So, today is 15th, and this month has 31 days. We have exactly 5Nd left. We stay 100% lucky, we'll find 5 blocks right before Feb. And on 31st, how many of those 5 blocks will be paid to the miners by then? Haha, sorry man.

Whatever happens, happens. Mine on!
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Not exactly... 16 days is the 5Nd and is 5 times network diff, so we expect to hit 5 Blocks in 16 days @current diff if pool hashrate stays steady and luck holds at 100%...  Wink
Mine on!   Cool
newbie
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Just switched to Kano from Slush Smiley

Left with a question, what happens when my miner goes off for like 20 minutes due to power outage, or internet connection in between blocks? For example, I mine for like 2 days and then power goes off, 20 minutes goes and comes back, and in that time pool finds a block..? I mined for a while now, but still don't get all these PP+, PPL+, PPLNS+, FOSHIZZLE+ things... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(See Help->Payouts on the web site)

Your reward each block, depends on the value of shares you submitted in the previous 5Nd when the block is found.
Since at the moment the 5Nd hovers around 16 days, losing 20 minutes, an hour, or even a day, will only reduce your reward by a small % at the moment.
It will of course, also take the same amount of time to get back up to your current reward level, as your outage.

You can replace 5Nd below with 16 days at the moment, but that changes with the pool hash rate.
The effect is the same in that you have the same expected BTC, it's just that the 5Nd may be shorter if the pool hash rate increases, so you're expected to get the BTC faster.

However, since you've only just started, it will take 5Nd from when you started to reach full reward.
(and of course if you stop you'll get another 5Nd of decreasing rewards after that)

So, if we find a block today, I'll get the reward for it in basically 16 days right? But since I just started, it'll be very very low as well right? But if we double in hash power, it'll come down to 8 days etc from my understanding..? I got bills to pay right on the last day of the month every month, I hope I'll be alright Tongue

Thanks Kano. Let's get lucky!
legendary
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Just switched to Kano from Slush Smiley

Left with a question, what happens when my miner goes off for like 20 minutes due to power outage, or internet connection in between blocks? For example, I mine for like 2 days and then power goes off, 20 minutes goes and comes back, and in that time pool finds a block..? I mined for a while now, but still don't get all these PP+, PPL+, PPLNS+, FOSHIZZLE+ things... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(See Help->Payouts on the web site)

Your reward each block, depends on the value of shares you submitted in the previous 5Nd when the block is found.
Since at the moment the 5Nd hovers around 16 days, losing 20 minutes, an hour, or even a day, will only reduce your reward by a small % at the moment.
It will of course, also take the same amount of time to get back up to your current reward level, as your outage.

You can replace 5Nd below with 16 days at the moment, but that changes with the pool hash rate.
The effect is the same in that you have the same expected BTC, it's just that the 5Nd may be shorter if the pool hash rate increases, so you're expected to get the BTC faster.

However, since you've only just started, it will take 5Nd from when you started to reach full reward.
(and of course if you stop you'll get another 5Nd of decreasing rewards after that)
newbie
Activity: 78
Merit: 0
Just switched to Kano from Slush Smiley

Left with a question, what happens when my miner goes off for like 20 minutes due to power outage, or internet connection in between blocks? For example, I mine for like 2 days and then power goes off, 20 minutes goes and comes back, and in that time pool finds a block..? I mined for a while now, but still don't get all these PP+, PPL+, PPLNS+, FOSHIZZLE+ things... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
How do miners choose transactions? Does Kano manually choose which transactions we accept on the block?
Miners don't choose transactions.
Effectively 'Core' chooses the transactions, with their code that I use.

As it says on the first post:
Quote from: kano
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Transactions
The pool will mine any and all transactions that the standard bitcoind core will accept.
The relevant setting I currently use in bitcoin.conf is:
 blockmaxweight=3968888 (changed to this on 12-Nov-2017)
I run a modified bitcoind that optimises the processes of verifying blocks and generating work.
These optimisations are code based, not transaction based.
I do not blacklist addresses, I do not prioritise transactions for any companies ... though I do prioritise our own transactions of course Smiley
If this should ever change, I will post the details when I do the change with the reasons why.
...
legendary
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I used Google Authenticator  , but I changed my phone . I can't sign in my account . Please help me!
When you set up 2FA it said to save the Secret Key.
You can use that Secret Key to manually set it up on the apps listed on the 2FA page.

But i forgot it . T_T
If your device is still working, then use the 2FA web page option " to replace your Secret Key " to get a new one that you can save - to replace the old one.

If your device isn't working and you did not save the Secret Key, then your account is effectively locked out forever.
The point of 2FA is to have no way to get around it.
That's why it says both the following on the 2FA setup page:
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WARNING: if you lose your 2FA device you will need to know
the 2FA Secret Key to manually setup a new device,
so your should copy it and store it somewhere securely.
For security reasons, the site will not show you an active 2FA Secret Key.

If you wish to cancel setting up 2FA, click here: Cancel
and
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WARNING: once you have successfully tested and enabled 2FA,
you will be unable to access or even reset your account without 2FA.
There is no option to recover your 2FA from the web site,
and you must know your 2FA code in order to be able to disable 2FA.

If you are locked out of your account, create a new one and switch over to that.
As the old account rewards ramp down, the new account rewards will ramp up.
Works the same as what I mentioned on the previous page:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28153965
newbie
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I used Google Authenticator  , but I changed my phone . I can't sign in my account . Please help me!
When you set up 2FA it said to save the Secret Key.
You can use that Secret Key to manually set it up on the apps listed on the 2FA page.

But i forgot it . T_T
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Added 2 more S9's - now mining with 10   Grin
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How do miners choose transactions? Does Kano manually choose which transactions we accept on the block?
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4 s9's 2 821's
Next block solved by us will include THREE payments.  Let's mine that block!


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!
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They haven't updated the iOS version yet? Latest android version allows fees so low the txn can get stuck.  How do I know that you ask?  Roll Eyes

 I've read a few things regarding an update, but if they were rolling it out they sure have not rolled it out for iOS yet...


Sorry to hear about your stuck transaction. That actually brings up a question I've always had. When someone says a "stuck transaction", does that mean it will eventually confirm? Or does that mean your money is gone forever in limbo; committed to an address that will never receive it?


Just wait until there is no other transactions waiting and yours will be picked.  Only certain amount of transactions can be in a block, and the miners are picking the highest rewarded transactions.  So,  until the transaction count gets low enough that the low fee ones start being added.  I guess the transaction will be there for a long time.  Or if people start refusing to pay large transaction fees and everyone is picking a lower fee, then the playing field will be more even.

jr. member
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They haven't updated the iOS version yet? Latest android version allows fees so low the txn can get stuck.  How do I know that you ask?  Roll Eyes

 I've read a few things regarding an update, but if they were rolling it out they sure have not rolled it out for iOS yet...


Sorry to hear about your stuck transaction. That actually brings up a question I've always had. When someone says a "stuck transaction", does that mean it will eventually confirm? Or does that mean your money is gone forever in limbo; committed to an address that will never receive it?
hero member
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They haven't updated the iOS version yet? Latest android version allows fees so low the txn can get stuck.  How do I know that you ask?  Roll Eyes
jr. member
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Best IOS wallet?

Sorry to ask this on the pool thread, but since it relates to miner wallets I figured you folks would be the best source of information. 

 I am using Mycelium and I like it a lot. But I really need one feature it doesn't have: the ability to set a custom minor fee level. The low priority setting is even too high.    I think it is running about 08 mBTC per byte. Even transactions in the .004 in mBTC area are confirming within a reasonable amount of time. When all I am trying to sweep a miner wallet and I don't care that it takes a day instead of 4 hours, even this low priority level too high.

Any ideas?
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