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Time to do the Block Dance!! Bring on the Chicken and the Anime Princess!! How about a BLOCK!!!
Mine On with Kano-San.  Smiley
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I was curios to know the amount of data 1 S9 used.. So I looked on the stats on my switch.  This was for 1 full week of 24/7 mining ( I think there was a power cycle but nothing major)

This is on the Switch port for 1 S9

   Bytes Transmitted: 508 638 552   Downloaded
Packets Transmitted: 6328715

   Bytes Received: 1 278 968 648      Uploaded
Packets Received: 5944259

Was looking to see if I can use a cellular backup in case internet connection goes down.  

Those numbers above were for a full 7 days.
Well the packet count to and from the pool is pretty simple:

All data coming and going is well under 4kb so never be more than a single packet.

Shares sent (and a reply):
18 shares a minute * 60 mins * 24 hrs * 7 days = 181,440 packet sent and replied.

Work received (and a reply):
2 work per minute * 60 mins * 24 hrs * 7 days = 20,160 packets received and replied.

So that says about 200k packets sent and received per week.
Hmm I wonder what the other ~400k packets are that you're seeing ...

Monitoring? Firmware updates? Bitmain hidden code? Smiley

As for the amount of data:
A share is about 190 bytes sent to the pool (for a 15 byte user+worker name) and a 92 byte reply.
Work is a bit under 1400 bytes received from the pool and a 52 byte reply.

So using those numbers:
181,440 * 190 + 20,160 * 52 = 35,521,920 or a bit under 36Mb sent to the pool a week per miner.
and
20,160 * 1400 + 181,440 * 92 = 44,916,480 or a bit under 45Mb received from the pool a week per miner.

I think there is quite a lot of non-pool traffic in your numbers.

I realized after I read your post...  Yeah, I have two instances of Awesome miner monitoring the S9's  So my Big Data on them is probably mostly from there! I also did do firmware upgrades on a couple.    Haha  Funny..  I should sniff the network and see if there is a bitmain hidden code!  Their firmware isn't the most up to date on their website..  so Might be something I'll check into.  Sniff Sniff....

You must love numbers...  That was alot of math :-P


Very interested in what you find...sniff, sniff..... could they be multiplexing your hash? Holding back blocks? Interesting, yes that is a lot of extra traffic on your port for just "mining". Keep looking, Antpoo has not been the award winner for ethics.
jr. member
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I was curios to know the amount of data 1 S9 used.. So I looked on the stats on my switch.  This was for 1 full week of 24/7 mining ( I think there was a power cycle but nothing major)

This is on the Switch port for 1 S9

   Bytes Transmitted: 508 638 552   Downloaded
Packets Transmitted: 6328715

   Bytes Received: 1 278 968 648      Uploaded
Packets Received: 5944259

Was looking to see if I can use a cellular backup in case internet connection goes down.  

Those numbers above were for a full 7 days.
Well the packet count to and from the pool is pretty simple:

All data coming and going is well under 4kb so never be more than a single packet.

Shares sent (and a reply):
18 shares a minute * 60 mins * 24 hrs * 7 days = 181,440 packet sent and replied.

Work received (and a reply):
2 work per minute * 60 mins * 24 hrs * 7 days = 20,160 packets received and replied.

So that says about 200k packets sent and received per week.
Hmm I wonder what the other ~400k packets are that you're seeing ...

Monitoring? Firmware updates? Bitmain hidden code? Smiley

As for the amount of data:
A share is about 190 bytes sent to the pool (for a 15 byte user+worker name) and a 92 byte reply.
Work is a bit under 1400 bytes received from the pool and a 52 byte reply.

So using those numbers:
181,440 * 190 + 20,160 * 52 = 35,521,920 or a bit under 36Mb sent to the pool a week per miner.
and
20,160 * 1400 + 181,440 * 92 = 44,916,480 or a bit under 45Mb received from the pool a week per miner.

I think there is quite a lot of non-pool traffic in your numbers.

I realized after I read your post...  Yeah, I have two instances of Awesome miner monitoring the S9's  So my Big Data on them is probably mostly from there! I also did do firmware upgrades on a couple.    Haha  Funny..  I should sniff the network and see if there is a bitmain hidden code!  Their firmware isn't the most up to date on their website..  so Might be something I'll check into.  Sniff Sniff....

You must love numbers...  That was alot of math :-P

legendary
Activity: 4634
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I was curios to know the amount of data 1 S9 used.. So I looked on the stats on my switch.  This was for 1 full week of 24/7 mining ( I think there was a power cycle but nothing major)

This is on the Switch port for 1 S9

   Bytes Transmitted: 508 638 552   Downloaded
Packets Transmitted: 6328715

   Bytes Received: 1 278 968 648      Uploaded
Packets Received: 5944259

Was looking to see if I can use a cellular backup in case internet connection goes down.  

Those numbers above were for a full 7 days.
Well the packet count to and from the pool is pretty simple:

All data coming and going is well under 4kb so never be more than a single packet.

Shares sent (and a reply):
18 shares a minute * 60 mins * 24 hrs * 7 days = 181,440 packet sent and replied.

Work received (and a reply):
2 work per minute * 60 mins * 24 hrs * 7 days = 20,160 packets received and replied.

So that says about 200k packets sent and received per week.
Hmm I wonder what the other ~400k packets are that you're seeing ...

Monitoring? Firmware updates? Bitmain hidden code? Smiley

As for the amount of data:
A share is about 190 bytes sent to the pool (for a 15 byte user+worker name) and a 92 byte reply.
Work is a bit under 1400 bytes received from the pool and a 52 byte reply.

So using those numbers:
181,440 * 190 + 20,160 * 52 = 35,521,920 or a bit under 36Mb sent to the pool a week per miner.
and
20,160 * 1400 + 181,440 * 92 = 44,916,480 or a bit under 45Mb received from the pool a week per miner.

I think there is quite a lot of non-pool traffic in your numbers.
member
Activity: 238
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I was curios to know the amount of data 1 S9 used.. So I looked on the stats on my switch.  This was for 1 full week of 24/7 mining ( I think there was a power cycle but nothing major)

This is on the Switch port for 1 S9

   Bytes Transmitted: 508 638 552   Downloaded
Packets Transmitted: 6328715

   Bytes Received: 1 278 968 648      Uploaded
Packets Received: 5944259

Was looking to see if I can use a cellular backup in case internet connection goes down. 

Those numbers above were for a full 7 days.

I have a cellular modem on backup - data usage seems fine for more than a few miners Smiley

BLOCK DANCE TIME!
jr. member
Activity: 196
Merit: 4
I was curios to know the amount of data 1 S9 used.. So I looked on the stats on my switch.  This was for 1 full week of 24/7 mining ( I think there was a power cycle but nothing major)

This is on the Switch port for 1 S9

   Bytes Transmitted: 508 638 552   Downloaded
Packets Transmitted: 6328715

   Bytes Received: 1 278 968 648      Uploaded
Packets Received: 5944259

Was looking to see if I can use a cellular backup in case internet connection goes down. 

Those numbers above were for a full 7 days.
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Activity: 210
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i'd really like to know why they jumped from 1415USD that I paid for them to 2320usd now.  I was reading on another thread they think these last batches that came out early was some older ones they re-conditioned.  Had the issues with the fan ramping up and down, and some other details that were very similar to the early s9's that had same issues.  I have not owned any before, but I do know that 2 of the 4 that I had received had different fans on them, and they were not the same as each other also.  I wondered about that.  but the other two had the same fan ( with yellow sticker) as the first s9 i got back in November.

Something is going on with it. _ I really wonder why the firmware of Nov 15 that is on a couple of the new S9's is not on their website. They still have Aug 15 there.  Strange......


Personally, I am waiting to load up on the Canaan A8 series miners. I hope they make enough of them to fill demand. I eventually want to get to the 300TH/S range. We shall see.

Come On Lady Luck, you beautiful Anime Princess. Find us a block. Smiley

Mine On with Kano-San, KANO the best Bitcoin Mining Pool on Earth.
jr. member
Activity: 196
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i'd really like to know why they jumped from 1415USD that I paid for them to 2320usd now.  I was reading on another thread they think these last batches that came out early was some older ones they re-conditioned.  Had the issues with the fan ramping up and down, and some other details that were very similar to the early s9's that had same issues.  I have not owned any before, but I do know that 2 of the 4 that I had received had different fans on them, and they were not the same as each other also.  I wondered about that.  but the other two had the same fan ( with yellow sticker) as the first s9 i got back in November.

Something is going on with it. _ I really wonder why the firmware of Nov 15 that is on a couple of the new S9's is not on their website. They still have Aug 15 there.  Strange......
newbie
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S9's are up for like $2300 on Bitmain right now.  March 1-10 shipping.
thanks, bought 4  Smiley

It's not a good time to send BCH.  Miners are only getting like 4 blocks an hour.  Taking forever to get to 6 confirmations.
newbie
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S9's are up for like $2300 on Bitmain right now.  March 1-10 shipping.
thanks, bought 4  Smiley
newbie
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S9's are up for like $2300 on Bitmain right now.  March 1-10 shipping.
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
There was a failover at 03:39 UTC on the LA half of the Stratum node.
It was a network disconnect but didn't reconnect until 5 minutes later.
All miners connected to the LA node will have failed over to their 2nd pool setting but will be failing back now.
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Is there a way to see my miners production beyond the last 695 Shifts?
Roughly - by the rewards page Smiley
Each reward shows the details for the 5Nd before it and the time length of the 5Nd.
Of course they do overlap.
newbie
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Is there a way to see my miners production beyond the last 695 Shifts?
newbie
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As of now, I am Number 100!  Just added my Jan 21, S9 that just got delivered.  Still ramping up for the last S9 added last week.  Cant wait until fully ramped!

Mine on and hit some blocks!

Tripp
legendary
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We need a group buy on renting some hashing power. I haven't really sat down and mathematically drawn it up on paper yet by the hypothesis is: Wouldn't it be cheaper if 20-30 miners rented additional hashing power instead of buying new equipment. Obviously, being able to effectively manage something like that would be one thing but the management issue aside, pooled resources always have a cheaper cost to the end user (not necessarily an overall savings).

These efforts usually end up badly.  Best thing is if you had a few local friends to pool together and get an operation going than do that but even then you'll probably lose a few friends as some pull out and force others to pay more and etc etc just like bands break up all the time

As soon as the fingers start pointing it's over


That is why I stated that the management is another story. In theory though, it just makes sense that we would be better off doing that then spending 7k on miners.

Kano: Is this something you would be open to letting us do?
Firstly, rental is certainly a very bad idea.
It's in the person who owns the hardware's best financial interest to withhold blocks.
If they can get away with doing it (not hard to do) then it's really a major conflict of interest.

As for a group buy (of hardware), well the issue is that I certainly can't manage it, since I'm in the wrong part of the planet.
You have to trust whoever gets the hardware, so there's no point adding me to attempt to reduce the risk.

I'm on Steve's mailing list and was included in the "Do you want to be a distributor?" emails.
Of course my answer was "no reply", coz I'm in the wrong part of the planet ... and I spend all possible time running the pool ... yeah I'm not gonna even consider taking on a distributor job - the pool takes up plenty of time and I'm happy just to do that Smiley

Though funnily enough I am trying to get into the top 15 miners on the pool at the moment ... hopefully Cheesy ... but you don't really need a lot of miners at the moment to get into the top 15 Tongue
I've still not found a block in the 3 and a bit years the pool has been running, though I mine rather randomly (not much at all) lately.
My BDR is still just under 0.8 - damn I wanna be on the Acclaim list Smiley
legendary
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HI Kano,

is there a way for you to help me Accelerate two transactions? i sent them from a very old wallet to my new wallet, at the time i didnt know how much the fees hiked since the old wallet software was built. the fee attached to the TX below are 0.0002, and 0.0004 respectively, and i don't knwo hwo to get them accelrated, theyve been stuck in limbo for a week + now:

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thanks for any help you can lend!
...
Heh that's a bad question to ask not in PM Smiley
Coz it means I have to reply ...

Firstly, the straight answer is 'no'.
That's the answer I give to everyone who asks, except I think probably on fewer occasions than I can count on one hand, over the last few years.
If the inputs are from another pool, then it's pretty much a case of ... yeah right ... why are you even asking?

The basic point is that if we accelerate transactions, we are reducing our rewards.
One or two is no real big deal, but as soon as I say yes, it will become a flood of people who make low fee transactions wanting us to confirm them.
... and since it's a few days between blocks at the moment, it's even more of a loss to confirm low fee transactions since it's the equivalent of applying that low fee transaction to a few days of rewards.

The fix is: don't make low fee transactions ...
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I don't want to brag or anything but I am now in the top 100  Grin Grin Grin

Nice pepe...I will join this club very soon (currently 117).   One new miner will propel into the top 100.  WE NEED MORE HASH RATE!

What's the cut off for the top 100 these days? 150 ths? 100?

~56th/s or higher is top 100
full member
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I don't want to brag or anything but I am now in the top 100  Grin Grin Grin

Nice pepe...I will join this club very soon (currently 117).   One new miner will propel into the top 100.  WE NEED MORE HASH RATE!

What's the cut off for the top 100 these days? 150 ths? 100?
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 506
Calculated the time to find a block at current pool hash rate, looks like ~72 hours so we should have a block within 6 hours!
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