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legendary
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Block! by 1H... Smiley
That's his second one recently - woo!

Yay Block!

This is our 1st of BLOCK THURSDAY! Cheesy

If you are ramped up rewards seem to be about 4.5x what they were when we were at 200PH
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Block! by 1H... Smiley
That's his second one recently - woo!

Yay Block!

This is our 1st of BLOCK THURSDAY! Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Block! by 1H... Smiley
That's his second one recently - woo!
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
I'm saying that Asicminer.co people are criminal scammers,

and Ebang has a bad product quality.
sr. member
Activity: 508
Merit: 250
Ebang and Asicminer.co are both full of shit.

So, what you’re saying is all 3 of these is just a scam?  Huh Cry
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
Ebang and Asicminer.co are both full of shit.
sr. member
Activity: 508
Merit: 250
Yeah, 10-12 cents sounds about right for the U.S and of course isn’t acceptable to mine with at the moment.  The 7 cents that they offered you for the winter isn’t bad at all!  Although even at that price you will probably have to struggle with your bill.  Embarrassed

I was thinking of buying some of the insilicone 47th/2100w miners, which seem to be about the only ones that can still make a profit but I’ve never purchased from them before and not sure that they even have them in stock. 

  Have you or anyone in this pool ever bought anything from these guys?
Yes, even at 7 cents, I am losing money - but I am using it for heat so that helps offset it in my mind a little.  I have not bought from insillicon but it appears that this is pre-order.  It also seems that they are from China, so if you are in the US, be prepared to pay 27% above the $2,279 price.  By the time March arrives, the BTC price may continue to decline or difficulty may go crazy again, so it may take years to get your purchase price covered beyond the power.  Also, there is a slim chance that they may never deliver a quality product (or any), so be prepared to throw your BTC away.

Most of the people on this forum usually wait until someone has actually received a unit and tested it out.  Of course someone needs to be that person, so if it is you, please share your findings!

Yeah, heating the house is good, I heat up mine a little when needed.  Unfortunately it isn’t needed much where I’m located so it would be nice to make some miners heat up the water, since that costs a lot too.  I’ve heard that Russians heat have transformed some of their farms to do just that in Moscow, I think.

And yes, I’ve heard about the 27% and I know that it would take forever to get the ROÍ anyhow but at least the miners aren’t as expensive anymore.  For example I payed for all my S9’s like $2300 each!!!  And now they are like $400 with the power supply!!!  That was a horrible deal!  But that’s how it goes, you win some and you loose some.  Undecided

I’m not sure about that T3 model, I think there were a couple more miners that put out lots of TH and use little electricity.  My brother sent me a link like a month ago with the list of them but I can’t find it anymore.  Embarrassed


Found it!!!



One is Ebang Ebit E11++ which supposedly puts out 44th at only 1980w

And the Asicminer 8 Nano which puts out 44th at 2100w just like the T3

If anyone had any kind of business with one of these companies, please let us know.  Thanks!  Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 508
Merit: 250
As far as Inno is concerned they've missed the last 2 product launches if I'm not mistaken. This is going back to October when the t2t+ should have been shipped.

I'll dig a little more in my emails but I did have a back and forth going for a bit until they stopped responding, about the same time they sent a mass email that showed all recipients and the price drop.

Wow!  That’s good to know!  Thanks!  I thought that they looked identical to the Antminers, just with an Insilicone sticker on the side!  Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 508
Merit: 250
Yeah, 10-12 cents sounds about right for the U.S and of course isn’t acceptable to mine with at the moment.  The 7 cents that they offered you for the winter isn’t bad at all!  Although even at that price you will probably have to struggle with your bill.  Embarrassed

I was thinking of buying some of the insilicone 47th/2100w miners, which seem to be about the only ones that can still make a profit but I’ve never purchased from them before and not sure that they even have them in stock. 

  Have you or anyone in this pool ever bought anything from these guys?
Yes, even at 7 cents, I am losing money - but I am using it for heat so that helps offset it in my mind a little.  I have not bought from insillicon but it appears that this is pre-order.  It also seems that they are from China, so if you are in the US, be prepared to pay 27% above the $2,279 price.  By the time March arrives, the BTC price may continue to decline or difficulty may go crazy again, so it may take years to get your purchase price covered beyond the power.  Also, there is a slim chance that they may never deliver a quality product (or any), so be prepared to throw your BTC away.

Most of the people on this forum usually wait until someone has actually received a unit and tested it out.  Of course someone needs to be that person, so if it is you, please share your findings!

Yeah, heating the house is good, I heat up mine a little when needed.  Unfortunately it isn’t needed much where I’m located so it would be nice to make some miners heat up the water, since that costs a lot too.  I’ve heard that Russians heat have transformed some of their farms to do just that in Moscow, I think.

And yes, I’ve heard about the 27% and I know that it would take forever to get the ROÍ anyhow but at least the miners aren’t as expensive anymore.  For example I payed for all my S9’s like $2300 each!!!  And now they are like $400 with the power supply!!!  That was a horrible deal!  But that’s how it goes, you win some and you loose some.  Undecided

I’m not sure about that T3 model, I think there were a couple more miners that put out lots of TH and use little electricity.  My brother sent me a link like a month ago with the list of them but I can’t find it anymore.  Embarrassed
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 2037
As far as Inno is concerned they've missed the last 2 product launches if I'm not mistaken. This is going back to October when the t2t+ should have been shipped.

I'll dig a little more in my emails but I did have a back and forth going for a bit until they stopped responding, about the same time they sent a mass email that showed all recipients and the price drop.
member
Activity: 285
Merit: 10
Free mining equipment tracking and reporting
Yeah, 10-12 cents sounds about right for the U.S and of course isn’t acceptable to mine with at the moment.  The 7 cents that they offered you for the winter isn’t bad at all!  Although even at that price you will probably have to struggle with your bill.  Embarrassed

I was thinking of buying some of the insilicone 47th/2100w miners, which seem to be about the only ones that can still make a profit but I’ve never purchased from them before and not sure that they even have them in stock. 

  Have you or anyone in this pool ever bought anything from these guys?
Yes, even at 7 cents, I am losing money - but I am using it for heat so that helps offset it in my mind a little.  I have not bought from insillicon but it appears that this is pre-order.  It also seems that they are from China, so if you are in the US, be prepared to pay 27% above the $2,279 price.  By the time March arrives, the BTC price may continue to decline or difficulty may go crazy again, so it may take years to get your purchase price covered beyond the power.  Also, there is a slim chance that they may never deliver a quality product (or any), so be prepared to throw your BTC away.

Most of the people on this forum usually wait until someone has actually received a unit and tested it out.  Of course someone needs to be that person, so if it is you, please share your findings!
member
Activity: 285
Merit: 10
Free mining equipment tracking and reporting

I was surprised since the Kano YTD on the home page was always higher than slush.  But I see that right now it is lower.  With the two soft months in a row on Kano, that drops the values down.  When we find a block, the Week, Month, quarter and YTD will probably be over slush again since we get paid hundreds (or thousands) of times more per miner Th. 

agreed.
I just checked how I calculate the adjusted numbers since know I had a bug where the slush blocks were being stored without the 2% fees.  This also impacts the home page CDT values a little bit...  I just made a change to force the pool fee every few minutes if any are not set - and I discovered that this function was not including the pool fees at all..  I also was doing the dollar value based on full price before the fees. 

After the adjustments, it makes them even closer.  Sorry for the undocumented features...
sr. member
Activity: 508
Merit: 250
I guess since the hash rate drop from the large guy leaving, and others who want less variance, some others have left also.

I guess people prefer higher fees, fake information, and less reliable service.
None of which I've done here Tongue

The "100 Luck%" shows luck drifting around, between 93% and 107%, (on 100 blocks) so that's actually all quite as expected.
Alas, pool size decides how long the good and bad luck lasts, and even at 200PH, some miners still don't get it Tongue
I doubled my miners in October and again in November.  Granted I am still tiny compared to most with only 8 S9's now, but I must admit that with the lower blocks and BTC prices since I upgraded, it has been painful to see my electric bill climb without out the return to help cover those increased costs.  That said, I continue to hang here with Kano since the pool is expertly managed by a seasoned pro, everyone shares their knowledge and insights, and I left in the first place because I wanted the opportunity to see the high monthly rewards that often appear with a smaller pool. 

I am confident that we will see several more amazing months arrive soon (and I predict we will see 3 blocks before the end of the year).  Once the luck turns, those who continue to Mine On with Kano will surely be pleased with HUGE payouts per block due to our our lower pool hash rate.  Plus when the pool hoppers come back, we will reap the short term benefits of being fully ramped up (of course the newcomers will get their reward for the effort they put in as well).  Obviously these are tricky times (as they have been in the past as I understand).  So everyone needs to determine their level of risk and do what makes sense.

Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and Mine On with Kano!

You will definitely have a green streak sooner or later! Because it should even out to 100% in the end, how long will it take for that to happen, no one knows.  If I only had 8 S9’s I would probably too still be in this pool, just paying the electric bill from my pocket for now, knowing that I will get a return later.

How much you pay per kilowatt?  If not a secret?
Normally it is .1204 in the summer in .1054 in the winter.  I just finished working with power company and they agreed to "control" my miners and cut the price to .0936 in summer and .0696 in winter.  My geothermal has been on that program for years, and I expect that they will probably cut my miner's power for about 8 hours or less each month of Dec / Jan / Feb and similar in July / August / Sept.

Yeah, 10-12 cents sounds about right for the U.S and of course isn’t acceptable to mine with at the moment.  The 7 cents that they offered you for the winter isn’t bad at all!  Although even at that price you will probably have to struggle with your bill.  Embarrassed

I was thinking of buying some of the insilicone 47th/2100w miners, which seem to be about the only ones that can still make a profit but I’ve never purchased from them before and not sure that they even have them in stock. 

  Have you or anyone in this pool ever bought anything from these guys?
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 2419
EIN: 82-3893490

I was surprised since the Kano YTD on the home page was always higher than slush.  But I see that right now it is lower.  With the two soft months in a row on Kano, that drops the values down.  When we find a block, the Week, Month, quarter and YTD will probably be over slush again since we get paid hundreds (or thousands) of times more per miner Th. 

agreed.
member
Activity: 285
Merit: 10
Free mining equipment tracking and reporting
I ran it back for 24 months and the variance was only about $1200. I was surprised to see that no matter the time range I use that kano was actually a lower net payout, but not by a huge variance.
I was surprised since the Kano YTD on the home page was always higher than slush.  But I see that right now it is lower.  With the two soft months in a row on Kano, that drops the values down.  When we find a block, the Week, Month, quarter and YTD will probably be over slush again since we get paid hundreds (or thousands) of times more per miner Th. 
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 2419
EIN: 82-3893490

I updated this so you can input your months now (be aware a max of 100 records are displayed so many months will not work well on daily report).  Unfortunately I do not have viabtc stats older than a few months yet.  I do have slush since they began and several years of Kano.

Yes, it is important to look at everything long term.  The amazing thing to me is that since we are just "rolling dice", it is possible that even with this lower hash rate (which is climbing thankfully) we could get 3 blocks in the next hour - or even 15.  Granted it is not likely but possible.  If that were to happen, the numbers would instantly change to a very different story.


nice! thanks for the addition! Even with viabtc not going back as many months - the comparison for Slush vs Kano shows that even with past 12 months that the variance is only in the $300 range.



I ran it back for 24 months and the variance was only about $1200. I was surprised to see that no matter the time range I use that kano was actually a lower net payout, but not by a huge variance.
member
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I think, for some, they simply look at what each pool can offer them for the month - not always looking at long term. I will use this snapshot as an example - wish that minergain went a full year back though to show a more thorough comparison, but for this example the past 2 months should work.




so in the example I will use 71 th/s (about average for 5 S9's) for the past 2 months, even with the increased payout due to smaller pool - I do realize that due to the ramping down of those that left that the payout would have been higher had they been fully ramped down - but for this example, this still works - with Kano finding 13 blocks, the reward would be $380 with Kano while it would have been $681 with slush and $755 with BTC

for some - that is all that matters - the monthly pay. My guess is because they often reinvest the profits to get more miners.

for the 3 months I mined with Kano, I used 5 S9's - I also had placed 5 S9's on 3 other larger pools. The net variance between the 4 different pools was very very minimal. So, yes the luck usually eventually even it all out. You may just need deep pockets to hold you over till it does, if you were not here when it was really good.
I updated this so you can input your months now (be aware a max of 100 records are displayed so many months will not work well on daily report).  Unfortunately I do not have viabtc stats older than a few months yet.  I do have slush since they began and several years of Kano.

Yes, it is important to look at everything long term.  The amazing thing to me is that since we are just "rolling dice", it is possible that even with this lower hash rate (which is climbing thankfully) we could get 3 blocks in the next hour - or even 15.  Granted it is not likely but possible.  If that were to happen, the numbers would instantly change to a very different story.
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 2419
EIN: 82-3893490
I think, for some, they simply look at what each pool can offer them for the month - not always looking at long term. I will use this snapshot as an example - wish that minergain went a full year back though to show a more thorough comparison, but for this example the past 2 months should work.




so in the example I will use 71 th/s (about average for 5 S9's) for the past 2 months, even with the increased payout due to smaller pool - I do realize that due to the ramping down of those that left that the payout would have been higher had they been fully ramped down - but for this example, this still works - with Kano finding 13 blocks, the reward would be $380 with Kano while it would have been $681 with slush and $755 with BTC

for some - that is all that matters - the monthly pay. My guess is because they often reinvest the profits to get more miners.

for the 3 months I mined with Kano, I used 5 S9's - I also had placed 5 S9's on 3 other larger pools. The net variance between the 4 different pools was very very minimal. So, yes the luck usually eventually even it all out. You may just need deep pockets to hold you over till it does, if you were not here when it was really good.
member
Activity: 285
Merit: 10
Free mining equipment tracking and reporting
I guess since the hash rate drop from the large guy leaving, and others who want less variance, some others have left also.

I guess people prefer higher fees, fake information, and less reliable service.
None of which I've done here Tongue

The "100 Luck%" shows luck drifting around, between 93% and 107%, (on 100 blocks) so that's actually all quite as expected.
Alas, pool size decides how long the good and bad luck lasts, and even at 200PH, some miners still don't get it Tongue
I doubled my miners in October and again in November.  Granted I am still tiny compared to most with only 8 S9's now, but I must admit that with the lower blocks and BTC prices since I upgraded, it has been painful to see my electric bill climb without out the return to help cover those increased costs.  That said, I continue to hang here with Kano since the pool is expertly managed by a seasoned pro, everyone shares their knowledge and insights, and I left in the first place because I wanted the opportunity to see the high monthly rewards that often appear with a smaller pool. 

I am confident that we will see several more amazing months arrive soon (and I predict we will see 3 blocks before the end of the year).  Once the luck turns, those who continue to Mine On with Kano will surely be pleased with HUGE payouts per block due to our our lower pool hash rate.  Plus when the pool hoppers come back, we will reap the short term benefits of being fully ramped up (of course the newcomers will get their reward for the effort they put in as well).  Obviously these are tricky times (as they have been in the past as I understand).  So everyone needs to determine their level of risk and do what makes sense.

Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and Mine On with Kano!

You will definitely have a green streak sooner or later! Because it should even out to 100% in the end, how long will it take for that to happen, no one knows.  If I only had 8 S9’s I would probably too still be in this pool, just paying the electric bill from my pocket for now, knowing that I will get a return later.

How much you pay per kilowatt?  If not a secret?
Normally it is .1204 in the summer in .1054 in the winter.  I just finished working with power company and they agreed to "control" my miners and cut the price to .0936 in summer and .0696 in winter.  My geothermal has been on that program for years, and I expect that they will probably cut my miner's power for about 8 hours or less each month of Dec / Jan / Feb and similar in July / August / Sept.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.

That's the PPLNS advantage, slow to ramp up, slow to ramp down...

yep! I am getting at least something! I think I have been offline for a month now Sad

I have technical problems about AntMiner  Undecided Offline since fall.
The S5 you have is outdated already, just give it a rest. There is no point to use your time fixing it.

Yea i know, but bitcoin pool ASIC reward? 12.5 BTC... BTC hashing have been big digital industry. Biggest pools is on ASIA.

I've said this to you like hundred times. You don't have a chance to get 12.5btc unless you are solo mining.

Do you understand the concept of solo mining ?

3700 dollars is big profit/24h  Roll Eyes

You don't get the entire block if you solve one here.   This is not a solo pool.

Ok, its my mistake  Huh Sometimes look at pool interface (example block 0.031% solved) Even if im mining NOT SOLO. I understand, now im not stupid  Smiley

Well it took you a pretty long time to figure it out.
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