Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 747. (Read 5352367 times)

Yes, the 3rd one in the list, Zach Monroe's CKPool Monitor can send email alerts for under-performing/down miners and pool blocks.

I do have and use the CKPool app so I get alerts on my iPhone but sometimes my phone is MIA. So I was wondering if there was an email alert that could be setup.

There are 3 really good free apps listed on the 1st page of this thread; we get notice of found blocks within minutes of new blocks when we are not at our computers:

There's Apps to get pool info and monitor your miners.

Apple App:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ckpool-stats-iphone-app-1344360

Android App, read in the thread here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11091187

For miner monitoring:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kanopool-monitor-hashrates-workers-rewards-and-notifications-for-kanpool-1331875

Send any donation/whatever to them for using them - since they wrote them.

Is it possible for us to get notifications from the pool when blocks are found without 3rd party software like Awesome Miner?

As I may have mentioned along the way, I've only been into crypto for about 3 months, so I hope everyone excuses my stupidity - and thanks for the insights Kano.  Yes, I am totally convinced that passwords should never be given out - ever - unless you dont want your mining rewards of course!  That is a great idea to monitor the blockchain directly.  It looks like blockchain.info has an api to get json info.  Is that the best source?  I have always firmly believed in reducing traffic to sites as much as possible (including my 14 year internet based digital signage business) and since I will be offering monitoring for multiple pools, that makes the most sense.  

I may be able to estimate the reward based on the hash rates reported and I know which block you are mining and can get the value from blocktrail.com or blockchain.info - is there a better source than others?  Also out of curiosity, I ran our current block 492189 and it is saying that it was mined by BTC.com.  So is BTC.com the better place to get information?  I almost wonder if I should set up a full node since all details would happen real time - but then there is the space and bandwidth issue to serve other nodes.  I will also be monitoring half a dozen other coins initially, so that also adds to the difficulty.  I have never done (or heard of) IRC before the last couple months.  Is that another way to get the information without polling (my base server is a LAMP stack vm on centos)?

Thanks again for your insights Kano - and if you think this is not worthwhile, let me know that too.  I do see that the other products mentioned have a cost and likely require more technical expertise (obviously more info too).  But it may not the best fit for small miners like me just getting started.

Like I said. Just playing around with my half knowledge.  
So 0.6% "stale" shares are pretty low, if I remember earlier postings here. Okay.


About your Log analysis...this sounds really horrible work to do.
I hope it's worth it and you'll find anything interesting or helpful.

Thanks for all this!

That's 2 different things

The checking I'm doing for the bad luck that showed up as two blocks around 900% isn't complete - that involves analysing a whole month of data logs ... I'm still working on it.

A stale is simply (as I mentioned) a share that gets to the pool late.
If you look at the web site you'll see that 0.6% of shares do that: the shares you send to the pool that are rejected as stale.
If one happens to be a block, that's what happened.

I'm wondering what is the actual status of our luck or block finding "problem"?

Did you find something particular while doing your research?
Or are we officially back to normal?

Sorry about spreading half knowledge, but was our stale block last time a "problem" of latencies in any kind of way?


COME ON BLOCKS!!!

If I wasn't obvious in my previous post: yes anyone would be insane to give their login details to anyone else.

An API for rewards may exist some time in the future, but it is certainly not a priority, there are much more important things being done, required to be done, and planned to be done.
But polling an API for rewards would also be pointless - since the API would only change once every time we find a block.

You known when blocks occur.
You can even work that out without even accessing the web site or the pool or even mining.
I do at home for IRC and my own notifications, though of course the pool gives me notifications as well, but the more obvious point is that any site that shows blocks that is in any way useful also knows who finds the blocks by the majority of the pools by looking at the coinbase transaction when a block change occurs.

But, the math you use to calculate information is up to you.

thanks
you are so smart 

Yeah, I use Awesome Miner to monitor and maintain my miners. I certainly like it better than going to multiple miner IP web tabs to make changes. And it does provide almost all the information one would be interested in located in one location.

It also gives a per day, per month prediction of what the miners "should" earn. Unfortunately, it doesn't prove to be very accurate with our high variance. It MAY work better on a different type of pool. I WISH its predictions were spot on! I'd be very happy!

I will look into those. Saves me lots of time writing this system. So I keys will never be public though.... Only used for that miners secure info, nothing  will be public except when blocks are found in pools.

Minergain, you *do* know that much of what you describe is already available for folks using monitor sw like Awesome Miner or Cryptoglance right? Difference is, the software is running to monitor what goes on with their farms and that is what people care about - not how the whole pool per se is doing though Awesome for one does make a lot of pool into available based on what Kano's API allows.

Being their mine only, no problem telling the monitor app what our API key is since it is for private use as intended. Making that info public - not here bucko!

My goal is to have the miner enter their power and any pro rated costs so there is a cost per second to operate the miner. Then the miner van  select that they want a report issued via text or email once per day, week or whenever a block is found. I would list their earnings, costs based on the time it took to find the block and overall profit for the block. I eventually want to have an analysis of how their past performance in other pools "Would have been". Obviously the past  is the past, so maybe not worth it.  When I was in slush, my custom monitoring system would text me whenever a block was found where I profited more that day 50%. That is a piece of what I hope to offer to all miners for free forever. And if they see value,  maybe a donation or two  will come in.

Yes, I probably won't go down  the road of usernames because my site would be subject to attack.  So if the API won't offer past  payments fur the miner, then that info won't be offered. But I still will be able to offer alerts for miner problems which is also valuable. So could I use my hash rate and kano payment to compute other miners payments based  on the hash rate ratios that their miners generated?

Sorry this is so confusing.

You can't compute them in advance.

You will find no predictions about future rewards on the web site for a reason, it's random and I'm not interested in providing guesses about what people might get in the future.

The payout generation code takes 2-5 seconds to determine the 5Nd and calculate the rewards.
It also has to wait until after a certain set of events to ensure the value is correct - usually about 15 minutes.

There is simply an 'expected' reward if luck is 100%, actual rewards on the rewards page, and pool average pps%s on the blocks page for various ranges.

If you are requesting people to give you access to  their login password so you can guess what they will be paid in the future, you come off as a scam.
I certainly will not be removing the warning on the web site about that and would block any site doing logins to multiple accounts.
Mining is a lot of money, and anyone asking people for access to their money sounds like a phishing scam.

If I am understanding your post correctly, I don't think it can be done with any accuracy. A block we find might be 12.5 (with almost no transaction fees the miner earn) or a block with 2, 3 or 4 BTC in transaction fees.
So I think the wide range of block reward could not be accurately predicted.

If I'm misunderstanding your post, sorry about that.
And MINE ON!!

Kano, I am coding up various general information about Kano.is right now - plus based on the previous discussion on fees, I just started tracking bytes that need to be confirmed so that we can text / email people when fees are lower to consolidate smaller blocks.  

I am hoping to tell what the pool average we would be paid by at this exact moment.  Is there a way to calculate that with the information you show on the home page?  I know you have the instant hash rate, but I would like to have the PPLNS stored in 5 minute increments as well as the real time hash rate.  I suppose I could always estimate it by looking at all the previous 5 minute hashes for the 5Nd that you report on https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout, but that will probably lose a fair bit of accuracy in the translation.  

It would also be nice to be able to get the actual payouts from the api.  I plan to give the ability to text/email for every block and/or after they make a profit beyond their power and expenses.  As it currently stands, I will have to be asking for username, password and 2fa to be able to deliver those details from the Kano site, but most people will not want that information out.  Most of the other pools do share payout info via the api.

In any case, please share your thoughts on how I can compute the payout hash rates.  Thanks so much and I hope you are doing well.

Doesn't really matter.
The main block distribution is via the relay - which we're connected to all over the world, with nodes close to each relay point.
Our blocks get to them pretty quickly, as do block changes get to us, from them, pretty quickly.
The pool has 14 bitcoind around the world to help with this.
Of course, each node has one.

You get a reward when we find a block after you start mining.
Unfortunately the last one we found (on the previous page) was stale.
See Help->Payouts on the web site for more info.

How many blocks has the pool hit in the last 3 days since you started? There's your answer - you only get paid when we find a block.