Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 761. (Read 5352367 times)

The big drop hasn't been a lot of users.

With 62PH now are there still 1300 users?
I recalled there were 700~800 users when the pool was at ~60PH.

s9

up for 9d18h8m54s
gh/s (rt) 13,768.07
gh/s (avg) 13,777.77
found blocks 0
local work 42,733,327
utility 16.85
wu 191,989.27
best share 6106892878

Not going anywhere. We plan to add more hash power soon.

At the moment I'm still trying to get stats from certain large miners to find a single case of a miner finding a block that didn't show up on the pool.
This would show something wrong other than bad luck.
Unfortunately a lot of the big miners reset every so often and thus lose all the stats up to the reset point, so I've not been able to check that many.

Anyone else here of course if you have time to do it and can, please check your miners.
What I'm looking for is a miner with a "Best Share" above Network Difficulty (1196792694098.793)
Any shares found that should be blocks, I can convert the "Best Share" share difficulty into a block hash and check it matches one of the blocks on the pool.
There aren't hundreds of blocks in the last month, so it's not hard to check.

Meanwhile, if this continues on for much longer, I'll consider putting the pool into maintenance mode for a few days (i.e. stop all mining) and continue my investigation that way.
I'm considering going back to the old code I ran until segwit required the update, and re-implementing segwit and none of the other random changes in ckpool.
I've been running the same code non-stop since August-8 when I added the 🐈 to the coinbase, and of course we've not had anything like this before this week.
Thje  Aug-8 change was only a minor change to the earlier Jul-20 change for segwit. There's been no other changes I've implemented, in the past year, to the mining code.
The most difficult issue is the fact that we do find blocks, rather than none at all, thus if there was a problem, it wouldn't be as easy to reproduce.

Some large miners have already moved hash rate away, temporarily, due to the cost issue of paying very large electricity bills and other related costs.

I'm also considering completely blocking NiceHash, for any who use that, since their stats are pretty close to the 'unexpected' limit at the moment

This thread and situation are so depressing right now. I can't imagine what Kano goes through when stuff like this happens. All I have to offer is my hashing power and well wishes. Kano pool has both of those.
Good luck Kano pool (Kano). I'll be back in a few days of out of town.

Exactly.  Glad to see not everyone failed Stat!
Mine on and let's crack one already!! 

I would like to add Kano's node(s) to my node's whitelist.

Where can I find this information? Maybe it is private to prevent DoS attacks.

if it is something public please post it to add it to the whitelist of my nodes.

peace

Sorry for not digging deeper into my question.

I meant:
Could it be "a problem" with the new 0.15 core (or maybe not just the core itself) or let's say the network ALL OVER THE WOLRD
with probably more than 50% hosted in china!!??
Somehow the new block must be provided to the network (which is build by many many full node core hosts).
So if we find a block or are about to find a block in a second and another pool in china
is finding the "same" block and provides it to the chinese nodes because of the lower latency ( and which are probably more than 50% of the network)
and they get their block committed in that second we find the "right" block,
we even didn't get a chance to provide our block to the network or something like this.

So my question is:
Could we do anything, maybe by providing more full nodes in the western hemisphere, to get "more luck"
or just an even playground for this?

I think much of this stuff is also connected to low latencies (so it's also connected to how well the network is spread all over the world or near kanosan's server :-D )

Maybe I'm completely wrong but just for the protocol my 2 cents.


Oh and never mind kano. I think you're doing a great job!!!
I don't think there is anything wrong with your system.
I know it's just bad bad luck actually.

I am a noob to this pool as well, a noob to hands on mining since 2 weeks ago, my BCT forum account says I'm a "newbie" but but I've been messing with bitcoin since 2012 (or earlier) so not a noob to btc... So really these forum labels don't say much in the way of real experience lol 

I am a noob to this pool, having joined about a month ago, just in time to have the worst luck I have ever seen in my not so noobish 3.5 years of mining. 

Yes Kano just mentioned that he requested the rentals to stop mining for us, so it is all in hour hands now! .  I should add a couple of 14 th s9’s in a couple of days ( hope that helps a little ) but will most likely have to sacrifice couple of s7’s..  really don’t want to pull them off but the local power transformer will probably blow up if I add more lol.    

Mine on guys!  

Which is something I've been doing since the pool started over 3 years ago

There are limits to a sizeable sample of stats that say there is a problem, but we aren't at those limits yet.
But yes I'm already also checking things you can't check at the pool ... since I have contact with many of the large miners.

I second @padrinogtr's sentiment -- with all due respect @VRobb, everyone used to be a noob at some point (including you and Kano), until they weren't.  I won't speculate on how high Kano's aggravation level gets with noobs 'chiming' in the forum, but I will say that without noobs mining in the pool, this pool wouldn't grow and would most likely be forgotten by the ever increasing level of difficulty as the network grows, causing the runs of bad luck to become longer and more frequent.  

You don't need statistics to understand that

It's a nice level of rigor to hold in a pristine environment.  However, in the presence of enemy action there are no coincidences.  You wouldn't last long as an officer.

Consider that at current prices $3.6 billion dollar of bitcoin will be mined. 1% of that is $36 million.  Do you think people would fight tooth and nail over 36 million dollars?  It simply cannot be assumed that you are not exposed to people with malicious intent.  By the time you can confidently say using statistics that something is wrong the game will be over.  This is the real reason no sane pool operator runs PPS.

That said, I expect Kano is just having a run of shitty luck.  In his shoes I would be considering what an enemy might be doing, and how to detect it just in case.

give us a break
we like to learn also

Ah ok. Then i understand, more.

I taught Stat at Cal Poly during my university days, and indeed you get LOTS of false conclusions on these boards based on emotion instead of mathematical rigor.  Funny at first, then tiring, then irritating - especially when coming from longtime members who should know better...  
I'd hate to know how high kanosan's aggrivation level gets sometimes with all the noob du jours chiming in during a run of bad luck!  

I think I must have failed around 12% of my graduate students in Research Methods because they couldn't get their heads around that. 

That was a fast drop down in hash rate.

close to 100TH/s is gone ... I hope everything going back to normal
We definitely need some blocks