Kapa-Community Ministry Investment scam

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do you think people will still get fooled to vote him?

yeah, there are too many dumb voters in our country, and knowing that a lot of voters base their decision on popularity instead of achievements, I wouldn't be surprised if he got a lot of votes or (hopefully doesn't happen) possibly win the election.

Tingin ko hindi siya mananalo sa eleksyong ito pagka-senador dahil iba na ang mga botante ngayon, msyado ng marunong. Ang masaklap lang sa bansa natin ay pinapayagan pa rin ng constitution na tumakbo sa eleksyon kahit yong may mga kaso sana binago nila ito para naman kahit papano ay medyo malinis yong iboboto natin.

Hindi pwdeng baguhin yan kabayan, at hindi rin makatarugan na baguhin yan.

Ganito kasi ang explanation niyan, kung ang isang tao ay nasa kulungan or may kaso na, innocent pa rin siya hanggang meron ng hatol. paano kung yung nasa kulungan na at lumbas ang hatol na wala pala siyang kasalanan, di ba napaka unfair naman kung kukunin ang rights niya gayong wala naman siyang kasalanan.

Ganyan talaga ang batas sa Pilipinas, and I think kahit naman siguro sa ibang bansa. Ang justice system kasi natin ay mabagal, sabig nga nila, "Justice delayed, Justice denied", kaya marami rin mga inocente na nakukulong at nahahatulan dahil yung mga may pera lang ang may kayang kumuha ng mga magagaling na abogado.

Itong founder ng KAPA, marami ng evidence sa scam niya, until now hindi pa rin nahahatulan dahil maraming pera at maraming magagaling na abogado.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 06, 2021, 04:29:30 PM

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Quote from: mirakal on October 03, 2021, 03:52:56 AM

do you think people will still get fooled to vote him?

yeah, there are too many dumb voters in our country, and knowing that a lot of voters base their decision on popularity instead of achievements, I wouldn't be surprised if he got a lot of votes or (hopefully doesn't happen) possibly win the election.

Tingin ko hindi siya mananalo sa eleksyong ito pagka-senador dahil iba na ang mga botante ngayon, msyado ng marunong. Ang masaklap lang sa bansa natin ay pinapayagan pa rin ng constitution na tumakbo sa eleksyon kahit yong may mga kaso sana binago nila ito para naman kahit papano ay medyo malinis yong iboboto natin.

Hindi pwdeng baguhin yan kabayan, at hindi rin makatarugan na baguhin yan.

Ganito kasi ang explanation niyan, kung ang isang tao ay nasa kulungan or may kaso na, innocent pa rin siya hanggang meron ng hatol. paano kung yung nasa kulungan na at lumbas ang hatol na wala pala siyang kasalanan, di ba napaka unfair naman kung kukunin ang rights niya gayong wala naman siyang kasalanan.

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Quote from: acroman08 on October 05, 2021, 10:07:14 PM

Quote from: mirakal on October 03, 2021, 03:52:56 AM

do you think people will still get fooled to vote him?

yeah, there are too many dumb voters in our country, and knowing that a lot of voters base their decision on popularity instead of achievements, I wouldn't be surprised if he got a lot of votes or (hopefully doesn't happen) possibly win the election.

Tingin ko hindi siya mananalo sa eleksyong ito pagka-senador dahil iba na ang mga botante ngayon, msyado ng marunong. Ang masaklap lang sa bansa natin ay pinapayagan pa rin ng constitution na tumakbo sa eleksyon kahit yong may mga kaso sana binago nila ito para naman kahit papano ay medyo malinis yong iboboto natin.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 03, 2021, 03:52:56 AM

do you think people will still get fooled to vote him?

yeah, there are too many dumb voters in our country, and knowing that a lot of voters base their decision on popularity instead of achievements, I wouldn't be surprised if he got a lot of votes or (hopefully doesn't happen) possibly win the election.

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Quote from: arwin100 on October 05, 2021, 06:52:36 PM

San kaya yan kumuha ng kapal ng mukha para isiping iboboto sya ng taong bayan o baka last option nya to baka sakaling manalo at yung nauto nya dati ay mauto nya rin ngayon, pero napaka irrelevant na nito at malamang na hinding hindi ito mananalo dahil majority ng mga pilipino ay kilalang kilala sya bilang scammer kaya mabubulok sya dyan sa bilanggoan at sana wala nang kababayan natin na maniniwala sa kanya at sa ganitong scam na sistema na pinatatakbo ng mga ito dahil paulit-ulit nato at wag naman sana pa-uto ng maraming beses.

Nakakalungkot lang kasi talaga na may mga kababayan tayong naniniwala sa kanya na mababalik pa yung pera nila. Madami doon nafreeze na ng government na assets at cash kaya itong pagtakbo nya. Yun ata ang plano nya na alisin yyng freeze order ng mga assets at pera ng mga members niya pero sa totoo lang, pansariling interes lang ang iniiisip at asa lang talaga na manalo yan.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 03, 2021, 03:52:56 AM

Update on the founder of KAPA Ministry Investment scam, he is already detained as he got arrested but he is now running for Senator.

Here's the full story.

Detained founder of ministry in multibillion-peso scam wants Senate seat

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On Saturday, authorized representatives of Kapa-Community Ministry International Joel "Pastor" Apolinario filed a certificate of candidacy (COC) for senator on his behalf.

According to his representatives who refused to be identified, Apolinario, once elected would push for "jobs for the jobless," ownership of land among the homeless, and access to quality education through a "study-now-pay-later" scheme.

"Part of the advocacy of Pastor Joel is to be an educator and allow
Filipinos to access quality education," his representative told reporters.

He can still run for Senator because he is not convicted yet, but do you think people will still get fooled to vote him?

San kaya yan kumuha ng kapal ng mukha para isiping iboboto sya ng taong bayan o baka last option nya to baka sakaling manalo at yung nauto nya dati ay mauto nya rin ngayon, pero napaka irrelevant na nito at malamang na hinding hindi ito mananalo dahil majority ng mga pilipino ay kilalang kilala sya bilang scammer kaya mabubulok sya dyan sa bilanggoan at sana wala nang kababayan natin na maniniwala sa kanya at sa ganitong scam na sistema na pinatatakbo ng mga ito dahil paulit-ulit nato at wag naman sana pa-uto ng maraming beses.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 03, 2021, 03:52:56 AM

He can still run for Senator because he is not convicted yet, but do you think people will still get fooled to vote him?

The fact that he still have the guts to run for the senate means he still have a lot of supporters who has been constantly pushing him to file a candidacy.
Pero ang masasabi ko lang ay bobo at mangmang ang mga taong boboto sa kandidatong ito. He is clearly a fraud. KAPA was obviously a ponzi scheme, unsustainable. The only reason why that ponzi run for months is because it became popular sa Mindanao at marami ang nag lagay at nawalan ng pera noong inactionan na ng SEC.
Ang dating mag nanakaw ay gustong umupo kung saan hindi na sya mahihirapan pang mag nakaw. Yes, I'm judging him because he's the perfect definition of greed and fraud.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 03, 2021, 03:52:56 AM

He can still run for Senator because he is not convicted yet, but do you think people will still get fooled to vote him?

Meron pa rin talaga. Ang dami kong nakikita sa mga facebook pages nung nabalita yan may mga supporters siya at marami talagang nabulag yang kapa na yan.
Ang hirap lang talaga na maraming nabiktima at umaasa na mababalik pera nila. Ewan ko ba sa taong yan, may ambisyon din pala kaya yung nakulimbat na pera sa mga kababayan natin, gagawin lang pala nyang pondo sa pagtakbo pero sana di siya manalo.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 03, 2021, 03:52:56 AM

He can still run for Senator because he is not convicted yet, but do you think people will still get fooled to vote him?

Masyado ng sikat itong lider sa pagiging scammer para iboto pa ng mga tao sa pagiging senador. Sa tingin ko ang boboto na lang sa kanya ay yung mga inosente (walang alam sa mga nangyayari) o yung mga hindi nag iisip at hindi pinapahalagahan ang kanilang boto. Isa pa, non bailable din yung kanyang kaso kaya kung sakaling palarin sya manalo paano kaya nya magagampanan ang kanyang tungkulin? Hindi nga nya naipasa ng personal ang kanyang COC.

Dito lang ata talaga satin makakakita tayo ng mga tao o politiko na kahit may existing na kaso ay pwede pa ring tumakbo sa posisyon.

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Update on the founder of KAPA Ministry Investment scam, he is already detained as he got arrested but he is now running for Senator.

Here's the full story.

Detained founder of ministry in multibillion-peso scam wants Senate seat

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On Saturday, authorized representatives of Kapa-Community Ministry International Joel "Pastor" Apolinario filed a certificate of candidacy (COC) for senator on his behalf.

According to his representatives who refused to be identified, Apolinario, once elected would push for "jobs for the jobless," ownership of land among the homeless, and access to quality education through a "study-now-pay-later" scheme.

"Part of the advocacy of Pastor Joel is to be an educator and allow
Filipinos to access quality education," his representative told reporters.

He can still run for Senator because he is not convicted yet, but do you think people will still get fooled to vote him?

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Asan na din kaya yung mga pinagmamalaki nilang radio announcers? Alam ko may nahuli sa entrapment na isa noon eh.

Malamang sa malamang mga nanahimik na din at nagtatago na sa mga lungga nila.

Eto yung article sa nahuli na isang radio announcer nila nuon sa entrapment.
https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1080837

Quote from: chaser15 on July 22, 2020, 02:18:12 PM

Pero ano pa man, kitang-kita natin na talagang nagpalakas ng militarization ang KAPA para sa mga eksenang ganito dahil talagang alam nilang darating sila sa ganyang sitwasyon.

Good thing hindi nila na maximize yung paggamit dahil maganda yung pagka-plano ng operation. Nevertheless, naging useless din kahit pinaghandaan pa nila.

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Grabe mga kalibre ng baril na hawak nila. Mga di papahuli. Mabulok sana sa kulungan iyong lider.

Sa dami ng mga high caliber weapon na confiscated, i think meron yata silang kasabwat sa military, dapat din yan imbistigahan. Lessons learned din ito para sa mga scammer na kahit gaano pa kayo ka powerful, mahuhulog din kayo sa batas ng gobyerno.

Registered ang mga primary at secondary firearms ng military. Medyo mahirap din maglabas galing sa mga confiscated weapons nila para ibenta sa KAPA if ever. Base lang naman sa sariling knowledge ko.

Sa tingin ko sa mga makakaliwa (NPA or same group level) sila nakakuha ng mga armas. Puwede rin ang ibang armas ng KAPA ay talagang binili nila as registered firearm then hinalo na lang sa mga nakuha nila sa mga di licensed na baril.

Pero ano pa man, kitang-kita natin na talagang nagpalakas ng militarization ang KAPA para sa mga eksenang ganito dahil talagang alam nilang darating sila sa ganyang sitwasyon.

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Police recovered 30 M16 rifles, two M4s, one Garand rifle, three .60-caliber machine guns, one caliber-.50 sniper rifles, three caliber-.22 rifles, a carbine, a shotgun, two rocket-propelled grenade rifles, five caliber-.45 pistols, and several rounds of live ammunition of different caliber.

Bodyguard ni Apolinario iyong namatay. Naghanda talaga ang KAPA sa insidente na yan.

Grabe mga kalibre ng baril na hawak nila. Mga di papahuli. Mabulok sana sa kulungan iyong lider.

Sa dami ng mga high caliber weapon na confiscated, i think meron yata silang kasabwat sa military, dapat din yan imbistigahan. Lessons learned din ito para sa mga scammer na kahit gaano pa kayo ka powerful, mahuhulog din kayo sa batas ng gobyerno.

Sayang nga lang yong pera ng mga totoong biktima sa scam na ito dahil malabo na itong maibabalik.

Tagumpay na naman ito sa government natin dahil ang KAPA yata ang pinaka malaking scam dito sa Pilipinas, bilyon na ang nakuha nilang pera pero konte nalang siguro mababalik sa mga investors. Paano kaya yung mga ibang opisyal ng KAPA, di ba sila kasali sa kaso?

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Quote from: chaser15 on July 21, 2020, 06:57:15 PM

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Police recovered 30 M16 rifles, two M4s, one Garand rifle, three .60-caliber machine guns, one caliber-.50 sniper rifles, three caliber-.22 rifles, a carbine, a shotgun, two rocket-propelled grenade rifles, five caliber-.45 pistols, and several rounds of live ammunition of different caliber.

Bodyguard ni Apolinario iyong namatay. Naghanda talaga ang KAPA sa insidente na yan.

Grabe mga kalibre ng baril na hawak nila. Mga di papahuli. Mabulok sana sa kulungan iyong lider.

Sa dami ng mga high caliber weapon na confiscated, i think meron yata silang kasabwat sa military, dapat din yan imbistigahan. Lessons learned din ito para sa mga scammer na kahit gaano pa kayo ka powerful, mahuhulog din kayo sa batas ng gobyerno.

Sayang nga lang yong pera ng mga totoong biktima sa scam na ito dahil malabo na itong maibabalik.

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Quote from: Vaculin on July 21, 2020, 04:37:54 PM

~ Wala na talaga ang KAPA, tanong ko ngayon, makukuha pa kaya ng mga investors ang pera nila?

Paghahatian nila yung frozen bank accounts at iba pang seized assets ng KAPA. Around 100 million pesos din ata yun. Problema matagal ang proseso ng mga ito mula sa pagbebenta ng mga seized assets, pag-verify ng mga biktima, at pag-distribute.

Quote from: chaser15 on July 21, 2020, 06:57:15 PM

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Nawala iyong mga supporters nila a. Di nag-iingay nung nahuli iyong mahal na lider nila.

Matagal nang tumahimik yung mga legit na biktima nung nahimasmasan na. Emotional sila nung una eh dahil sa perang naipasok na nila.

Asan na din kaya yung mga pinagmamalaki nilang radio announcers? Alam ko may nahuli sa entrapment na isa noon eh.

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Quote from: Vaculin on July 21, 2020, 04:37:54 PM

Wala na talaga ang KAPA, tanong ko ngayon, makukuha pa kaya ng mga investors ang pera nila?

Di na totally macocover ang lahat pero baka may maliit na percentage. Kung magkakaroon ng paglipat ng mga assets ng KAPA sa gobyerno baka posible.

Nawala iyong mga supporters nila a. Di nag-iingay nung nahuli iyong mahal na lider nila.

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Police recovered 30 M16 rifles, two M4s, one Garand rifle, three .60-caliber machine guns, one caliber-.50 sniper rifles, three caliber-.22 rifles, a carbine, a shotgun, two rocket-propelled grenade rifles, five caliber-.45 pistols, and several rounds of live ammunition of different caliber.

Bodyguard ni Apolinario iyong namatay. Naghanda talaga ang KAPA sa insidente na yan.

Grabe mga kalibre ng baril na hawak nila. Mga di papahuli. Mabulok sana sa kulungan iyong lider.

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Good news guys.

Kapa Community Ministry founder arrested

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DAVAO CITY — Kapa Community Ministry International, Inc. founder Joel Apolinario was arrested in a joint operation conducted in Barangay Handayaman, Lingig, Surigao del Sur on Tuesday morning that also resulted in the death of an unidentified person and wounding of another.

In a report released by authorities, the 46-year old religious leader and 23 other persons were captured at a resort around 7:30 a.m. on July 21, on the strength of a warrant of arrest for syndicated estafa with no bail recommended that was issued by Judge Gil Bollzos of the Regional Trial Court in Cagayan de Oro City.

Wala na talaga ang KAPA, tanong ko ngayon, makukuha pa kaya ng mga investors ang pera nila?

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May mga kumakalat sa youtube ngayon na mga video saying dismiss na daw ang mga kasong ihinain laban sa KAPA pero ayon sa SEC, hindi ito totoo.

Narito ang bahagi ng SEC advisory

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The Commission was made aware of YouTube videos circulating in the internet featuring Mr. Bong Cagape’s YouTube Channel, where Mr. Joel Apolinario stated that all the cases against him and KAPA including those for violation of the Securities Regulation Code have been dismissed. Separate videos featured Mr. Danny Mangahas and Mr. Roger Camingawan reiterating the same allegation.

Furthermore, Mr. Camingawan stated that said dismissal will render the Cease and Desist Order issued by the Commission as void.

To set the record straight, on the contrary, all cases filed by the Securities and Exchange Commission against KAPA have not been dismissed but are still pending in various courts. Mr. Apolinario, et. al., are also facing separate charges for syndicated estafa for which the Cagayan De Oro Regional Trial Court Branch 21has issued a warrant of arrest for such non-bailable offense.

Again, do not just trust everything na sasabihin nila. Always verify.

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Quote from: btc78 on February 21, 2020, 01:27:16 AM

hindi ba ipinapaaresto na ang founder nito kasama ng mga officers nya?siguro naman ngayon mamumulat na ang mga taga suporta nito at matanggap na nilang na scam na sila,kasi madami pa ding umaasa na kikita sila dito at sinisira lang daw ng gobyernoi ang kanilang samahan.

lol, ganon talaga pag member ka, parang bias ka palagi dahil may personal interest ka, pero yung tinitingnan ng governmnet ay yung security ng karamihan dahil hindi naman sustainable ang ganitong HYIP or PONZI kahit sabihin nilang may business or investments sila.

Yung mga taong na brainwash na ng mga founders nitong scam networking business eh malamang ang interest ay tuloy pa rin sa paniniwalang
babangon at makakuha pa rin sila ng ganansya galing sa mga scammers. Mahirap talagang kumbinsihin pag nabulag na sa pera ang isang tao,
pero malaking bagay na rin yung tungkol sa pagpapaaresto kahit papano makakatulong sa mga bago pa lang na maaalok ng kung sinoman.

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Quote from: btc78 on February 21, 2020, 01:27:16 AM

hindi ba ipinapaaresto na ang founder nito kasama ng mga officers nya?siguro naman ngayon mamumulat na ang mga taga suporta nito at matanggap na nilang na scam na sila,kasi madami pa ding umaasa na kikita sila dito at sinisira lang daw ng gobyernoi ang kanilang samahan.

lol, ganon talaga pag member ka, parang bias ka palagi dahil may personal interest ka, pero yung tinitingnan ng governmnet ay yung security ng karamihan dahil hindi naman sustainable ang ganitong HYIP or PONZI kahit sabihin nilang may business or investments sila.

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