Kapa-Community Ministry Investment scam - page 6.

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Quote from: meldrio1 on June 21, 2019, 12:00:56 AM

Quote from: Bes19 on June 19, 2019, 11:48:49 AM

Okay marami syang natutulungan but the fact na may nilalabag silang batas ndi yun okay. Saka ang ayaw ko sa KAPA na yan ginagamit ang ministry for their own sake. Kelan ka pa nakarinig ng "donation" pero merong ROI. At pwede wag nyong sisihin si Duterte dahil bago nya pa mapansin ang KAPA eh nasa watchlist na talaga sila ng SEC. Nakakalungkot lang na marami pa din sa atin ang blinded by this kind of scheme. In the long run, magkakaron yan ng bad effect sa tao kasi magiging tamad na sila magtrabaho since alam nila na kikita sila kahit ndi sila mag work at dahil dyan magkakaron din ng epekto sa ekonomiya ng Pilipinas.

Haha sa KAPA lang ako nakarinig ng donasyon na may ROI ibang klase talaga mapangloko ang pastor na yan, Si Quiboloy tumatanggap ng donasyon pero walang ROI pero pareho lang yung dalawa niloloko ang mga pilipino son of God daw. Angry

Ang tawag yata nila dun sa income ay blessing. Dahil nga nag donate ka (Invest) may blessing (profits/income) kang matatanggap. Pag sobrang laki ng kita magtaka na dapat sila kung saan kinukuha yung income. Ksi kung legit yan, aba wag na tayo mag trabaho, ibenta na natin ang mga gamit natin at mag donate na din at mag antay ng blessing. Naalala ko sceme na to yung kay Mavrodi, Help tsaka get Help.

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Quote from: Bes19 on June 19, 2019, 11:48:49 AM

Okay marami syang natutulungan but the fact na may nilalabag silang batas ndi yun okay. Saka ang ayaw ko sa KAPA na yan ginagamit ang ministry for their own sake. Kelan ka pa nakarinig ng "donation" pero merong ROI. At pwede wag nyong sisihin si Duterte dahil bago nya pa mapansin ang KAPA eh nasa watchlist na talaga sila ng SEC. Nakakalungkot lang na marami pa din sa atin ang blinded by this kind of scheme. In the long run, magkakaron yan ng bad effect sa tao kasi magiging tamad na sila magtrabaho since alam nila na kikita sila kahit ndi sila mag work at dahil dyan magkakaron din ng epekto sa ekonomiya ng Pilipinas.

Haha sa KAPA lang ako nakarinig ng donasyon na may ROI ibang klase talaga mapangloko ang pastor na yan, Si Quiboloy tumatanggap ng donasyon pero walang ROI pero pareho lang yung dalawa niloloko ang mga pilipino son of God daw. Angry

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on June 20, 2019, 01:54:15 PM

Quote from: zacxavier on June 18, 2019, 07:50:34 PM

Technically hindi sila ilegal, hindi naman sila Index fund na kung saan nag-gagarantiya ng eksaktong tubo mula sa pera mo, donation naman iyon at choice na ng tao kung mag dodonate sila o hindi.

Substance over form tayo dito. Hindi porke iniba lang ang term eh sasabihin na natin legal sila. Malinaw naman na may garantiya silang offer kada-buwan sa mga bawat magbibigay ng pera.

They are not stock corporation which according to the SEC are not allowed to solicit investments.

"The public is hereby informed that KAPA COMMUNITY MINISTRY
INTERNATIONAL, INC., is registered with the Commission as a non-stock
corporation under SEC Registration No. CN 201707724........

" Based on the records of the
Commission, it is not authorized to solicit investment which require a secondary
license as provided under Sec. 8.1 of the Securities Regulation Code (SRC)......

https://support.coins.ph/hc/en-us/articles/360000166901-What-is-the-latest-SEC-advisory-on-Kapa-Community-Ministry-International-INC-

That's part of the of the whole announcement coming from the SEC I guess which says they are not allowed to solicit investment, although the term is different but obviously it's a clear investment as it promise to have a return of 30% per month.

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Quote from: zacxavier on June 18, 2019, 07:50:34 PM

Technically hindi sila ilegal, hindi naman sila Index fund na kung saan nag-gagarantiya ng eksaktong tubo mula sa pera mo, donation naman iyon at choice na ng tao kung mag dodonate sila o hindi.

Substance over form tayo dito. Hindi porke iniba lang ang term eh sasabihin na natin legal sila. Malinaw naman na may garantiya silang offer kada-buwan sa mga bawat magbibigay ng pera.

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Okay marami syang natutulungan but the fact na may nilalabag silang batas ndi yun okay. Saka ang ayaw ko sa KAPA na yan ginagamit ang ministry for their own sake. Kelan ka pa nakarinig ng "donation" pero merong ROI. At pwede wag nyong sisihin si Duterte dahil bago nya pa mapansin ang KAPA eh nasa watchlist na talaga sila ng SEC. Nakakalungkot lang na marami pa din sa atin ang blinded by this kind of scheme. In the long run, magkakaron yan ng bad effect sa tao kasi magiging tamad na sila magtrabaho since alam nila na kikita sila kahit ndi sila mag work at dahil dyan magkakaron din ng epekto sa ekonomiya ng Pilipinas.

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I hate to say this but Filipinos are being blind of what KAPA violated that's why they are keep defending it without understanding the situation. KAPA members insists that they helped poor people but there are hidden agendas about it, just like the term "donations" and be able to receive 30% interest per month and how come a religious group distribute such interests to each members without engaging other businesses. Their founder keep hiding at all times and not taking it to the highest government to clear things up and proved that KAPA is legit, not a scam. SEC was right for cracking down this such pity schemes just to encourage people to join them with such pip talk by other members who allegedly got "payout". More like it is a HYIP in my opinion or better know as "pay-in, pay-out" schemes.

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Quote from: erikoy on June 15, 2019, 02:47:32 AM

Really sad because the president does not think on how the Filipino could take back their money first before he order shuts down. Sana binigyan nya ng abiso ng mg meet ng deadline ang kapa before it will br closes para wala ng mag pay in at saka pay out na lng para at least kakaunti na lng ang mascam di gaya ngayon na lahat ng pera ay mawawala na lng dahil sa kanyang close order for kapa. Kaya ito tuloy damay2x ang ibang scam.investment scheme.

Ganyan talaga, they risked their money without further researching. Hindi ako against sa mga namuhunan sa KAPA or pro kay Duterte. Kung hindi scam ang Kapa, they should reimburse all the money to the people.

This is the problem of our current era. Many Filipinos are still ignorant (sorry for the term, but that is the right one to define people without profound knowledge). We are still ignorance in aspect that scam is all around us. Why we are still behind? Because of education. We need to be educated, well-trained and have seminars on how do we need to spend our money. We have to cope up this things so that we will never be deceived by these shit scammers.

We are persuaded by flowering words, but we never look for the consequences that we might confront. I feel pity for the investors who lend their arms in Kapa. They should also be compensated.

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Quote from: anume123 on June 18, 2019, 05:14:03 AM

Mali ang pag pasok sa Kapa investment pero naaawa din ako sa mga taong bagohan pa lang sa Kapa upang mag invest at hindi pa lang bawi ang kanilang ginamit na pundo malaking pero ang nawala sakanila dahil ipapasara na ito.

nakakawa talaga lahat ng mga taong nalugi sa pag-iinvest sa kapa pero wala rin tayong magagawa about diyan.

Hindi sa sinisisi ko sila pero sila rin naman ang may kasalanan diyan kaya sila nalugi dahil dapat umpisa pa lang hindi na sila nag invest na kahit anong halaga ng kanilang pera.

Ngayon problemado ang mga nagsanla ng kanilang mga ari arian o mga gamit para lang makapag-invest dito.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on June 16, 2019, 03:56:52 AM

Quote from: zacxavier on June 11, 2019, 10:11:34 AM

Ang dami naman contradiction sa statement mo. May ideya ka ng isa itong ponzi scheme pero ayaw mo pa din ipasara dahil wala pa nagrereklamo? Kung sino man ang magsasabing huwag ipasara ang isang ilegal na gawain dahil kumikita sila ay isang sakim at isang impokrito. Pasensya na din Wink

Technically hindi sila ilegal, hindi naman sila Index fund na kung saan nag-gagarantiya ng eksaktong tubo mula sa pera mo, donation naman iyon at choice na ng tao kung mag dodonate sila o hindi. Hindi ako politically inclined na tao pero sa nangyaring pagpapasara ng Pangulo sa Kapa ay nakabuti pa iyon sa Kapa CEO na si Joel Apolinario na kung saan nakakuha ng simpatya sa milyon nitong miyembro, publicity kumbaga. Konti nalang sana at hindi na iyon makakasustain, magsasara, sayang, baka tuloy makakuha pa si Apolinario ng posisyon sa gobyerno dahil sa mga pangyayari.

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Lagi kong napapanuod sa t.v itong KAPA investment scam kawawa ang mga tao doon dahil ito lang ang pinagkaka kitaan ng maraming taong nag invest dito. Pero para saakin lang dapat lang itong alisin upang hindi tayo umasa sa madaling paraan na pag kita ng malaking pera ng walang ginagawa na mag huhulog ka lang ng pera at buwan buwan ka kikita ng 30% sa puhunan mo. Matutunan din natin mag hirap upang kumita ng pera. Suggestion ko lang ay dapat ibalik ang pera ng mga taong unang nag invest dito sa Kapa dahilan ng mabawing pundo na kanilang pinasok dito at walang pang anumalyang kinikita.

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Mali ang pag pasok sa Kapa investment pero naaawa din ako sa mga taong bagohan pa lang sa Kapa upang mag invest at hindi pa lang bawi ang kanilang ginamit na pundo malaking pero ang nawala sakanila dahil ipapasara na ito.

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Quote from: Dreamchaser21 on June 17, 2019, 08:52:03 AM

Quote from: costanos02 on June 16, 2019, 09:01:35 PM

Kasali ang cryptocurrency sa initially frozen.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/697874/p100-m-kapa-ministry-assets-secured-upon-court-order-sec/story/?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook

They have to kase nga pagaari paren sya ng KAPA, and for sure maraming assets pa ang naka freeze. Nakakaalarma talaga ang mga nangyayari, ang masaklap pa dito super daming pinoy ang naloko at marami ngayon ang nagagalit sa gobyerno kase binaban nila. Buti nalang talaga hinde ako napainvest dito kung hinde, isa ako sa mga umiiyak ng sobra ngayon.

True, kawawa nga iyon mga taga ibang bansa na nagpapakahirap sila doon tapos naiinvest pa nila sa mga manloloko. Sobrang dami talaga naapektuhan ng scam na ito, nagulat na nga lang ako kasi pati pala iyin iba ko kawork ay nakapaginvest doon.

Sabi ko nga sakanila dapat sa crypto nalang sila naginvest kasi from time to time ngayon ay tumataas ang valur ng bitcoin. Hopefully magcontinue ang increasing trend ng bitcoin ngayon.

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Quote from: costanos02 on June 16, 2019, 09:01:35 PM

Kasali ang cryptocurrency sa initially frozen.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/697874/p100-m-kapa-ministry-assets-secured-upon-court-order-sec/story/?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook

They have to kase nga pagaari paren sya ng KAPA, and for sure maraming assets pa ang naka freeze. Nakakaalarma talaga ang mga nangyayari, ang masaklap pa dito super daming pinoy ang naloko at marami ngayon ang nagagalit sa gobyerno kase binaban nila. Buti nalang talaga hinde ako napainvest dito kung hinde, isa ako sa mga umiiyak ng sobra ngayon.

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Quote from: Bitcoinjheta on June 17, 2019, 04:57:00 AM

Quote from: Remainder on June 16, 2019, 09:35:32 PM

Quote from: costanos02 on June 16, 2019, 09:01:35 PM

Kasali ang cryptocurrency sa initially frozen.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/697874/p100-m-kapa-ministry-assets-secured-upon-court-order-sec/story/?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook

They must have converted some of the collected money into cryptocurrency.
In order for the government to freeze their crypto account, it should be stored in an regulated exchange, probably they have some bitcoins in coins.ph.

Yes, possible coins.ph is one of the exchanger having used by the Kapa Ministry which are being freeze by Philippine government. With this massive investment scam i think there have a lot of account coins which was not caught and it holds by other members in kapa used to left and right earnings.

There has been rumor that they are doing Bitcoin trading in order to income, so yeah ! There is a greater possibility that they have funds in their bitcoin wallets or exchanges. How about we dig deeper to it ? Find that wallet address and maybe we'll find something interesting, just my two cents. Cheesy

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Quote from: Remainder on June 16, 2019, 09:35:32 PM

Quote from: costanos02 on June 16, 2019, 09:01:35 PM

Kasali ang cryptocurrency sa initially frozen.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/697874/p100-m-kapa-ministry-assets-secured-upon-court-order-sec/story/?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook

They must have converted some of the collected money into cryptocurrency.
In order for the government to freeze their crypto account, it should be stored in an regulated exchange, probably they have some bitcoins in coins.ph.

Yes, possible coins.ph is one of the exchanger having used by the Kapa Ministry which are being freeze by Philippine government. With this massive investment scam i think there have a lot of account coins which was not caught and it holds by other members in kapa used to left and right earnings.

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Quote from: ice18 on June 16, 2019, 07:03:33 AM

Bakit kaya hanggang ngayon marami pa rin ang sumasali sa mga ganitong investment scheme madali lang naman malaman kung scam yan bsta walang product walang business na ginagwa tapos mag iinvest ka, san kuha yung tubo mo? sa mga bagong investor den? e d networking narin ang labas niyan kahit pa ang nagpasimuno ay religious leaders na ginagamit na ginagamit pa ang diyos para makalikom ng maraming pera naku naman, parang mafeature ata to ngayong linggo sa #KMJS panoorin nalang natin mukhang interesting to.

wala na kasing pinipili ngayon ang scam kahit ano pa status nila kahit na religious personality pa yan, kaya mamulat na din sana ang tao na ang crypto ay walang pinagkaiba sa scam sa labas dahil kinakasangkapan lang nila ito.

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At ngayun pinapakalat pa ng ibang members sa tagum city(where investment schemes appeared like mushrooms) that pres. duterte actually told KAPA founder na they are allowed to continue then released a statement stating otherwise few hours later para ipakita na sinungaling daw si KAPA founder. That what happened daw is just a tactic of pres. duterte para maniwala ang mga members na sinungaling si founder.

Anyway its sad lang kung gaano nabulag sa malaking pera ang mga kababayan natin. My friends sa church "donated to kapa". I warned them about it and now na nangyayari natong mga events na to they kept on telling me na "anu masaya kana? papasara na daw kapa. lintek na duterte yan. di ko na yan iboboto mga kasamahan niyan next election." and that they will vote for another mayor.

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Quote from: costanos02 on June 16, 2019, 09:01:35 PM

Kasali ang cryptocurrency sa initially frozen.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/697874/p100-m-kapa-ministry-assets-secured-upon-court-order-sec/story/?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook

They must have converted some of the collected money into cryptocurrency.
In order for the government to freeze their crypto account, it should be stored in an regulated exchange, probably they have some bitcoins in coins.ph.

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Kasali ang cryptocurrency sa initially frozen.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/697874/p100-m-kapa-ministry-assets-secured-upon-court-order-sec/story/?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on June 09, 2019, 06:54:30 AM

Pinoy talaga hindi na nadala sana inisip man lang nila kung bakit ganyan kalaki yung kita in just a month surely it is a HYIP type. Swerte lang yung mga nauuna sa ganyan kasi paluwagan style yan eh. Hoping na yung mga tao ay hindi dapat nasisilaw sa ganyan kc sila rin ang lugi kung sila nalang sana nagpatakbo ng pera nila sa sariling pagod I guess mas worth it pa yun kesa hindi mo hawak pera mo.

Most of this schemes are under the hat at kung minsan patago kaya hoping na yung PNP, NBI and other agencies will go deeper to investigate such cases mostly sa FB messenger mga tirada niyan or P2P talaga.

Matunon ito ngayon sa balita! Naisip ko nga din na magpost nito dito. Gayunpaman, hindi pa talaga tayo lubusang hubog sa mga pamumuhunan. Marami pa din sa ating mga kababayan ang mabilis humanga sa mga ganitong hyip dala ng dila. Karamihan satin kasi makasabay na lang sa agos, di iniisip kung ano ba talaga ang pinapasok. Kapag naiscam, iiyak. Hays, magbitcoin na lang kayo. Kung naginvest kayo ng 20k nung Feb 60K na malamang ngayon.

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