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dottat

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Quote from: Max3k on December 07, 2017, 03:07:40 PM

Quote from: dottat on December 07, 2017, 02:53:25 PM

Most of these pools really don't know what your miner's true hash rate is. It can only guess the hash rate by looking at the number of submitted shares vs your difficulty. The actual hash rate of your rig doesn't mean squat if its not making valid shares.

That's not a fact, if you have such problems, you need to watch the total received rate "Hashrate" in %, and already from this percentage the number received of coins (Amount). If you get exactly what is stated on the website, you are losing half of their income, in his case it is 60%. I have sometimes a similar situation occurs, we have to restart the client (miner.exe) only after this, the stats on the pool begins to converge. I don't know why this happens, but it is almost always only one algorithm (lyra2v2).

That may be truer on the lower hash rate hardware. I'm only telling you what it looks like from larger asic based miners (x11, script for me). Sometimes it reports high, sometimes low... and it's based off the shares the site is seeing. Nicehash actually had a page dedicated to explaining this. Here's where someone posted it to reddit... last couple paragraphs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NiceHash/comments/6nkqb7/why_the_hashrate_on_the_website_is_different_from/

Max3k

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Quote from: dottat on December 07, 2017, 02:53:25 PM

Most of these pools really don't know what your miner's true hash rate is. It can only guess the hash rate by looking at the number of submitted shares vs your difficulty. The actual hash rate of your rig doesn't mean squat if its not making valid shares.

That's not a fact, if you have such problems, you need to watch the total received rate "Hashrate" in %, and already from this percentage the number received of coins (Amount). If you get exactly what is stated on the website, you are losing half of their income, in his case it is 60%. I have sometimes a similar situation occurs, we have to restart the client (miner.exe) only after this, the stats on the pool begins to converge. I don't know why this happens, but it is almost always only one algorithm (lyra2v2).

dottat

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Quote from: CrownRoyal79 on December 07, 2017, 02:58:34 PM

Quote from: dottat on December 07, 2017, 02:53:25 PM

Quote from: CrownRoyal79 on December 07, 2017, 02:45:34 PM

Quote from: Spiffy_1 on December 07, 2017, 02:21:36 PM

Wow.. Look at all the mouthly little yips with under 50 posts demanding answers. I can clearly see why you were using nicehash. You have no social interaction skills or common sense. Offer suggestions and realize that someone could be in a different timezone on the other side of the world. Sleep comes to us all, unforseen issues come to us all. If you don't like things leave. If you want to give things a chance, stay and shut up and observe. I've been with this pool for years and as hashrate grew suddenly we had some hickups. This hasn't changed but over time he has expanded to make things smoother. Who sees 4700 BTC disappear suddenly? As for comments mining in the dark? What do you think nicehash was doing? Your hashrate is calculated by the shares you send not your overall hashrate on your side. Completely different system vs nicehash which is PPLS against PPLNS which is zpool. If you don't know what those are I suggest either reading up on it or sit down and enjoy the ride.

You assume an awful lot... I've never used NiceHash, not even once. I switched a couple of my rigs from equihash to lyra2v2. I've tried a couple of different pools in the past 2 days. I like that this pool converts to BTC automatically. However, I would love to know why THIS POOL reports my hashrate at roughly 40% of what my miner reports while a couple other pools report it almost dead-on with what my miner reports. If it's just a reporting problem on the pool side and I'm being paid fairly, then I couldn't care less what gets reported and will keep mining here. But if there is some type of problem and I'm only getting credited for 40% of my hashes then of course I will mine elsewhere.

And since you have more than 50 posts, I'm sure that makes you a bonafide expert on this topic... so please do us all a favor and provide the answer!

Most of these pools really don't know what your miner's true hash rate is. It can only guess the hash rate by looking at the number of submitted shares vs your difficulty. The actual hash rate of your rig doesn't mean squat if its not making valid shares.

100% valid shares according to the Zpool. Suprnova reports hashrate accurately - the reported rate bounces above and below what my miner reports. Zpool consistently shows the hashrate bouncing above and below 40%. All I really care about is whether I'm being compensated fairly.

From past earnings the posted 24 hr avg in mBtc X's the avg hash of two of my d3's (30,000) equalled earnings. This new influx of miners here has changed a number of variables like it has elsewhere and some of the previous stable reporting indicators are off. Earnings though still seem to be roughly the same perhaps a little lower due to the increased difficulty because of the higher pool hash rate.

Hopefully the dust settles and folks adjust to the new normal soon. I would imagine this wasn't anything anyone at this pool or any other pool could have dreamed happening so it's catching everyone off guard. Imagine the idled hardware at nicehash right now.

CrownRoyal79

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Quote from: dottat on December 07, 2017, 02:53:25 PM

Quote from: CrownRoyal79 on December 07, 2017, 02:45:34 PM

Quote from: Spiffy_1 on December 07, 2017, 02:21:36 PM

Wow.. Look at all the mouthly little yips with under 50 posts demanding answers. I can clearly see why you were using nicehash. You have no social interaction skills or common sense. Offer suggestions and realize that someone could be in a different timezone on the other side of the world. Sleep comes to us all, unforseen issues come to us all. If you don't like things leave. If you want to give things a chance, stay and shut up and observe. I've been with this pool for years and as hashrate grew suddenly we had some hickups. This hasn't changed but over time he has expanded to make things smoother. Who sees 4700 BTC disappear suddenly? As for comments mining in the dark? What do you think nicehash was doing? Your hashrate is calculated by the shares you send not your overall hashrate on your side. Completely different system vs nicehash which is PPLS against PPLNS which is zpool. If you don't know what those are I suggest either reading up on it or sit down and enjoy the ride.

You assume an awful lot... I've never used NiceHash, not even once. I switched a couple of my rigs from equihash to lyra2v2. I've tried a couple of different pools in the past 2 days. I like that this pool converts to BTC automatically. However, I would love to know why THIS POOL reports my hashrate at roughly 40% of what my miner reports while a couple other pools report it almost dead-on with what my miner reports. If it's just a reporting problem on the pool side and I'm being paid fairly, then I couldn't care less what gets reported and will keep mining here. But if there is some type of problem and I'm only getting credited for 40% of my hashes then of course I will mine elsewhere.

And since you have more than 50 posts, I'm sure that makes you a bonafide expert on this topic... so please do us all a favor and provide the answer!

Most of these pools really don't know what your miner's true hash rate is. It can only guess the hash rate by looking at the number of submitted shares vs your difficulty. The actual hash rate of your rig doesn't mean squat if its not making valid shares.

100% valid shares according to the Zpool. Suprnova reports hashrate accurately - the reported rate bounces above and below what my miner reports. Zpool consistently shows the hashrate bouncing above and below 40%. All I really care about is whether I'm being compensated fairly.

dottat

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Quote from: CrownRoyal79 on December 07, 2017, 02:45:34 PM

Quote from: Spiffy_1 on December 07, 2017, 02:21:36 PM

Wow.. Look at all the mouthly little yips with under 50 posts demanding answers. I can clearly see why you were using nicehash. You have no social interaction skills or common sense. Offer suggestions and realize that someone could be in a different timezone on the other side of the world. Sleep comes to us all, unforseen issues come to us all. If you don't like things leave. If you want to give things a chance, stay and shut up and observe. I've been with this pool for years and as hashrate grew suddenly we had some hickups. This hasn't changed but over time he has expanded to make things smoother. Who sees 4700 BTC disappear suddenly? As for comments mining in the dark? What do you think nicehash was doing? Your hashrate is calculated by the shares you send not your overall hashrate on your side. Completely different system vs nicehash which is PPLS against PPLNS which is zpool. If you don't know what those are I suggest either reading up on it or sit down and enjoy the ride.

You assume an awful lot... I've never used NiceHash, not even once. I switched a couple of my rigs from equihash to lyra2v2. I've tried a couple of different pools in the past 2 days. I like that this pool converts to BTC automatically. However, I would love to know why THIS POOL reports my hashrate at roughly 40% of what my miner reports while a couple other pools report it almost dead-on with what my miner reports. If it's just a reporting problem on the pool side and I'm being paid fairly, then I couldn't care less what gets reported and will keep mining here. But if there is some type of problem and I'm only getting credited for 40% of my hashes then of course I will mine elsewhere.

And since you have more than 50 posts, I'm sure that makes you a bonafide expert on this topic... so please do us all a favor and provide the answer!

Most of these pools really don't know what your miner's true hash rate is. It can only guess the hash rate by looking at the number of submitted shares vs your difficulty. The actual hash rate of your rig doesn't mean squat if its not making valid shares.

CrownRoyal79

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Quote from: Spiffy_1 on December 07, 2017, 02:21:36 PM

Wow.. Look at all the mouthly little yips with under 50 posts demanding answers. I can clearly see why you were using nicehash. You have no social interaction skills or common sense. Offer suggestions and realize that someone could be in a different timezone on the other side of the world. Sleep comes to us all, unforseen issues come to us all. If you don't like things leave. If you want to give things a chance, stay and shut up and observe. I've been with this pool for years and as hashrate grew suddenly we had some hickups. This hasn't changed but over time he has expanded to make things smoother. Who sees 4700 BTC disappear suddenly? As for comments mining in the dark? What do you think nicehash was doing? Your hashrate is calculated by the shares you send not your overall hashrate on your side. Completely different system vs nicehash which is PPLS against PPLNS which is zpool. If you don't know what those are I suggest either reading up on it or sit down and enjoy the ride.

You assume an awful lot... I've never used NiceHash, not even once. I switched a couple of my rigs from equihash to lyra2v2. I've tried a couple of different pools in the past 2 days. I like that this pool converts to BTC automatically. However, I would love to know why THIS POOL reports my hashrate at roughly 40% of what my miner reports while a couple other pools report it almost dead-on with what my miner reports. If it's just a reporting problem on the pool side and I'm being paid fairly, then I couldn't care less what gets reported and will keep mining here. But if there is some type of problem and I'm only getting credited for 40% of my hashes then of course I will mine elsewhere.

And since you have more than 50 posts, I'm sure that makes you a bonafide expert on this topic... so please do us all a favor and provide the answer!

Spiffy_1

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Quote from: Jaerin on December 07, 2017, 02:13:14 PM

I wanted to let you know that I submitted a bug fix for the 80% value issue that I reported months back. This is likely the cause of the low payment for coins mined.

https://github.com/tpruvot/yiimp/pull/192

Regardless if you think that this is a problem or not the code fix simply prevents the widely used AverageIncrement function from returning results that are 80% of the actual value when a zero is passed to it.

I am not attempting to rehash the argument again, simply pointing out a bug in the code.

Please consider implementing this on the pool. It will likely return it to being the top paying pool especially considering Nicehash is likely not to return in the near future.

Nice catch Jaerin. Always nice to see someone attempting to improve things.

Spiffy_1

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Wow.. Look at all the mouthly little yips with under 50 posts demanding answers. I can clearly see why you were using nicehash. You have no social interaction skills or common sense. Offer suggestions and realize that someone could be in a different timezone on the other side of the world. Sleep comes to us all, unforseen issues come to us all. If you don't like things leave. If you want to give things a chance, stay and shut up and observe. I've been with this pool for years and as hashrate grew suddenly we had some hickups. This hasn't changed but over time he has expanded to make things smoother. Who sees 4700 BTC disappear suddenly? As for comments mining in the dark? What do you think nicehash was doing? Your hashrate is calculated by the shares you send not your overall hashrate on your side. Completely different system vs nicehash which is PPLS against PPLNS which is zpool. If you don't know what those are I suggest either reading up on it or sit down and enjoy the ride.

MrCranky

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Hi,

New to ZPool, I have been running Nemosminer all afternoon on a GTX 1080 ti and have so far only managed to earn 0.00009777 BTC it would appear that they have stayed the same, if not gone backwards a little over the past few hours. It was over 0.0001000 earlier. What would the reason for this be?

Jaerin

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I wanted to let you know that I submitted a bug fix for the 80% value issue that I reported months back. This is likely the cause of the low payment for coins mined.

https://github.com/tpruvot/yiimp/pull/192

Regardless if you think that this is a problem or not the code fix simply prevents the widely used AverageIncrement function from returning results that are 80% of the actual value when a zero is passed to it.

I am not attempting to rehash the argument again, simply pointing out a bug in the code.

Please consider implementing this on the pool. It will likely return it to being the top paying pool especially considering Nicehash is likely not to return in the near future.

CrownRoyal79

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Quote from: guytechie on December 07, 2017, 11:56:59 AM

Something wrong with the Neoscrypt stratum or the way the site is reporting hashrate.

I have 2 rigs - one is at 2.57 MH/s and the other is at 4.55 MH/s. On the pool site, it says I'm at 886 kh/s (sometimes hitting 1.1 MH/s), and the other is 916 kh/s (sometimes hitting 1.4 MH/s)

Does the Neoscrypt stratum need to be restarted?

Join the club! Lyra2v2, X11, and Neoscrypt users all with the same problem -- hashrates being reported VERY low.

GTANAdam

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Quote from: crackfoo on December 07, 2017, 08:30:48 AM

Quote from: CaHek83 on December 07, 2017, 08:06:43 AM

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guytechie

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Something wrong with the Neoscrypt stratum or the way the site is reporting hashrate.

I have 2 rigs - one is at 2.57 MH/s and the other is at 4.55 MH/s. On the pool site, it says I'm at 886 kh/s (sometimes hitting 1.1 MH/s), and the other is 916 kh/s (sometimes hitting 1.4 MH/s)

Does the Neoscrypt stratum need to be restarted?

CrownRoyal79

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Quote from: STSMiner on December 07, 2017, 10:36:44 AM

Change the difficulty setting from auto to manual in the password field. Play with this setting to get between 5 - 15 shares per minute.

example here > https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25688111

-p c=BTC,d=0.1 or -p c=BTC,d=36

-i << this sets the Intensity for the GPU(s) (see link above)

-t << this sets the number of threads for the CPU eg -t 4 will use 4 cores (threads) of an 8 core CPU, this stops the PC from being slow when doing things on it, eg, mouse delays etc.
(Mining with your CPU)

I've already tried changing to static diff -- still reporting less than half of the hashrate. I tried another pool, issues don't exist. Hopefully it's temporary.

Justwondering

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Okay newbie from nicehash , I have downloaded and install Awesominer and setup zpool with my bitcoin address.

But why is Zpool having me mine one of the worse coins using my AMD cards Decred ??!?!?

But on my other system running Nvidia , Zpool and Awesominer appear to be mining a good coin Neoscrypt ?!?

Help please , do I need to use a different program to access Zpool for AMD cards ?

Help and advice please.

STSMiner

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Change the difficulty setting from auto to manual in the password field. Play with this setting to get between 5 - 15 shares per minute.

example here > https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25688111

-p c=BTC,d=0.1 or -p c=BTC,d=36

-i << this sets the Intensity for the GPU(s) (see link above)

-t << this sets the number of threads for the CPU eg -t 4 will use 4 cores (threads) of an 8 core CPU, this stops the PC from being slow when doing things on it, eg, mouse delays etc.
(Mining with your CPU)

CrownRoyal79

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Quote from: STSMiner on December 07, 2017, 09:56:19 AM

Yes, the influx of new miners seems to have done this in the last 24 hours, it's got to play catchup, just be patient, I've seen this before, but not on this scale.

But if the pool is only showing 40% of my hashrate does that mean I'm only getting paid for 40% of my work?

STSMiner

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Yes, the influx of new miners seems to have done this in the last 24 hours, it's got to play catchup, just be patient, I've seen this before, but not on this scale.

sundownz

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Pool is simply over-loaded.

My graphs look terrible but they have been catching up in a very jerky fashion (e.g. it processes eventually).

For example... I am doing mostly Neoscrypt but at least an hour and a half of blocks are still "NEW" status so don't show on my graphs yet.

I imagine ZPOOL will upgrade a bit and some miners will spread to other pools as well to ease the load then it'll catch up.

CrownRoyal79

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Quote from: crackfoo on December 06, 2017, 09:40:25 AM

Quote from: BitcoinGeekBoy on December 06, 2017, 09:37:07 AM

http://zpool.ca/?address=1AT1PzoNGecJUDZc68x7w89TJwVbDeYwhU

My X11 hash rate on the pool is showing 50-75% of what is should be for the last few hours?

My local D3 console shows 17GHs. I rebooted but still the same.

Is there any issue with the X11 pool?

I'm working on trimming down the x11 coins to accommodate the influx if users. Should have it stabilized soon.

I'm having similar issues with the lyra2v2 pool. The pool is reporting a hashrate of 40-50% of what my rigs are doing. I switched from Vardiff to static diff and same issue. It's been like this all night. What is happening?

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