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sr. member
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Can anyone explain what happened here. It appears my balance dropped without a payout.

your balance is green (confirmed and cleared),
blue is estimated balance, actually it's nothing until it becomes real one.
if you ask why estimated balance gone down -
because market prices aren't constant, orphan blocks happen, forks and reorgs, etc...

thats right. market prices effect the estimate. Unless it's a strong market, you'll see that estimate fluctuate especially when I'm selling my bags.

I was actually thinking that. This is why I don't like to mine coins which have long block times.

legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1126
I've disabled the yobit exchange for now since they pay shit for BTC tx fee's and now taking more than 24hours to confirm. Still waiting on 4 tx's. Coins that are found only on yobit will show no profitability.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1126
Can anyone explain what happened here. It appears my balance dropped without a payout.

your balance is green (confirmed and cleared),
blue is estimated balance, actually it's nothing until it becomes real one.
if you ask why estimated balance gone down -
because market prices aren't constant, orphan blocks happen, forks and reorgs, etc...

thats right. market prices effect the estimate. Unless it's a strong market, you'll see that estimate fluctuate especially when I'm selling my bags.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251
Can anyone explain what happened here. It appears my balance dropped without a payout.


legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
Thanks JK.

re, workers. I'm still a bit miffed why this happens to some miners. I've yet to see any missing or ghost miners hanging around on my wallet address. That table is really a simple query pulling all the entries from the workers db that match the ID for your wallet. And right now, the oldest worker in the db is from GMT: Mon, 01 May 2017 09:08:42 GMT

if it makes any difference;  I dont think its the miner app cause it did it with ccminer 1.7, 1.8 and even alexis78 just the other day.   It's not a super imperative thing, but my friend who has multiple GH of machines;  has trouble ID'ing which one went offline sometimes.  He split the machines up into different accounts just so that if one drops, he can more easily jump on it.... kinda sucks though because it adds to the TX bulk and associated fees.   Ill give him the heads up that you've been looking at it though.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1126
Thanks JK.

re, workers. I'm still a bit miffed why this happens to some miners. I've yet to see any missing or ghost miners hanging around on my wallet address. That table is really a simple query pulling all the entries from the workers db that match the ID for your wallet. And right now, the oldest worker in the db is from GMT: Mon, 01 May 2017 09:08:42 GMT
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
do em as the pool reads em.

mBTC/MH/day, per GH for sha256 & blake algos, kSol. for equihash (taken from top right webpage pane)

so if you make 300 sol;  you are .3ksol  so 0.3...

Here's the names added next to the normalizations for my 1070 in my gaming PC:

GTX 1070 FTW DT 8G


x17=7.7Mh
nist5=41.9Mh
x11evo=11.8Mh
sib=1.7Mh
x13=10.3Mh
x14=9.6Mh
x15=8.2Mh
x11=12.1Mh
qubit=18.5Mh
lyra2v2=37.2Mh
blakecoin=4.1Mh
blake2s=1.7Gh
neoscrypt=0.922Mh
decred=2.2Gh
skein=400.0Mh
lbry=270.0Mh
c11=12.74Mh
groestl=37.1Mh
quark=18.4Mh
keccak=550.0Mh
myr-gr=55.9Mh

When doing cpu based coins, I always did it the same so you get numbers like 0.0023 and 0.00087.  As long as they are relative to each other (in this case by GH/sec or MH/sec... then you are good to go.  

If you normalizes blake as Mh/s... you would end up with:
blake2s=17000.0;  which is totally not correct since the pool calcs it via GH =)

*edit* in my sig links, you can also find step by step instructions on how to find the actual normalization numbers (hashrates) of each algo on your own card/miner.

Glad to help sir.
sr. member
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and I found where they were referencing on the pool. I had an old table saying we did the normalizations when we actually don't.

http://www.zpool.ca/site/multialgo

Yes, I saw that table and that is why I did not have any normalizations in there at first.

Thanks again for everyones help
sr. member
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@JaredKaragen Thank you.

I actually didn't see your code until now, which i'm totally glad I did because its going to open up my world! I read through your posts and I was trying to understand the normalization and I still have one question. Do I put them all in MH/s or do I put them in the unit which is multiplied by the profit factor? for example should I put the blake algos in GH/s?


Code:
SET PASS=RIG02,c=BTC,skein=4500,blake2s=35,nist5=423,c11=146,lyra2v2=330,stats

It would be really nice if it passed a var when it disconnected you, it could tell you the which algo is the most prof

Thanks again.
legendary
Activity: 1848
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My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
There's a new addition to my miner tools.

Put it together for a member here;  whom of course;  never came through with the reward.... I think because he wanted it to have malware like properties (able to launch as a service without any admin rights on any machines)....  Not something I'll do for people....   but I did manage to easily accomplish what he originally wanted to happen... sooooo....

Here it is advertised for everyone to use freely.  I'm not expecting anything but it to be used =)

New silent miner launch via batch.  You can launch your batch file silently (no userland windows) and the batch in turn launches the miner app in the background outside of the userland as well.  Good for silent background instances.

Relies on a one lined .vbs file, which is mind numbingly simple.


It's in the batch link in my sig.  Enjoy guys =)
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1126

It does not appear to be switching.

Also, is there a formula for calculating the profitability numbers

I see scrypt is reference at 1. XXX below , is it a ratio of what my actual scrypt hash is to skein?


Code:

SET PASS=RIG02,c=BTC,skein=XXX,blake2s,nist5,c11,lyra2v2,stats
:start
ECHO multi-algo Switch....
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a skein -i 26 -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a blake2s -i 31 -o stratum+tcp://blake2s.mine.zpool.ca:5766 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a nist5 -i 20 -o stratum+tcp://nist5.mine.zpool.ca:3833 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a c11 -i 21 -o stratum+tcp://c11.mine.zpool.ca:3573 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a lyra2v2 -i 21 -o stratum+tcp://lyra2v2.mine.zpool.ca:4533 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
GOTO start


Its fun seeing my code snippetts everywhere XD

your batch has no normalization in it whatsoever;  you have to do it for all algos that you have in your batch, not just one as a reference;  as crackfoo explained, poolside they are all treated as one;  which is smart as there is a HUGE difference between nvidia and AMD miner hashrates.... it caused quite a bit of confusion for people in the past.

Check the link in my sig for the batch;  there's a link to the original batch post as well in that post...  In those should be a link to some normalization values I have run myself  and lots of good info;  Just pick a normalization that's close to the caliber of your card you are using.  For instance if you have a 970, you could use my 960 or 980 numbers, not the 1070 numbers... etc.

once all of the algos have an "equals" value assigned to them, you will see the profit switching more where it should be.

Thinking about it now;  I should double check that I have at least some sort of normalization forced in my batch posted presently;  which I think is true... gonna double check just to be sure =)  I think I posted it before the change on poolside to 1 happened.  I checked, its good.  Notes at bottom of batch as to what normalization it has.

and I found where they were referencing on the pool. I had an old table saying we did the normalizations when we actually don't.

http://www.zpool.ca/site/multialgo
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?

It does not appear to be switching.

Also, is there a formula for calculating the profitability numbers

I see scrypt is reference at 1. XXX below , is it a ratio of what my actual scrypt hash is to skein?


Code:

SET PASS=RIG02,c=BTC,skein=XXX,blake2s,nist5,c11,lyra2v2,stats
:start
ECHO multi-algo Switch....
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a skein -i 26 -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a blake2s -i 31 -o stratum+tcp://blake2s.mine.zpool.ca:5766 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a nist5 -i 20 -o stratum+tcp://nist5.mine.zpool.ca:3833 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a c11 -i 21 -o stratum+tcp://c11.mine.zpool.ca:3573 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a lyra2v2 -i 21 -o stratum+tcp://lyra2v2.mine.zpool.ca:4533 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
GOTO start


Its fun seeing my code snippetts everywhere XD

your batch has no normalization in it whatsoever;  you have to do it for all algos that you have in your batch, not just one as a reference;  as crackfoo explained, poolside they are all treated as one;  which is smart as there is a HUGE difference between nvidia and AMD miner hashrates.... it caused quite a bit of confusion for people in the past.

Check the link in my sig for the batch;  there's a link to the original batch post as well in that post...  In those should be a link to some normalization values I have run myself  and lots of good info;  Just pick a normalization that's close to the caliber of your card you are using.  For instance if you have a 970, you could use my 960 or 980 numbers, not the 1070 numbers... etc.  *edit* just looked, its directly in my sigs link, not 2 links deep.

once all of the algos have an "equals" value assigned to them, you will see the profit switching more where it should be.

Thinking about it now;  I should double check that I have at least some sort of normalization forced in my batch posted presently;  which I think is true... gonna double check just to be sure =)  I think I posted it before the change on poolside to 1 happened.  I checked, its good.  Notes at bottom of batch as to what normalization it has.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1126

It does not appear to be switching.

Also, is there a formula for calculating the profitability numbers

I see scrypt is reference at 1. XXX below , is it a ratio of what my actual scrypt hash is to skein?


Code:

SET PASS=RIG02,c=BTC,skein=XXX,blake2s,nist5,c11,lyra2v2,stats
:start
ECHO multi-algo Switch....
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a skein -i 26 -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a blake2s -i 31 -o stratum+tcp://blake2s.mine.zpool.ca:5766 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a nist5 -i 20 -o stratum+tcp://nist5.mine.zpool.ca:3833 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a c11 -i 21 -o stratum+tcp://c11.mine.zpool.ca:3573 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a lyra2v2 -i 21 -o stratum+tcp://lyra2v2.mine.zpool.ca:4533 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
GOTO start


Mine seem to be switching...

Yes, well I've set all the normalization to 1 for all algos. I'm not positive, but essentially, you can put in a value thats equivalent to the hash rate your rigs gets on each algo.

sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251

It does not appear to be switching.

Also, is there a formula for calculating the profitability numbers

I see scrypt is reference at 1. XXX below , is it a ratio of what my actual scrypt hash is to skein?


Code:

SET PASS=RIG02,c=BTC,skein=XXX,blake2s,nist5,c11,lyra2v2,stats
:start
ECHO multi-algo Switch....
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a skein -i 26 -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a blake2s -i 31 -o stratum+tcp://blake2s.mine.zpool.ca:5766 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a nist5 -i 20 -o stratum+tcp://nist5.mine.zpool.ca:3833 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a c11 -i 21 -o stratum+tcp://c11.mine.zpool.ca:3573 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a lyra2v2 -i 21 -o stratum+tcp://lyra2v2.mine.zpool.ca:4533 -u %ADDY% -p %PASS%
GOTO start

legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
Any chance on narrowing down why the pool no longer displays connected miner info after they have long uptimes?

http://zpool.ca/?address=1kLsGT9egk3utSKZH46ydTbKj5oMnmBoN This one shows one miner;  but the total hashrate clearely shows the extra 1.1Gh..

http://zpool.ca/?address=1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP One of my machines in SF is 24/7 uptime in a remote spot;  I never know if it goes down because I can't go reset at a whim (too far to drive)...  I only know if its online by turning the rest of this account's miners off and watching the hashrate plummet and stay at the expected value.

I don't remember this being an issue ~8 mo ago.... so yeah.  I know it's a tough one to track down.
member
Activity: 130
Merit: 11
KMD payouts are still broken:

4h ago   19.44883841   ...
10h ago   32.02063232   ...
34h ago   8.05710232   48d088f47bd8849

Is this a problem with KMD or a more general one? Should i switch back to BTC?
looks like there was a duplicated address. Fixed.

Wow, that was fast.

I've got my KMD payout:
40m ago   74.21159194   8fd53a3b242

Thank you.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1126
KMD payouts are still broken:

4h ago   19.44883841   ...
10h ago   32.02063232   ...
34h ago   8.05710232   48d088f47bd8849

Is this a problem with KMD or a more general one? Should i switch back to BTC?
looks like there was a duplicated address. Fixed.
member
Activity: 130
Merit: 11
KMD payouts are still broken:

4h ago   19.44883841   ...
10h ago   32.02063232   ...
34h ago   8.05710232   48d088f47bd8849

Is this a problem with KMD or a more general one? Should i switch back to BTC?
newbie
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Merit: 0
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1126
MAX was delisted from Bittrex so we've dropped it and the keccak algo.
I don't know if you noticed that UNIT got delisted from Bittrex and the Yobit wallet has been in permanent maintenance for the past 6 months.

ahh crap. nope.

Thanks for the heads up.
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