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Quote from: tjtonmoy on June 09, 2023, 01:23:51 PM

Speculative? Yes, to some extent. But with the constant evolution of the technology and the market, now it is hard to speculate what will happen. We still use analysis and many fundamentals to understand the market. Nothing comes out of luck or gamble in the market. For sure, you can make a fortune with luck. But in the long run, you can never become successful.
In order to speculate, we need to have proper knowledge about the market. That comes from learning and experiments. But that's a long process. For that reason, we stick to the old methods that people have come up with in the past. This is the reason why we can not get a 100% accurate results on our prediction. But as the process are somewhat similar to the new market movements, it is predictable at some extent. Learning this is crucial for any newbie trader. This will help you understand the market in depth. If the future, it will also help us to come up with our own strategy.

I think luck is very important even for a veteran but that doesn't mean that it will a good thing, that doesn't mean that it will be easy if you are unlucky or it would be possible to just lucky but with no knowledge. I think it would be both together at the same time.

I think you should be studying and learning to be a good thing and that doesn't mean that it would be a good thing in the end and I believe that we should be considering this as a combined thing. After you became that good, it is not going to be that simple to actually make a profit, because in the end you are going to lose something anyway, and that will be a trouble. So be ready and be lucky at the same time and you should be doing fine, them together is a great feeling without a doubt.

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Quote from: karabiber on May 30, 2023, 03:18:21 AM

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If the price does not move there is no way people will make money investing or trading a token if the price do not move. Volatility is good if it moves in your direction (long or short). I think the most important thing is to be able to spot the bottom and buy when the price is close to the bottom because the price will always go up from that position, it is easy to stop the bottom than the top this is very important for newbies to learn this will help then in the long term rather than FOMOing into already pumped tokens and they end up being a bagholder

If you are a new investor and you are entering the market in a period where the market has been inactive for a long time i would definitely recommend you to use your crypto basket in favor of major coins. This is because people get caught in the FOMO in the stagnant market and sink into the inflated bubble coins.

If you are planning to invest for many years, do not try to find the bottom of the price but jump on the train from a reasonable level.
It is difficult to predict the bottom in the price and do not blame yourself for this because you cannot predict the bottom even in the stable period.

New or old, the best time for you to enter the market is on bearish market on which the prices are really that way too cheap or something not that expensive for you to accumulate rather than on making yourself accumulate when the market is on peak on which you would likely being caught on the peak and you would be ending up on holding for how many years.This is why it would really be that best that you should really make yourself that be wise on taking some entries.Although it wont really be that so simple considering that emotions and mind boggling factors which would really affect you out along the way. Market is really indeed that speculative and if you arent really that mindful towards your actions then you would definitely be having that losses instead of gains and this is why you should really be that careful. Dont take every actions you would made is something having that gambling like approach.

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Speculative? Yes, to some extent. But with the constant evolution of the technology and the market, now it is hard to speculate what will happen. We still use analysis and many fundamentals to understand the market. Nothing comes out of luck or gamble in the market. For sure, you can make a fortune with luck. But in the long run, you can never become successful.
In order to speculate, we need to have proper knowledge about the market. That comes from learning and experiments. But that's a long process. For that reason, we stick to the old methods that people have come up with in the past. This is the reason why we can not get a 100% accurate results on our prediction. But as the process are somewhat similar to the new market movements, it is predictable at some extent. Learning this is crucial for any newbie trader. This will help you understand the market in depth. If the future, it will also help us to come up with our own strategy.

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Quote from: palle11 on April 26, 2023, 05:03:33 AM

For newbies in trading, you need to understand that the crypto market is a speculative and not stagnant. It moves up and down known as bull and bear respectively. Incase you don't know, now, how trade happens is when one buyer is speculating up another can speculate down and the exchange happens on the trading platform. For example when the price of btc is $28,000, someone is speculating it further to buy to $29,500 and another can speculate it to sell to $26,000. So depending on your chart and analysis, that determines your winning strength if you speculate rightly. Trading is speculative based on your technical analysis, indicators and fundamentals (news).

There are too many periods when the TA shows that it will go up and yet it goes down, and when it shows going down and it goes up. Those are because of speculations, there are "news" that something will happen and that makes people question what's going to happen and they worry about it.

I personally do not worry about those but unfortunately market usually reacts to these news, good or bad it doesn't matter. When they do, TA becomes worthless because people act accordingly. I understand that people will be doing something that will not make too much noise, but hopefully they will do something that will make them some money in the end if they can use these speculations to their favor. I can't, I am aware of it but incapable of using it to my advantage but at least I do not let it hurt my finances.

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Quote from: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on May 30, 2023, 10:12:19 AM

the crypto market is indeed very speculative but speculative doesn't mean it can't be predicted but if we can read the TA then we can handle market volatility,
especially with a high level of reward it's very reasonable if the crypto market is very speculative, I'm sure many traders don't have a problem with that either.

Indeed, many people don't mind it, but many people just follow the ongoing trend, whether it's hype or not, as long as it can be profitable, many people will definitely get into it.

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Quote from: monineklutak on May 30, 2023, 01:33:40 AM

Quote from: disconnectme on May 30, 2023, 12:18:37 AM

If the price does not move there is no way people will make money investing or trading a token if the price do not move. Volatility is good if it moves in your direction (long or short). I think the most important thing is to be able to spot the bottom and buy when the price is close to the bottom because the price will always go up from that position, it is easy to stop the bottom than the top this is very important for newbies to learn this will help then in the long term rather than FOMOing into already pumped tokens and they end up being a bagholder

It's true that basically the highly volatile crypto price movement is what makes us able to make a profit,
that's why it's important to have the knowledge and skills,
What is clear is that we have to know when to buy and when to sell.

If a person wants to trade then it is very necessary to have knowledge and skills. Because if a person trades if he does not have knowledge and skills then he will not be able to trade and gain. He will not understand when to buy and when to sell coins. So trading requires a lot of knowledge and skills.

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Trading is speculative and almost everyone knows this fact and if someone does not know about it then surely he is not enter into crypto market yet. speculative feature is the based on expert's thoughts about crypto and this is beneficial one because some people will desire to buy crypto while some will desire to sell it and it will be possible only when the the market prices fluctuates regularly. People make speculations according to their experience and mentality so it is not sure that any type of speculations can become true or will be fake.

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Quote from: anggoro manise on May 30, 2023, 03:38:10 AM

Quote from: monineklutak on May 30, 2023, 01:33:40 AM

It's true that basically the highly volatile crypto price movement is what makes us able to make a profit,
that's why it's important to have the knowledge and skills,
What is clear is that we have to know when to buy and when to sell.

That is the basic basis in crypto, in fact everyone will agree with that, but analysis and skills are also still influenced by global issues, not only bitcoin, many things also affect world issues. but in reality many people find it difficult to predict prices, maybe if you want to get quick profits you can take advantage of the moment, but for the long term, there will be many things we have to think about.

the crypto market is indeed very speculative but speculative doesn't mean it can't be predicted but if we can read the TA then we can handle market volatility,
especially with a high level of reward it's very reasonable if the crypto market is very speculative, I'm sure many traders don't have a problem with that either.

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Quote from: anggoro manise on May 30, 2023, 03:38:10 AM

Quote from: monineklutak on May 30, 2023, 01:33:40 AM

It's true that basically the highly volatile crypto price movement is what makes us able to make a profit,
that's why it's important to have the knowledge and skills,
What is clear is that we have to know when to buy and when to sell.

That is the basic basis in crypto, in fact everyone will agree with that, but analysis and skills are also still influenced by global issues, not only bitcoin, many things also affect world issues. but in reality many people find it difficult to predict prices, maybe if you want to get quick profits you can take advantage of the moment, but for the long term, there will be many things we have to think about.

market volatility in crypto currency is unavoidable, moreover this is indeed an advantage of the crypto market,
where price volatility is highly favored by market participants or traders to gain more profit,
yes the risk is indeed big but if you understand TA then the risk will be even smaller.

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Quote from: monineklutak on May 30, 2023, 01:33:40 AM

It's true that basically the highly volatile crypto price movement is what makes us able to make a profit,
that's why it's important to have the knowledge and skills,
What is clear is that we have to know when to buy and when to sell.

That is the basic basis in crypto, in fact everyone will agree with that, but analysis and skills are also still influenced by global issues, not only bitcoin, many things also affect world issues. but in reality many people find it difficult to predict prices, maybe if you want to get quick profits you can take advantage of the moment, but for the long term, there will be many things we have to think about.

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Quote from: disconnectme on May 30, 2023, 12:18:37 AM

If the price does not move there is no way people will make money investing or trading a token if the price do not move. Volatility is good if it moves in your direction (long or short). I think the most important thing is to be able to spot the bottom and buy when the price is close to the bottom because the price will always go up from that position, it is easy to stop the bottom than the top this is very important for newbies to learn this will help then in the long term rather than FOMOing into already pumped tokens and they end up being a bagholder

If you are a new investor and you are entering the market in a period where the market has been inactive for a long time i would definitely recommend you to use your crypto basket in favor of major coins. This is because people get caught in the FOMO in the stagnant market and sink into the inflated bubble coins.

If you are planning to invest for many years, do not try to find the bottom of the price but jump on the train from a reasonable level.
It is difficult to predict the bottom in the price and do not blame yourself for this because you cannot predict the bottom even in the stable period.

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Quote from: disconnectme on May 30, 2023, 12:18:37 AM

If the price does not move there is no way people will make money investing or trading a token if the price do not move. Volatility is good if it moves in your direction (long or short). I think the most important thing is to be able to spot the bottom and buy when the price is close to the bottom because the price will always go up from that position, it is easy to stop the bottom than the top this is very important for newbies to learn this will help then in the long term rather than FOMOing into already pumped tokens and they end up being a bagholder

It's true that basically the highly volatile crypto price movement is what makes us able to make a profit,
that's why it's important to have the knowledge and skills,
What is clear is that we have to know when to buy and when to sell.

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If the price does not move there is no way people will make money investing or trading a token if the price do not move. Volatility is good if it moves in your direction (long or short). I think the most important thing is to be able to spot the bottom and buy when the price is close to the bottom because the price will always go up from that position, it is easy to stop the bottom than the top this is very important for newbies to learn this will help then in the long term rather than FOMOing into already pumped tokens and they end up being a bagholder

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on May 29, 2023, 02:49:44 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 29, 2023, 02:23:33 PM

This market, as well as many, is speculative, the beautiful thing about the bitcoin market is that the market is not controlled, this market can be controlled according to the money you have, otherwise there is no way to do it, in every speculative market it is full of institutions whales, and obviously the effects of the fundamentals that affect every market and if it is speculative, but the interesting thing about the crypto market is the volatility, whoever understands and manages volatility can make a lot of money and apart from that, it is a great plus, because volatility in the crypto market is unique and the main ingredient of this market.

indeed volatility is a strong attraction for this market for some beginners who have the intention to invest. this is an opportunity to make a very attractive profit. Unfortunately, many beginners mistakenly think that they will get rich quickly by investing in crypto without knowing the risks of market volatility itself.
here the lack of understanding of the market and crypto assets becomes the main problem for beginners who just put their money in a hurry.

things that happen a lot for beginners who think investing in cryptocurrencies is an easy way to earn money. of course with knowledge we will get satisfying profits, but to gain experience we have to learn and go through a long process, after that we can understand the direction of fluctuations to place speculations so that they can be turned into profits. therefore don't just look at the results of someone who is successful in the market, but we have to find out how they can be successful, survive in the market

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 29, 2023, 02:23:33 PM

This market, as well as many, is speculative, the beautiful thing about the bitcoin market is that the market is not controlled, this market can be controlled according to the money you have, otherwise there is no way to do it, in every speculative market it is full of institutions whales, and obviously the effects of the fundamentals that affect every market and if it is speculative, but the interesting thing about the crypto market is the volatility, whoever understands and manages volatility can make a lot of money and apart from that, it is a great plus, because volatility in the crypto market is unique and the main ingredient of this market.

indeed volatility is a strong attraction for this market for some beginners who have the intention to invest. this is an opportunity to make a very attractive profit. Unfortunately, many beginners mistakenly think that they will get rich quickly by investing in crypto without knowing the risks of market volatility itself.
here the lack of understanding of the market and crypto assets becomes the main problem for beginners who just put their money in a hurry.

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This market, as well as many, is speculative, the beautiful thing about the bitcoin market is that the market is not controlled, this market can be controlled according to the money you have, otherwise there is no way to do it, in every speculative market it is full of institutions whales, and obviously the effects of the fundamentals that affect every market and if it is speculative, but the interesting thing about the crypto market is the volatility, whoever understands and manages volatility can make a lot of money and apart from that, it is a great plus, because volatility in the crypto market is unique and the main ingredient of this market.

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Quote from: Baoo on May 17, 2023, 12:32:46 PM

Well, the recent condition of market is dramatically unstable and unprofitable for traders , as you see the prices go up and down although with a low value. Unfortunately, most of newbies are impatient and greedy, they would like to make a large profit without effort added and in short time, that’s impossible to happen especially during this rough period. From my perspective, it is preferable to purchase and HODL only the best cryptocurrencies ( like, Bitcoin and Ethereum ) for long term instead of taking the risk through daily trading for unguaranteed returns. For me, I highly doubt if Bitcoin will rise remarkably during this month. Probably, the highet price will be $40K in this year.

We have traders making profits as the market is falling, trading Bitcoin through spot trading is the most popular ways of trading but not the only way you can trade. You can trade Bitcoin through future trading and make profit if the price rise or falls. It's a very risky way of trading and not recommended for everybody, only those that should trade like this are experience traders and not new traders just joining the market.

I also believe $40k can be the highest the market can go in the year, so we shouldn't be expecting the market to start pumping. And if Bitcoin doesn't go higher, I believe other coins will not pump as well. Every cryptocurency depends on the success of Bitcoin price to rise.

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Quote from: Questat on May 12, 2023, 01:19:44 AM

Whatever we do, everything here in crypto remains speculative. In fact, nobody here is ever sure that a project will turn scam but because our minds are proactive and very speculative, we can assess whether that particular project is a scam or not based on its performance and project designs. A reason why crypto investment never guarantees 100% secure, it is risky, and this kind of nature can't ever be changed even in the future. That is why we have to choose the project/s that gives us some assurance at least we also have a bigger chance to earn a profit, not losses.

Indeed. Each project can be dead or turn to be scammed at any time, no coin is 100% secure (especially altcoins). Even Bitcoin is possible to be dead due to some reasons. So, surely every investment in crypto coins is speculative. That's why crypto investment is categorized as a high-risk investment. However, we can learn how to deal with these conditions in crypto. At least, we learn the current issues about each coin we want to invest in and update the information about crypto as a whole. We also need to learn the price history of the coins we want to hold, so we can make a plan about the target. We mustn't hold the coins forever, there should be a short-term holding and a long-term holding. Choose the appropriate coins according to the target of holding them.

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Quote from: teosanru on May 18, 2023, 04:21:29 PM

Quote from: palle11 on April 26, 2023, 05:03:33 AM

For newbies in trading, you need to understand that the crypto market is a speculative and not stagnant. It moves up and down known as bull and bear respectively. Incase you don't know, now, how trade happens is when one buyer is speculating up another can speculate down and the exchange happens on the trading platform. For example when the price of btc is $28,000, someone is speculating it further to buy to $29,500 and another can speculate it to sell to $26,000. So depending on your chart and analysis, that determines your winning strength if you speculate rightly. Trading is speculative based on your technical analysis, indicators and fundamentals (news).

What do you think?

Pretty much true I have to agree, but i think the speculation when it can be combined slightly with probabilities can become trading. You can add element of probability along with risk to reward ratio to ensure that outcomes which you are speculating gives you big profit but when the outcome is not in your favour you'll end up in small losses only.

your speculation will be near to what may possibly happen if you have substantial reasons why you are predicting such trend to happen. meaning, you are also doing your due diligence and not blindly predicting what's next. doing your research and assessment according to actual developments of the project would be of great help. because such trend won't magically appear without reason. you can also enrich yourself with what may happen next to the coin or token if you will subscribe to their social media channels. because most of them are not sharing their plans on the site itself but within their socmed subscribers.

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Quote from: jeraldskie11 on May 06, 2023, 12:17:29 AM

For me, it's probably better to say that the market is predictive. It is also necessary to analyze the market to increase the probability that the market will go in the direction you want. However, we do not control the market so we are not the ones to decide instead we are the ones to adjust and conform to where the price can go. If you trade or invest in a speculative way, you will surely find it difficult to succeed in your crypto journey.

It is so, when we trade we surrender to our predictions and to believe in our vision of the market, but here it is advisable to try to go in the right direction so that things go well all the time and we can earn the benefits that we have always dear, it is normal that when we lose, because the amount is greater than when we win, that is something that we have to take into consideration, otherwise there would be no speculative markets, because a speculative market is everywhere, and we must adjust to it To win, if the price of a stock or currency goes up, we must win and if the price goes down, we must win with that price going down.

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