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May 10, 2023, 06:53:12 PM
#72
So depending on your chart and analysis, that determines your winning strength if you speculate rightly. Trading is speculative based on your technical analysis, indicators and fundamentals (news).

What do you think?
It depends on how good the analyser is able to interpret the chart before them and their strength as regards decision making. Speculation is a knowledge based technique which can be done fundamentally or technically whereby indicators are subsets of technical analysis.

Depending on your charts alone might not guarantee winning the reason many expert traders advice to combine both fundamental and technical analysis because when both are making the same speculation it always have higher winning chances.
Technicals + Fundamentals are the most common way or on how to approach or on how to deal up on this space on which we know that this is really that something speculative and totally random. Some do even believe about having no use of TA or FA because it is really that going against with those principles but come in mind that it would really be just more better compared on making out some positions without having some back up analysis or considerations because making out some buying or selling decision without basis is just purely gambling.

Market is indeed speculative but somewhat it is something that could be handled out if you are really that sensible on learning up things which are really that relevant or something that could really be able to
make yourself having the advantage or giving out the idea on what you should gonna do, compared into those people who do just simply dive in with having that pure guess kind of mentality.
Its not really that something you should be confident out because one false move then you would be ending up on losing investment, although its paper loss but still loss is a loss.
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May 10, 2023, 08:02:48 AM
#71
As the market is constantly moving up and down, traders must be able to analyze the market and make educated guesses about the future movement of the market. Technical analysis, indicators, and fundamentals can all play a role in helping traders make these predictions. However, it's important to remember that trading is never a guarantee, and there is always risk involved. Therefore, it's important to have a solid risk management plan in place to protect oneself from potential losses. Overall, understanding the speculative nature of the market and using the right tools and strategies can help traders succeed in the crypto market.
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May 10, 2023, 03:05:40 AM
#70
So depending on your chart and analysis, that determines your winning strength if you speculate rightly. Trading is speculative based on your technical analysis, indicators and fundamentals (news).

What do you think?
It depends on how good the analyser is able to interpret the chart before them and their strength as regards decision making. Speculation is a knowledge based technique which can be done fundamentally or technically whereby indicators are subsets of technical analysis.

Depending on your charts alone might not guarantee winning the reason many expert traders advice to combine both fundamental and technical analysis because when both are making the same speculation it always have higher winning chances.
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May 09, 2023, 06:09:01 PM
#69
If the new traders learn the price charts and candle well,it’s easy for them to learn trading and earn money from it.The simple trading strategy is the purchase of the bitcoin should be done at the bear market.Incase you brought in bull market,it takes huge time as compared to the normal profit duration.Now the fee of bitcoin and Ethereum was high,So people who need money will convert their assets the other trusted cryptocurrency.Which mean the demands of other coin was increased now.So we expected huge bull run in the altcoin market for now.In case you had bitcoin and Ethereum,you can hold till the price of BTC,ETH back to 30k dollars again.Invest your savings to trusted altcoin for the short time return.
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May 09, 2023, 08:01:17 AM
#68
You are correct that the cryptocurrency market is highly speculative and volatile, with prices constantly moving up and down. Trading involves buying and selling digital assets based on one's speculation about the future direction of the market.
Yes, crypto price movements are so volatile and this makes it difficult to predict,
we must know when the time to buy and sell is very important,
even though it is not easy and we must always follow market movements.
There àre people that the market is never difficult to predict and it all based on the knowledge we have concerning the market. Those that are true traders knows how the whales manipulate the market and they are not scared of what might happens next in the market.

Those that know how to analyze the market are always confidence to talk about the Cryptocurrency market and act in a way that would favour them. The price do move up and down due to the volatility of the market which is one of the factors that balance the market momentum. If we have gotten diligent knowledge about the market, we are nit going to be scared or surprised about how the market choose to move whether to the upward direction or the downward direction.
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May 09, 2023, 06:07:59 AM
#67
What I think is that even if the market is volatile, I think that it's probably safe to assume that you can use that volatility to your advantage, I know that it's random but I'm sure there's nothing in this world that's absolutely random, studying how the market is moving can probably help you a lot since there's a pattern, for example the halving is always a guarantee in the growth of the bitcoin market.
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May 09, 2023, 04:35:46 AM
#66
Market is predictive only for those who are familiar with trading for sometime who always keep update himself with latest economic news, Bitcoin big whales wallets, buying and selling volume, fear in the market, adoption of crypto and other . Newbie have no knowledge which side market will go and theirs all trading done blindly just like buying lottery.

What you're trying to say is, if we familiarize yourself with those information then we can predict the market therefore the market is predictive. If you don't have the information needed to make your prediction very accurate that's not the problem of the market since that information is opened to anyone wanting to learn it. We have to get ourselves familiarize with everything in the market to be successful.

The market is speculative, predictive and seasonal, you can make money like the professional traders, you have to do what they do to stay ahead of the market and that's getting the right information. You can't be emptied and you're expecting positive results from your trades.
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May 08, 2023, 02:19:06 PM
#65
Things are supposed to be that simple, but what happens is different, as trading works 24 hours, 7 days a week, and platforms are from all over the world, and trading can be done between platforms. stability tends more to market demands and not to one user, where you have a level of support and resistance through which the price moves, which is the basis of what Known as technical analysis that helps you make your investment decisions.

When you place an order to buy or sell, you take into account the following support and resistance levels, taking the relative averages as a basis for trading.

People make out many things from the support and resistance lines of the technical analysis. I do not make out many exciting things from Support and Resistance.  The only thing they help me for is to determine where to place my  stop loss and take profit margin. I will try to research further advantageous ways to use them.

Op, the market is not only speculative, it is also seasonal. You will only be a winner or be on the winning lane iff you consider the speculative and seasonal nature of the market.
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May 08, 2023, 02:00:16 PM
#64
For me, it's probably better to say that the market is predictive. It is also necessary to analyze the market to increase the probability that the market will go in the direction you want. However, we do not control the market so we are not the ones to decide instead we are the ones to adjust and conform to where the price can go. If you trade or invest in a speculative way, you will surely find it difficult to succeed in your crypto journey.
No, but what he said is already is already fine. It is really speculative, not predictive. Speculating isn't just purely predicting but it also involves analyzing. Small traders and investors does not have the ability to control the market but the big ones or the whales can. They can be able to manipulate it, making things more harder or confusing to us.

I think in other markets, it also works the same. They say that no market moves in a natural way so sometimes we will need a luck to be able to to earn successfully. In investing, we will also need patience. Lots of it so that we can be able to wait till the price that we want comes as its boring and different emotions can be expected which can affect us.
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May 07, 2023, 02:06:57 PM
#63
For newbies in trading, you need to understand that the crypto market is a speculative and not stagnant. It moves up and down known as bull and bear respectively. Incase you don't know,
Dear Op, That's an obvious thing about speculation because it means, buying low and selling high (by making good entries), So as you mentioned, Technical and Fundamental analysis are the main factors that we should learn, But in my perspective, newbies should speculate market but before doing that they should spectate and observe the market.

Like "they should watch more and play less", if they adopt this rule at the start they will learn more as if i take my example, my friend used to tell me to not do such trade and even then i took entries in those because he always told me to not to take an entry, but i was interested in the "reason", So, back then my mindset was, if i didn't take entry then how can i learn the reason behind that "warning".

But, i was at mistake, as i can observe that without taking entry. So, i would like to add some points to your post;
  • Always observe than play (already mentioned)
  • Start with demo accounts or with Backtest trading
  • Always observe news and find out fake ones and the ones creating fuds, How? make your own way like water.
  • While observing the market, control your emotions because the market is all about stats and once you bring emotions into it, You are doomed
  • "Knowledge is power" so, before presuming something, learn the reasons behind it, things that cause ups and downs, fuds, manipulations, and get ahead of fools ones.
  • Keep your pace consistent because trading is not for quick money, (for newbies), while pros can make quick money out of it.
  • Know your place and accept your understanding level, don't lie to your self instead accept it and try to improve your lack in trading skills.
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May 07, 2023, 12:15:51 PM
#62
For newbies in trading, you need to understand that the crypto market is a speculative and not stagnant. It moves up and down known as bull and bear respectively. Incase you don't know, now, how trade happens is when one buyer is speculating up another can speculate down and the exchange happens on the trading platform. For example when the price of btc is $28,000, someone is speculating it further to buy to $29,500 and another can speculate it to sell to $26,000. So depending on your chart and analysis, that determines your winning strength if you speculate rightly. Trading is speculative based on your technical analysis, indicators and fundamentals (news).

What do you think?

If I wanted to put this example in a simple manner then in the trading world it would be called bear trading and bull trading. Simply put, bear trading is something where traders predict that a specific asset/toke/coin would drop its current value and lose the market cap in the process. Based on his prediction, the position at which he has put the money could decide the amount of profits that he will win.

In a similar way, the bull is something that is predicted based on the future price of the asset/coin/token. Both of them are in the opposite team and they would want the expected results based on that.

Things could be tricky in both ways since we are in a highly volatile market per se.
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May 07, 2023, 09:15:46 AM
#61
For newbies in trading, you need to understand that the crypto market is a speculative and not stagnant. It moves up and down known as bull and bear respectively. Incase you don't know, now, how trade happens is when one buyer is speculating up another can speculate down and the exchange happens on the trading platform. For example when the price of btc is $28,000, someone is speculating it further to buy to $29,500 and another can speculate it to sell to $26,000. So depending on your chart and analysis, that determines your winning strength if you speculate rightly. Trading is speculative based on your technical analysis, indicators and fundamentals (news).
A newbie in trading have to peruse into some trading articles to have some of highlights of trading scope before going into Trading fully, because its clear that trading has norms, which if you don't know the rudiments of Trading you might end up of achieving nothing in trading, so the best some can be acquainted with trading schedules is to be able to know the chart of the marketcap, some people trade with another person speculation might end up of losing because its what the person thinks that might be the outcome of the market by that moment, whiles if you known how to study the chart, you will know when you buy and when to sell, speculation is indirectly kind of people predictions of cryptocurrency or neither the market, what we predict should be as result of personal assumptions of the market.
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May 07, 2023, 08:47:55 AM
#60
You are correct that the cryptocurrency market is highly speculative and volatile, with prices constantly moving up and down. Trading involves buying and selling digital assets based on one's speculation about the future direction of the market.
Yes, crypto price movements are so volatile and this makes it difficult to predict,
we must know when the time to buy and sell is very important,
even though it is not easy and we must always follow market movements.
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May 06, 2023, 07:38:18 AM
#59
For me, it's probably better to say that the market is predictive. It is also necessary to analyze the market to increase the probability that the market will go in the direction you want. However, we do not control the market so we are not the ones to decide instead we are the ones to adjust and conform to where the price can go. If you trade or invest in a speculative way, you will surely find it difficult to succeed in your crypto journey.

Market is predictive only for those who are familiar with trading for sometime who always keep update himself with latest economic news, Bitcoin big whales wallets, buying and selling volume, fear in the market, adoption of crypto and other . Newbie have no knowledge which side market will go and theirs all trading done blindly just like buying lottery.

Market have chances both up and down but investing in proper strategy will not let you loss in trading. for example of we start from 30% fund if Market down and become bearish then we will hold previous one and will use another 30% for trading. both bull and bear market strategy should be change. In bull we should look for 10%-50% profit while in bear 3% is big.
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May 06, 2023, 07:23:36 AM
#58
You are correct that the cryptocurrency market is highly speculative and volatile, with prices constantly moving up and down. Trading involves buying and selling digital assets based on one's speculation about the future direction of the market.
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May 06, 2023, 06:15:13 AM
#57
Anyone who is venturing the market should be able to accept the risk factors, I know is good of thinking positive but as well also accept the risk. They should know that with any slight mistakes being entry point or inputs with digits can easily make them lost money or that's why as a trader you must familiarize yourself with satoshi calculations and the exact conversion to usdt before venture into trading. As major principle of trading, the process of up and down wards movement of bitcoin is what leads to a successful trading.
They really should and for me this is very important, if you enter this market without fully aware, accepting and embracing the risks then I'm sorry to say but you are in a wrong path. In this path there is no sureball or a sure profit that can give you consistently, that is the reason why the win rate among all of the traders and investors are very low. Only few people manage to beat the market because they are the one who are aware and accepting the risk very well. Avoiding losses is also a factor, how can you avoid something that is completely unavoidable? It is one of the nature of the cryptocurrency market which is the uncertainty. There is a risks because of the uncertainty, meaning that you cannot know if the coin that you are holding will increase or decrease because of a lot of factors in the market.

Fully accepting the risk is necessary but it is not enough, it is just part of the steps if you want to become a profitable trader in this industry. There are a lot of things that you should also make a focus like learning the right system that is fit and suitable for you, learn how to manage your risk very well, the right mindset of a trader/investor and lastly how will you perceived the information given by the market to you. These are things that are necessary to make consistently earning in this market, most of the traders/investors doesn't give a fvck to it and that is the reason why they do not make any profit.
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May 06, 2023, 12:17:29 AM
#56
For me, it's probably better to say that the market is predictive. It is also necessary to analyze the market to increase the probability that the market will go in the direction you want. However, we do not control the market so we are not the ones to decide instead we are the ones to adjust and conform to where the price can go. If you trade or invest in a speculative way, you will surely find it difficult to succeed in your crypto journey.
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May 05, 2023, 11:40:47 PM
#55
These analysis are mostly for the short term and if we avoid that we can still be profiting in the long term. Because these are not exactly science, the analysis are correct 50% of the time. Thus you decisions should not base on the analysis only because it is only correct half the time, but also on the news the market fear and greed indices etc.

Overall, newbies should understand that the speculation drives the market and that the immediate effect is only visible on short term. The effect normalizes in the long term and thus they should focus more on that.
Beginners must understand and learn to analyze market conditions to find when to enter the market. And if the market conditions are not like your analysis, you should not decide to enter the market and it is better to wait a little longer. It will be better for you because you have prevented any risks that arise if you still enter the market. And advice for beginners is to control their emotions when they see negative news and not panic.

Of course the crypto market is speculative, sometimes predictable and mostly difficult. This is the dynamics that occur in the market so that there is no pattern that is always the same every time that can consistently benefit traders and investors.

I would definitely say price volatility is important to have in crypto as prices are affected by supply and demand. It is a free market that tends to be unregulated but but very likely to be manipulated. Some don't like it and I can conclude that this is not the world for them. Analysis helps traders and investors find the right time to buy, although it is not a guarantee of consistently making big profits.
With price volatility happen, that can allow us to buy and sell at the price we want. I think we can make profits as long as we don't greedily pursue profits. And if they can't stay in the market with the volatility that occurs every day, they don't need to stick around and try trading but should learn more before trying to trade again. This will prevent them from incurring losses which could get bigger if they still decide to trade.

when a trader has more experience and skills, it will help them to minimize the risks they face. indeed they can not accurately see the movement of the market. But what they do with good analysis will tell them the odds and opportunities the market will move. that is what many traders do.
if you don't want to take a bigger risk, then you can wait by investing in Bitcoin. even though it is risky but still it will be smaller than trading.
That is why a trader must be able to learn to improve their skills in trading. And when their analytical skills have improved, they can know when to enter the market. It can provide more opportunities if they can get good analysis results even though the results may be wrong due to market volatility. Investing in bitcoin is the right decision anyone, including inexperienced beginners, can make. And when they can buy when the price is declining and hold it and not panic, they will have the opportunity to make huge profits in the future by staying on hold in the bear market it is today.
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May 05, 2023, 06:15:12 PM
#54
Well I think anyone who is coming into trading already knows the nature of what he or she is going into and that trading is very speculative  and tye result we get should be bade on our technical analysis  and just as as other users have stated that nothing is certain in trading and no one trader can boldly brag of a certainty of the entry point of a trade and its entry point,  Hence, all our results are based on  assumptions  on trading and that's  why it is always advisable to study the chart and make some technical analysis  so as to at least stay updated with the market and being at the page with the market and it's indicator.
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May 05, 2023, 05:06:34 PM
#53
For newbies in trading, you need to understand that the crypto market is a speculative and not stagnant. It moves up and down known as bull and bear respectively. In case you don't know, now, how trade happens is when one buyer is speculating up another can speculate down and the exchange happens on the trading platform. For example when the price of BTC is $28,000, someone is speculating it further to buy to $29,500 and another can speculate it to sell to $26,000. So depending on your chart and analysis, that determines your winning strength if you speculate rightly. Trading is speculative based on your technical analysis, indicators and fundamentals (news).

What do you think?
Nice to dates for both newbies and any other rank member on bitcointalk that may not have the understanding of this fact about bitcoin price movement, and for the fact that Bitcoin is a speculative asset makes it trading possible and while a buyer may be predicting future uptrend price, the seller, on the other hand, doesn't necessarily need to speculate a possible bear market in the future.

While trades happen for various reasons, but speculation is greatly out of this and not everyone that is opening a sell order is predicting a possible bear market, but the buyer, on the other hand, is speculative and in an uptrend direction since profits making is the primary aim for trading/buying bitcoin.
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