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Quote from: Inwestour on May 17, 2023, 04:32:27 AM

For newbies in trading, you need to understand that the crypto market is a speculative and not stagnant. It moves up and down known as bull and bear respectively. Incase you don't know, now, how trade happens is when one buyer is speculating up another can speculate down and the exchange happens on the trading platform. For example when the price of btc is $28,000, someone is speculating it further to buy to $29,500 and another can speculate it to sell to $26,000. So depending on your chart and analysis, that determines your winning strength if you speculate rightly. Trading is speculative based on your technical analysis, indicators and fundamentals (news).

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Pretty much true I have to agree, but i think the speculation when it can be combined slightly with probabilities can become trading. You can add element of probability along with risk to reward ratio to ensure that outcomes which you are speculating gives you big profit but when the outcome is not in your favour you'll end up in small losses only.

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Quote from: rodskee on May 15, 2023, 01:09:46 AM

Whatever we do, everything here in crypto remains speculative. In fact, nobody here is ever sure that a project will turn scam but because our minds are proactive and very speculative, we can assess whether that particular project is a scam or not based on its performance and project designs. A reason why crypto investment never guarantees 100% secure, it is risky, and this kind of nature can't ever be changed even in the future. That is why we have to choose the project/s that gives us some assurance at least we also have a bigger chance to earn a profit, not losses.

There are altcoins that are more volatile compared to other tokens, they can be used for trading, but you need to understand that the risks of losing funds will be much greater. Volatility provides certain opportunities, whoever knows how to use it will make a profit, whoever fails, will say that cryptocurrencies are too dangerous and risky.

There are also many discussions that investing will always win relative to trading, you can take a period of active trading and see what result you have achieved during this time, is there any profit and if there is, then how significant is it, and look what result you can get from investment if you just invested that money for the same period in bitcoin. Trading can generate income, but you need to remember that only a few percent of traders are able to earn money, everyone else loses money.

This is true, while in theory traders can beat the performance of the investors, this is rarely the case, so buying bitcoin and holding it for the long term is not only an easier strategy to implement, it is also the one that on average is the most profitable out of the two, with that being said if you are an incredible trader and you have evidence that your trading strategy can definitely beat the performance given by the market then you can try to trade, still you need to be careful as great deal of traders believe themselves to be capable of this and almost no one fulfills their ambitions.

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Quote from: Inwestour on May 17, 2023, 04:32:27 AM

What do you think?

What I have learn in all trading and market that I entered? all is speculative mate unless those are manipulated place in which
only the whales are winning , but in crypto market and even in all trading platform < it is speculating is what it makes the world go round.

There is manipulations in each market and the whales are mostly benefiting with it but if you have some good experiences, you will know the patterns and you can ride those manipulations to gain a benefit as well. If it's about the financial market, speculating, other than manipulation is what makes it go round but outside of it, some says love while in science, it says the gravity.

Newbie or not, rushing is not good but it can only cause a mess on the things that you are doing but newbies mostly needed it to be able to minimize the risk. The forum is free so no one will lose money here but we do all lose once we engage in trading or investing. It's normal though.

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There are also many discussions that investing will always win relative to trading, you can take a period of active trading and see what result you have achieved during this time, is there any profit and if there is, then how significant is it, and look what result you can get from investment if you just invested that money for the same period in bitcoin. Trading can generate income, but you need to remember that only a few percent of traders are able to earn money, everyone else loses money.

Those who earn a lot from trading must have a lot of experience and good trading analysis skills.
Only some of the traders will consistently earn profits and some of them lose money.

When compared to investing it is a different choice. Investing is for the long term, buying at the bottom and waiting for the price to rise to the target price.
In a few years it will pay off well, but as long as the Bitcoin market stays in good shape, investing is also paired with DCA, a strategy to buy at a lower price.

Quote from: Baoo on May 17, 2023, 11:32:46 AM

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From my perspective, it is preferable to purchase and HODL only the best cryptocurrencies ( like, Bitcoin and Ethereum ) for long term instead of taking the risk through daily trading for unguaranteed returns. For me, I highly doubt if Bitcoin will rise remarkably during this month. Probably, the highet price will be $40K in this year.

Buying and HOLD is good enough to do, as long as you are mentally strong and strong for the spare money you have.
Rather than taking risks for day trading, it requires good trading skills.
Don't try day trading if you don't have trading knowledge, it will only waste your money.

Quote from: Oilacris on May 17, 2023, 04:56:48 PM

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Indeed, there is no guarantee whatsoever even though you have done fairly deep research.
Sometimes the project is good and the development team works quite optimally, but the project fails to get a hard cap.
There are many factors that can cause the project to fail even though the research is good.

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Quote from: maydna on May 12, 2023, 01:59:38 AM

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Of course, speculative is a sure thing in crypto trading because it is fast how investors get income because of 1 fast price. but not a few also fall there and then they feel they have failed in investing in crypto and then say this is a money game. here we have to be really observant in seeing the potential of a project to be able to generate or develop assets in the future.

Speculative people try to make a profit because they estimate where the price will move and speculate about the situation. But speculative will be successful if they can analyze market movements in the previous few days so that he can speculate. But if the speculation is to choose a potential project, we should not get our hopes up because one project can become a scam in the future. In addition, a project will look good at the start of its release, so we must be careful in choosing the project.

Whatever we do, everything here in crypto remains speculative. In fact, nobody here is ever sure that a project will turn scam but because our minds are proactive and very speculative, we can assess whether that particular project is a scam or not based on its performance and project designs. A reason why crypto investment never guarantees 100% secure, it is risky, and this kind of nature can't ever be changed even in the future. That is why we have to choose the project/s that gives us some assurance at least we also have a bigger chance to earn a profit, not losses.

We think that way because we want to benefit from every project we choose and buy tokens for, and it's only natural that we think that way. But again, we should look for more information to help us make decisions so we don't choose the wrong project. And as long as we can accept the risk of investing and only use the money we can afford, we won't be disappointed because we already know the risks. Investing in crypto does not guarantee that you will get a profit, especially if it is an altcoin or token. If we are wrong in analyzing the coin or token, we will not get a profit and must hold it until the price increases.

When we do make out some DYOR then we do usually having this kind of approach or things to be done;

1. Doxxed Dev team
2. Whitepaper
3. Roadmap
4. Utility
5. Tokenomics
6. Community support/interest

Although even all of these things have been checked but still a project couldnt really give out an assurance that it would succeed
because everything would really be depending of projects success on how the Developer or the team would be pushing up on following on whats the written thing on their roadmap
or simply talking about the development.

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Well, the recent condition of market is dramatically unstable and unprofitable for traders , as you see the prices go up and down although with a low value. Unfortunately, most of newbies are impatient and greedy, they would like to make a large profit without effort added and in short time, that’s impossible to happen especially during this rough period. From my perspective, it is preferable to purchase and HODL only the best cryptocurrencies ( like, Bitcoin and Ethereum ) for long term instead of taking the risk through daily trading for unguaranteed returns. For me, I highly doubt if Bitcoin will rise remarkably during this month. Probably, the highet price will be $40K in this year.

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Quote from: fauzan Ichsan on May 12, 2023, 09:14:56 AM

Whatever we do, everything here in crypto remains speculative. In fact, nobody here is ever sure that a project will turn scam but because our minds are proactive and very speculative, we can assess whether that particular project is a scam or not based on its performance and project designs. A reason why crypto investment never guarantees 100% secure, it is risky, and this kind of nature can't ever be changed even in the future. That is why we have to choose the project/s that gives us some assurance at least we also have a bigger chance to earn a profit, not losses.

There are altcoins that are more volatile compared to other tokens, they can be used for trading, but you need to understand that the risks of losing funds will be much greater. Volatility provides certain opportunities, whoever knows how to use it will make a profit, whoever fails, will say that cryptocurrencies are too dangerous and risky.

There are also many discussions that investing will always win relative to trading, you can take a period of active trading and see what result you have achieved during this time, is there any profit and if there is, then how significant is it, and look what result you can get from investment if you just invested that money for the same period in bitcoin. Trading can generate income, but you need to remember that only a few percent of traders are able to earn money, everyone else loses money.

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the market is probability, there's nothing wrong with everyone predicting the market according to a pattern that has happened before, but we'll see the facts when it's past the predicted time, but for me risk management will be more important, considering we will be balanced in the face of a market full of uncertainty, on the other hand we expect profit on a certain target, but on the other hand we must be able to accept predetermined risks because the market does not match predictions, that is if we trade, but to make long-term investments, I think it will be easier as long as investing in the right coin, it's just a matter of time and psychological adjustment

Most traders' strategies have been thwarted by FOMO and FUD; they disregard their plans and disciplinary measures in order to reap massive returns from the market, they forget the misery facts about the market, volatility liquidate trading accounts. Despite of the market's continual pump and dump projects, the market is volatile. Every trader has the ability to trade depending on the decisions they've made, but they must employ a solid trading strategy. In other words, trading is more effective for traders when they see their capital make large profits in the market.

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Quote from: South Park on May 11, 2023, 06:01:27 PM

What do you think?

What I have learn in all trading and market that I entered? all is speculative mate unless those are manipulated place in which
only the whales are winning , but in crypto market and even in all trading platform < it is speculating is what it makes the world go round.

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For newbies in trading, you need to understand that the crypto market is a speculative and not stagnant. It moves up and down known as bull and bear respectively. Incase you don't know, now, how trade happens is when one buyer is speculating up another can speculate down and the exchange happens on the trading platform. For example when the price of btc is $28,000, someone is speculating it further to buy to $29,500 and another can speculate it to sell to $26,000. So depending on your chart and analysis, that determines your winning strength if you speculate rightly. Trading is speculative based on your technical analysis, indicators and fundamentals (news).

I think if you are newbie , there is no need to rush here , as forum of Bitcointalk is a complete package for us to learn and understand what and how it works.
just stay for a month reading , asking and understanding ? you will never lose huge (since losses is part of any profiteering as there is no assurance at all)

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Quote from: Latviand on May 09, 2023, 05:07:59 AM

What I think is that even if the market is volatile, I think that it's probably safe to assume that you can use that volatility to your advantage, I know that it's random but I'm sure there's nothing in this world that's absolutely random, studying how the market is moving can probably help you a lot since there's a pattern, for example the halving is always a guarantee in the growth of the bitcoin market.

Patterns do occur on all the markets that exist, so the movements themselves can be said to not be completely random, however the timing is a completely different history, the timing is really random as the markets are nothing more but the average of the movements of all the economic actors, and it is impossible to be able to predict beforehand how each one of those actors are going to respond to the conditions of the market and the conditions of the economy at the time, and this is what makes trading so difficult, as we know the price will go up at some point on the future, but when and how high is something no one can answer with certainty.

the market is probability, there's nothing wrong with everyone predicting the market according to a pattern that has happened before, but we'll see the facts when it's past the predicted time, but for me risk management will be more important, considering we will be balanced in the face of a market full of uncertainty, on the other hand we expect profit on a certain target, but on the other hand we must be able to accept predetermined risks because the market does not match predictions, that is if we trade, but to make long-term investments, I think it will be easier as long as investing in the right coin, it's just a matter of time and psychological adjustment

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What do you think?

Indeed the crypto market and all types of crypto that are traded including Bitcoin, based on speculative where all we know the risk of loss and so on can happen at any time, unexpectedly and in our minds, including an increase in the price of crypto on the market.

Not a few investors, crypto users who know the crypto market, who lose and also make big profits, it's all caused by speculative events that occur in the crypto market, for that we often see and read in all operating exchanges always have a warning, at the risk of loss we bear it.

I remember a saying that was said by an investor who stated.

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Trading on the crypto market is an act that is not based on reality, or just guessing so it has a high level of risk of failure.

Here we are aware, the actions we take in the crypto market cannot be separated from accuracy and so it is up to us to achieve something and vice versa.

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Any newcomer entering the cryptocurrency market at this time ought to be aware that it is a speculative one. They might have been informed when someone explained cryptocurrency to them, or they might have made this assumption based on their preconceived notions since the pricing at the time was different from what it is now. Since then, prices have fluctuated both upward and downward as a result of volatility, which cannot be forecast and can only be conjectured. This is one of the key issues that beginners encounter after making a full investment in cryptocurrencies without having enough awareness about its volatility. For newcomers, it has led to more disappointments than optimism.

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Quote from: maydna on May 11, 2023, 07:23:07 AM

Quote from: maydna on May 11, 2023, 07:23:07 AM

Of course, speculative is a sure thing in crypto trading because it is fast how investors get income because of 1 fast price. but not a few also fall there and then they feel they have failed in investing in crypto and then say this is a money game. here we have to be really observant in seeing the potential of a project to be able to generate or develop assets in the future.

Speculative people try to make a profit because they estimate where the price will move and speculate about the situation. But speculative will be successful if they can analyze market movements in the previous few days so that he can speculate. But if the speculation is to choose a potential project, we should not get our hopes up because one project can become a scam in the future. In addition, a project will look good at the start of its release, so we must be careful in choosing the project.

Whatever we do, everything here in crypto remains speculative. In fact, nobody here is ever sure that a project will turn scam but because our minds are proactive and very speculative, we can assess whether that particular project is a scam or not based on its performance and project designs. A reason why crypto investment never guarantees 100% secure, it is risky, and this kind of nature can't ever be changed even in the future. That is why we have to choose the project/s that gives us some assurance at least we also have a bigger chance to earn a profit, not losses.

We think that way because we want to benefit from every project we choose and buy tokens for, and it's only natural that we think that way. But again, we should look for more information to help us make decisions so we don't choose the wrong project. And as long as we can accept the risk of investing and only use the money we can afford, we won't be disappointed because we already know the risks. Investing in crypto does not guarantee that you will get a profit, especially if it is an altcoin or token. If we are wrong in analyzing the coin or token, we will not get a profit and must hold it until the price increases.

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Quote from: Latviand on May 09, 2023, 05:07:59 AM

Of course, speculative is a sure thing in crypto trading because it is fast how investors get income because of 1 fast price. but not a few also fall there and then they feel they have failed in investing in crypto and then say this is a money game. here we have to be really observant in seeing the potential of a project to be able to generate or develop assets in the future.

Speculative people try to make a profit because they estimate where the price will move and speculate about the situation. But speculative will be successful if they can analyze market movements in the previous few days so that he can speculate. But if the speculation is to choose a potential project, we should not get our hopes up because one project can become a scam in the future. In addition, a project will look good at the start of its release, so we must be careful in choosing the project.

Whatever we do, everything here in crypto remains speculative. In fact, nobody here is ever sure that a project will turn scam but because our minds are proactive and very speculative, we can assess whether that particular project is a scam or not based on its performance and project designs. A reason why crypto investment never guarantees 100% secure, it is risky, and this kind of nature can't ever be changed even in the future. That is why we have to choose the project/s that gives us some assurance at least we also have a bigger chance to earn a profit, not losses.

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What I think is that even if the market is volatile, I think that it's probably safe to assume that you can use that volatility to your advantage, I know that it's random but I'm sure there's nothing in this world that's absolutely random, studying how the market is moving can probably help you a lot since there's a pattern, for example the halving is always a guarantee in the growth of the bitcoin market.

Patterns do occur on all the markets that exist, so the movements themselves can be said to not be completely random, however the timing is a completely different history, the timing is really random as the markets are nothing more but the average of the movements of all the economic actors, and it is impossible to be able to predict beforehand how each one of those actors are going to respond to the conditions of the market and the conditions of the economy at the time, and this is what makes trading so difficult, as we know the price will go up at some point on the future, but when and how high is something no one can answer with certainty.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on April 28, 2023, 12:35:27 PM

Of course, speculative is a sure thing in crypto trading because it is fast how investors get income because of 1 fast price. but not a few also fall there and then they feel they have failed in investing in crypto and then say this is a money game. here we have to be really observant in seeing the potential of a project to be able to generate or develop assets in the future.

Speculative people try to make a profit because they estimate where the price will move and speculate about the situation. But speculative will be successful if they can analyze market movements in the previous few days so that he can speculate. But if the speculation is to choose a potential project, we should not get our hopes up because one project can become a scam in the future. In addition, a project will look good at the start of its release, so we must be careful in choosing the project.

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Of course, speculative is a sure thing in crypto trading because it is fast how investors get income because of 1 fast price. but not a few also fall there and then they feel they have failed in investing in crypto and then say this is a money game. here we have to be really observant in seeing the potential of a project to be able to generate or develop assets in the future.

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Any newbie joining the crypto space now should have known that it is a speculative market. They might have being told when explaining to them about crypto or they might have used their mindset to assume so, since the price it was some years back is not the same today. They’ve been some upward and downward movement of prices since then due to volatility which cannot be predicted but only speculated on what the next move in price could be. This is one of the pivotal factors that newbies face after they’ve fully invested in cryptocurrency without having sufficient knowledge on its volatile nature. It has caused more disappointments than encouragement to newbies.

Speculative is a fair word to use, but the majority of newcomers don't actually get how the entire cryptocurrency market functions; all they are concerned with at the time is the profit, not comprehending the potential benefits of holding on, being patient, and having high expectations for the future. the interesting part is that newbies are always trying to predict the market whenever it is been manipulated, If everyone could genuinely invest the time to learn and comprehend the Bitcoin environment, it would be one that is interesting, instead of buying what you don't understand.

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