Topic: KNOWLEDGE IS BETTER THAN MERIT (Read 875 times)
If the purpose of joining the forum is to just get merits, one might end up abandoning the forum if the merits are not forthcoming but if you are here because you are eager to learn, there are a lot of eye opener that one can be exposed to and it makes one gain more knowledge. Sometimes, the topics seen here triggers me to make research and it has widened my knowledge about a lot of things. Merits would come when you do the right thing and the forum rules and regulations are strictly adhered to.
You are absolutely right.And I agree with you because without any knowledge about this forum and all about Cryptocurrency we can't be successful in Crypto. And if we have much knowledge we can be aware about crypto scams and make our funds secured also. Again as fer I know merit earning isn't so hard if we have helping nature in this forum.
I agree knowledge is better than merit, before I joined the forum, I first seek for knowledge of it no it were about and after that when I started I Began to experience so many things. my first post was deleted I have to read the rules again, my second post I got a merit that is power of knowledge.
Yes you are right Op, we all know that knowledge is better than anything.
Here in our community/forum it's better that you are knowledgeable, even if your ranks will still newbie but you have a farther knowledge I think you are ahead /better of those legendary members who have little knowledge.
If you have more knowledge and then merits will follow you and it's easy to get.
Zero knowledge Less merits
More knowledge more merits
Here in our community/forum it's better that you are knowledgeable, even if your ranks will still newbie but you have a farther knowledge I think you are ahead /better of those legendary members who have little knowledge.
If you have more knowledge and then merits will follow you and it's easy to get.
Zero knowledge Less merits
More knowledge more merits
Even the poster longs for a couple of merits 
We'll, it's actually true but merits isn't a deal or commodity that you obtain from others for money or sort of...
Merit is like a form of appreciation, congratulations or accolades for a post or thread well written; it serves as a motivation to everyone including DT members themselves.. anyone that gets merited for a post develops the urge to make more constructive post,yeah..but you're looking at merit like something you shouldn't need or something you should reject if you're given..not so!
When you have this high intellect to make constructive post, there's no how you can avoid merits; they'll come on their own
We'll, it's actually true but merits isn't a deal or commodity that you obtain from others for money or sort of...
Merit is like a form of appreciation, congratulations or accolades for a post or thread well written; it serves as a motivation to everyone including DT members themselves.. anyone that gets merited for a post develops the urge to make more constructive post,yeah..but you're looking at merit like something you shouldn't need or something you should reject if you're given..not so!
When you have this high intellect to make constructive post, there's no how you can avoid merits; they'll come on their own
Yes, agree. Knowledge is more important. We cannot achieve our goals in the absence of proper knowledge.
Without this, you may have to face financial losses as well as disappointment. So it's mandatory to first learn by acquiring proper knowledge and training than to work.
Without this, you may have to face financial losses as well as disappointment. So it's mandatory to first learn by acquiring proper knowledge and training than to work.
Implementation of merits into the forum made it possible for people to deep further into the findings of crypto. No more gibberish posts just to rank up. Knowledge about crypto is good but the number of merits gotten tells us how you have made an impact in the forum positively.
If it is all about grabbing the knowledge about crypto, what's the need of contributing to this forum. We would have all been reading posts. What does come to newbies minds is to get merit first before the knowledge
If it is all about grabbing the knowledge about crypto, what's the need of contributing to this forum. We would have all been reading posts. What does come to newbies minds is to get merit first before the knowledge
Yes Knowledge is much better than merit. Knowledge is the first thing that can bring all merit, with no Knowledge no real merit. Knowledge is just the main thing to grow, Knowledge is like food man feeds on to grow.
The merit system really helped people to improve their posting quality. I am always glad to see people posting about how merit system makes them improve their posting quality.
Of course, I'm very grateful for all the support I've get so far, whether by sending me merit or with constructive suggestion. Regardless of whether people provide me merit or not then I just want to use the forum longer than anything I've ever had at the time and by improving the quality of my post I think I can achieve this wish.To be honest I've been pushing myself to improve post quality because so far quite a number of my post have been deleted due to spam, I've had temporary ban before and I thought this was an opportunity for me to do better if I wanted to use the forum longer. I hope this can be a good basis for me though I'm embarrassed to tell you guys. But an increase like this is expected even though I believe merit and rank are not easy things for me to achieve in a short time.
Ok I can only support your efforts and intention but in the end you have your own way to decide.
Well, I'm glad to hear that. 
The definite step I have taken so far is to make sure that each post I make is much more useful than the previous one and that has given me some merit so far. So when I started ignoring quantity (post count is zero), then I started to feel like this merit system was working for me.
The merit system is meant to encourage every user to improve the quality of posts, it's up to who you are and how long you've been in this forum but if you don't have a Legendary rank then you need merit to achieve it and one of the condition is that you have to have quality or useful post. I'm sure sooner or later I'll be able to rank up like most of the good posters here.
It's a sure thing but everyone can say anything but if they don't have consistency and effort then it will only slow down the achievement. I may not need to suggest much on how you should be able to achieve quality posts because you are one of the old members here, but it is not impossible that you also still have a lot to learn if you were previously a spammer. Ok I can only support your efforts and intention but in the end you have your own way to decide.Quote
KNOWLEDGE IS BETTER THAN MERIT
Knowledge cant be compared with merit because basically these two things are completely different. Knowledge will only help you get merit if you have the desire to apply it in a post. People may say that they don't care about merit or rank, but honestly they know how the merit and rank system works so without thinking about it they can get merit and rank up.
A worthy message to the newcomers of the forum, there will be nothing without knowledge, you need to study a lot yourself, it will not come by itself, and most importantly there should be a desire for all this, without this nothing will happen.
Previously I didn't really care about the merit system because I only focused on the quantity rather than the quality of my posts.
The merit system really helped people to improve their posting quality. I am always glad to see people posting about how merit system makes them improve their posting quality.Why newbie? Yes I think they are much easier to get merit even when they post for the first time in this forum after registering than me as a old member.
Newbies do not receive merit like established members, but very few that read, understand and get more acquainted with this forum, rather than focusing on only posting and joining a campaign always find it easy to rank up. But unfortunately, most of the newbies are not after posting quality, but the ones that focus on quality post achieve ranking up as fast as possible. My observation. <…>
That’s not really currently technically feasible with good results, and even if it were (hypothetically), it would still be the criteria of a conceptually centralized entity, as opposed to a potentially diverse and multiple criteria through forum members (granted that there is a lack of further diversity that many would like).Conceptually speaking, the overall goal should be that a decent enough poster manages to rank-up at, more or less, the same pace as before the Merit System was introduced. That equates to, roughly, earning one Merit per day on average (a bit more on once transiting from Hero to Legendary). Whilst this is feasible for quite a few (whom often place quite a bit of effort and time), the majority of accounts do struggle, but no conceptual bot type AI would aid too much here, lest it should establish a low bar for meriting, thus prioritizing numbers and quotas over content.
The definite step I have taken so far is to make sure that each post I make is much more useful than the previous one and that has given me some merit so far. So when I started ignoring quantity (post count is zero), then I started to feel like this merit system was working for me. I'm sure sooner or later I'll be able to rank up like most of the good posters here. Even though the OP has been inactive since 11 September but I can tell him that the merit and knowledge system will continue to be tied to each other when a poster can share his knowledge with this community.
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That’s not really currently technically feasible with good results, and even if it were (hypothetically), it would still be the criteria of a conceptually centralized entity, as opposed to a potentially diverse and multiple criteria through forum members (granted that there is a lack of further diversity that many would like).Conceptually speaking, the overall goal should be that a decent enough poster manages to rank-up at, more or less, the same pace as before the Merit System was introduced. That equates to, roughly, earning one Merit per day on average (a bit more on once transiting from Hero to Legendary). Whilst this is feasible for quite a few (whom often place quite a bit of effort and time), the majority of accounts do struggle, but no conceptual bot type AI would aid too much here, lest it should establish a low bar for meriting, thus prioritizing numbers and quotas over content.
This very title of your post screams that you care about merits.
Both merit and knowledge are good... It is not enough to be X, you must seem it too. I have been witness many times on how newbies posts are obviated from a general discussion because of their rank, although their input was interesting. And if knowledge is better, at least it is not so easily measurable, and bounty managers won't be digging on how much you know in order to participate in their campaigns.
Merits and Knowledge has different use case. You can earn merit by having knowledge but you can't earn knowledge by just having merit here since merit is just a token of appreciation from a person that thinks your post is helpful to him. Simply merits is very subjective while you can have general knowledge without earning merits.
Many new are striving to earn merits by recycling others useful idea. The post is useful but since its repetitive, They will not gonna get merit out of it since merit sender think that it just an old idea.
In this forum, there's a lot of information we can get and can use that knowledge to spread awareness and share essential information. In getting merits different persons have their different perspectives so that's why they give some merit to those they think they deserve well we have our merit sources that if they think it's qualified its deserved to get. If you are already knowledgeable member merit is not a problem because it will follow most of the quality posters already got tons of merit helps them to rank up.
CONCLUSION
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits. Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits. Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
Cant agree more. Merit is subjective thing i.e. it follows automatically when you post something which is about sharing knowledge, answering some questions etc. You cant ask someone to give you merits, it will find you eventually. Best way to get merits is to see which posts are getting merits. This will give you idea of what you have to post in order to get merits.
Both merit and knowledge are good... It is not enough to be X, you must seem it too. I have been witness many times on how newbies posts are obviated from a general discussion because of their rank, although their input was interesting. And if knowledge is better, at least it is not so easily measurable, and bounty managers won't be digging on how much you know in order to participate in their campaigns.
Merits and Knowledge has different use case. You can earn merit by having knowledge but you can't earn knowledge by just having merit here since merit is just a token of appreciation from a person that thinks your post is helpful to him. Simply merits is very subjective while you can have general knowledge without earning merits.
Many new are striving to earn merits by recycling others useful idea. The post is useful but since its repetitive, They will not gonna get merit out of it since merit sender think that it just an old idea.
Both merit and knowledge are good... It is not enough to be X, you must seem it too. I have been witness many times on how newbies posts are obviated from a general discussion because of their rank, although their input was interesting. And if knowledge is better, at least it is not so easily measurable, and bounty managers won't be digging on how much you know in order to participate in their campaigns.
Merits is the reward for the knowledge one has acquired, so like OP has rightly said, forget about getting merits and focus on acquiring knowledge, when you've acquired the right knowledge and you're able to appropriately disseminate the information in your possession then definitely the merits will eventually come.
Seeking for knowledge and sharing them should be your major concern in the forum. With lots of effort, hard work and dedication you will be appreciated when your work is genuine, unique and useful while avoiding plagiarism meits will definitely roll in.
Knowledge is the basic.
Whenever we are, getting knowledge by learning is a must in order to understand more about what we are doing, to be ready with this, and also to really care about our concern.
Knowledge will be useful if we can implement it or spread or give it also to other people.
And knowledge will not be better if we only keep it by ourselves in our minds.
Merit is such a reward of how we can utter the knowledge in the right place, right topic, informative, and also people like how you realize it in what you write here. So, just do as best as you can.
Whenever we are, getting knowledge by learning is a must in order to understand more about what we are doing, to be ready with this, and also to really care about our concern.
Knowledge will be useful if we can implement it or spread or give it also to other people.
And knowledge will not be better if we only keep it by ourselves in our minds.
Merit is such a reward of how we can utter the knowledge in the right place, right topic, informative, and also people like how you realize it in what you write here. So, just do as best as you can.
I think is very obvious what you are also after, I believe all what you just wrote is just a story you are also looking for merit and I think one person have given you atleast you have gotten what you want right. Your topic is really making sense and it's interesting which I believe people to source for knowledge and not merit, but from your right up I believe you are also begging for merit.
The first post I made on this forum was a post of my introduction and also my set aside goals I want to achieve on the forum.
I got from the reply enough advise, Knowledge and guidance
Like Frequent asked questions https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177
And rules guiding the forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
that has been very useful to me so far and I know if I continue to abide by them I will keep on going in the right track.
With that said, Prior to my first post I never had any interest or any excitement of merits, in fact I had basic knowledge of it but as I found out I got more than 10merits on that particular post.
I found out about merits from posts I see from Newbie's like me searching and crying for merits, saying merits are not shared properly, or wanting to know about merits so soon without even participating in the forum or reading the forums rules and regulations.
Citing myself as an example with my first post on the forum, I have come to realise that searching for knowledge should come first before any other thing in the forum.
CONCLUSION
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits. Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
I got from the reply enough advise, Knowledge and guidance
Like Frequent asked questions https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177
And rules guiding the forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
that has been very useful to me so far and I know if I continue to abide by them I will keep on going in the right track.
With that said, Prior to my first post I never had any interest or any excitement of merits, in fact I had basic knowledge of it but as I found out I got more than 10merits on that particular post.
I found out about merits from posts I see from Newbie's like me searching and crying for merits, saying merits are not shared properly, or wanting to know about merits so soon without even participating in the forum or reading the forums rules and regulations.
Citing myself as an example with my first post on the forum, I have come to realise that searching for knowledge should come first before any other thing in the forum.
CONCLUSION
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits. Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
Personal perception is what drives you to this I guess, but
am sure also that others do not have the same mindset that
you had, so to you "KNOWLEDGE" is the greatest, while to
others the merit and other incentives are the vital aspects why they are here.
So what drives to get merit is not a matter but only how many merits are earned is a matter. The requirement to move up to next position is highly expected and looked up on as this is what will help earn more here especially from signature campaigns. Knowledge on what we are discussing and sharing is really as important as merits. As we all share our knowledge here and that is the main key to earn here I am sure. So both should go hand in hand.
The first post I made on this forum was a post of my introduction and also my set aside goals I want to achieve on the forum.
I got from the reply enough advise, Knowledge and guidance
Like Frequent asked questions https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177
And rules guiding the forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
that has been very useful to me so far and I know if I continue to abide by them I will keep on going in the right track.
With that said, Prior to my first post I never had any interest or any excitement of merits, in fact I had basic knowledge of it but as I found out I got more than 10merits on that particular post.
I found out about merits from posts I see from Newbie's like me searching and crying for merits, saying merits are not shared properly, or wanting to know about merits so soon without even participating in the forum or reading the forums rules and regulations.
Citing myself as an example with my first post on the forum, I have come to realise that searching for knowledge should come first before any other thing in the forum.
CONCLUSION
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits. Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
I got from the reply enough advise, Knowledge and guidance
Like Frequent asked questions https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177
And rules guiding the forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
that has been very useful to me so far and I know if I continue to abide by them I will keep on going in the right track.
With that said, Prior to my first post I never had any interest or any excitement of merits, in fact I had basic knowledge of it but as I found out I got more than 10merits on that particular post.
I found out about merits from posts I see from Newbie's like me searching and crying for merits, saying merits are not shared properly, or wanting to know about merits so soon without even participating in the forum or reading the forums rules and regulations.
Citing myself as an example with my first post on the forum, I have come to realise that searching for knowledge should come first before any other thing in the forum.
CONCLUSION
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits. Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
Personal perception is what drives you to this I guess, but
am sure also that others do not have the same mindset that
you had, so to you "KNOWLEDGE" is the greatest, while to
others the merit and other incentives are the vital aspects why they are here.
Definitely yes of course. Knowledge is far more better than merit my dear friend. Because what merit can not do, knowledge does it far more better.
And here are my analytics about MERIT and KNOWLEDGE
1. With Merit you can only earn on this forum alone, but with knowledge you can both earn on this forum and outside this forum (I.e offering solution to those in need in our crypto community)
2. With Merit you are allowed to access certain features on the forum (posting images & e.t.c) but with knowledge you can both be of great value to those on this forum and the crypto community at large.
So with this two points of mind, it is advisable to first seek for knowledge before merit. But thou both are important, but first thing first..
Thanks.
And here are my analytics about MERIT and KNOWLEDGE
1. With Merit you can only earn on this forum alone, but with knowledge you can both earn on this forum and outside this forum (I.e offering solution to those in need in our crypto community)
2. With Merit you are allowed to access certain features on the forum (posting images & e.t.c) but with knowledge you can both be of great value to those on this forum and the crypto community at large.
So with this two points of mind, it is advisable to first seek for knowledge before merit. But thou both are important, but first thing first..
Thanks.
It’s no good to have a mindset in keep contributing to this forum just to earn merits. Remember, merits are just bonuses if your post has great value no matter if it’s short or long. Of course, most of the newbies and beginners here are having that mindset of “posting for merits”. It’s better to stop thinking about that and instead start posting or contributing here on the forum without any expectations in return. You’ll just be blessed if your post got merited, and it’s a great bonus. Your journey will be all worth it if you keep contributing without thinking about the merits.
Mostly those people think about always getting that when they post a what they think good content to always get a merit to rank up and maybe they shouldn't stress theirselves by looking at their post since at the end of the day if there's someone will like the idea they give as if its helpful to the.community then that one will follow but forum users really need to focus on the ideas the can get on this forum since those ideas are more helpful to them since they can put food in their tables with the ideas they can get rather than those merits.
It’s no good to have a mindset in keep contributing to this forum just to earn merits. Remember, merits are just bonuses if your post has great value no matter if it’s short or long. Of course, most of the newbies and beginners here are having that mindset of “posting for merits”. It’s better to stop thinking about that and instead start posting or contributing here on the forum without any expectations in return. You’ll just be blessed if your post got merited, and it’s a great bonus. Your journey will be all worth it if you keep contributing without thinking about the merits.
Everyone here knows what you have stated that 'knowledge is better than merit' but merit is more run after than knowledge because most forum users are in a haste to cross over to the next rank and then join a campaign. Only if people will slow down a bit and do more research work before posting. You got 10 merits on your first post because of how you presented your post as someone who wants to learn and not because you shared anything vital there.
You sounds like you already know what merits are use for and I'm surprised that this your post looks on point. Well knowledge is power! Power can bring merit and create opportunities for one which is the sole reasons why we are all learning everyday. Once you stop learning them knowledge will be diminishing without cos. For me, I tend not to compare the two words cos merit is just a compliment for writing a quality posts... simple!
Yeah,exactly! Instead of one to seek for money,I think knowledge should be the first thing that man should seek for,and when he has gotten knowledge,every other thing including money shall be added into it.Knowledge is the mental ability of an individual in relation to the things he learns and experiences in life.
Knowledge gives strength and confidence,and instills stability in ones mind.
You sounds like you already know what merits are use for and I'm surprised that this your post looks on point. Well knowledge is power! Power can bring merit and create opportunities for one which is the sole reasons why we are all learning everyday. Once you stop learning them knowledge will be diminishing without cos. For me, I tend not to compare the two words cos merit is just a compliment for writing a quality posts... simple!
In fact, there is nothing wrong with that. The task of any merit source is to evaluate useful posts and ... that's it. We do not guarantee that the user to whom we have sent merit will always adhere to the rules. I believe that it is worth worrying only if you sent merit to posts containing plagiarism. Then you should work on your attentiveness and more carefully check the posting of users before evaluating it.
I watched you want to motivate newbies for a while as you gave them 1 or more merit. Believe me, it was just for fun, nothing more. And I understood your motives very well. But since you yourself said it out loud, then for a quick check you can simply add an extension from prepostseo, or sometimes check the texts from newbies creating themes.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3211920
These people do not want to accept or read the rules, but they quickly learn from whom and how to get merit. By creating new topics, there is a better chance of earning merits.
I often complained about plagiarism from newcomers. And you can also understand that not everyone is ready to check any texts, since they do not have time for such checks. But sometimes it makes sense and also teaches others not to abuse trust and start thinking and writing for themselves.
Firstly I would like to say I am also doing my personal work on plagiarism, I'm not too good in that. I want to understand more so that I cannot take someone else's content and use it as mine that's why the little I can give that's what I give.
I will tell you a very simple trick on how to avoid plagiarism, and not later cry for the fact that there was a ban.
Just write. Don't look anywhere at other sources, don't copy from anywhere, close all pages, and write your post. I doubt that it is possible to fully remember something exactly with the original so that later it would pass for plagiarism (I exclude memorization). Write in your own words what you think, ask, do not try to be what you are not.
What you said is a bit complicated, just indicate the source and add a link.
You obviously need to know what you are talking about to get merited. You need to sound knowledgeable and professional to be taken seriously. But even people that don't know a lot have managed to gain plenty of merits. What you don't have in the knowledge and experience department, you can always make up by being helpful, respectful, and eager to research and learn.
Getting merits is not a tough as well as not an easy task and for that you must have knowledge to share with others which can be in any field like technical, non-technical, economic, political and other boards available on the forum.You can share good and relevant information in the topics and if someone find it suitable and useful you will be merited for the same and even if you are indulging yourself in some healthy discussion even if you are not sharing something like a newbies sharing his idea or any technical questions which promotes healthy discussion on the forum comes under merit criteria as seen in many cases.You are right that some members lack knowledge but it does not imply that they don't have any knowledge of bitcoin or crypto market at all but simply know the basics and Normal stuff.They might be having some other related information to share with other members but the whole concept is that you must be sharing, learning good information on the forum and this should be primary motive of the members and your secondary goal of merits will be fulfilled with accomplishment of the first one.
The knowledge is what brings the merits, if you observe what's ongoing in the forum, you'll realize that those that are knowledgeable in specific areas are those who get merited easily because they tend to produce more quality content based on their exposure in that area. What that means is, if you want to get merited, get yourself educated.
You obviously need to know what you are talking about to get merited. You need to sound knowledgeable and professional to be taken seriously. But even people that don't know a lot have managed to gain plenty of merits. What you don't have in the knowledge and experience department, you can always make up by being helpful, respectful, and eager to research and learn.
Wow it is very good to see you are newbie and you got a lot of merits means that you are working hard and your and focus on your goal. You are absolutely right, newbies should learn first how this things work, make quality post and be thirsty for knowledge. Still it is hard for me earning merit, I should mainly focus on understanding and exploring this forum and maximize everything I will learn.
Newbie account talking about knowledge>merit, which looks to me like yet another merit fishing attempt.
Dunno, maybe I am wrong and I am just too paranoid, but I smell BS here.
Dunno, maybe I am wrong and I am just too paranoid, but I smell BS here.
Yes, it's already so tiring to see the same repetitive posts from newbies that praise this forum as some grand temple of knowledge when really it's just an online forum about Bitcoin. I wouldn't recommend anyone to start their Bitcoin journey only from here, there's a lot of structured educational materials about Bitcoin, while here you will mostly find some personal opinions. And all these questions that newbies keep asking here every day like "what happens when the last bitcoin is mined" can so easily be googled, yet people find it easier to create a topic on this forum.
It's good to see that the members of this forum can see through the merit baiting.
Knowledge and Skills are the two keys to achieve success in trading. If you wish to obtain success in the same, you need adequate knowledge.
In fact, there is nothing wrong with that. The task of any merit source is to evaluate useful posts and ... that's it. We do not guarantee that the user to whom we have sent merit will always adhere to the rules. I believe that it is worth worrying only if you sent merit to posts containing plagiarism. Then you should work on your attentiveness and more carefully check the posting of users before evaluating it.
Please note that all the plagiarised content was posted in the gambling section, where I didn’t even know it existed, let alone read it or merit it…
Any other content I merited on both profiles wasn’t plagiarised, at least to my knowledge.
Enough for this, let’s not derail too much this thread anymore.
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Actually, your overall ratios are good, considering all the awarded sMerits (as of last Friday):
- Overall sent sMerits: 15048 to 873 users
- Overall sent sMerits to banned users: 459 to 19 users
Damn! I sent 335 merits to acquafredda and 87 to Karartma1, for a total of 422 merits to banned users out of 459. 92% of merits to those two profiles only.
I reckon he was a very knowledgeable user, and I don’t know why he plagiarised content on the gambling section (where I have never set foot). So I think the merits I sent were done because he/she wrote something useful, but I am so upset about this lack of respect to the forum community…and made me top a chart I didn’t mean to.
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Actually, your overall ratios are good, considering all the awarded sMerits (as of last Friday):
- Overall sent sMerits: 15048 to 873 users
- Overall sent sMerits to banned users: 459 to 19 users
- Overall Merited later to be banned users: 2,18%
- Overall sMerits sent to later to be banned users: 3,05%
(last 180 days counting from last Friday backwords – not exactly the same as current forum stat therefore):
- 180d sent sMerits: 4553 to 330 users
- 180d sent sMerits to banned users: 235 to 8 users
- 180d Merited later to be banned users: 2,42%
- 180d sMerits sent to later to be banned users: 5,16%
Me:
- Overall sent sMerits: 13771 to 1565 users
- Overall sent sMerits to banned users: 197 to 62 users
- Overall Merited later to be banned users: 3,96%
- Overall sMerits sent to later to be banned users: 1,43%
(last 180 days counting from last Friday backwords – not exactly the same as current forum stat therefore):
- 180d sent sMerits: 3088 to 419 users
- 180d sent sMerits to banned users: 42 to 7 users
- 180d Merited later to be banned users: 1,67%
- 180d sMerits sent to later to be banned users: 1,36%
I left everyone’s ratios here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DlUgqQhy6VSMMUufCUM1lPcyi-kI1EUGzXDHymrlOd0/edit?usp=sharing
So
Note: Banned users derived from @LoyceV’s weekly updates.
My guess is that those accounts that got banned is because of plagiarism. No doubt about it.
Exactly, As reported in the links, both acquafredda and Kartama1 were discovered not only plagiarising, but also being alts of the same person!
I exchanged posts and merited multiple times acquafredda, and I reckon he was always providing good bitcoin-related content for the Italian board.
I also crossed the path with Kartama1, always in international boards, never had any suspicion about him being Italian, nevertheless being an alt of someone.
I didn’t bother to count or check closely on @loucev website, but I guess that the cumulated merits to those two profiles add up quite nicely to the total in @ddmrddmr chart above.
I am surprised and saddened by this, but forum rules are forum rules, and a legendary user (!!!) should know them. Actually, acquafredda being a legendary user, make all this story a little bit harsher.
Back on topic, I guess surely merits come way before merits, both on a temporal and on a logical timeline.
I expressed my view on my infamous thread:
Ranking up is possible! 2900 Merits earned in less than 12 months!My 11 Hints!
I think it’s is still a good read.
Didn't I just mention it in my first reply in this thread that knowledge is somewhat the KEY to open a door where in this case is to receive or earn merit?. I guess newbies don't really want to read first page of this thread instead only reading the op or the last post. After all, it's what keep spammers at bay.
Nevertheless, I am quite surprised topping this chart I ne we actually cared about as I tought i wasn’t involved in.
A little busy with IRL stuff atm, I’m going to figure out what happened.
My guess is that those accounts that got banned is because of plagiarism. No doubt about it. A little busy with IRL stuff atm, I’m going to figure out what happened.
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Top senders to permabanned users, last 180 days
• 235: fillippone
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendban• 235: fillippone
Note: The focus above is on the Receivers on (s)Merits, that at some later point get banned for whatever reason. The Senders are generally faultless in the above context. The more people they try to merit, the likelier to hit someone that is going to ultimately be banned (specially, unfortunately, if the merited profile is of a lower rank).
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To exemplify that receiving merits does now warrant getting to know your way around, and getting banned is still an open option regardless (in the context of @Gboyalhaji’s comment).Nevertheless, I am quite surprised topping this chart I never actually cared about as I tought I wasn’t involved in.
A little busy with IRL stuff atm, I’m going to figure out what happened.
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Turns out acquafredda and karatma1, two profiles I had merited a lot recently, got banned.
legendary
Activity: 2408
Merit: 4282
eXch.cx - Automatic crypto Swap Exchange.
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits.
The knowledge is what brings the merits, if you observe what's ongoing in the forum, you'll realize that those that are knowledgeable in specific areas are those who get merited easily because they tend to produce more quality content based on their exposure in that area. What that means is, if you want to get merited, get yourself educated.
If you try the cheat this phenomenon by plagiarizing or paraphrasing then it'll come back to hurt you later as you'll most likely get banned. Don't focus on getting merited instead focus on getting educated and also helping others with their education process in regards to their questions and you'll be merited. Merits are reward for your quality contributions so if you don't have such you won't be merited.
Yes you are right knowledge is better than merit. And you should add one more sentence which is if you can share knowledgeable thing you don't need to do anything to get merit then merit will come to you. So what do you thing am i right or not. Lots of new friends of my community ask me that how i get that much amout of merit but why they can't get. I suggest them do not post anything irrelevant, try to discussed more with constractive topic, and i follow my path my first 5-6 month i just spend my times to read post then reply. Thats why now i can easily understand any topic and share my thoughts about that. Thats why i got merit.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendban
Note: The focus above is on the Receivers on (s)Merits, that at some later point get banned for whatever reason. The Senders are generally faultless in the above context. The more people they try to merit, the likelier to hit someone that is going to ultimately be banned (specially, unfortunately, if the merited profile is of a lower rank).
I agree with you, who sends merits cannot know if the person will be banned in the future (he is responsible for it)
so I don't understand the reason for the list you link
it makes no sense, in my opinion, but everyone is free to do what he wants
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Yes because your mission here in the first is to understand how it going in this forum and learn the rule and regulations <…>
It’s not really a mission, but rather a courtesy call (self-preservation at times too). Most are pretty logical and natural to comply with, even if you don’t read them to begin with. Unfortunately, it seems that it’s not something people always do (I took a while), and even if they get merited, either their past catches-up, or they lose sight of some of the basis, as this stat seems to suggest:
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Top senders to permabanned users, last 180 days
• 235: fillippone
• 100: Ratimov
• 57: CryptopreneurBrainboss
• 45: Welsh
• 42: DdmrDdmr
• 38: LoyceV
• 32: JayJuanGee
• 29: ETFbitcoin
• 25: OgNasty
• 21: The Pharmacist
• 20: hugeblack
• 18: Vispilio
• 15: Rruchi man
• 14: Plutosky
• 14: alexrossi
• 13: vapourminer
• 11: Quickseller
• 11: COOLCRYPTOVATOR
• 11: amishmanish
• 10: lovesmayfamilis
• 10: bitmover
• 10: paxmao
• 10: xandry
• 10: dbc23
• 10: Qunenin
• 10: NotATether
• 9: Pmalek
• 8: o_e_l_e_o
• 8: Halab
• 8: Mpamaegbu
• 8: RainbowKun
• 7: Jet Cash
• 7: CryptocurencyKing
• 6: Zilon
• 6: El duderino_
• 6: GeorgeJohn
• 6: Daniel91
• 6: cherry11800
• 6: PrimeNumber7
• 6: kxwhalexk
• 6: LFC_Bitcoin
• 5: Smartvirus
• 5: nakamura12
• 5: klarki
• 5: gbianchi
• 4: babo
• 4: sheenshane
• 4: Magicalking
• 4: kaggie
• 4: Ethan151
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendban• 235: fillippone
• 100: Ratimov
• 57: CryptopreneurBrainboss
• 45: Welsh
• 42: DdmrDdmr
• 38: LoyceV
• 32: JayJuanGee
• 29: ETFbitcoin
• 25: OgNasty
• 21: The Pharmacist
• 20: hugeblack
• 18: Vispilio
• 15: Rruchi man
• 14: Plutosky
• 14: alexrossi
• 13: vapourminer
• 11: Quickseller
• 11: COOLCRYPTOVATOR
• 11: amishmanish
• 10: lovesmayfamilis
• 10: bitmover
• 10: paxmao
• 10: xandry
• 10: dbc23
• 10: Qunenin
• 10: NotATether
• 9: Pmalek
• 8: o_e_l_e_o
• 8: Halab
• 8: Mpamaegbu
• 8: RainbowKun
• 7: Jet Cash
• 7: CryptocurencyKing
• 6: Zilon
• 6: El duderino_
• 6: GeorgeJohn
• 6: Daniel91
• 6: cherry11800
• 6: PrimeNumber7
• 6: kxwhalexk
• 6: LFC_Bitcoin
• 5: Smartvirus
• 5: nakamura12
• 5: klarki
• 5: gbianchi
• 4: babo
• 4: sheenshane
• 4: Magicalking
• 4: kaggie
• 4: Ethan151
Note: The focus above is on the Receivers on (s)Merits, that at some later point get banned for whatever reason. The Senders are generally faultless in the above context. The more people they try to merit, the likelier to hit someone that is going to ultimately be banned (specially, unfortunately, if the merited profile is of a lower rank).
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To exemplify that receiving merits does now warrant getting to know your way around, and getting banned is still an open option regardless (in the context of @Gboyalhaji’s comment).
Many people created an account and continuously asking how to get merit because they want to be part of signature/bounty campaigns and those just want to spam only and to earn some of them they don't really care to make a contribution to the forum, in some instances there are members would like to share, help and contribute to the forum even though they are still on the lower rank the quality of the post they have deserves to be merited. This is the reason why there are some merit sources created a thread to let them help give merits to the right ones. If you are a quality member merit is just easy to get, don't chase merit, merit will come if they think deserved it.
Knowledge should be the main focus for all newcomers. Now, I know that hunting for sig campains and playing day trader is more atractive, but in the long run, getting a good knowledge base is what will help you remain here for a long time to come. And that's the main thing, to make this a lifelong interest, not a weekend hobby.
Exactly! Some new members are not here to gain knowledge,they are basically here for signature campaign.Most of them don't also read what's in the forum,all that's very important to them is ranking up.Having a good knowledge about how the activities here are done,and making sure that the contributions made by you are very reasonable enough.
Researching for new ideas,things that you donot understand,and asking questions in the forum in the area that seems complicating to you,will help you gain more knowledge,and make you important in the forum, than ranking up.
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits. Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
Giving time to gather some knowledge is like investing, it is really good in the long run.
In general, knowledge is extremely important and should be prioritized because it is the factor that will make you more successful in your endeavors.
CONCLUSION
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits. Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
Yes and that should always be the case, knowledge is education and we should cherish education, merits can be requested and there are reports that some people are selling it, you cannot advance and make a profit from Cryptocurrency if you have no knowledge about Cryptocurrency, you also need knowledge on how to protect your portfolio from hacking and market trend.
This forum uses merit to judge an individual. The merit system is used by humans and not all knowledge posts receive merit. People send it in because they feel it's worth it. Maybe just a meme or beautifully arranged sentences...
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits. Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
Giving time to gather some knowledge is like investing, it is really good in the long run.
Knowledge should be the main focus for all newcomers. Now, I know that hunting for sig campains and playing day trader is more atractive, but in the long run, getting a good knowledge base is what will help you remain here for a long time to come. And that's the main thing, to make this a lifelong interest, not a weekend hobby.
yes, the more you learn, the more you understand crypto and the more you invest in the right product. scams are increasing and making the right choice can save you a lot. Also i don't think merit pays much here. majority of the people that goes for merits are bounty hunters that hunt for bounties with bitcoin payment. i think when you are knowledgeable enough, you will make huge money from crypto. that is possible. it depends on choice.
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Having merits to be implemented first before ranking up is a huge help actually to help spammers or those who shitpost just to rank up faster. Back in the days, chronic account selling is the reason why spammers or bot keep popping up almost everyday that's why sometimes the forum can't take the loads of these and sometimes undergo on a maintenance for a couple of minutes or even an hour if I'm right.~
Back then I read that it wasn't that frowned upon too much, but due to hordes of spammers it became like something worthy to be tagged by DT members. Back in the year that I registered here (2017) I recall a lot of accounts selling happening in here which is just insane. I am happy that merit system took care of that for goodness sake.
Moving forward, the last account selling I ever read this year is just from that donator account that put his account for sale.
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits. Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
Congratulations for making this far! Always celebrate the small achievements because this will give you the motivation to do better on your next post!
Merits are the collateral of a good post. If you contribute in the forum enough that people will appreciate it, you would be getting lots of merits without even noticing it. The problem with most newbies is that they are too focused on ranking up that their post quality suffers during the process. If you focus more on gaining knowledge and sharing them, the collateral would be the merits that you will be receiving.
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Surely if merits does not affect rank, there would be no such thing as like that back then as we all know that there are just those users that are just here in the forum for the sake of earning.
Having merits to be implemented first before ranking up is a huge help actually to help spammers or those who shitpost just to rank up faster. Back in the days, chronic account selling is the reason why spammers or bot keep popping up almost everyday that's why sometimes the forum can't take the loads of these and sometimes undergo on a maintenance for a couple of minutes or even an hour if I'm right.Surely if merits does not affect rank, there would be no such thing as like that back then as we all know that there are just those users that are just here in the forum for the sake of earning.
But if you are only here to learn then you can do all of that without having a problem since you just want to read more information about how cryptocurrency/Bitcoin made by Satoshi, and the white paper, etc., then that's not a problem just be sure to read carefully the stickies and ask first if confused.
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Same thoughts as yours actually. We've seen a lot of newbies shitposting in Meta back in 2018 when the merit system was implement. Good thing that those kinds of threads already "kind of" drained out, because surely they know that they're only for the merit and not actually looking for just a natural conversation without thinking of merits. Surely if merits does not affect rank, there would be no such thing as like that back then as we all know that there are just those users that are just here in the forum for the sake of earning.
Very well said OP.
Newbie members very often open topics in which they ask how to get merit.
My answer is always the same: learn, research and share your knowledge and experiences with other forum members.
Other members will appreciate your effort and time, and reward you with merits.
Those newbie members who first ask for merits and are not ready to offer anything in return, will receive neither measure nor respect from the forum community.
Newbie members very often open topics in which they ask how to get merit.
My answer is always the same: learn, research and share your knowledge and experiences with other forum members.
Other members will appreciate your effort and time, and reward you with merits.
Those newbie members who first ask for merits and are not ready to offer anything in return, will receive neither measure nor respect from the forum community.
They said knowledge is the principal thing. With knowledge Merit can be required. But not all merit are obtained by knowledge
OP you need to work on your quoting because we don't know who you're replying/responding to, you're quoting incorrectly. When using this quoting style, the first quote must include the author's name and a link. For reference, you can always look over my previous posts.
And here's some advice: we've had enough of Newbies' advice, which is becoming annoying because so many of them break their own rules, so it's time to get serious about what brought you to the forum. I'm sure you didn't sign up to teach us what we already know ( rules). The fun is finished, so get serious out there.
And here's some advice: we've had enough of Newbies' advice, which is becoming annoying because so many of them break their own rules, so it's time to get serious about what brought you to the forum. I'm sure you didn't sign up to teach us what we already know ( rules). The fun is finished, so get serious out there.
If newbies only focus on how to get merits then most probably they will regret it. It's true to become an established member of the forum merit is a mandatory part. Because merit determines the quality of your post and describes your contribution to the forum. If a newbie concentrate to learn and contribute to the forum in the right way, then merit will follow him. And suddenly claim as a good contributor and expect merit is unrealistic thought. It will take time to match ourselves with forum culture, especially for newbies. We don't know each other here, so your contribution will introduce you to us. This is my thought for newbies. Because I was a newbie once a time and I know how hard is to earn merit if you aren't a good contributor to the forum.
Plagiarism is not really something to be compared with the criminal act and if your school taught in that way then its wrong way, plagiarism is ethically wrong so no one should practice it but as long as they are giving credits to the original creator then its okay.
Also there is a lot of confusion between plagiarism and getting inspired by!
Also there is a lot of confusion between plagiarism and getting inspired by!
Then you should probably look up what the definition of "plagiarism" is because it seems like you're also confused in this case.
Posting with source/credit: sharing (not plagiarism, assuming properly cited)
Posting without source/credit: plagiarism (can definitely get you in serious problems, depending on local laws)
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1189
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I will tell you a very simple trick on how to avoid plagiarism, and not later cry for the fact that there was a ban.
Just write. Don't look anywhere at other sources, don't copy from anywhere, close all pages, and write your post. I doubt that it is possible to fully remember something exactly with the original so that later it would pass for plagiarism (I exclude memorization). Write in your own words what you think, ask, do not try to be what you are not.
Maybe this was the reason that he maybe read all post in that thread and try to type the idea what actually he got from the previous replies.
Merit system works properly after its kick-off in January 2018. More than 3 years and a half, it works to
If you see any complain that merit is distributed inappropriately, such complain mostly come from spammers / bounty hunters who have less or zero contributions. Without contribution, no merit.
Setting up this whole merit system have a particular aim and that goal have been achieved to some extent like spammers are not able to rank up to higher rank although they still make such posts but wasting their time on such posts as it won't benefit them.Many newbies and even high rank members leave the forum after the introduction of merit system because they were not able to make quality posts and there were restrictions on joining signature campaign with merits and the main purpose of those members got vanished and they left out.But all you have to do is knowledge sharing and keep the post quality high by sharing useful information with others and learning.You will eventually rewarded merit for them.- Help good members rank up
- be a barrier to prevent spammers to rank up
If you see any complain that merit is distributed inappropriately, such complain mostly come from spammers / bounty hunters who have less or zero contributions. Without contribution, no merit.
As mentioned by other members just add the source link and put anything you copy in quote and write the authors name also if possible which shows you are not claiming the wall of text your own and that would not come under any rule violations which you maybe familiar with.Post anything what is in your mind but don't spam up and share relevant information which will be beneficial for you.Rest choice is yours.
Firstly I would like to say I am also doing my personal work on plagiarism, I'm not too good in that. I want to understand more so that I cannot take someone else's content and use it as mine that's why the little I can give that's what I give.
I will tell you a very simple trick on how to avoid plagiarism, and not later cry for the fact that there was a ban.
Just write. Don't look anywhere at other sources, don't copy from anywhere, close all pages, and write your post. I doubt that it is possible to fully remember something exactly with the original so that later it would pass for plagiarism (I exclude memorization). Write in your own words what you think, ask, do not try to be what you are not.
You don't have to focus on earning merits after you have finished seeking knowledge about crypto space. My advise to you is you should continue seeking knowledge and learn then you try your best to help in any way you possibly know to help other people who are struggling to understand and learn then you'll get merits when you do it.
I found out about merits from posts I see from Newbie's like me searching and crying for merits, saying merits are not shared properly, or wanting to know about merits so soon without even participating in the forum or reading the forums rules and regulations.
Merit system works properly after its kick-off in January 2018. More than 3 years and a half, it works to- Help good members rank up
- be a barrier to prevent spammers to rank up
If you see any complain that merit is distributed inappropriately, such complain mostly come from spammers / bounty hunters who have less or zero contributions. Without contribution, no merit.
Please check out the advice from admin and my story as well as advice.
- Welcome message (I quoted important part)
- Promotion with merit system and new rank requirements. It's possible.
If you view the forum as some sort of "job" where you complete some basic tasks and get paid, then you will almost certainly be disappointed, and the forum administration will not be sympathetic. If you do make money using the forum, then it will be through innovation and entrepreneurship, not any sort of mindless busywork.
Forum rank
When you start out, you are a Newbie, and you will run into various annoying limits. These limits will be reduced to the point where you shouldn't usually notice them after you have participated in the forum for a few weeks. If you are on the forum to talk, then that's all you really need to know about rank. Don't worry about it too much, and you will eventually rank up.
If you want to maximize your rank, then you need to increase two statistics which are listed on your profile:
If you make ten thousand posts in a week, your activity will be capped and you will still be a Newbie. If you make ten thousand useless posts over any period of time, you will gain zero merit and you will still be a Newbie. You can rank up only by making good posts consistently. It's quality over quantity.
When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.
Forum rank
When you start out, you are a Newbie, and you will run into various annoying limits. These limits will be reduced to the point where you shouldn't usually notice them after you have participated in the forum for a few weeks. If you are on the forum to talk, then that's all you really need to know about rank. Don't worry about it too much, and you will eventually rank up.
If you want to maximize your rank, then you need to increase two statistics which are listed on your profile:
- Activity, which is maximized by posting once per day on average. Posting more than that is useless in raising your activity.
- Merit, which is gained by making good posts.
If you make ten thousand posts in a week, your activity will be capped and you will still be a Newbie. If you make ten thousand useless posts over any period of time, you will gain zero merit and you will still be a Newbie. You can rank up only by making good posts consistently. It's quality over quantity.
When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.
Another advice, your topic title is bad.
- You should not capitalize all words in the title like that.
- Please check below topics to improve your posting style
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Newbie account talking about knowledge>merit, which looks to me like yet another merit fishing attempt.
@Joy_learns_crypto is there any connection between you and EzeBitcoin2002, another newbie that came to Beginners & Help section looking for some easy merit, and plagiarizing while doing so. It's just that after I called him out for plagiarizing, he suddenly disappeared (probably expecting that I will report him which i forgot to do) and your account was created.
Dunno, maybe I am wrong and I am just too paranoid, but I smell BS here
Even before coming to this forum, in my school we have been taught about plagiarism in the research project we were given, they made it clear that its a criminal act to take another persons content and use it as mine.
To the accusation, I'm really shocked and speechless to say the least, I don't have anything or any link with anybody bearing Ezebitcoin and I don't see any resemblance between me and whoever the person is, so I would keep this brief and say no I am not Ezebitcoin and I don't have anything to do with the person.
Also there is a lot of confusion between plagiarism and getting inspired by!
<…> Firstly I would like to say I am also doing my personal work on plagiarism, I'm not too good in that. I want to understand more so that I cannot take someone else's content and use it as mine that's why the little I can give that's what I give. <…>
Just to reiterate briefly on the concept: plagiarism here is simply performed in 99,9% of the cases by people trying to cut corners. They don’t know much about something, they may also not be good at expressing themselves in the language, they may be in a rush to meet some campaign quota, or whatever, and voilà ... the person copies a text, or fragment of a text, and pastes it here to save time, or to pretend to know something he doesn’t. Now adding the correct reference link (I empathise correct, since I’ve seen people add a random link whilst copying the text from a different source) kind of gets you off the hook (perhaps not from the cero value post type report though).
The concept is trivial:
Avoid: Copy/[translate][spin]/paste.
Go for: Summary, criticism, question, versed opinion, and anything along this line (if need be).
Ideally, if you need to show something verbatim, include it a quote type structure. Add the source link.
I want to understand more so that I cannot take someone else's content and use it as mine that's why the little I can give that's what I give.
You can use others content when you make a post or thread , just insert the source link to it and write your stuff to it.Mostly Users get reported because they dont insert the Source link or where they got the content they have written.
Dunno, maybe I am wrong and I am just too paranoid, but I smell BS here.
I guess we will see it in the future if you paranoid or if you was right buddy Quote
Newbie account talking about knowledge>merit, which looks to me like yet another merit fishing attempt.
@Joy_learns_crypto is there any connection between you and EzeBitcoin2002, another newbie that came to Beginners & Help section looking for some easy merit, and plagiarizing while doing so. It's just that after I called him out for plagiarizing, he suddenly disappeared (probably expecting that I will report him which i forgot to do) and your account was created.
Dunno, maybe I am wrong and I am just too paranoid, but I smell BS here
Even before coming to this forum, in my school we have been taught about plagiarism in the research project we were given, they made it clear that its a criminal act to take another persons content and use it as mine.
To the accusation, I'm really shocked and speechless to say the least, I don't have anything or any link with anybody bearing Ezebitcoin and I don't see any resemblance between me and whoever the person is, so I would keep this brief and say no I am not Ezebitcoin and I don't have anything to do with the person.
Citing myself as an example with my first post on the forum, I have come to realise that searching for knowledge should come first before any other thing in the forum.
Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
True educating yourself should always comes first for you to know and learn about the forum but looking for merits is not a bad thing either. There are a lot of people who offers merits for newbies for them to help you.Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
Making high quality post is not that easy, it requires a lot of effort and a lot of knowledge but as long as you practice there's nothing to fear. You can always try.
Newbie account talking about knowledge>merit, which looks to me like yet another merit fishing attempt.
@Joy_learns_crypto is there any connection between you and EzeBitcoin2002, another newbie that came to Beginners & Help section looking for some easy merit, and plagiarizing while doing so. It's just that after I called him out for plagiarizing, he suddenly disappeared (probably expecting that I will report him which i forgot to do) and your account was created.
Dunno, maybe I am wrong and I am just too paranoid, but I smell BS here.
@Joy_learns_crypto is there any connection between you and EzeBitcoin2002, another newbie that came to Beginners & Help section looking for some easy merit, and plagiarizing while doing so. It's just that after I called him out for plagiarizing, he suddenly disappeared (probably expecting that I will report him which i forgot to do) and your account was created.
Dunno, maybe I am wrong and I am just too paranoid, but I smell BS here.
To be knowledgeable, obviously you need to learn. To be meritable, sometimes you just need to be a bit controversial or interfere with someone, even though you get no benefit from that other than harming other people. This forum has some odd sides that have tainted the true purpose of the merit system. I just hope you are not interested in these actions and stick to the principle that knowledge is your goal.
Unfortunately not everyone new to this forum wants to be like you. Says I joined here initially because I was invited to make money. But I realized it was wrong. I think most of the new members have a member doctrine here who is just looking for money.
In the end, the awareness you have for quality in writing will get the appreciation it deserves. But it definitely takes effort, there are no instant results.
In this forum you can grow or fall, you are in control, all members here already understand how to appreciate hard work and quality posts. So I think don't give up and keep trying even though I'm not as good as the seniors here in giving advice to you, because I'm still learning.
In the end, the awareness you have for quality in writing will get the appreciation it deserves. But it definitely takes effort, there are no instant results.
In this forum you can grow or fall, you are in control, all members here already understand how to appreciate hard work and quality posts. So I think don't give up and keep trying even though I'm not as good as the seniors here in giving advice to you, because I'm still learning.
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I think I remember you from your introductory post as the woman from South Africa who doesn't want to be tied to the kitchen, but wants to learn about Bitcoin. It's good to see that you are still around.
Its nice that you still remember me but I'm from West Africa not South Africa.Quote
When it comes to forum rules, there are just a few you need to keep in mind at all times. Don't plagiarize, don't spam with low effort and valueless posts, don't share links to viruses or phishing sites, and don't post multiple posts one after the other. Those are the things that can get you banned.
PLAGIARISMThese are some of the reasons newbie's plagiarise
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WHY NEWBIES PLAGERISE:
1. Unawareness of the consequences of plagiarism in the forum:
A user with the full understanding of the consequences of plagiarism in and outside this forum will likely not plagiarism. The victims of plagiarism are mostly people unaware of the severe consequences of plagiarism in this forum, these are mostly newer and lower ranking members.
2. Posting to impress:
When one begins to post to impress other users, he/she will tilt off his/her abilities. This will result to creating unnecessarily lengthy posts, and in the quest to maintain quality throughout the content, will result to plagiarism.
3. Little/No knowledge on the subject of discussion:
This very act results to an epileptic composition. Whenever, a user deviates from his/her core essence, he'll definitely steal to be relevant. This will lead to emergency research that will definitely birth plagiarism.
4. Hunting for merit:
When the purpose is no longer to discuss, learn and impact, the purpose is dead on arrival. In the hunt for merit, a user will unconsciously involve in spamming and plagiarism in order to get the desired goal(merit)
5. Not knowing methods or rules of citation:
Most users not only applicable to newbies may not know the conventions of citation(intext, outtext, quotations, inclusion of url). If a user don't know this, the issue of plagiarism will become secondary. Factually some users will make it a habit to copying someones work verbatim and in the end include citation, thinking it is right. I will be happy to see someone open a thread on the various ways of citation.
6. Lack of Confidence:
Self low esteem can lead to plagiarism. When you don't believe yourself let alone your work. When you feel everyone's work is better than yours, when you want to be everyone else. This will give you the conviction that you are second to all, hence you will tend to plagiarism to be standard.
7. Geographical differences:
As pointed out by @Lucius on my previous topic, he is of the opinion that why people plagiarism is how strict or lenient plagiarism is in their different countries.
Quote from: Lucius on July 28, 2021, 01:02:50 PM
I believe that there are big differences between people from different parts of the world regarding the perception of plagiarism - home and school education play a big role here.
8. Laziness:
Sometimes a plagarist will be aware of the crime he is about committing, but due to laziness to cite the authors, or emanate a fresh idea, he/she will deliberately plagiarise.
I think this will help Newbie's like me avoid plagiarism in the forum
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HOW TO AVOID PLAGIARISM:
1. Read the forum rules before posting:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7955645
2. Be Original:
One of the hardest thing to do in life is to live another man's version of life. If you toe this lane, you will end of being a learner throughout your stay here in the forum. When you are your original self, you will discover a part of you that other people will tend to plagiarise, either your tone, your humour or intellect. This will create a niche for you and plagiarism will cease to be part of you.
3. Post only when you have value to add:
Avoid jumping into every discussion, maybe in the quest to completing your weekly task. If you engage in a discussion you don't have value to add, you will see yourself paraphrasing and summarising people's comments to produce yours. Though you might not be punished because of this, but it's also a bad habit.
4. Always be conscious of plagiarism:
When you type with the consciousness of plagiarism, you will overcome what is called unintentional plagiarism. You will likely fall a victim if you don't consider it during your work.
5. Don't post immediately after a research:
Ensure you don't post immediately exiting a research room. If you do, you might likely find it difficult to differentiate your personal ideas and the ones gotten from research that needs to be cited.
6. Have a good time management:
All your works, written, audio, visual etc represents you. If you did it hastily, no one knows and will defend your weakness. Always give your best even when no one is watching, there might not be a second chance. Therefore, always use a good time to prepare your work, if there be things to be cited, you will have time to do so. By this plagiarism would be avoided.
7. Test run your work with plagiarism checker:
That feeling you have when you run your work through a plagiarism checker and discovered that your work is 0% plagiarised and 100% unique. This is what your indicters use, it will be cool you use it on yourself to know the quality of your post before publishing.
8. Cite the real Authors:
If you used someone's intellectual property, it's not big deal, cite the real owner and move your way.
1. Read the forum rules before posting:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7955645
2. Be Original:
One of the hardest thing to do in life is to live another man's version of life. If you toe this lane, you will end of being a learner throughout your stay here in the forum. When you are your original self, you will discover a part of you that other people will tend to plagiarise, either your tone, your humour or intellect. This will create a niche for you and plagiarism will cease to be part of you.
3. Post only when you have value to add:
Avoid jumping into every discussion, maybe in the quest to completing your weekly task. If you engage in a discussion you don't have value to add, you will see yourself paraphrasing and summarising people's comments to produce yours. Though you might not be punished because of this, but it's also a bad habit.
4. Always be conscious of plagiarism:
When you type with the consciousness of plagiarism, you will overcome what is called unintentional plagiarism. You will likely fall a victim if you don't consider it during your work.
5. Don't post immediately after a research:
Ensure you don't post immediately exiting a research room. If you do, you might likely find it difficult to differentiate your personal ideas and the ones gotten from research that needs to be cited.
6. Have a good time management:
All your works, written, audio, visual etc represents you. If you did it hastily, no one knows and will defend your weakness. Always give your best even when no one is watching, there might not be a second chance. Therefore, always use a good time to prepare your work, if there be things to be cited, you will have time to do so. By this plagiarism would be avoided.
7. Test run your work with plagiarism checker:
That feeling you have when you run your work through a plagiarism checker and discovered that your work is 0% plagiarised and 100% unique. This is what your indicters use, it will be cool you use it on yourself to know the quality of your post before publishing.
8. Cite the real Authors:
If you used someone's intellectual property, it's not big deal, cite the real owner and move your way.
I think I remember you from your introductory post as the woman from South Africa who doesn't want to be tied to the kitchen, but wants to learn about Bitcoin. It's good to see that you are still around.
And rules guiding the forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
When it comes to forum rules, there are just a few you need to keep in mind at all times. Don't plagiarize, don't spam with low effort and valueless posts, don't share links to viruses or phishing sites, and don't post multiple posts one after the other. Those are the things that can get you banned. With that said, Prior to my first post I never had any interest or any excitement of merits, in fact I had basic knowledge of it but as I found out I got more than 10merits on that particular post.
Just be genuine, eager to learn and help, and you will have no issues here. Merits will start dropping and then pouring in when you get recognized as an honest and hardworking individual. 
The first post I made on this forum was a post of my introduction and also my set aside goals I want to achieve on the forum.
I got from the reply enough advise, Knowledge and guidance
Like Frequent asked questions https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177
And rules guiding the forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
that has been very useful to me so far and I know if I continue to abide by them I will keep on going in the right track.
With that said, Prior to my first post I never had any interest or any excitement of merits, in fact I had basic knowledge of it but as I found out I got more than 10merits on that particular post.
I found out about merits from posts I see from Newbie's like me searching and crying for merits, saying merits are not shared properly, or wanting to know about merits so soon without even participating in the forum or reading the forums rules and regulations.
Citing myself as an example with my first post on the forum, I have come to realise that searching for knowledge should come first before any other thing in the forum.
CONCLUSION
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits. Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
I got from the reply enough advise, Knowledge and guidance
Like Frequent asked questions https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177
And rules guiding the forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
that has been very useful to me so far and I know if I continue to abide by them I will keep on going in the right track.
With that said, Prior to my first post I never had any interest or any excitement of merits, in fact I had basic knowledge of it but as I found out I got more than 10merits on that particular post.
I found out about merits from posts I see from Newbie's like me searching and crying for merits, saying merits are not shared properly, or wanting to know about merits so soon without even participating in the forum or reading the forums rules and regulations.
Citing myself as an example with my first post on the forum, I have come to realise that searching for knowledge should come first before any other thing in the forum.
CONCLUSION
All these being said, I wish to advise my fellow newbie's to seek for knowledge first before talking about merits. Merits should come when you make a good post, so focus on making quality and educating posts than looking for merits.
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